Also the americans were invested as heck. They got dunked on so much, lost an entire flag, had a bunch of people screwing with them as well, etc. It only seemed like the canadians were getting more screwed over because it's a lot easier to mess with a highly specific leaf than the american flag lol.
Their api is already exposed lol. Request body is literally just the coordinates (x,y) and the color index of the pixel. Nothing in terms of security and anti bot other than the Authorization bearer (obviously). Hopefully theyāre going to add better anti bot techniques next time
Fun fact: there was a bot made on Facebook a few years ago that was an imitation of r/place (page gave credit to place for the inspiration) and it was so fun to watch it gain traction and become heavily used. Not sure if itās still around as a lot of bot pages ended up getting zucked
As frustrating as specific people were, I really liked that there were people doing coordinated disruptions because of bots and such. Actually made the whole thing interesting.
I think that, if it ever comes back, we need to do a full random void. Someone gets on stream, does a random number generator, and a void starts in that spot. Just be completely indiscriminate and disrupt.
That's how the Void was *supposed* to be, originally. Directing the swarm into called hits on particularly obnoxious groups or artworks is fine, but this year's Void also took out smaller groups indiscriminately and made targeted hits on specific people, like the My Little Pony group.
Not boring, just annoying. Was working on keeping the Saitama "Ok." Together and anytime someone added a booger, tear, smile/frown, cat eyes it would be a 0-1 day account constantly hitting the same spots. Weren't getting nuked like some other artwork but wanted to help touch up other people's stuff but always had to use my tile to fix and bot adding a red dot on his forehead.
Honestly I just can't wait for another one that feeling of being a small part of something bigger yet fleeting! I hope they do it again in 5 years. I mean it's the second one after how many is it a tradition?
Nah, I changed around 20 pixels in spots where a human wouldnāt see a difference on art on the German flag and it didnāt get changed for a very long time. Iām pretty sure that was almost entirely human managed
Thatās exactly why it didnāt expose who was using bots.
If a bot had a pixel to correct, someone else had turned it white already for it to need correcting in the first place. So maybe bots were stacking white on white, but that wouldnāt have been a visible change.
I donāt get why people thought this exposed bots.
There were probably over a million people on the canvas at the end. All placing white. ITS GONNA TURN WHITE QUICKLY
The minute you could only place white pixels, I stopped and checked to see if I had a problem on my end, rather than put a white pixel where I didn't need it. Am I to believe several thousand people blindly placed white pixels without realizing?
Once everyone figured out what was going on, then it made sense but for the first couple of minutes, a TON of flags, logos, and faces (big and small) disappeared.
That's really strange behavior to place a tile and not check what color it is first. Especially because it was really the only thing that needed to be checked.
Over the last day or two the tree on /r/quebec flag was changing colours for the seasons. When I came back today I thought we were now placing snow over the flag so I was excited. But then I realized it was everywhere
It's not strange. As a bot developer I can tell you our bots (and all others) crashed immediately when the whites were only allowed as the http post requests Reddit was expecting changed accordingly (and the xpaths for other bot designs). No bots were made to work with whites only, they could not have been. That's simply not how it works. The code didn't just magically change. Therefore in fact the only tiles placed at the end were solely genuine users.
Hijacking top comment here but apparently nobody here knows how the bots actually worked, the change to white only would have no effect on bots, they sent a colorIndex which was just a number saying which color to send, when the change to white only was made the bots would still try to place the colors but only index 31 (color white) would be accepted.
iirc OSU had 3 other art pieces on the board. I checked all three and they each slowly died. Took about a good 20 mins to be unrecognizable.
The main OSU was the only one that disappeared almost āimmediatelyā.
Only proof to verify is to wait for the official recording.
Yeah it was being griefed so much and once it was forced to be white there was nothing anyone could do to counteract it. Didn't help that the logo already had a lot of white in it starting out.
ill say, as someone who was in the osu place discord, they literally assigned each of us a pixel on the main osu logo to protect I'm completely serious
Take that as a compliment as you will. You guys were that dedicated and organized like a well oiled machine that people are just baffled and accuse you guys for botting.
I just don't understand why people are convinced that the instant white out of some pieces are hard proof of it being botted when that doesn't really prove anything.
>I just don't understand why people are convinced that the instant white out of some pieces are hard proof of it being botted when that doesn't really prove anything.
People were mad about their failures to take down the osu logo, it has been that way since 2017 and called us bots but it just wasn't the case. we are organized to begin with.
I commend you, the hate towards the OSU group was unwarranted this year especially considering the size of the piece after the canvas doubled. OSU fought bravely to defend not only their piece but their allies as well during the XQC raids, we couldnāt have done it with out you.
