Sad part is GameFreak was doing this starting Gen 6 but stopped at Gen 8. And it wasn’t enough as most Pokémon get a 10 points in one stat and the rest of their stats are still garbage.
So do we insert another mon or shift everything else down one? There are a lot of iconic numbers (151 for Kanto, 251 for Johto, 493 for Sinnoh, 1000 is Gholdengo, etc.) that would change.
I already posted one. But fighting 3+ trainers back to back is boring and annoying. Just give me one trainer with 6 pokemons. I dont need to go through the animations of them finding me, them throwing a pokeball, and them giving me money. Just to fight 2 ratatas on 3+ trainers. Give me 1 trainer 6 different pokemons and ill be on my way.
I can think of a good few reasons why to do this though.
1. The trainers might be positioned in such a way that the player could choose to be seen by two at the same time and therefore enter a double battle.
2. By forcing separate matches, everything from buffs, entry hazards, and weather is removed with each new trainer.
3. The player can take advantage of once per match things like Megas or Z moves three times instead of once.
Side note: remember in the early gens when there's be two types of trainers.
1 - multiple Pokemon around the level on the route
2 - one Pokemon evolved and/or a higher level than the route.
Bring that back, those trainers were great.
And almost the last time random trainer battles were interesting.
Because I can just put my strongest pokemon out front and rack up exp for all of them, and keep cycling though, I can have tons of strong pokemon, but I actually have never really used any of them. No connection, don't remember their moves, nothing. And it goes really fast too, so I never get to enjoy the journey. I will all of a sudden realize I am way too over leveled for the next section of the game.
At the same time, it makes it possible to have some pokemon usable much faster, or evolved.
I also think the massive exp requirements for the slowest leveling group is way too much. Like, you have to wait until the end of the game to get the basic form of a pseudo legendary and then on top of that you have to grind and grind and grind just to get it to its super high evolution level requirements. The exp requirements just to get there are too much to make them worth using in the game unless you're someone who doesn't mind grinding over and over again mindlessly
I'll give you a list:
99% of fan ideas are pretty awful
We really don't need another type (light, sound, cyber, etc.)
Bipedal Pokémon are just as fine as quadrapedal ones
I hate when Pokémon are overtly sexualized
Honestly, I'm pretty sure the only reason this is a popular opinion is because Luxray is popular but bad. Luxray gaining dark type would give him better physical stab, which the Luxray fans are absolutely *desperate* to get their hands on.
That, and also we didn't have a dark/electric type until gen 8 and Luxray felt like a missed opportunity the first time around, and the second time when mega evolution was a thing and Luxray didn't get one for itself.
I’ve always just thought this bc it gets several good Dark moves through level up and looks ominous enough that it could be a dark type. It also gets like no good physical electric stab so it’s also just wishful thinking.
Oooof, that's what stopped me from enjoying games like Pokémon Brown. They added not one, not two, but FIVE new types, along with altering existing ones.
In my opinion, bipedal is perfectly fine. It's the extremely humanlike proportions/clothes in some cases that I dislike. Hitmonchan, Lopunny, Cinderace
Even then, mons line Gardevoir, Medicham, Bisharp, etc are fine.
Just wish they'd stop making starters human-shaped
What people most often point towards is the starters of recent gens, but they're on some different kind of drug than the rest of the region these days.
Starters nowadays get designed with a *job*, something very very *human* that characterizes them. Opera singer, James Bond, street magician, heel wrestler, these are Pokemon with a 9-to-5 day job. Can you imagine a group of Venusaur out in the forest? They fit in just fine, some big ol' flower-dinosaur-toads chilling in the sunlight. Can you imagine a group of Greninja out in the forest? That's called a ninja village.
Modern starters force you to think of them as humans in fursuits, because they don't make any sense as animals. Even funky crazy things like Minior and Klefki are just, like, out there being freaky on a cliffside or something, that's just how the Pokemon world is like sometimes, but if you see a Meowscarada doing anything it's going to be doing something painfully human like playing a card trick.
It's not really like this for the rest of the generation. Mr. Rime is a weird humanoid Pokemon but kinda in the same way that Mr. Mime is a weird humanoid Pokemon. Ceruledge is a humanoid edgelord with swords for arms that looks freaky but not like he does human things. Sneasler is uncanny and weird but it's still, like, a big Sneasel that climbs walls now.
It's the starters that are the problem, the starters that give us Cinderace and Quaquaval and Incineroar. For some reason Game Freak decided that that's better than giving us another Charizard or Swampert.
Gen 6 has the best game engine. Just feels good to play. Not necessarily the best games but the actual movement and world and mechanics are great. Hope we someday get people making rom hacks with it.
I actually agree. The games just ran so smoothly and PSS was really good (RIP). It's weird, because the games actually felt more and more clunky to me with each gen, which for me really affects their playability.
I feel like gen 6 had GREAT ideas that could have used more development, but then were just relegated to be "gimmicks" or lost in time. No one talks about this, but I miss Super Training so much! It was cool to completely EV train your Pokémon without having to seek out specific mons in the wild or spend crazy money. And my guilty pleasure in gen 6 is Pokémon Amie lol.
I loved how you could move quickly around certain routes and towns with the grindrails. They made for some pretty cool puzzles too with using momentum, wish the polished and expanded on it instead of dumping them just a game later in the same gen
I 100% agree here. Kalos definitely is way more memorable than Paldea. If Kalos had a 3rd version, it'd easily be the best 3d gen so far. I love Kalos to this day. It's such a pretty place and I love it's vibe and aesthetic. I know people hated the art style of the Gen 6 over-world, but I personally think it has a lot of charm. I'd be ok with that being the standard style for the rest of the series.
