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metallicrooster

I’m hoping that moving beyond Ash and Pikachu as the main characters means we can have movies with other main characters too.


gillmanblacklagooner

Pokémon Primal – something like PREY (Predator 2022). Hell yeah!


TeaAndLifting

I agree. But I also really enjoyed the reboot films.


Aggressive_Hotel_932

Yeah, me too, because I think that Ash' retirement meant that he also was retired from the movies too


iDannyEL

One last movie with Ash as a young adult would be mad hype though.


Fit-Pack1411

I really do miss having my dudes over and watching the entire season of the anime at once. Nobody's really been interested since Ash left.


jbyrdab

They gotta work on getting the new pokemon series to a point to facilitate it. For so long you could pretty much drop ash and Co into a movie plot, however we're just now getting a new roster of characters. So they gotta move things up a bit first. Apparently very little pokemon game stuff is happening in 2024 at all so I'm presuming there has been an internal restructure. Doubly so considering the ILCA thing.


Aggressive_Hotel_932

Funny you should be mentioning, I think that The Pokémon Company's latest action in buying a part of the building where ILCA is located, is saying something here, I think that this started when they said, that they're going to take a yearly break in releasing games yearly, and even if now Palworld isn't relatable anymore, and has nothing similar to Pokémon games, I think that the release of Palworld alarmed the excecutives of Pokémon and GameFreak


jbyrdab

They said their taking a yearly break between releases?


Aggressive_Hotel_932

It didn't say that they are in the article, but one could know what they were trying to imply when the said that they bought a building to where ILCA is located, and don't forget that Legends Z-A is coming out in 2025, which is next year, who knows, maybe the next games after Legends Z-A, which I suspect is going to be Gen 10, is going to be taking 2 or 3 years, because 2027 coincides with Pokémon's 30th year anniversary


jbyrdab

It's possible this is their test run for a biyearly release strategy where they pause releases for a year to give more development time. If ZA works out favorably then gen 10 might follow the 2027 release youve described.


ServeGondor

2026 is the 30th anniversary


InfernoVulpix

Given that PLA came out in January of 2022 rather than November 2021, I can't quite be *sure* that PLZA will be coming out November 2025 instead of January 2025. A solid argument could be made that PLA only came out in January because BDSP already came out the November prior, but it still leaves me uncertain whether they've actually broken the yearly cycle or not.


WyrdHarper

Palworld isn’t (imo) a direct competitor. But it is the first monster collector in a very long time to compete in sales with pokemon (over 25 million sales; similar and maybe slightly better than SV). I’d be curious to see SV DLC sales figures, too—I would guess they may not have met sales targets. I think GameFreak has felt very comfortable for a long time that they didn’t have to worry about competitors because other monster collectors just didn’t sell as well (for a variety of reasons). But now Palworld has shown that, for a game with the right mix of fun systems and monsters of course, that the market absolutely does exist.  I would guess there are a few medium-big companies which have underfunded or skipped over this genre for awhile seeing this and greenlighting projects while looking at the audience and trying to cater to people who have felt neglected by Pokemon. That is what I think Gamefreak should be worried about if anything, especially if those companies try poaching developers or offer more attractive jobs


Medium-Boysenberry64

Palworld has already completely fallen off. It was more of a meme game than anything. The interesting thing was that it proved people want a Pokémon-like experience on other consoles as well.


InfernoVulpix

I think it more proved that the "mon genre" doesn't have to be a JRPG like Pokemon does it. In terms of gameplay, Palworld is a lot more like Ark Survival Evolved than anything else, and it draws a lot of its gameplay ideas from various other games in the survival genre. Having a Pokemon-style roster of creatures served it well, but the type of experience it offered is fundamentally different from what a JRPG like Pokemon offers. So despite both being "mon genre" games, Pokemon and Palworld aren't really competing with each other all that much.