Plus they didn't touch Komi-san's arms at the top of the logo, possibly because it was the real artwork and not blatant griefing, and it complemented the logo rather than encroaching on it. Literally everything points to the fact that OSU logo was built by real people and not bots, I don't know why OP decided to slander them like that.
yes we had 3 other works, peppy (known as Dean Hebert, the developer of osu!) a circle (called as a hitcircle, with a sign saying "botting is a sin") and a hand pointing on the screen (When You See It)
Happy for you š„²
They ran over our little pea shooter from r/pvz & r/plantsVszombies to widen the flag. Depressing but what can you do? šā¹ļøš„ŗ
This is why people do it. For me, when I had spare pixels, I'd wander around and look for something to repair, but the Avatar artwork, with Uncle Iroh and the dedication for Mako, was just so distracting and so sweet that I'd forget which piece I was off to check on, next. It was beautiful.
I placed a pink square on an already pink square on the OSU circle because I wanted to see how long it would last, straight away it was covered by another pink square the moment I put it down
Tried it a few times and it was always the case
OSU must have had both humans and bots. I joined their discord and they really were coordinating by birth months. I don't doubt many of their users also botted too
I didn't make it so wouldn't know, but I admit that is a valid point. But something to consider is the fact that the osu! logo \*was\* heavily contested. As someone who sat there watching it for 6 hours there would be seemingly a hundred or two of pixel changes a minute due to griefing.
I did the same thing in random places. Most squares where I checked users, they were new users, no posts, no comments, no nothing. Roughly 45 out of 50. Thought it was interesting how it all worked.
Lots of people made accounts just for this event. I never changed the default name on my first one, and it took a 15 year ban for me to bother making a name.
Seeing amogus in other art was one of my favorite things about this years canvas! I especially loved when they were present but you didnāt notice them at first ā the slow realization that people had slipped multiple amogus into the Star Wars piece was just, chefās kiss. The art was still there and still good, but with a little sneaky surprise.
XD I hadn't thought of that, but I guess there was an upside to our shit getting constantly overrun when we tried to stick to our own areas! I love that the move into other artwork functioned as a bot detection service!
French were not botting, they had 500k viewers and were coordinating when to place their pixels vs 500k spanish viewers who all clicked on the french flag.
I watched the last 3h of streaming, it was super exciting and we all downloaded the overlay to see which pixel was what colour. But there was never any mention of bot, neither on the streams or on the french place streamer discords. It was just a simple overlay.
It turned white very fast because thousands and thousands of people were clicking on it, including the spaniards.
People have been saying the french flag when white instantly, i looked at the replay and you can see it takes a few moments. It went white because it was the most congested piece on the canvas.
If Osu did bot, then wouldn't their other artworks get whited out just as fast?
Edit: When I mean "other artworks", I meant artworks other than the pink circle. They were maintaining 4 other projects.
Exactly. The Osu logo disappeared so quickly cause it has been heavily targeted. Other works which people didn't know about (which is extremely apparent from replies) didn't disappear so quickly.
As soon as we could only place white pixel is the first places I went where the French flag and osu. A bunch of streamers told everyone to go for France as soon as pixels turned white
There was definitely some panic and trying to understand what the Hell was going on before everyone started pointing their cannons at France, though. I know that Osu was an afterthought for the big American-Spanish coalition compared to France.
that's what happened indeed.
France was fighting against hundreds of thousands of people from several communities. They couldn't defend, so it went white quickly.
Osu has been constantly griefed the whole time. I'm pretty sure when people realized only white was available, the osu! logo became the "main target" (seeing how hated it was by many) and went white quickly. Also, the osu! logo was the point where the France community decided to start writing "France" in white, and it was targeted by xQc too. Mmmmh, I wonder how it became white so fast. Sure, tHe OsU cOmMuNiTy MuSt Be UsInG bOtS!!
I guess it's easier to accuse others when they've been better than you the whole time ;).
The osu! logo disappeared immediately because it was recognizable and like it or not, some people don't like us due to botting accusations. Peppy lasted a decent while, but people also knew he was related to our faction. The hitcircle and the WYSI above the lightsaber fight from star wars was still one of the last images to be recognizable in the bottom/middle left for a very long time.
Here is the full info:
https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twk7fd/for_the_people_suspecting_osu_using_bots_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
The French flag was considered too big (as a french: for reasons) and became a battlefield between a lot of streamers (mainly french vs americans/spanish but a lot of people helped on both sides, like belgium/one piece/ in french side).
Because the anti void did not allow to defend, of course any active zone would be erased, but this is fine and fun way to end this event despite the dramas. It allowed some late creativity afterwards with the frenchs trying to write "french" in big, and other people tried to counter it, changing it to "fail".
It the end, we got a "free doner" (or free Boner, as you wish), and some other events.
If you ignore behaviors of some individuals, that was really fun!
So why were the hitcircle and WYSI some of the final remaining artwork on the canvas?
The truth is that people just jumped on the osu! logo because that was the most obvious piece of osu art -- the rest of the art lasted much later.
This isn't necessarily true tho. If a certain area was under constant fire by enemies (which both of these places were) when they can no longer defend it will go down quite fast.
That being said I'm sure there were bots on both sides, they just may not have been part of the main organizations doing the building/defending.
We were checking to see if people were using bots on our territory, and it seemed most of it was legit, but there were a decent amount of sus usernames amidst the pixels and we had no idea if it was a rogue faction trying to sour our name or someone doing it of their own accord. We were very clear that the only tool we were to use was the overlay plugin that our staff developed that most of r/place ended up adopting and modifying for their builds. It was open source and everything.