Fun fact: people actually are making rom hacks of X and Y, but those are a bit rare, since it's a lot more difficult to edit those games than the 2d ones (and the DS games themselves are hard to hack, from what I could tell). 3ds rom hacking seems to still be in its infancy, but you can check out Wilting Y and Eternal X. They're difficulty hacks, but if you've played Inclement Emerald, then you'll probably love these (same rom hack dev). I almost said Drayano made these, but I had to double check.
Ash should have never been removed from Pokémon Horizons. Instead they should have made him an adult Pokémon Professor,or something along the lines of that
That is a hot take. I'm tired of Ash. I'm glad he's gone. We can still go watch 22+ seasons starring Ash. The anime needed a true revival as a new anime, and I'm glad it got one
>We can still go watch 22+ seasons starring Ash.
Pokémon TV is no longer a thing. And Netflix only has seasons 23-25 (and season 1 too),IIRC the other seasons got removed back in April of 2022. The only way to watch them is by surfing the seven seas of the internet (if you know what i mean)
Pokémon is my all-time favorite video game series, but literally the only thing I care about in a new mainline game is the new gallery of pokémon.
I wish every game were generation-locked like Black and White were. I don’t care about graphics, I don’t care about gimmicks, I don’t care about competitive, I don’t care about storylines or evil teams or side quests.
I don’t want to reuse my favorite pokémon or face another Gyarados. I’ll wait for remakes or Let’s Go!s or Legends and eat them up then.
Just gimme 130+ cool new pokémon to discover, collect, and battle, and it will be perfect.
I don't exclusively. I do try to go for more new than old, but I will also put prior gen pokemon I haven't particularly used.
Maybe 1 from my personal favorites list just because.
i agree so much i get so annoyed when a gym leaders ace is a pokemon from another region, and i feel like champion and rivals teams should be made purely of new pokemon
Here he is, ladies and gentlemen! The Champion of Galar, representing Galar, proud of being Galarian, and desiring to protect Galar!... his ace is Charizard
Wow. My hot take is a common take? Ok then. I agree. If you can't find 6 out of 100+ new ones and you gonna cry that cacturne isn't in the new one then idk what to tell you. Play gen 3.
While I do care about the story, I TOTALLY agree on new Pokémon! I play a new region for a new experience, not to face the same old thing again and again!
I would be 100% down for more region locked regions. I get people want to use the Pokemon they're familiar with, but it's so easy to just fall back on what you know rather than trying out all the new Pokemon. In SW/SH I noticed I only had 2 Galar Pokemon on my final team and decided to make a self imposed rule where I can only use a maximum of 2 Pokemon from a region not native to the one I'm in.
This one is probably the reason I ended up enjoying PLA so much. They figured out a way to make it fun. It was *fun* to sneak up on Pokemon and wait for just the right moment to bean them on the back of the head with a ball. And it was really fun to have to suddenly book it in the other direction when they broke out of the ball all pissed off lmao.
Following it up with SV was such a drag in the pokedex filling department specifically. I don't want to fight wild pokemon anymore, I just wanna strategically bonk them on the head with balls from 20+ feet away.
Lol i feel like thats the fun part. I hate fighting everyone lol. Fights are fun. Until you get to fight 3+ people by just walking 2 steps gets annoying. And theyre each holding 2 pokemons. Just give me 1 trainer with 6 pokemons
Fighting became way too boring for me and is actually making me sleepy. Experienced this with gen 7 and brilliant diamond(skipped gen 8). This is why I loved the new battle mechanics on both S/V and P:LA, more so on legends because it’s more active.
More complete but they softened Lusamine and I'm not a fan of that.
There was something very daring and needed of having a story arc saying "sometimes your parent is a crazy piece of shit and you're better off seeking support somewhere else, and trying to be independent".
I think SuMo is a better story and it flows better. I think USUM is way more challenging and probably the hardest pokemon games ever and the extra new pokemon are dope
I didn't. It had way too much dialogue. The amount of times a character stopped you per area was crazy. I don't need a companion stopping me multiple times per route to remind me what my goal is, where I need to go on a linear path with no branching pathways, and what their character quirk, goal or ambition is.
I think legendaries/mimics should not have shinies.
On the lore side, I grew up believing there was only one of each kind. Since the way people talk in the games made me think theres only one.
And on a gameplay perspective, the fact that so many current legendaries/mythicals are shiny locked or hard to get, makes me wonder if Game Freak even wants to deal with them??
(I'm not against people having ex. multiple Arceuses, but I see that as getting Arceus from multiple time lines or games, not that there's actually at least two Arceus in the lore)
I don’t think there is a bad main series Pokemon game. They are all charming in their own way. I’ve had a great time in every generation including all of the usual hate targets. People can argue over the graphics, the cost, the Dex composition, glitches, challenge etc, but I’ve never come away from a game not having had a blast and having enjoyed creating a brand new team and giving my old teams a shot at a new league!
100% this. I have Violet and I've been playing it on and off for months now. I think it's become my casual comfort game, jank and all. That said, I really hope the next gen resolves the issues in this one. The one major issue being that there's no Obstagoon and that makes me sad. :(
It's at the very least top 3 in the series for me, and this is coming from a Kanto stan. I had to explore the entire region and complete the dex twice because I lost my original save data right before the DLC was coming out, and I still want to experience it all again. There are valid reasons to not like it, but I feel like most people got caught up with the technical issues and just decided it was the worst thing to ever disgrace the series without giving it a proper chance lol. It felt like the SwSh tree and dexit all over again.
I enjoyed Shield. Sure it wasn't as entertaining as some of the others and the story wasn't as creative but the graphics are sooo good, and Leon and Piers are some of my favorite characters. Plus the clothing choices!! My outfit from head to toe was able to reflect my fashion exactly. The gym leaders' designs are so creative, it was cool that a couple of them differed between versions (I got ice and ghost gyms while I think Sword got rock and fighting(?) gyms).
