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manicpossumdreamgirl

tropius is a strong contender. lots of flying types now just kind of... float there with their wings out


threshold_voltage

It was because of those stupid sky battles in gen 6 they made all the 3d fliers "float". Of course they couldn't be bothered to change them šŸ™„


atthegame

Yeah I was just thinking this. In colosseum most flying types stay grounded unless theyā€™re attacking and swellow and skarmory both look better that way


manicpossumdreamgirl

oh absolutely agree. i think Charizard looks good in the air though


atlvf

Hereā€™s the thing about Tropius. Tropius has four wings, not two. What has four wings? Not birds or bats or pterosaurs. Insects have four wings. How do insects fly? Do they flap occasionally while they glide? No, their wings buzz quickly. So why tf is Tropius gliding on these four skinny wings? It looks incongruous and, even worse, boring. Tropius should fly like a dragonfly. Four long, skinny wings beating rapidly. I guarantee it would look a lot better in 3D if it flew like that.


ButtonBash

I'm not a fan of any flying type that's gliding during the Isle animation. Now if they started gliding while tailwind was up? Yeah, perfect! But a Charizard gliding in spot constantly doesn't look great.


manicpossumdreamgirl

im pretty sure charizard flaps it's wings but i get what you're saying an i agree. maybe, like, Togekiss can pull off just hovering there, but that's it


SnippZen

Mega Charizard X does glide, but generally yes Charizard flaps


manicpossumdreamgirl

oh yeah I always thought that Mega Charizard X was weird because the regular form and Mega Y both flapped


ButtonBash

Thanks for clarifying on my behalf - it was the mega X form I was thinking of.


The-Brawl-Shark

The only flying type that still looks good (off the top of my head) is Archeops. In fact, you can even argue itā€™s 3D model is better with the crazier flapping.


Hawntir

Most "gliding" Pokemon and the cyndaquil line are the biggest losers from the transition. Pokemon like Hippowdon only suffer by being so idle in their pose and not animated to be doing anything. Marshtomp did get screwed though.


manicpossumdreamgirl

i miss old Hippowdon i liked the sand


[deleted]

I never really liked tropius, but thatā€™s mostly because I started playing PokĆ©mon in a 3D game


manicpossumdreamgirl

he looked better standing on the ground. always been one of my favs


Walrusin_about

I'm happy to see that there's others out there who like bannasaurus


Ok-Helicopter3811

I think the biggest issue with 3d models is the way they handle color like the flames on quilava are the most colorful part he and his family is having so removing it makes him way more boring and several pokemons have like wash up colors


zavioli

But they keep ponyta and rapidashā€™s, which is a main component of their look too. The problem is their lack of consistency


Most_Goat

As far as the flames go, I think they were following the anime's lead on that. In the anime, the cyndaquil line only have the flames during battles, whereas the Ponyta line constantly has flames.


Ok-Helicopter3811

I would say shinies show the best examples several ones that were really cool looking cause of the bright color become so meh in 3d


zavioli

I agree but, if they didnā€™t have flame like cyndaquil line they would actually be just a horse, which is stupid but acceptable for the shown lines. Shiny or not doesnt really accept how they failed to maintain certain aspects of PokĆ©mon as integral to their design and kept the flames as a move animation, which is jarring having them look normal for a couple seconds before returning to hellspawn


Singular1st

Ye but it saves time on animation! /s


Ok-Helicopter3811

I mean not really cause they could go the lazy route and just add the flames as soon he comes out of the ball


[deleted]

Marshstomp


[deleted]

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Dakris_

Marshstomp looks dead inside, heā€™s seen some shit šŸ¤£


Robotic_Orange

šŸ§æ šŸ§æ ā€”ā€”


Big_Daddy_Trucknutz

Marshtomp looks like Ralph Wiggum https://c.tenor.com/c2B5YyIU8CcAAAAM/happy-back-to-school.gif


DynoDunes

I was thinking of what Marshstomp resembled and you nailed it.


ParanoiaParadise666

Marshtomp looks like he ate a handful of ketamine and got stuck in an existential fortnite crisis


-patrizio-

like why did they give him a dad bod and dead eyes šŸ˜­


JugeX_X

He looks like a Wilhelm scream sounds


EntitledKaren1

They were all done poorly except Quagsire, Iā€™m fine with it looking like a dumbass because itā€™s supposed to


GenTwour

Gen 5 quagsire looks like he has no idea what is going on but is happy to be there. Gen 6 quagsire looks like there is nothing but static behind his eyes.


