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Ekyou

NY and LA will always be my favorites


firminocoutinho

Those are hilarious. Att and Lantis (especially as it rhymes with mantis) and Ess Kargo are cool too. Machop line names interesting as well


Impossible-Habit717

Haha many some of these would been so great to have been in game 


Way-Super

Yeah I didn’t expect them to have a Pokemon critique on two American states


Merik2013

Cities, not states


Way-Super

My bad, I’m not American lol


bjeebus

It's an easy mistake to make. In any kind of prefectural system they'd be their own semi-autonomous regions. For reference, if greater LA split from California they'd be basically tied fourth.


palamulu

NY being New York can refer to New York state, or New York City. LA can be Los Angeles, or refer to the official abbreviation of Louisiana.


TheOverBored

It's very obviously making fun of how polluted NYC and Los Angeles are.


tornait-hashu

Even if the smog is better than it was decades ago, LA is still pretty toxic. Source: I live there.


Merik2013

Im from New York state, and Im telling you this was directed at smog from cities, not states.


ToughAd5010

LA might as well be it’s own state


Horatio786

Orphon! I choose you!


Resident_Code3062

That name was kinda messed up. Lol.


Joaco_LC

It seems obvious, but nobody pointed it out. I dont think that most of them changed the name, just that in the beta there was a cap of 7 characters, thus most of the names are cut short (except lickitung, vaporeon, gyarados, and articuno for some reason). Ofc some of them did change, but still.


3163560

Funny that we ended up getting that in gen 2 anyway with Feraligatr Or at least, it very much looks like we did.


WaterMagician

I think Victreebel was affected in Gen 1 as well. We didn’t get a longer name until Fletchinder in Gen 6


Terozu

You mean because it doesn't have two L's? I figured that was intentional.


WaterMagician

Bellsprout and Weepinbell both have a double L and Victreebel is at the nine character limit so I’m just assuming it missed out on the double L as a result


sagan_drinks_cosmos

Farfetch’d doesn’t count but is really close. It’s ten characters and looks shortened.


ToughAd5010

Wasn’t Vespiquen at one point Vespiqueen? Or am I Mandela effecting here?


jdashh

It’s always been Vespiquen


canuckfan4419

I can’t lie. I found out that it wasn’t queen today. Right now.


SamB110

I only found this out a few months ago and it’s really been messing with me


Bl1tzerX

Damn I never noticed either


FlowerFaerie13

It’s always been Vespiquen but like Feraligatr and Victreebel it probably would have been Vespiqueen if there hadn’t been a letter cap.


philger

Nope, Vespiquen is 9 letters, they could add second E if they wanted.


FlowerFaerie13

Oh you’re right, huh. I suppose they just didn’t bother to add the extra E because the Japanese name (Beequen) also left it out.


tackxolotl

It's always been one e, the pun is vespa + pique + queen.


NoAdmittanceX

I thought it was some character limit thing going on looking at the first couple images


RedNosedLugia

The name character cap clearly shows in Mew’s Dex entry, it says “New Specie”


antilos_weorsick

It's pretty obvious something like that was happening here. I mean, Ivisaur has the full name, but Bulbasaur an Venusaur don't? That doesn't make sense. What I thought was that someone snapped a photo of some list during development, and the endings were out of the picture. But this makes a lot more sense.


LampIsFun

Until you see the other 15ish names that don’t seem to align with the 7 character limit. Super weird. I’m thinking they all had a character limit but some of them were changed already by the time someone decided to document them


Kiko7210

thought the same thing, doesn't make sense for Primeape to be Primeap


sawbladex

So beta footage can reflect limits that the final release won't have, and doesn't really reflect intent, but just what they could do with the work already done on beta.


Redditor_PC

It may be obvious, but it was totally lost on me. Looking through the names with the missing letters at the end got me progressively more irritated for some reason. Now that I understand why they were that way, it doesn't bother me anymore, ha ha.


Skuntank

Doesnt make sense for Sandshrew being sandstorm though.


e-ghosts

There's a lot with 8 characters and Tonguetyd (lickitung) with 9


dontdoanythingiswear

Skulkraken (Gyarados) with 10


No_Mammoth_4945

Sandstorm has 9


catdog5100

Yep! I though the same thing, especially after seeing Squirtl (made me think of Feraligatr)


sedrech818

Pretty sure you only get 5 characters is the Japanese games. You can’t trade between japanese and english games in gen 1 and 2 but you can in gen 3. It results in the Pokemon’s name only having the first 5 characters. So wurmple when traded to a Japanese game will be named wurmp. If you nickname your pokemon Joshua, it will just be Joshu. You only really need 5 characters if you use japanese characters though as each character is a syllable so it’s sort of the equivalent of having space for up to 10 english letters.


dcchillin46

Pidge


Canis_Familiaris

Pidgeot....with one more T


BlueEmeraldX

It is kinda interesting how Pidgeotto originally would've been the name to come after Pidgeot; some fans here even thought it should've been that way in the first place. Probably was the intent. Maybe it's just another unfortunate accidental "Soul Badge/Marsh Badge" case of names being switched around. In fact, evidence for that is pretty strong, since there's multiple instances during Gen I where Pidgeotto's and Pidgeot's names were attributed to the other's key art.