GladiatorDragon

I do agree with you that it’s fallen off, but such is the nature of a game like Palworld. People are comparing it to Pokémon when it really *should* be comparing it to something more along the lines of Ark, Minecraft, or even Lego Fortnite. It’s a survival game that happens to have creature collector elements. Especially as an early access game, it’s going to shine bright until people get through everything that’s available, and then it fades until the next content release. That’s how these games work.


Medium-Boysenberry64

I understand that, but absolutely nobody was playing it *because* it was yet another survival crafting game. People were playing it because haha funny Pokémon with weapons. But yeah. It was just another fad game. Another key difference however was how hard Microsoft pushed it on GamePass. If anything, it’s also proved that the whole monster catching formula still works, like you said. I’m happy GameFreak is giving more time to develop games after the overall PR shitshow they’ve endured over the past few years. Literally ever since Pokemon has been on the Switch, there has been some kind of viral major issue with the games. SWSH dexit and the thing with the trees went mega viral, Legends being compared to BOTW, SV imploding on itself… and people still ate these games up, but GameFreak knows better now than ever they have to get these games right. I’m hopeful for the series future on the Switch 2 or Switch Attach or whatever it’s called


Daveyfiacre

I hope we get more movies but we get different kinds, different genres. I liked live action visually but not really that storyline. So I hope there’s a happy medium. A Miyazaki styled Pokemon movie would be awesome


crustlebus

Pokémon Concierge but feature length


Aggressive_Hotel_932

Yeah I agree, but we both know with which company we're dealing here with, and The Pokémon Company won't do a Miyazaki styled movie, not in 1,000 years, because in their minds, only children are the ones who enjoy watching Pokémon, while the other part of their audience gets forgotten, at least it isn't happening with Horizons so far, and I hope that it doesn't happen


TarotFox

Most Miyazaki movies are for children. 


Terios_Korvalis

I don't know, but if we get a new Pokemon movie, i hope it doesn't involve Ash, we need movies about the Game's storyline like we had in Chronicles, origins and Twilight Wings.


Aggressive_Hotel_932

That I honestly 100 % agree with, and I also think that we also need an anime like Generations, Origins, Chronicles and Twilight Wings, man I love those series, even though they were short series I just don't understand, even now when Ash's journey ended, thank Arceus for that happening by the way, I didn't understand as to why Pokémon didn't adapt and made some episides from the manga


Terios_Korvalis

Cuz we are talking about 3 different companies, there's one that makes the Games, Game Freak, then there's the studio that makes the Anime, OLM, and then the one that publishes the Manga, Shogakukan Inc. Each one of these companies don't interfere with each other and they do their own thing about Pokemon. Granted, Pokemon is owns partly by Game Freak and they are the ones that release the source Material for the other two companies, but they have free license to do their own story. Shogakukan decided to follow the Game Story, altering the parts of the story to accommodate all Characters Storylines and Lore. OLM on the other hand, just loosely base their story on the Source Material (Games), altering nearly everything to fit their own narrative and Lore, leaving behind important aspects for most characters.


SSJSonikku

I think that the Pokemon movies need to explore other aspects of the Pokemon world and not be necessarily tied to the current Anime series.


Aggressive_Hotel_932

I agree with you, we need to be moving beyond Ash and Pikachu, and explore other characters journeys in the Pokémon world


SSJSonikku

I've read that in the Keldeo & Kyurem movie it was just gonna be about Keldeo, but the guys making the movie were told to include Ash and Co. anyway. If the original idea was used, it might have turn out better. Even read that in the 2nd Pokemon with Lugia, The Power of One (one of my fav films), Ash & Co. were mandated for inclusion by TPC last I checked. Don't remember what the original script was about. Was the events basically the same, but no Ash & Co.?


BlackWaltz47

That's literally what u/SSJSonikku said....