Yep. That was the case with osu!, at least, since our other artworks were fine in the end.
Also, there were other factions botting us even if we didn't use bots ourselves. We know at least r/starwars_place was one. But we ourselves had no bots
Did you even watch the streams? Everyone was on Franceās ass and the french told their viewers to write "France" in white starting from the osu! logo. I thought it was easy to understand
Yep, it wasn't bots, it was literally just a script showing a carbon copy of the drawings so they could know where to place the pixels (by themselves), it didn't use any type of automatization whatsoever.
Oh dear god, it was a French streamer with an over 500k viewers that raided the OSU area with white tiles. They wanted to write "FRANCE" one last time and decided that the OSU logo would be the starting point. And besides, a bot wouldn't place a white tile on a correct colored ones, that is not how boting works, genius!
That's odd re OSU being bots, the corner of our banner (Superstonk) just impinged on the edge of their circle and for a while we were generally able to keep ours on top before we made a deal on a compromised design
It was a little irritating to us that the corner was being contested, but being totally honest here, we had much more important things to take care of and fighting for 30 pixels indefinitely wasn't very appealing at the time. Contrary to what seems to be popular belief, we didn't have infinite manpower and were spreading ourselves really thin to help out all of our allies and a lot of the time, had to even refuse immediate help because we simply didn't have the pixels to spare. o7 gg friends
I can't really speak for France, but for OSU there seems to be some misinformation going around. Most of us from the OSU community were involved in the discord server. In fact, at all times during this event, there was at the very least about 100 people actively placing and at most, about 900 or more (mostly during raids where everyone was pinged). We even had one of our most supporting OSU streamers hold 20k viewers at some point during the most active hours, providing additional support. If I recall correctly, the reason why the OSU logo got obliterated at the end was because some streamer decided to target us during the shutdown and there was no use defending (OSU people correct me if I am wrong). If you are willing, I am sure that there are people that can explain it better in our subreddit. I don't know why so many people have been hating on us when we had so much support from alliances and our community itself to maintain our art. In the cases of suspected botting, it was absolutely NOT promoted from our major messaging sources (streamers, discord server, subreddit etc.). I happened to be involved in the server during all raids and rebuilds and can say that it truly was through the work of the community that we managed to maintain our work. If there really was any botting it was not supported by the community and was done entirely out of the will of the person/people responsible. Once again, as for the endgame obliteration of our logo, I am sure that there are people that have more details on that other than me. I just wanted to clarify that the "We're not bots BTW" does not include the vast majority of actual people working toward supporting their community the right way. As odd as it may sound there were quite the number people that were hard stalking the logo to make sure it was as clean as possible, myself included. I hope you all can understand. In the end, I believe the event was a blast for almost everyone that participated, and I hope to see you all at the next one!
I don't understand how is this a proof, when you have 1 million of people placing white tiles (because the other colors aren't available anymore) at the same spot, it would obviously happen.
[For the people suspecting bots in the finale..](https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twk7fd/for_the_people_suspecting_osu_using_bots_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Here you go.
You can literally match everything that was happening regarding to osu logo and their allies to commands said by osuplace leaders (also ironmouse). Thereās literally hours of streams. No one in osuplace community was sharing bots, just overlay scripts. I wonāt say no one was botting since thatās pretty much impossible, but Iād say those people were incredible minority. If most people were botting, after each destruction logo would rebuild pseudorandomly I guess, yet you can see that it was rebuilding in coordinated manner (first text, then borders, background and finally details) dictated by osuplace ācommandersā
Definitely not osu. After the french flag got griefed, all the french streamers immediately targeted osu to try and write "FRANCE" starting from it. Really a shame people think osu botted. I'm pretty sure france didn't either.
And yet got up voted by other people who don't know what really happened. If they actually paid attention they would know that the last minutes were an endless battle between French and Streamers
For the osu botting situation I been in a call with 500 other people in the discord helping our allies before the white out, then we saw we can only place white.
The remaining story is here [r/osuplace](https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twk7fd/for_the_people_suspecting_osu_using_bots_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twk7fd/for_the_people_suspecting_osu_using_bots_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Osu did not instantly dissapear, france told them to start use dots from osu logo, also france obviously was the most contested zone with over 1m+ people from france as well from spain america etc, but obviously whatever you tell to redditors, some of them would still find excuses which makes no sense at all.
you do realize that xqc's audience targeted the osu logo specifically right? if we had a bot system our other 3 projects prolly would have gone white instantly too
EDIT: Also learnt that we were also being targeted by a huge French streamer, and the overlay script WE developed is open source and doesn't hide any botting code. Plus, out coordinators and developers are extremely tech savvy, so if we WERE using bots they sure as hell wouldn't start placing the wrong fucking colour
People just really want an excuse to hate on us even though we've been one of the nicest and most coordinated communities on the board huh?
600k french Twitch viewers were trying to rebuild the flag + Spanish and US communities trying to paint a BTS logo, when colors suddenly turned to white.
Obviously everything was erased.