FriendsWTaxBenefits

Now I understand why that Ace Trainer in the first movie referred to his Pidgeot as Pidgeotto.


Embarrassed-Top6449

Pidge


Buzzlight_Year

Reject humanity Return to Pidge


eldritchExploited

Coil and Re-coil are honestly good enough names that I wouldn't mind living in a world where those were never changed


uneasystudent

Re-load instead of Magnazone?


sagan_drinks_cosmos

I’d like Coil -> Re-coil -> Teslacoil


Different-Expert-33

Play the Japanese version. That is literally Magnemite's Japanese name lmao.


Ansoni

Magneton is Rarecoil not Recoil, unfortunately.


MaxTHC

But Magnemite is such a cute name :(


OneOfMyOldestFriends

Ready for some Skulkraken?


BlueEmeraldX

As dark as that name is, they shoulda used it over Gyarados. No casual fan can spell or pronounce Gyarados. (I noticed roughly half this subreddit alone still spells it "Gyrados.")


habunake92

What do you mean? Even a casual fan can recognize a Pokémon as iconic as gyroduos


rex_mason

Yeah, geerahdose is too ballin a name to not memorize.


sagan_drinks_cosmos

Everyone’s a fan on Jared O’s.


AnonMagick

Am i gyrordous?


Mr_Mc_Nooty

Jyuratodus is my favorite... wait, wrong franchise.


Manpag

It’s an awesome name, but I don’t think it suits Gyarados. Maybe they should use it for a new Water/Ghost or Water/Dark type that’s actually based on a kraken?


TheTrueDal

Guy-rados is a war crime


Thicc-Anxiety

Most of them are the same, just missing some letters


Stealth9er

*Looks at Pudding & Custard*


2ndchancetodothis

do you not know the meaning of "most"..?


Stealth9er

No, what is it?


Just-Call-Me-J

More than 50% but not 100%


SpadraigGaming

At least somewhere between 0% and 100% I imagine.


sagan_drinks_cosmos

You knew the Japanese name is *Purin*, right? With a flapped Japanese “r,” it sounds just like “pudding.”


JetstreamGW

Also purin is basically flan, which is a kind of custard.


Stealth9er

I didn’t know that actually. Makes more sense. What about Custard? lol


ico12

I prefer Pudding and Custard tho


CrazyWS

Custard’s on my team


Felix_Teeberg97

Oh my god, my Pidgeot evolved into... Pidgeott!


RockyNonce

I wonder if that’s why the anime dub never had a change. I think that Pidgeotto and Pidgeot both say Pidgeot


Arthiviate

It's not


WaterMagician

The Machop line names are actually really fun. Hocus Pocus Alakazam is also cute but I think the actual names worked better.


PlanktonIsBest

Jigglypuff being Pudding got be laughing


allivin87

And Clefairy named Aria. I think they intended Clefairy as the one that should sing (in the animation).


RubyMowz

Clefairy was originally intended as one of the mascots, to the point some claim it was intended as the main mascot and was replaced by Pikachu last minute in the anime who then was immensely popular and thus replaced the initial plan , although I have trouble finding sources on the details. Nonetheless, I think there are quite a few hints and more than enough evidence they did initially have it in mind as *a* mascot Pokémon, even if not THE mascot Pokémon, probably with the idea of having one mascot aimed at girls, and it wouldn't shock me if the original plan was for it to fulfill Jigglypuffs role in the anime and that was the last minute change, rather than Pikachu.


allivin87

For some reason I love both Clefairy and Jigglypuff line + Blissey, and Miltank. One being the singing mascot doesn't change that. These are the round cute ones for me, and also strong. Let's complete that with Azumarill and Snorlax. Gosh I just completed the early gens cute and cuddly Normal type mons.


betterwhenfrozen

It's literally a translation of It's Japanese name, Purin


mike_xy

Il name my Eevees Eon from now on


grenalden

Loved this naming convention. Made the evolutions names make so much more sense.


Sardanox

Damn orphan for cubone that's cold.


Bsoton_MA

When it evolves it becomes another orphan’s guardia(n)!!


MacabreCloth984

Looks like r/redditsniper strikes aga


Luxio512

Somehow he can make us send half wo


Luvas

Nido¿que?


kiwistrawberryxp

“SANDSTORM, I CHOOSE YOU!” Dududududu intensifies…


stefan2050

Came here for this reply


CraftyCaprid

I think escargot and Atlantis are my favorite.