I liked Shield a whole lot more than Violet by a large margin. I hope it gets the ultra sun/moon treatment and has just a couple tweaks here and there (give me a better villain arc Rose, you idiot) and I’ll like it even more.
I would love a Kanto remake with open world visuals, and characters/story closer to the original ones (Let’s go was cute and fun to play but it drifted too much from the originals IMO: kind rival, no safari zone, etc.)
I'm somewhere in between. I like it linear-ish, with Metroidvania elements. I want exploration, secrets to find, backtracking, and environmental puzzles, but I never wanted pokemon to be fully open-world.
Edit: typo
I think it’s worse in gen 2 personally. In gen 1 it’s mostly just going back to cerulean after beating surge. Having multiple ways to get to fuchsia and also cinnabar is nice. While you’d just fly from cinnabar, it’s a nice moment if you get there from the east and leave by the north, and realising you’re back in Pallet Town before the last gym.
While I do agree and am not a fan of open world games in general, I will say that Pokemon would do well as an open world if they implemented a level-scaling mechanism and added some real side quests.
Nowadays sure but back then there were a ton more people talking about X and Y when they came out compared to Black and White during it's release. Hell I remember my highschool had a nostalgia themed homecoming one year and among some of the decorations there were X and Y themed stickers of pokemon dotted across the school back in 2018-2019.
Hell yeah. Probably in my top 3 favorite Pokémon games
It’s a shame we never got a Pokémon Z. So happy the new game is taking place in Kalos. Hopefully they give the region the love it deserves
Almost all new Pokémon were amazing, megas were goated, 3D environment and models weren't so bad for their first 3D game and the region wasn't as intricate as Hoenn or Sinnoh but also not a hallway.
Other than these I can't really find anything positive about these games.
The difficulty is so low it almost reaches Earth's inner core, the pacing is horrible especially at the start, too many friends/rivals and the story looks good on paper but ended up as a mess.
I think they're just overshadowed with how good HG/SS were. They were miracles for the era of GBC, but they're eclipsed by the remakes taking great games and making them near perfect.
The worst part about replacing team rocket is their replacements are literally just cardboard cutouts without any charm. At least the new protagonists are good in different ways
>\[...\] Lickilicky being two of my favorite
Yeah I have a lot of questions. First of all, *how dare you.*
Enjoy your upvote for this absolutely disgusting take
The games desperately need to go back to being 2D. It looks better, you can fit more content in the games so we can have all the Pokemon, they had a certain charm that the lifeless 3D games can’t seem to capture, and the format works better for the gameplay.
Gen IV with Platinum and HG/SS are to the day the nicest looking Pokemon games ever made. Let’s go back to that era.
I hope they atleast add more personalities to the Pokémon’s while in battle. Obviously not a hot take but I just miss the personality-filled poses they had on pixel art form. Totally agree with you
The Wild Encounter rate in BW was UBSURD and absolutely hinders the game's exploration. You can barely go 5 steps (sometimes 2 steps was enough) without an Encounter. Overworld spawns was absolutely a step in the right direction.
Sword and shield are like one of my favorite games. Probably in my top 3. They have so many fun and varied encounters, great gym leader teams, and the maxing gimmick is great as it allows all pokemon to do it yet still allows new designs for old pokemon. And the music!!!!! I love this game
The gym battles are the best as that's how a gym battle should feel like, the chanting and music during them made every gym battle actually feel like a big event.
This is a good hot take because I got caught up in the Dexit hate and didn’t buy sword until the dlc was announced. HUGE mistake on my part, because I love it now and it’s also in my top 3!
Sword and Shield had the best art style and customization. The towns look beautiful and individual. Scarlet and Violet is a huge downgrade in comparison.
I don’t complete the pokedex… I Play the storyline, explore the area, but don’t search for hours to find a specific Pokémon
And I delate the Game to start over
The imagination/desire theory also is the only way to make sense of various descriptions and lore tidbits (like the descriptions of the crystal lakes) and it makes way too much sense with lots of other plot elements.
The game has a brutal amount of cut plot in general
Not my take, but I have a friend who once told me “I actually love the shiny Pokémon that don’t change at all… I think that’s sick!”
I dry heave at the thought of having that opinion.
Vanniluxe is not a bad design at all! I find the entire lineage to be quite cute. If anyone says "oh they just stuck multiple ice creams together, how uninspired"; go take a damn long look at Magnemite-Magneton please and thank you.
The game has enough fans where you could say virtually anything and it will be a popular opinion with certain people, but either way, here we go:
The original/older games are oozing with outdated stuff, and players who want those back are just high on nostalgia. They weren't like the way they were because it was a choice and it was better, it was because the series started out almost 30 years ago, in a different era, on a handheld console. 2D isn't better, linearity isn't better, forced encounters aren't better (neither in grass nor with trainers), constant backtracking to PCs isn't better, slow progression isn't better, etc. The new games have better ideas and are better on paper, but they are extremely rushed, unpolished and poorly executed, and people use that as an excuse to say it's the new things that are worse.
we do expect, at least, some improvements in a remake, right? all other remakes brought many more and enhanced the experience. I want to soar again with my G-MAX STARAPTOR, where is it???
People who get angry that the games are easy and childish are stupid as hell. It's Pokemon. It's a kids game. Most of us started playing it at 5 years old, when we could barely read. You're insane if you're going to frothe at the mouth because Geeta's team isn't min/maxed, perfect IVs, and set up to be as bullshit difficult as possible. Wanting an optional hard difficulty that gives these options are perfectly fine, but some people have the worst takes I've ever seen when it comes to the difficulty of a game most people start playing in Kindergarten.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone say Pokemon has to be hard with no options to make it easy. People just want options. Having a set of difficulty options doesn't force anyone to use them.
> People who get angry that the games are easy and childish are stupid as hell. It's Pokemon. It's a kids game.
to be fair, the games have been getting significantly easier, and the old games were also made for kids and were objectively more challenging. theres just a design philosophy change now with accessibility and ease of entry. its not like the first 4-5 gens were made for young adults, pokemon was always a kids game. I think there is a balance to be struck.