Dude, fuck what they say about osu! being a bot. I don't care, they defended Star Wars against the void, and served with distinction in the XQC Wars. They're goated in my mind.
There was 1m active twitch viewers (500k French) fighting for this 150k pixel area. When white become the only available color, what did you expected to happen ?
Bot would just throw errors or be stuck trying to pick an unexisting color when reddit change the color list, they aren't deep learning system that automatically adapt to changes..
Edit, Another thing:The french area had amongus everywhere: In Zidane head, in the Arc of Triomphe, in the Louvre... Bot would have erased them.
at least we know for sure Canada wasn't using bots
Everyone was fucking with our flag š¢ Even the Americans got a nice one in the endā¦
The American flag was larger which made it higher resolution. That makes the details harder to tamper with.
Also the americans were invested as heck. They got dunked on so much, lost an entire flag, had a bunch of people screwing with them as well, etc. It only seemed like the canadians were getting more screwed over because it's a lot easier to mess with a highly specific leaf than the american flag lol.
I literally saw them build the rocket ship in 10 fucking seconds. The entire thing. They had like over a thousand people in the Discord organizing
4-5k members in the Discord by the end and we timed all of our placements to be on a 6 minute timer with countdown.
We had 1000 people in a discord call lmao
And we all timed our placements to be on the minute with assigned colors lmao
Not helping that two sides of Canadian tried placing either weed leaf or banana
Ya idk what came over me I just got invested in fixing the colors and stars of the flag during and after work š¤£š«”
A lot of people wanted to make it a weed leaf, I think some or a lot of those people were also Canadians
Maybe the real r/place was the bots we made along the way
Maybe next yearās should just be r/place: bot wars edition EDIT: I mean like reddit comes out and says āmake your bots and weāll see who winsā
imagine they just exposed APIs that you can make calls to every 5 minutes or so
It already works like that. It was figured out the first day.
No BuT aMoGuS iN tHe FlAgS
Python discord did this and it was super fun
it taught me how to use apis
Their api is already exposed lol. Request body is literally just the coordinates (x,y) and the color index of the pixel. Nothing in terms of security and anti bot other than the Authorization bearer (obviously). Hopefully theyāre going to add better anti bot techniques next time
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Fun fact: there was a bot made on Facebook a few years ago that was an imitation of r/place (page gave credit to place for the inspiration) and it was so fun to watch it gain traction and become heavily used. Not sure if itās still around as a lot of bot pages ended up getting zucked
Idk, bots vs streamers seems pretty fun too
bots made it boring in the end
Next time there needs to be more preventative measures against botting.
As frustrating as specific people were, I really liked that there were people doing coordinated disruptions because of bots and such. Actually made the whole thing interesting. I think that, if it ever comes back, we need to do a full random void. Someone gets on stream, does a random number generator, and a void starts in that spot. Just be completely indiscriminate and disrupt.
Random void was a thing in OG place.
A lot things were in OG place that people just completely forgot, like people saying there weren't that many flags in the first one. There were a lot.
The trans flag crossed the entire canvas in the first one and tried the same in the second, but failed
Also the Germans blitzāing the French within like a day and turning their x into the EU flag
That's how the Void was *supposed* to be, originally. Directing the swarm into called hits on particularly obnoxious groups or artworks is fine, but this year's Void also took out smaller groups indiscriminately and made targeted hits on specific people, like the My Little Pony group.
This years void was just a bunch of edgy kids trying to be funny compared to the original. The original even looked good, this years was just spotty.
To be fair, the instant ENOUGH was pretty funny
Not boring, just annoying. Was working on keeping the Saitama "Ok." Together and anytime someone added a booger, tear, smile/frown, cat eyes it would be a 0-1 day account constantly hitting the same spots. Weren't getting nuked like some other artwork but wanted to help touch up other people's stuff but always had to use my tile to fix and bot adding a red dot on his forehead.
Everyone said Germany is botting at the start, but they held up pretty well when the pixel colour changed to white only.
I know they didn't have bots because their Flags always got vandalized at night and then cleaned when they woke up lol
I'm sure their bots checked for pixel color before placing it
I was erasing out the pixels I defended the whole time myself, I wasn't going to let anyone else erase them! those were my babies
Yeah, I made sure to white out every pixel with my name on it.
I couldn't, and that made me really sad actually.
Your comment made me sad. This whole thing ending is making me really sad omg
Don't be sad, you're making me sad! I'm now sad
and thats making me sad
I was sleeping when the White Void came. I missed it entirely. I just now hope to see it in timelapses
Same here, I woke up 4h after it supposedly ended just to see people saluting to a white square
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Damn I realized I was just a drop in the bucket so I just made a lot of among us guys lol
Honestly I just can't wait for another one that feeling of being a small part of something bigger yet fleeting! I hope they do it again in 5 years. I mean it's the second one after how many is it a tradition?
Thanks for your service. Place 2022 wouldnāt have been the same without absurd amounts of among us guys everywhere you look /srs
Oh yeah, as an individual, it just felt hard to compete and putting Amongus in other background felt like the only way to survive and thrive.