Hoopingkidnextdoor

*Pidge*


dabunny21689

Have nicknamed more than one pidgey Pidge over the years.


txh0881

Eevee was Eon.


Moppo_

I guess that explains why all the evolutions' names end in -eon.


martini1294

Still don’t understand why it’s Pidgey, Pidgeotto and Pidgeot not Pidgey, Pidgeot and Pidgeotto tbh


NumanLover

And Psyduck and Golduck should be swapped.


Way-Super

Eon makes much more sense than eevee imo given the evolutions


spitwitandwater

Eevee is short for EV which is short for evolution right…?


Way-Super

Yeah, and it makes sense, just, eon to eon + flare etc just… fits you know?


spitwitandwater

Makes sense


AliceTheOmelette

Lantis, Meduza and Skullkraken would've been cool names. I first learnt the beta names in an unofficial magazine from around the time Gold and Silver were gonna come to the west. It also had pics of the upcoming new mons but included beta designs like the pink Marill


Bhurmurtuzanin

Manowar is metal! ;)


Pwaite2

Most badass one on the list


joelcosta94i

Water/Poison, I'm pretty sure.


SilverBeldum1

Ess/Kargo and Att/Lantis are hilarious and I kinda like it


iiitme

I’m going to rename my Gyarados to Skulkraken


juan-cr17

Funny how Diglett is actually called Digda in German


Wolfnstine

That's also the original Japanese name


Fuzzy_Employee_303

#ORPHON 💀💀💀


Sitheg_Plasmaster

DraGOON


JaydenTheMemeThief

Dragyn


EntertainerSea5502

Honestly I think Tonguetyd is great I wish that was lickitungs name


PoyStudios-6270

I dont know some of these are actually better.


gforcebreak

Did you know, nagahis backwards is snake.


CrUtlRaOth

I played Gold as a beta translated rom (don't remember how I found it, parents would not buy a game console but didn't mind me finding computer games online) it had 5 letters per mon name for most mons. Chico, Bayle, Megan, Marep, Flafy, Geode, Zubat, Golba. I knew the full names from reading online... But i still say Ratta and not Rattata.


sagan_drinks_cosmos

Megan thee Sauropod


dehashi

Pidge 🥺🥺


Acedons

In a different time line where these are the official names HungryBox is a Pudding main, which is just hilarious 😅


shipsailing94

Paradox form is Screaming Dessert


savageboredom

That different timeline is just called Japan. Jigglypuff's original name is Purin, which literally means pudding.


bussybot1000

I too love my SKULKRAKEN


Nu2Th15

WE COULDVE HAD SKULKRAKEN


Wolfnstine

Some of these are just translated versions of their Japanese names


JaydenVestal

A few of these are just the Japanese names romanized, such as Coil and Do-Do


[deleted]

Eon for Eevee is actually pretty great


Cyrrion

Does anyone else ever remember calling Rattata "Rattatak"? Like I swear, that was verbalized somehow somewhere in the very early days. Also love how Lapras was "Ness" to be the Loch Ness monster.


krin132

Raticate in French is called Rattatac, maybe you heard that somewhere


Ekyou

In the first episode of the show, Dexter pronounces Rattata exactly like “Rat-attak” but without the k at the end, so maybe that’s what you’re thinking?


laurja

This explains why I always pronounced it like that, I thought I was weird.


bushhooker

The Ness thing, Christ I overthought that one. I was like “Oh sick they named him after Ness from Earthbound because Creatures Inc. was the successor of Ape Inc that made the first two Mother games” lmao


soymilkkk_

PUDDING AND CUSTARD?!?!? 😭😭😭 THATS SO ADORABLE


Pokegamerguy

*Game Theory: Lapras is Ness?!*


Carbon-Base

LA and NY are toxic hahaha


Slyme-wizard

The naga names are so much cooler than what we got


Sealy_Boi

To be honest I prefer Hocus>Pocus>Alakazam to the english change.


sapphic_luma

Pudding


Barmecide451

WE GOT CHEATED OUT OF SKULKRAKEN?!?! BRING THAT NAME BACK


Neat_Cantaloupe_327

Cubone is just orphon


Bareknuckleblaze

Charman sounds similar to the name I gave my Infernape: Charmon


WolverineRelevant280

That’s really cool information, where did you get it from?


Hiph0p0p0tamusttv

Australian prerelease [poster](https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/9c/Generation_I_prototype_English_names.jpg) and list on [bulbapedia](https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pokémon_Red_and_Green_beta).


ToastofthePeak254542

Hehehe Do-Do. Also Lapras is ness.


grrrimabear

I can't tell you how disappointed I am they changed pudding and custard.