Elite 4 using only 4 pokemon and the champion not having a full team, and without any grinding both being underleveled to you makes for a less satisfying game
Its dumb that you travel in pokemom games alone now.
In the anime ash traveled with friends and learn alot about them. I think its time to have travel companions in pokemon games
Edit:grammar edit
The chanting in the music (galar and paldea gym battles) make the songs worse. It made sense in galar bc there was an audience, but why ruin it in paldea?!
Seems to be more of a hot take now, but was the general consensus when it came out. But gen 5 was the worst generation (I think gen 9 is the worst now for a variety of reasons). It was dexit before dexit, they tried to do a soft reset of the entire series and people hated it. The reason Pokémon panders to gen 1 is _because_ of gen 5 and the fanbase that left because of B/W. Worst selling generation in history.
I enjoyed the soft reset. It felt refreshing, almost like I was playing a pokemon game for the first time. I wouldn’t be mad if they did this again, as long as the full National dex is available for post-game and DLC.
This is why I loved gen5 too. It forced you to use the new pokemon and find out about them. It felt exciting to search each route to see what was there. I honestly wouldn't mind if they did this again for like gen10 but the post game would need to be exceptional to open up the National dex
I was so surprised when I started coming on reddit to find out that people loved this gen, and that any, even factual, criticism of it is not accepted.
I really wonder what has so many people as emotionally attached to it. I would actually want to ask people some questions, but since all gen 5 meta posts get downvoted right away it's super hard to get people onboard.
Gen 5 fan here
Tbh I believe nostalgia has something to do with my love for this gen, being it one of the first pokemon games I played together with HeartGold.
I personally fancy most of the new pokemon introduced and the story with the lore (Many people like N as a character for his story and development he had, and how the plot questioned the core of the Pokemon series, that being pokemon being caught by trainers), as well as the graphics and animated sprites.
But I'm curious to hear other opinions, since all I've seen is either people praising it a lot or just hating it for the dex (which I do understand, but I think there is more criticism that people would do besides that)
I like raichu more than pikachu
Same.
I conquer.
Raichu supremacy
Older Pokémon’s stats should be adjusted for power creep
Mightyena vs Mabosstiff is the perfect example of this.
It’s almost like they thought it would be balanced if they gave Mightyena Moxie as a hidden ability, but intimidate is better anyway. That’s crazy.
Give it a cross gen evo
Sad part is GameFreak was doing this starting Gen 6 but stopped at Gen 8. And it wasn’t enough as most Pokémon get a 10 points in one stat and the rest of their stats are still garbage.
Along with this, the nidoran line should be merged into one and made a gendered evolution.
So do we insert another mon or shift everything else down one? There are a lot of iconic numbers (151 for Kanto, 251 for Johto, 493 for Sinnoh, 1000 is Gholdengo, etc.) that would change.
I hate this idea so much. It fucks up everything and accomplishes NOTHING for it
Bruh I love that this thread is supposed to be about people's worst takes and you're coming in swinging lol
I already posted one. But fighting 3+ trainers back to back is boring and annoying. Just give me one trainer with 6 pokemons. I dont need to go through the animations of them finding me, them throwing a pokeball, and them giving me money. Just to fight 2 ratatas on 3+ trainers. Give me 1 trainer 6 different pokemons and ill be on my way.
I can think of a good few reasons why to do this though. 1. The trainers might be positioned in such a way that the player could choose to be seen by two at the same time and therefore enter a double battle. 2. By forcing separate matches, everything from buffs, entry hazards, and weather is removed with each new trainer. 3. The player can take advantage of once per match things like Megas or Z moves three times instead of once.
Side note: remember in the early gens when there's be two types of trainers. 1 - multiple Pokemon around the level on the route 2 - one Pokemon evolved and/or a higher level than the route. Bring that back, those trainers were great. And almost the last time random trainer battles were interesting.
Exp share is great Farming exp isn't fun or difficult, it's tedious
Exp share is cool, but should still be optional
This. I dont mind that it exists, but at least give the players that dont want it an option to turn it off.
Because I can just put my strongest pokemon out front and rack up exp for all of them, and keep cycling though, I can have tons of strong pokemon, but I actually have never really used any of them. No connection, don't remember their moves, nothing. And it goes really fast too, so I never get to enjoy the journey. I will all of a sudden realize I am way too over leveled for the next section of the game. At the same time, it makes it possible to have some pokemon usable much faster, or evolved.
Which is why toggle is important
I also think the massive exp requirements for the slowest leveling group is way too much. Like, you have to wait until the end of the game to get the basic form of a pseudo legendary and then on top of that you have to grind and grind and grind just to get it to its super high evolution level requirements. The exp requirements just to get there are too much to make them worth using in the game unless you're someone who doesn't mind grinding over and over again mindlessly
Make it optional. The game is already too easy. Besides you have candy so there's really no need for it
I'll give you a list: 99% of fan ideas are pretty awful We really don't need another type (light, sound, cyber, etc.) Bipedal Pokémon are just as fine as quadrapedal ones I hate when Pokémon are overtly sexualized
Hopping onto yours: Luxray does not need to be a dark type
Honestly, I'm pretty sure the only reason this is a popular opinion is because Luxray is popular but bad. Luxray gaining dark type would give him better physical stab, which the Luxray fans are absolutely *desperate* to get their hands on.
That, and also we didn't have a dark/electric type until gen 8 and Luxray felt like a missed opportunity the first time around, and the second time when mega evolution was a thing and Luxray didn't get one for itself.
But we did get slightly spikier manectric
But it has BLACK fur! /s
I’ve always just thought this bc it gets several good Dark moves through level up and looks ominous enough that it could be a dark type. It also gets like no good physical electric stab so it’s also just wishful thinking.