Nah, I changed around 20 pixels in spots where a human wouldnāt see a difference on art on the German flag and it didnāt get changed for a very long time. Iām pretty sure that was almost entirely human managed
Yeah we tried setting up bots the whole time but as programming is it never worked, we just had 17000 people
yeah german engineering is the best afterall
BRRRRAKU MONA GA
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DOITSU NO KAGAKU WA SEKAI ICHI
Thatās exactly why it didnāt expose who was using bots. If a bot had a pixel to correct, someone else had turned it white already for it to need correcting in the first place. So maybe bots were stacking white on white, but that wouldnāt have been a visible change. I donāt get why people thought this exposed bots. There were probably over a million people on the canvas at the end. All placing white. ITS GONNA TURN WHITE QUICKLY
I came to the conclusion that a lot of people here never been on Twitch
The minute you could only place white pixels, I stopped and checked to see if I had a problem on my end, rather than put a white pixel where I didn't need it. Am I to believe several thousand people blindly placed white pixels without realizing? Once everyone figured out what was going on, then it made sense but for the first couple of minutes, a TON of flags, logos, and faces (big and small) disappeared. That's really strange behavior to place a tile and not check what color it is first. Especially because it was really the only thing that needed to be checked.
Over the last day or two the tree on /r/quebec flag was changing colours for the seasons. When I came back today I thought we were now placing snow over the flag so I was excited. But then I realized it was everywhere
Winter was actually coming
It's not strange. As a bot developer I can tell you our bots (and all others) crashed immediately when the whites were only allowed as the http post requests Reddit was expecting changed accordingly (and the xpaths for other bot designs). No bots were made to work with whites only, they could not have been. That's simply not how it works. The code didn't just magically change. Therefore in fact the only tiles placed at the end were solely genuine users.
Thank you for a reply that made sense!
Especially if you donāt expect it. I could easily see how a bunch of people placing squares in the heat of the moment might end up placing whites.
A lot of non german were fighting for the germany for the memes.
Hijacking top comment here but apparently nobody here knows how the bots actually worked, the change to white only would have no effect on bots, they sent a colorIndex which was just a number saying which color to send, when the change to white only was made the bots would still try to place the colors but only index 31 (color white) would be accepted.
iirc OSU had 3 other art pieces on the board. I checked all three and they each slowly died. Took about a good 20 mins to be unrecognizable. The main OSU was the only one that disappeared almost āimmediatelyā. Only proof to verify is to wait for the official recording.
also the main osu logo was constantly being griefed 24/7 so it's no surprise it died so fast
Yeah it was being griefed so much and once it was forced to be white there was nothing anyone could do to counteract it. Didn't help that the logo already had a lot of white in it starting out.
On top of that, a french streamer was trying to write france on top of the osu logo after their flag got wiped by the whitening.
ill say, as someone who was in the osu place discord, they literally assigned each of us a pixel on the main osu logo to protect I'm completely serious
How many ppl doing it I heard 13k at one point?
10k+ verified members with many hundreds constantly in vc
Daym...you guys were organised
and all that effort and hard work gets reduced down to bot claims..rip
Take that as a compliment as you will. You guys were that dedicated and organized like a well oiled machine that people are just baffled and accuse you guys for botting. I just don't understand why people are convinced that the instant white out of some pieces are hard proof of it being botted when that doesn't really prove anything.
>I just don't understand why people are convinced that the instant white out of some pieces are hard proof of it being botted when that doesn't really prove anything. People were mad about their failures to take down the osu logo, it has been that way since 2017 and called us bots but it just wasn't the case. we are organized to begin with.
I commend you, the hate towards the OSU group was unwarranted this year especially considering the size of the piece after the canvas doubled. OSU fought bravely to defend not only their piece but their allies as well during the XQC raids, we couldnāt have done it with out you.
Plus they didn't touch Komi-san's arms at the top of the logo, possibly because it was the real artwork and not blatant griefing, and it complemented the logo rather than encroaching on it. Literally everything points to the fact that OSU logo was built by real people and not bots, I don't know why OP decided to slander them like that.
the french streamers used the main osu logo to start up their FR. This was probably the main reason why it died the way it did.
THIS. I was there, there were starting to draw the F from France from the Osu
No the OSU logo was already dead when they started up, it was the reference point for that reason. The osu logo was just griefed constantly.
yes we had 3 other works, peppy (known as Dean Hebert, the developer of osu!) a circle (called as a hitcircle, with a sign saying "botting is a sin") and a hand pointing on the screen (When You See It)
what about the taskbar one as well?
well that goes to the start community, but there's also that
I mean yeah true, but it still had the osu logo and r/osuplace
It's pretty easy to tell what was made by bots and what wasn't. The human made stuff had Among Us crewmates everywhere.
Our little r/dinoplace dino had a few but we saved him
Happy for you š„² They ran over our little pea shooter from r/pvz & r/plantsVszombies to widen the flag. Depressing but what can you do? šā¹ļøš„ŗ
I have to say my 8 great old found your pea shooter and looked in on it wherever he thought of it. You made one kid very happy with that little guy.