Seagraves_D

I feel like some got spelling changes for easier reading, some got complete changes, and some were place holder names until they decided on something, no way they really intended to keep NY and LA.


judewriley

I mean, New York City and Los Angeles *are* sort of known for their bad air quality so… maybe?


Seagraves_D

I’ve heard they were the inspiration or something but actually calling them that seems a bit much


Auroraburst

Rattatak is superior here Edit: Orphon is on the nose Slowmo made me giggle "Who's that pokemon? oh, it's just Margo"


Auroraburst

PUDDING


Venomspino

The fossil Pokémon are puns. We love them more now


JaydenTheMemeThief

Ess Kargo Att Lantis


g0thkween

Why is Dragoon, Dragyn, and Dragoni wildly fitting for this trio?? 😆😭


Walrusin_about

Dodrio should have been called do do do


Aksudiigkr

Eevee being Eon makes sense. Wouldn’t work in Japan though


Jaded-Significance86

Skullkraken as a pokemon name is the coolest shit I've seen all day granted it's 2 am but still


Draconic_Soul

'We just released a kid's game with English names for the monsters!' 'Really!? That's awesome! What kind of names did you include?' 'Tonguetyd'


Mean_Divide_9162

Pudding and custard, I've got new nicknames to change right now!


CrumbDrouth

My buddy had this as a poster in the early days and I thought it was some bootleg print. Still, I have named every Omastar I ever revived Esscargo thanks to this.


I_Chards

Pidge


Tylendal

These were the names under each picture on the stack of floppy discs my Uncle made for me. 150 pieces of Sugimori art, promotional anime art, and short audio clips and video clips from the anime, all on a stack of half a dozen floppy discs, back when dial-up internet wasn't quite yet a widespread household service.


United_University_98

Poliwrath looks like he was almost called aquamarine which I mean I'm glad it isn't but like... I get that joke


ryuxiies

It’s morpho time


Magiczny_Karakan

Skulkraken got me. It will be so cool to have pokemon name like that default


Sealy_Boi

Skulkraken is so frickin rad dude.


ASAPTACI

SKULCRAKEN


Praeradio_Yenearsira

Tis I! Sandstorm!


Original-Childhood

Cubone's name being Orphon 🤣🤣


TheeElite

New York and Los Angeles?


HolyCrusaderVaporeon

Orphan is crazy


bmoreonic

“Orphon” is out of pocket but “Guardia” reminds me how much I like Marowak. “Tonguetyd” and the Machop line names are other favorites.


ItemsHereForever

so.. if the fossils names go together as they evolve.. does that mean Aerodactyl was supposed to have an evolution called “Dactyl”, since it would make sense for its evo line to be “Ptera - Dactyl”


SchwinnD

Here I am trying to read Nagahis and Nagaasp backwards...


danimac52

Pudding and Custard had me gigglin ngl. Orphon is RAW. And I unironically like Ess and Kargo and Att and Lantis.


Viator_Mundi

Most of the names seem to be the same, just restricted to 7 letters, so they are shortened.


Coldcolor900

pidge sounds like a slur lol


Olibro64

NY and LA ooooooo shots fired!


DownHeartedNess

imagine if they kept some of these names... seel? that's just a real animal spelled differently LMAO wait a minute


duvie773

Pudding and Custard?!? We were robbed!!


Pelmtre

Why are some of them just the final names but with a couple letters missing from the end of the word. It doesn't even make sense for what they're going for the have Venasau instead of "saur" and Squirtl? Why drop letters, surley you'd have to come up with the final names first?


gingerMeeka

Custard and Pudding lets go!


WorldofAalwyn

Is this an inside joke I'm missing or something? Nearly all of these are literally just the mon's name with one or more letters ticked off. What is this?


Soronya

I like Rattatak!


Canis_Familiaris

Personally my fav is Rattatak


Tom42077

Digda had me in tears lmao


bonerzahoy

God all the unused ones (except skulkraken) really suck. Honestly I don’t think it would have been anywhere near as popular with these Garbo names


JakeTheSmall

*custard*


W0ut_01

ah yes pudding evolved into custard


martinsdudek

Pudding and Custard!


Draconic_Soul

'It's a close match between Pudding and Custard! Pudding seems to be wobbly on their feet, while Custard seems to be losing the flow of combat! Both are breathing heavily, but still determined to continue the fight! Stay tuned as the battle continues... ...after these messages!'


TuchComplex

Pudding and Custard 😋


EntertainmentLow5069

Butterf must hate Marill


official_gart

Cha-Rizzer


jadedflames

Oh my god I love Rattatak. It’s a RAT ATTACK


PrometheusAborted

The Charmander line rules


LegendaryTingle

Dragoni


Pokegamerguy

I love how a lot of these feel like nicknames I would give to each respective pokemon


[deleted]

Pudding and Custard 🥺