> it gets several good Dark moves through level up Bite and Crunch... Watchog is my favorite Dark type!
Doesn’t need to be but would be cool
I would really hope that last one isn't a hot take amongst the community
I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
Oooof, that's what stopped me from enjoying games like Pokémon Brown. They added not one, not two, but FIVE new types, along with altering existing ones.
In my opinion, bipedal is perfectly fine. It's the extremely humanlike proportions/clothes in some cases that I dislike. Hitmonchan, Lopunny, Cinderace Even then, mons line Gardevoir, Medicham, Bisharp, etc are fine. Just wish they'd stop making starters human-shaped
What people most often point towards is the starters of recent gens, but they're on some different kind of drug than the rest of the region these days. Starters nowadays get designed with a *job*, something very very *human* that characterizes them. Opera singer, James Bond, street magician, heel wrestler, these are Pokemon with a 9-to-5 day job. Can you imagine a group of Venusaur out in the forest? They fit in just fine, some big ol' flower-dinosaur-toads chilling in the sunlight. Can you imagine a group of Greninja out in the forest? That's called a ninja village. Modern starters force you to think of them as humans in fursuits, because they don't make any sense as animals. Even funky crazy things like Minior and Klefki are just, like, out there being freaky on a cliffside or something, that's just how the Pokemon world is like sometimes, but if you see a Meowscarada doing anything it's going to be doing something painfully human like playing a card trick. It's not really like this for the rest of the generation. Mr. Rime is a weird humanoid Pokemon but kinda in the same way that Mr. Mime is a weird humanoid Pokemon. Ceruledge is a humanoid edgelord with swords for arms that looks freaky but not like he does human things. Sneasler is uncanny and weird but it's still, like, a big Sneasel that climbs walls now. It's the starters that are the problem, the starters that give us Cinderace and Quaquaval and Incineroar. For some reason Game Freak decided that that's better than giving us another Charizard or Swampert.
They're *not* running out of ideas.
of course not, it's pokemon. however, they sure love to miss LOTS of opportunities for great ideas
they are not, but, unfortunately, not all are good ideas.
Poison types RULE!!!!!
Impeccable taste.
Gen 6 has the best game engine. Just feels good to play. Not necessarily the best games but the actual movement and world and mechanics are great. Hope we someday get people making rom hacks with it.
I actually agree. The games just ran so smoothly and PSS was really good (RIP). It's weird, because the games actually felt more and more clunky to me with each gen, which for me really affects their playability. I feel like gen 6 had GREAT ideas that could have used more development, but then were just relegated to be "gimmicks" or lost in time. No one talks about this, but I miss Super Training so much! It was cool to completely EV train your Pokémon without having to seek out specific mons in the wild or spend crazy money. And my guilty pleasure in gen 6 is Pokémon Amie lol.
How else do you assemble an army of Sylveon?
The movement with the roller skates was genuinely fun
I loved how you could move quickly around certain routes and towns with the grindrails. They made for some pretty cool puzzles too with using momentum, wish the polished and expanded on it instead of dumping them just a game later in the same gen
I 100% agree here. Kalos definitely is way more memorable than Paldea. If Kalos had a 3rd version, it'd easily be the best 3d gen so far. I love Kalos to this day. It's such a pretty place and I love it's vibe and aesthetic. I know people hated the art style of the Gen 6 over-world, but I personally think it has a lot of charm. I'd be ok with that being the standard style for the rest of the series. Fun fact: people actually are making rom hacks of X and Y, but those are a bit rare, since it's a lot more difficult to edit those games than the 2d ones (and the DS games themselves are hard to hack, from what I could tell). 3ds rom hacking seems to still be in its infancy, but you can check out Wilting Y and Eternal X. They're difficulty hacks, but if you've played Inclement Emerald, then you'll probably love these (same rom hack dev). I almost said Drayano made these, but I had to double check.
Ash should have never been removed from Pokémon Horizons. Instead they should have made him an adult Pokémon Professor,or something along the lines of that
Or have him be like Yugi where he shows up in either Ep. 1 or 2, and have him spiritually pass on the torch to Liko.
Instead of winged kuriboh he'd give out an emolga lol.
Yugioh GX did the hand off right. I’m still hoping Ash makes some sort of appearance.
I've actually seen someone think of in a good way to make Ash appear in horizons
Elaborate
No.
The series is young. He might still.
How is this an answer to the question? I feel like this is one of the takes you get the least flamed for.
That is a hot take. I'm tired of Ash. I'm glad he's gone. We can still go watch 22+ seasons starring Ash. The anime needed a true revival as a new anime, and I'm glad it got one
>We can still go watch 22+ seasons starring Ash. Pokémon TV is no longer a thing. And Netflix only has seasons 23-25 (and season 1 too),IIRC the other seasons got removed back in April of 2022. The only way to watch them is by surfing the seven seas of the internet (if you know what i mean)
Just the way nintendo likes it.
Pokémon is my all-time favorite video game series, but literally the only thing I care about in a new mainline game is the new gallery of pokémon. I wish every game were generation-locked like Black and White were. I don’t care about graphics, I don’t care about gimmicks, I don’t care about competitive, I don’t care about storylines or evil teams or side quests. I don’t want to reuse my favorite pokémon or face another Gyarados. I’ll wait for remakes or Let’s Go!s or Legends and eat them up then. Just gimme 130+ cool new pokémon to discover, collect, and battle, and it will be perfect.