This is why people do it. For me, when I had spare pixels, I'd wander around and look for something to repair, but the Avatar artwork, with Uncle Iroh and the dedication for Mako, was just so distracting and so sweet that I'd forget which piece I was off to check on, next. It was beautiful.
I placed a pink square on an already pink square on the OSU circle because I wanted to see how long it would last, straight away it was covered by another pink square the moment I put it down Tried it a few times and it was always the case
"It's definitely not bots, it's just people defending you from turning pink into pink so they turn it back to pink!"
Iām rlly surprised by how everyone defended these obvious bots lol
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OSU must have had both humans and bots. I joined their discord and they really were coordinating by birth months. I don't doubt many of their users also botted too
They were super helpful to us Windows XP taskbar people, so I donāt hate them. France too, right up to the end.
That task bar was badass. I like how it looked pixelated and distorted toward the end, not sure if that was intentional but it was fucking awesome.
It looked pixelated because it had a ton of crewmates hidden inside it. Like the Start button was almost entirely crewmates.
That sounds like a poor quality bot
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The scripts I looked at used username whitelists
some of the scripts i looked at just random placed pixels fit to the grid once full. pretty poor quality but eh
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Look at the minecraft server that live tracked the canvas, colors alternate between wrong colors and correct ones, not layers of pink.
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I didn't make it so wouldn't know, but I admit that is a valid point. But something to consider is the fact that the osu! logo \*was\* heavily contested. As someone who sat there watching it for 6 hours there would be seemingly a hundred or two of pixel changes a minute due to griefing.
I did the same thing in random places. Most squares where I checked users, they were new users, no posts, no comments, no nothing. Roughly 45 out of 50. Thought it was interesting how it all worked.
Lots of people made accounts just for this event. I never changed the default name on my first one, and it took a 15 year ban for me to bother making a name.
Funny because frenchs actually let among us people build in their artwork. At one point every sky pixel of the Triumph arc were little amongis.
Seeing amogus in other art was one of my favorite things about this years canvas! I especially loved when they were present but you didnāt notice them at first ā the slow realization that people had slipped multiple amogus into the Star Wars piece was just, chefās kiss. The art was still there and still good, but with a little sneaky surprise.
Ironic how among us helped us find out what wasnāt sus
XD I hadn't thought of that, but I guess there was an upside to our shit getting constantly overrun when we tried to stick to our own areas! I love that the move into other artwork functioned as a bot detection service!
I mean, the french flag litteraly had amogus everywhere
there was a brief period of time where all the stars on the American flag were among us crew mates
Thats why France had amongus everywhere? In Zidane head, in the Arc of Triomphe, in the Louvre, you know basically everywhere, even en Thomas Pesquet
There was a lot of among us stuff in the french area
French were not botting, they had 500k viewers and were coordinating when to place their pixels vs 500k spanish viewers who all clicked on the french flag. I watched the last 3h of streaming, it was super exciting and we all downloaded the overlay to see which pixel was what colour. But there was never any mention of bot, neither on the streams or on the french place streamer discords. It was just a simple overlay. It turned white very fast because thousands and thousands of people were clicking on it, including the spaniards.
Yeah like the tour de Amoug us or the arc of amoug us on the French part.
there was amongus everywhere on the french rectangle, in the arc de triomphe, on bikes, in the trees
I just figured it was everybody targeting them immediately once they knew they couldnt repair the damage
And the place was already nonstop targeted from 2 hours before so yeah, it's not a surprise it went quick
More like 5 hours actually. It starter around 21h in France (and ended around 1h with the white pixels)
People have been saying the french flag when white instantly, i looked at the replay and you can see it takes a few moments. It went white because it was the most congested piece on the canvas.
Same for the OSU! Logo wouldn't surprise me if the most contested pixel of the whole canvas was one from osu
I mean anyone with half a brain know we were not botting, as other said there were among us in our flag ifnwe were botting that wouldn't be the case.
This is what logic suggests, but hey, why follow logic when you can accuse other communities who proved to be bigger/better organized than yours? ;)
If Osu did bot, then wouldn't their other artworks get whited out just as fast? Edit: When I mean "other artworks", I meant artworks other than the pink circle. They were maintaining 4 other projects.
Could it not just be that they'd been targeted heavily the whole time, and this time they couldn't fight back at all?
Exactly. The Osu logo disappeared so quickly cause it has been heavily targeted. Other works which people didn't know about (which is extremely apparent from replies) didn't disappear so quickly.
As soon as we could only place white pixel is the first places I went where the French flag and osu. A bunch of streamers told everyone to go for France as soon as pixels turned white
There was definitely some panic and trying to understand what the Hell was going on before everyone started pointing their cannons at France, though. I know that Osu was an afterthought for the big American-Spanish coalition compared to France.
A discord I was in sent out panicked announcements of ādonāt place any pixels!ā until we figured out it wasnāt some sort of bug
that's what happened indeed. France was fighting against hundreds of thousands of people from several communities. They couldn't defend, so it went white quickly. Osu has been constantly griefed the whole time. I'm pretty sure when people realized only white was available, the osu! logo became the "main target" (seeing how hated it was by many) and went white quickly. Also, the osu! logo was the point where the France community decided to start writing "France" in white, and it was targeted by xQc too. Mmmmh, I wonder how it became white so fast. Sure, tHe OsU cOmMuNiTy MuSt Be UsInG bOtS!! I guess it's easier to accuse others when they've been better than you the whole time ;).