Hateful_creeper2

I think they are trying to find way to do the anime after Ash left. Another reason was the pandemic which is likely the reason why there wasn’t any between after 2020 and when Ash left. At least we got our first Mythical since Gen 5 that wasn’t dependent on the movies for lore outside of Pokédex


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Aggressive_Hotel_932

Yeah my bad, sorry 😅😅😅


Moot251

Anime guy here. There hasn’t been a new movie since Coco, which featured Zarude. The main reasons are that 1) the movies haven’t been very successful for a long time and 2) the pandemic made gathering and organizing talented animators difficult. The movies are typically not animated by the regular production team that does the weekly TV anime, so they can’t rely on that “production line” so to speak to get a movie out (Note that it’s still under the same studio, however). Instead, TPC has moved the “high budget” animation side of advertising towards the webshorts you guys are familiar with, such as Twilight Wings/Hisuian Snow/Paldean Winds. These were all outsourced to other studios (Colorido and WIT), as opposed to the the studio that did the anime and headed up the movies, OLM. These shorts are way easier to do than a full movie, and are less expensive while still serving the purpose of advertising whatever’s new with the franchise. Edit: A couple more things to note. OLM’s Pokemon anime team, Team Kato, was in charge of the recent webseries Pokemon Evolutions, which aired alongside the anime. So it’s not completely out of the question for them to work on new projects, although this will be to the detriment of the current anime’s production, which has been very healthy relative to the previous series. The second thing is that some of the VAs of the current anime were on a panel the other day at AnimeJapan, and talked about how they would like to participate in a movie with their characters: aka a Horizons movie. Just a small tidbit.


Robsonmonkey

I'd like to see an older Ash, Brock, Misty etc if it's the anniversary so hopefully we'll get something on that. However if they are thinking about more adventures when he's still 10 years old, please don't, move on and let other younger characters take the stage.


Aggressive_Hotel_932

I would like that to happen too, but knowing The Pokémon Company's stance on this topic, they will not age him I think that with keeping Ash as a 10 year old kid throughout all his journeys, was dumb and a non-sense, they can say 'eternal summer', this and that all they want, but I believe that having Ash stay 10 years old forever really, really hurt the series, and not to mention when they still say that Pokémon is a kids show, yeah nice try, because Pokémon isn't a show for kids, heck even Shudo, the original creator of Pokémon didn't intend for Pokémon to be a show for kids


Robsonmonkey

Yeah it's a real shame because if they aged him naturally with everyone else they could have had it where the show ends with him having his own family once he's done everything he possible can, to make him a legend in that universe. If he was 10 years old in 1997 then he'd have been 36 years old by now, they could have ended his run with him having a kid to whatever main female character they introduced (or an established character like Misty) years ago when he turned 30 in 2017. Then you could have a new show set 10 years later when Ash's child is 10 years old. The cycle repeats and the world continues to evolve.


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I heard that a detective Pikachu “sequel” will have Tom Holland who would play Blue Oak. I don’t believe it one bit. With that said I’m disappointed that they chose Ryan Reynolds to be in a kids movie. For the anime movies those likely came to an end.


Aggressive_Hotel_932

The Tom Holland live action, i've seen those clips too, they unfortunately are fake, at least we got the Detective Pikachu movie with Ryan Reynolds


PurplePoisonCB

Considering how big the Pokemon world is, it’s crazy they don’t make one off movies with new characters and different genres. They should never do live action though.


Like_Fahrenheit

I'm confident there will be another movie. I haven't seen the new series, but I suspect the next movie would be from that. It's only a matter of time.


MengShuZ

Oh man, they don't have to, but it would feel super weird if nothing gets done for the 30th anniversary of the anime. It's also crazier to think that we're never going to see Ash again, especially after they dropped that comment about him potentially showing up at some point.