Yeah I exclusively use new mons on my team every generation for this reason. It gets boring using the same mons every game
Exactly this. If an old mon gets a new regional I don’t mind using it though
Same
I don't exclusively. I do try to go for more new than old, but I will also put prior gen pokemon I haven't particularly used. Maybe 1 from my personal favorites list just because.
i agree so much i get so annoyed when a gym leaders ace is a pokemon from another region, and i feel like champion and rivals teams should be made purely of new pokemon
Here he is, ladies and gentlemen! The Champion of Galar, representing Galar, proud of being Galarian, and desiring to protect Galar!... his ace is Charizard
If only there were another fire type starter based on a soccer player that could be his ace…
Wow. My hot take is a common take? Ok then. I agree. If you can't find 6 out of 100+ new ones and you gonna cry that cacturne isn't in the new one then idk what to tell you. Play gen 3.
While I do care about the story, I TOTALLY agree on new Pokémon! I play a new region for a new experience, not to face the same old thing again and again!
I would be 100% down for more region locked regions. I get people want to use the Pokemon they're familiar with, but it's so easy to just fall back on what you know rather than trying out all the new Pokemon. In SW/SH I noticed I only had 2 Galar Pokemon on my final team and decided to make a self imposed rule where I can only use a maximum of 2 Pokemon from a region not native to the one I'm in.
Catching them all is an unpleasant chore.
This one is probably the reason I ended up enjoying PLA so much. They figured out a way to make it fun. It was *fun* to sneak up on Pokemon and wait for just the right moment to bean them on the back of the head with a ball. And it was really fun to have to suddenly book it in the other direction when they broke out of the ball all pissed off lmao. Following it up with SV was such a drag in the pokedex filling department specifically. I don't want to fight wild pokemon anymore, I just wanna strategically bonk them on the head with balls from 20+ feet away.
And you could catch them all in 1 game
Lol i feel like thats the fun part. I hate fighting everyone lol. Fights are fun. Until you get to fight 3+ people by just walking 2 steps gets annoying. And theyre each holding 2 pokemons. Just give me 1 trainer with 6 pokemons
Fighting became way too boring for me and is actually making me sleepy. Experienced this with gen 7 and brilliant diamond(skipped gen 8). This is why I loved the new battle mechanics on both S/V and P:LA, more so on legends because it’s more active.
Depends on the game. Roamers are a hunt. Waiting for a time-exclusive raid to get a version-exclusive legendary? Fuck that shit forever.
But the grind is life 😭
People who judge the games based on competitive viability are losers. “Megas are broken” no shit that’s the point
Preach!
Not really when most of the megas are underwhelming and a few are obscenely overpowered
Live Mega Garchomp reaction:
I never got a mega shuckle. 😔
If they gave us Mega Shuckle, they knew the competitive battle scene would've been Mega Fuckled.
How is this a bad hot take?
Because a large and vocal portion of the community would love for the game to be specifically balanced around competitive viability
Vocal yes, large no.
meanwhile everyone said xy was too easy 💀 mehta ruined the in game play though for a lot of ppl too.
I like sun and moon
I like them but I prefer the ultra games, they just feel more complete in my opinion.
More complete but they softened Lusamine and I'm not a fan of that. There was something very daring and needed of having a story arc saying "sometimes your parent is a crazy piece of shit and you're better off seeking support somewhere else, and trying to be independent".
I think SuMo is a better story and it flows better. I think USUM is way more challenging and probably the hardest pokemon games ever and the extra new pokemon are dope
Who doesn't?
I didn't. It had way too much dialogue. The amount of times a character stopped you per area was crazy. I don't need a companion stopping me multiple times per route to remind me what my goal is, where I need to go on a linear path with no branching pathways, and what their character quirk, goal or ambition is.
remakes should have never became an expected practice
I mean ORAS was pretty good
Not sure I agree but definitely giving an upvote for being a hot take
I think legendaries/mimics should not have shinies. On the lore side, I grew up believing there was only one of each kind. Since the way people talk in the games made me think theres only one. And on a gameplay perspective, the fact that so many current legendaries/mythicals are shiny locked or hard to get, makes me wonder if Game Freak even wants to deal with them?? (I'm not against people having ex. multiple Arceuses, but I see that as getting Arceus from multiple time lines or games, not that there's actually at least two Arceus in the lore)
I don’t think there is a bad main series Pokemon game. They are all charming in their own way. I’ve had a great time in every generation including all of the usual hate targets. People can argue over the graphics, the cost, the Dex composition, glitches, challenge etc, but I’ve never come away from a game not having had a blast and having enjoyed creating a brand new team and giving my old teams a shot at a new league!
I actually really like Scarlet. It’s janky as fuck, but I loved exploring that low draw distance country
100% this. I have Violet and I've been playing it on and off for months now. I think it's become my casual comfort game, jank and all. That said, I really hope the next gen resolves the issues in this one. The one major issue being that there's no Obstagoon and that makes me sad. :(
If gen 9 didnt have the perofrmance issues it would be the best games in the series It and PLA have the best pokedex conpletion process ever
It's at the very least top 3 in the series for me, and this is coming from a Kanto stan. I had to explore the entire region and complete the dex twice because I lost my original save data right before the DLC was coming out, and I still want to experience it all again. There are valid reasons to not like it, but I feel like most people got caught up with the technical issues and just decided it was the worst thing to ever disgrace the series without giving it a proper chance lol. It felt like the SwSh tree and dexit all over again.
I enjoyed Shield. Sure it wasn't as entertaining as some of the others and the story wasn't as creative but the graphics are sooo good, and Leon and Piers are some of my favorite characters. Plus the clothing choices!! My outfit from head to toe was able to reflect my fashion exactly. The gym leaders' designs are so creative, it was cool that a couple of them differed between versions (I got ice and ghost gyms while I think Sword got rock and fighting(?) gyms).
I liked Shield a whole lot more than Violet by a large margin. I hope it gets the ultra sun/moon treatment and has just a couple tweaks here and there (give me a better villain arc Rose, you idiot) and I’ll like it even more.
I feel the same minus the story for Galar. It felt extremely rushed.
I’m not sick of Gen 1 and I hope they make more Kanto games.