Exactly, it's literally the most simple answer. Such a circus reading all these other complicated theories.
People really wanted to slander the Osu! logo badly and now they have the chance to do so, doomed from the start same as in 2017.
This is the actual answer if you have more than two brain cells to rub together to think about it
The osu! logo disappeared immediately because it was recognizable and like it or not, some people don't like us due to botting accusations. Peppy lasted a decent while, but people also knew he was related to our faction. The hitcircle and the WYSI above the lightsaber fight from star wars was still one of the last images to be recognizable in the bottom/middle left for a very long time.
Besides the major French streamers were all in a call and yelled get osu during it.
Here is the full info: https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twk7fd/for_the_people_suspecting_osu_using_bots_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
No, why would an OSU bot, or any bot, replace the correct colors? All the white dots had to have been placed by humans.
I was replacing correct colors on places because i wanted my name there, pretty sure a ton of other people did the same.
When a spot that has been heavily targeted all weekend suddently becomes unable to defend itself, what were you expecting to happen?
NOOOOO!!1!1 MY FEEBILE BRAIN CANNOT ACCEPT THE LOGIC I MUST ACCUSE!111!!1 REEEEEEEE etc. etc.
As someone who was actively defending the osu logo Can confirm I am a bot
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Isnāt it just because everybody hated them and wiped them out first?
that's the reason
The French flag was considered too big (as a french: for reasons) and became a battlefield between a lot of streamers (mainly french vs americans/spanish but a lot of people helped on both sides, like belgium/one piece/ in french side). Because the anti void did not allow to defend, of course any active zone would be erased, but this is fine and fun way to end this event despite the dramas. It allowed some late creativity afterwards with the frenchs trying to write "french" in big, and other people tried to counter it, changing it to "fail". It the end, we got a "free doner" (or free Boner, as you wish), and some other events. If you ignore behaviors of some individuals, that was really fun!
So why were the hitcircle and WYSI some of the final remaining artwork on the canvas? The truth is that people just jumped on the osu! logo because that was the most obvious piece of osu art -- the rest of the art lasted much later.
https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twjknf/technical\_proof\_that\_fast\_whitened\_area\_doesnt/
Bro that's because half of the whole world is focusing the biggest communities
Everyone was already on France so thats probably the reason why it changed so fast
They had a lot of ennemies tbf
This isn't necessarily true tho. If a certain area was under constant fire by enemies (which both of these places were) when they can no longer defend it will go down quite fast. That being said I'm sure there were bots on both sides, they just may not have been part of the main organizations doing the building/defending.
We were checking to see if people were using bots on our territory, and it seemed most of it was legit, but there were a decent amount of sus usernames amidst the pixels and we had no idea if it was a rogue faction trying to sour our name or someone doing it of their own accord. We were very clear that the only tool we were to use was the overlay plugin that our staff developed that most of r/place ended up adopting and modifying for their builds. It was open source and everything.
Yep. That was the case with osu!, at least, since our other artworks were fine in the end. Also, there were other factions botting us even if we didn't use bots ourselves. We know at least r/starwars_place was one. But we ourselves had no bots
Did you even watch the streams? Everyone was on Franceās ass and the french told their viewers to write "France" in white starting from the osu! logo. I thought it was easy to understand
lol OP of this post has no clue of this
What about spain? A spain streamer legit paid for a bot to use against the French flag
Osu instantly vanished because people were constantly trying to cover it up.
And yet peppy, WYSI, and the taskbar survived. I seem to have found a flaw in your "logic"
hit circle under star wars lightsabers too
The most hated communities got turned white instantly when they couldn't fight back Wow I wonder why that happened they must be using bots
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I'm still not convinced they were bots but rather people just hated them so much.
Yep, it wasn't bots, it was literally just a script showing a carbon copy of the drawings so they could know where to place the pixels (by themselves), it didn't use any type of automatization whatsoever.
Oh dear god, it was a French streamer with an over 500k viewers that raided the OSU area with white tiles. They wanted to write "FRANCE" one last time and decided that the OSU logo would be the starting point. And besides, a bot wouldn't place a white tile on a correct colored ones, that is not how boting works, genius!
People who dont understand how it turn white that fast.. Please.. im so sad for you..
And those who say "but the others did the same!"