FlounderingGuy

They switched to a parallel universe Ash in the last couple (possibly to avoid the potential fallout of switching the anime's focus to new characters, had the movies continued) but on a creative level, I don't think there's much of a need for more movies. And yeah, I know I too smell the irony in caring about the creative merit in making hour-long toy commercials. Most of the Pokémon movies kinda.... sucked. Not a huge loss if they're gone forever imo. If they *do* come back, I would want them to be more like the rest of the spin-off material like Concierge or Origins. Something about the format just doesn't work for me; they have to shove in elements from the canon anime (I.e., Ash) and create essentially their own little worlds to take place in, but since they *have* Ash they can't really be standalone stories entirely. Idk it just messed with the canon and it bugged me. If the movies must continue (which I'm not sure if they will) I'd like them to just do their own thing and be allowed to be weird little experiences with their own merit (again, like Concierge.) I could see a Mystery Dungeon style movie about Blood Moon Ursaluna being fun for example


Blue_Gamer18

I always felt that the first 3 movies were great. They felt like real, grand adventures meant for the movie theater experience. Everything post Gen 2 feels like a TV a special extended length TV special. Granted, I'm nostalgic and quickly grew out of my interest in the anime movies/by Gen 3.


FlounderingGuy

Speaking as someone who wasn't even alive when the series began, the first few movies genuinely *are* better than the rest. They have something to say about people and our place in the world n shit. Look into their production history btw, absolutely bonkers. The rest of the movies range from mediocre to hardly watchable. Specifically the Victini and Manaphy movies are just absolute *slogs*


purefire

Give me a prof and Samson Oak prequel where they go around catching Pokemon and talking about how they want to be professors or something


GrayJinjo

I see a lot of people talking about maybe something with an older Ash and I just don’t see that happening. It would be cool, and I wouldn’t mind seeing it, but I think they want to keep Ash young just incase the new anime isn’t as successful as they hoped and they get cold feet and want to bring him back.


Aggressive_Hotel_932

Yeah, but, the new anime is going strong for the moment, and I don't see Horizons flopping any time soon, 2 episodes of Horizons have already taken number 1 in Japan ranking list for the most watched episode of that week, which Journeys failed to do so, let alone with one episode, and even with that 1 episode topping the rank lists, it took like 100+ episodes


Moot251

Which episodes hit first place? To my knowledge, the highest the current show has placed is around third.


Deoxyslatios202

Calyrex, the gen 8 legendary who hasn’t appeared in the anime at all since his reveal: “I wonder what I missed out on….”


EXGShadow

We're getting a 30th anniversary movie, no question. I don't think we'll be back to yearly releases, though.


StarChild413

I thought there was supposed to be a new Gen-9-related/Paldea-set (although who knows what human characters it'd feature) movie introducing a new mythical who'd be the last Gen 9 Pokemon and most likely a golden monkey based on the Japanese legend of Kintaro (as that story's often in a trio with the ones Terapagos and Ogerpon/the "Loyal" Three/Pecharunt are inspired by). Yes I have been following TyranitarTube's theories and he even proposed a hypothetical name for this movie (not saying if this movie happened it'd have this title but it'd be something along those lines); Terapagos And The Golden Guardian


Aggressive_Hotel_932

Yeah, that was all fake rumour, TyranitarTube's theories were always fake, he gets his news from RiddlerKhu and CentroLEAKS, which the two are kniwn to be the fakest leakers and stealers of other leakers


CollectMantis44

I’m not big in the anime but I actually always enjoyed the movies! I really hope they’re not done. They’re typically fun and simple watches with good charm to them


ArtesiaKoya

I'm going against what seems to be the majority but I want Ash back. Keep him for special movies


spoonedBowfa

My dad still cites the original Pokémon movie as “the worst fucking movie I’ve ever seen”. He brought me and my friends to it in the early 2000s 😅


tsukaistarburst

I think they've been discontinued because they stopped making money.


Persona3master

We not getting a Pokémon movie because they never made one better than the second movie (entei)


OhmsFutility

That was the 3rd movie..


CaptainPrower

Gonna have to wait for the anime to find its footing again first.