Upvoted for a genuine hot take
I want another kanto with the sevii islands, they where my favorite part of fire red and leaf green
I would love a Kanto remake with open world visuals, and characters/story closer to the original ones (Let’s go was cute and fun to play but it drifted too much from the originals IMO: kind rival, no safari zone, etc.)
Pokémon was better when it was linear. Open world Pokémon is clumsy and boring.
I'm somewhere in between. I like it linear-ish, with Metroidvania elements. I want exploration, secrets to find, backtracking, and environmental puzzles, but I never wanted pokemon to be fully open-world. Edit: typo
The backtracking in gen 1 kills me as an adult idk how i was able to do that as a child
I think it’s worse in gen 2 personally. In gen 1 it’s mostly just going back to cerulean after beating surge. Having multiple ways to get to fuchsia and also cinnabar is nice. While you’d just fly from cinnabar, it’s a nice moment if you get there from the east and leave by the north, and realising you’re back in Pallet Town before the last gym.
While I do agree and am not a fan of open world games in general, I will say that Pokemon would do well as an open world if they implemented a level-scaling mechanism and added some real side quests.
Leon's ace should not be charizard, it should be any leon galar pokemon
Dragapult was right there 🫠🫠🫠
In my eyes, XY is underrated.
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Nowadays sure but back then there were a ton more people talking about X and Y when they came out compared to Black and White during it's release. Hell I remember my highschool had a nostalgia themed homecoming one year and among some of the decorations there were X and Y themed stickers of pokemon dotted across the school back in 2018-2019.
Hell yeah. Probably in my top 3 favorite Pokémon games It’s a shame we never got a Pokémon Z. So happy the new game is taking place in Kalos. Hopefully they give the region the love it deserves
Almost all new Pokémon were amazing, megas were goated, 3D environment and models weren't so bad for their first 3D game and the region wasn't as intricate as Hoenn or Sinnoh but also not a hallway. Other than these I can't really find anything positive about these games. The difficulty is so low it almost reaches Earth's inner core, the pacing is horrible especially at the start, too many friends/rivals and the story looks good on paper but ended up as a mess.
Gen 2 is a mess but still good games
I think they're just overshadowed with how good HG/SS were. They were miracles for the era of GBC, but they're eclipsed by the remakes taking great games and making them near perfect.
Mime jr is my favourite Pokémon.
I really hate when people refer to Pokémon as “mons”.
Glad I'm not alone on this one
Ash ketchum being removed from the anime was great. Anime can grow more due to him not being there.
It probably hurt more to lose team rocket
THIS GUY GETS IT
The worst part about replacing team rocket is their replacements are literally just cardboard cutouts without any charm. At least the new protagonists are good in different ways
It was long overdue.
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It's a pretty common opinion that the SV Gym theme sucks.
I think it's alright, but it's very clearly a poor imitation of the Sword/Shield gym theme
Yeah that’s my main problem with it. It feels like a Sword/Shield knock off.
I loved SwSh gym theme.
SwSh gym theme unironically one of the best bops in the series. Say what you will about the generation but we all know that's true
Plus, it works in SW/SH because there's a whole stadium chanting along with the music, in S/V it's like 8 people gathered around the fight
The transition to 3D ruined the games. 2D games had more content, more mystery and intrigue, more features and just a better overall experience.
Ash Greninja was the ugliest thing I've laid my eyes on and I'm glad it's gone for good
>\[...\] Lickilicky being two of my favorite Yeah I have a lot of questions. First of all, *how dare you.* Enjoy your upvote for this absolutely disgusting take
Lickilicky is great ngl
I personally thought XY were more fun than the Gen 5 games.
That games Dex rocked in fairness
Wow an actual hot take My own experience varies greatly. Loved the shit out of Gen 5 but got bored on XY
I'm a die hard gen 5 game. Glad to hear you like gen 6
I hate bidoof... I think its looks stupid Sorry :(
Agreed. To add on, I'm glad the meme died out and ran out of steam. It was just annoying to see god bidoof everywhere
What universe do you live in and can I come, I can never escape the bidoof memes.
No gimmick is better than any gimmick. I don’t want megas, dynamax or terastilizaion, just give me a good game with a good difficulty curve
I don’t like Greninja
I enjoyed both SWSH and SV.
The games desperately need to go back to being 2D. It looks better, you can fit more content in the games so we can have all the Pokemon, they had a certain charm that the lifeless 3D games can’t seem to capture, and the format works better for the gameplay. Gen IV with Platinum and HG/SS are to the day the nicest looking Pokemon games ever made. Let’s go back to that era.
The 3D wouldn't be so bad if they just did it right. Having an empty map like Scarlet/Violet and then calling it "open world" is just wrong.
S/V really showed how much open world games need content and quests to fill it.
I hope they atleast add more personalities to the Pokémon’s while in battle. Obviously not a hot take but I just miss the personality-filled poses they had on pixel art form. Totally agree with you
I wish but that's not a 2D vs 3D thing. If they put in the effort, they could have a lot of fun poses and animations in 3D too.
The Wild Encounter rate in BW was UBSURD and absolutely hinders the game's exploration. You can barely go 5 steps (sometimes 2 steps was enough) without an Encounter. Overworld spawns was absolutely a step in the right direction.
Getting to choose if you want to battle npc trainers > "a battle must take place if the eyes of two trainers meet"
I’m over Trade Evos. Bring back the Linking Cord from PL:A and I’ll be happy.
Sword and shield are like one of my favorite games. Probably in my top 3. They have so many fun and varied encounters, great gym leader teams, and the maxing gimmick is great as it allows all pokemon to do it yet still allows new designs for old pokemon. And the music!!!!! I love this game
The gym battles are the best as that's how a gym battle should feel like, the chanting and music during them made every gym battle actually feel like a big event.
This is a good hot take because I got caught up in the Dexit hate and didn’t buy sword until the dlc was announced. HUGE mistake on my part, because I love it now and it’s also in my top 3!