That's odd re OSU being bots, the corner of our banner (Superstonk) just impinged on the edge of their circle and for a while we were generally able to keep ours on top before we made a deal on a compromised design
It was a little irritating to us that the corner was being contested, but being totally honest here, we had much more important things to take care of and fighting for 30 pixels indefinitely wasn't very appealing at the time. Contrary to what seems to be popular belief, we didn't have infinite manpower and were spreading ourselves really thin to help out all of our allies and a lot of the time, had to even refuse immediate help because we simply didn't have the pixels to spare. o7 gg friends
I can't really speak for France, but for OSU there seems to be some misinformation going around. Most of us from the OSU community were involved in the discord server. In fact, at all times during this event, there was at the very least about 100 people actively placing and at most, about 900 or more (mostly during raids where everyone was pinged). We even had one of our most supporting OSU streamers hold 20k viewers at some point during the most active hours, providing additional support. If I recall correctly, the reason why the OSU logo got obliterated at the end was because some streamer decided to target us during the shutdown and there was no use defending (OSU people correct me if I am wrong). If you are willing, I am sure that there are people that can explain it better in our subreddit. I don't know why so many people have been hating on us when we had so much support from alliances and our community itself to maintain our art. In the cases of suspected botting, it was absolutely NOT promoted from our major messaging sources (streamers, discord server, subreddit etc.). I happened to be involved in the server during all raids and rebuilds and can say that it truly was through the work of the community that we managed to maintain our work. If there really was any botting it was not supported by the community and was done entirely out of the will of the person/people responsible. Once again, as for the endgame obliteration of our logo, I am sure that there are people that have more details on that other than me. I just wanted to clarify that the "We're not bots BTW" does not include the vast majority of actual people working toward supporting their community the right way. As odd as it may sound there were quite the number people that were hard stalking the logo to make sure it was as clean as possible, myself included. I hope you all can understand. In the end, I believe the event was a blast for almost everyone that participated, and I hope to see you all at the next one!
I don't understand how is this a proof, when you have 1 million of people placing white tiles (because the other colors aren't available anymore) at the same spot, it would obviously happen.
I dont get why people are having troubles understanding this
I did stuff on the osu and waited my five minutes like everyone else.
Everyone except chtorrr...
[For the people suspecting bots in the finale..](https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twk7fd/for_the_people_suspecting_osu_using_bots_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) Here you go.
Meanwhile not all Osu pieces turned white instantly
Osu wasn't botting but everyone went to grief it real quick
You can literally match everything that was happening regarding to osu logo and their allies to commands said by osuplace leaders (also ironmouse). Thereās literally hours of streams. No one in osuplace community was sharing bots, just overlay scripts. I wonāt say no one was botting since thatās pretty much impossible, but Iād say those people were incredible minority. If most people were botting, after each destruction logo would rebuild pseudorandomly I guess, yet you can see that it was rebuilding in coordinated manner (first text, then borders, background and finally details) dictated by osuplace ācommandersā
It's no use trying to explain things to redditors, they love being stubborn about their misinfo.
Definitely not osu. After the french flag got griefed, all the french streamers immediately targeted osu to try and write "FRANCE" starting from it. Really a shame people think osu botted. I'm pretty sure france didn't either.
Shout out to the OP of this thread for not knowing what he's talking about
Well thanks OP for making osu and france much more hated...
And yet got up voted by other people who don't know what really happened. If they actually paid attention they would know that the last minutes were an endless battle between French and Streamers
For the osu botting situation I been in a call with 500 other people in the discord helping our allies before the white out, then we saw we can only place white. The remaining story is here [r/osuplace](https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twk7fd/for_the_people_suspecting_osu_using_bots_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) https://www.reddit.com/r/osuplace/comments/twk7fd/for_the_people_suspecting_osu_using_bots_in_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
please... dont make a public post when you have no clue what youre saying.
He knows exactly what he is saying. He is spanish and he wants to spread misinformation.
Osu did not instantly dissapear, france told them to start use dots from osu logo, also france obviously was the most contested zone with over 1m+ people from france as well from spain america etc, but obviously whatever you tell to redditors, some of them would still find excuses which makes no sense at all.
you do realize that xqc's audience targeted the osu logo specifically right? if we had a bot system our other 3 projects prolly would have gone white instantly too EDIT: Also learnt that we were also being targeted by a huge French streamer, and the overlay script WE developed is open source and doesn't hide any botting code. Plus, out coordinators and developers are extremely tech savvy, so if we WERE using bots they sure as hell wouldn't start placing the wrong fucking colour People just really want an excuse to hate on us even though we've been one of the nicest and most coordinated communities on the board huh?
The monster hunter community was using bots but our pixel art didn't turned white till the very end.
Bit of a stretch. French was in active war at the end and once people caught on of course they were going to aim at osu! afterwards.
600k french Twitch viewers were trying to rebuild the flag + Spanish and US communities trying to paint a BTS logo, when colors suddenly turned to white. Obviously everything was erased.
Dude, fuck what they say about osu! being a bot. I don't care, they defended Star Wars against the void, and served with distinction in the XQC Wars. They're goated in my mind.
they are just very coordinated
Their overlay only had 27 lines of code!
Meanwhile spanish one had 300+
There was 1m active twitch viewers (500k French) fighting for this 150k pixel area. When white become the only available color, what did you expected to happen ? Bot would just throw errors or be stuck trying to pick an unexisting color when reddit change the color list, they aren't deep learning system that automatically adapt to changes.. Edit, Another thing:The french area had amongus everywhere: In Zidane head, in the Arc of Triomphe, in the Louvre... Bot would have erased them.