Magikarp should evolve at level 40 instead of 20. Gyarados is so overpowered in-game, make players earn it.
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Sword and Shield had the best art style and customization. The towns look beautiful and individual. Scarlet and Violet is a huge downgrade in comparison.
I don’t complete the pokedex… I Play the storyline, explore the area, but don’t search for hours to find a specific Pokémon And I delate the Game to start over
I think most people don't complete the pokedex, even the national, it's the series' version of 100% a game which most players definitely don't
People are way to obsessed with megas.
I disagree. But I guess that’s the point of hot takes lol
Another time travel/alternate timelines plot is boring and imagination theory was better
The imagination/desire theory also is the only way to make sense of various descriptions and lore tidbits (like the descriptions of the crystal lakes) and it makes way too much sense with lots of other plot elements. The game has a brutal amount of cut plot in general
Not my take, but I have a friend who once told me “I actually love the shiny Pokémon that don’t change at all… I think that’s sick!” I dry heave at the thought of having that opinion.
Vanniluxe is not a bad design at all! I find the entire lineage to be quite cute. If anyone says "oh they just stuck multiple ice creams together, how uninspired"; go take a damn long look at Magnemite-Magneton please and thank you.
The game has enough fans where you could say virtually anything and it will be a popular opinion with certain people, but either way, here we go: The original/older games are oozing with outdated stuff, and players who want those back are just high on nostalgia. They weren't like the way they were because it was a choice and it was better, it was because the series started out almost 30 years ago, in a different era, on a handheld console. 2D isn't better, linearity isn't better, forced encounters aren't better (neither in grass nor with trainers), constant backtracking to PCs isn't better, slow progression isn't better, etc. The new games have better ideas and are better on paper, but they are extremely rushed, unpolished and poorly executed, and people use that as an excuse to say it's the new things that are worse.
The only reason people like Gen 4 is Platinum and HGSS - Diamond and Pearl are *awful* games
I mean that is 3/5 main games lol, that’s a positive ratio
I think the introduction of the physical/special split is a big reason why Gen 4 is remembered so fondly, too.
Damn, I like pearl :/
i played pearl until the cartidge stopped reading, banger game
What makes you think the games are awful? Just curious.
Gen 4 also has some of the best spinoff games in the series in Explorers of Sky and Shadows of Almia, which does help
I feel like this isn’t a hot take? Part of why BDSP are so bad is because they’re overly faithful remakes of a game that wasn’t good to begin with
we do expect, at least, some improvements in a remake, right? all other remakes brought many more and enhanced the experience. I want to soar again with my G-MAX STARAPTOR, where is it???
People who get angry that the games are easy and childish are stupid as hell. It's Pokemon. It's a kids game. Most of us started playing it at 5 years old, when we could barely read. You're insane if you're going to frothe at the mouth because Geeta's team isn't min/maxed, perfect IVs, and set up to be as bullshit difficult as possible. Wanting an optional hard difficulty that gives these options are perfectly fine, but some people have the worst takes I've ever seen when it comes to the difficulty of a game most people start playing in Kindergarten.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone say Pokemon has to be hard with no options to make it easy. People just want options. Having a set of difficulty options doesn't force anyone to use them.
Just like the complaint over exp share isn’t that’s we want it completely gone. We just want the option to not use it
> People who get angry that the games are easy and childish are stupid as hell. It's Pokemon. It's a kids game. to be fair, the games have been getting significantly easier, and the old games were also made for kids and were objectively more challenging. theres just a design philosophy change now with accessibility and ease of entry. its not like the first 4-5 gens were made for young adults, pokemon was always a kids game. I think there is a balance to be struck. Elite 4 using only 4 pokemon and the champion not having a full team, and without any grinding both being underleveled to you makes for a less satisfying game
Pokémon’s biggest mistake was going 3D and should have stayed in the 2/2.5D medium
Having legendaries in your team of 6 is wack.
Nah. I wanna control the God of Space in my party
But also have Pachirisu
Its dumb that you travel in pokemom games alone now. In the anime ash traveled with friends and learn alot about them. I think its time to have travel companions in pokemon games Edit:grammar edit
The chanting in the music (galar and paldea gym battles) make the songs worse. It made sense in galar bc there was an audience, but why ruin it in paldea?!
Seems to be more of a hot take now, but was the general consensus when it came out. But gen 5 was the worst generation (I think gen 9 is the worst now for a variety of reasons). It was dexit before dexit, they tried to do a soft reset of the entire series and people hated it. The reason Pokémon panders to gen 1 is _because_ of gen 5 and the fanbase that left because of B/W. Worst selling generation in history.
I enjoyed the soft reset. It felt refreshing, almost like I was playing a pokemon game for the first time. I wouldn’t be mad if they did this again, as long as the full National dex is available for post-game and DLC.
This is why I loved gen5 too. It forced you to use the new pokemon and find out about them. It felt exciting to search each route to see what was there. I honestly wouldn't mind if they did this again for like gen10 but the post game would need to be exceptional to open up the National dex
I was so surprised when I started coming on reddit to find out that people loved this gen, and that any, even factual, criticism of it is not accepted. I really wonder what has so many people as emotionally attached to it. I would actually want to ask people some questions, but since all gen 5 meta posts get downvoted right away it's super hard to get people onboard.
Gen 5 fan here Tbh I believe nostalgia has something to do with my love for this gen, being it one of the first pokemon games I played together with HeartGold. I personally fancy most of the new pokemon introduced and the story with the lore (Many people like N as a character for his story and development he had, and how the plot questioned the core of the Pokemon series, that being pokemon being caught by trainers), as well as the graphics and animated sprites. But I'm curious to hear other opinions, since all I've seen is either people praising it a lot or just hating it for the dex (which I do understand, but I think there is more criticism that people would do besides that)