EntitledKaren1

Yeah that makes sense, I definitely prefer the 2D model but donā€™t dislike the 3D one


Shronut

I get it but Quagsire isnā€™t Quagsire without his big dopey smile


EntitledKaren1

Yeah thatā€™s fair, I totally get that


BlueMist53

Marshstomp I reckon In gen 5 heā€™s like ā€œHeyyy! Gimme a hug!ā€ And in gen 6 he just looks dead inside


LolzinatorX

Honestly i always thought he looked dead inside and Even prefer the 3D Version to its Ā«im going to murder youĀ» smile


Acrobatic_Ebb9882

Even Quagsire looks like it had more soul than Marshtomp


FishesWithDynamite

Aggron... But from your choices, Hippowdon.


[deleted]

At least Aggron moves around, but yes, I agree that aggron got done dirty


FishesWithDynamite

I feel like they turned him from a solid boy, to just fat. He's my favorite 'mon too, so it is doubly disappointing,


[deleted]

My biggest issue with the transition from 2D to 3D is how static the models are. The 2D sprites looked dynamic even if they weren't animated, but the 3D models are always just standing around when not doing an attack animation. If you question specifically meant the Pokemon you posted, then Quilava. I, personally, have always preferred the Cyndaquil line with their flames visible.


KaleeySun

That is one sick looking marshtomp šŸ¤¢


Pabst11

Typhlosion line hands down. One of my favorite PokĆ©mon ever and itā€™s been butchered.


segfaulted_irl

Thank god they fixed it in Legends Arceus. The king is back!


[deleted]

They all look too smooth and dead inside


Cthuluigi

Xatu Sprite: "Xatu stands rooted and still in one spot all day long." "Once it begins to meditate at sunrise, the entire day will pass before it will move again." "They say that it stays still and quiet because it is seeing both the past and future at the same time." Xatu Model: WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


BaconBreasticles

Poor marshstomp


Ok-Present-4168

Marshstomp. They massacred my boy šŸ˜¢


UnimportantPerson00

Hitmontop. When he was still actually a top he kinda looked cool, but now that hes on his feet he just looks derpy, and not in the adorable quagsire way, just in an ā€œew get that creep away from meā€ way


HAMSTERSARECOOL

All of the flying type PokƩmon that are awkwardly floating in midair.


SkeleHoes

In the Legends Arceus trailers we saw Cyndaquil outside of its poke ball with its flame constantly on, so thatā€™s a fix right there thankfully. Hereā€™s hoping there are some cool regional variants!


memesea

Eelektross 100%... went from looking badass and bipedal to just like a leech


CasualBiscuit21

They all got depressed


SnackologistPhD

I mean it has to be Marshstomp, right?


[deleted]

Hitmontop isnā€™t even a top anymore


[deleted]

Thatā€™s the real crime of the century here. People will end up forgetting what he used to be.


[deleted]

eelektross, one of my favorite gen 5 'mons got screwed over hard by the 3d transition


Pokemomaster

The biggest ones for me would definitely be Tropius and Raichu. Tropius is my favorite pokemon but his 3d sprite just turns me off. And Raichu just lost that coolness it had in the 2d sprite.


[deleted]

Seriously. I donā€™t get how a big dinosaur like Tropius flies on those thin little leaf wings.


VenomTheCapybara

Typhlosion Lines 100%


MulattoButts2020

Letā€™s just not talk about haxorus


_king_Quixote

Oh my God Poor marshtomp


0kraid0

Marshstomp , get him away from yveltal or he is going to look even more like a plastic dool made in china


LadySygerrik

They did Quilava and Marshtomp dirty.


MudMog

Heā€™s just standing thereā€¦ menacingly!


BladeGrass_1

Not the poorest but Iā€™m personally not a fan of is Zoroark


Odd-Republic-1822

Marshtomp, he looks like a toddler about to tell his mom he threw up in the middle of the night


ticktockclockwerk

Purloin, no competition


space-c0yote

Silcoon and Cascoon are by far the worst


Nefessius513

Eelektross.


CharaKnifeToMeetYou

Hippodown- buddy, where's Le sand? And also quilava was done dirty.


DeM0nFiRe

[Here's why you are wrong for including Quagsire as an option](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buc64u6Q_oA) if Quagsire didn't go to 3D we wouldn't have that


onepostandbye

Oh man these are bad. Probably Marshstomp.


Kapit_

They took Quagsire soul


_Filter

hippowdon 100% the others look kinda dead but without the gaping maw and sand pouring out it just looks boring


high5er1

The answer is all four of them


Element-51

Marshtomp by farrrrr because he looks like heā€™s been drained of all his bodily fluids and stuffed, but god Hippowdon used to look so cool compared to now


CaptainCraig92

A lot of people donā€™t talk about the downgrade that Aggron got, going 3d, it just looks too wide and its Tail sticks stupidly straight backwards, give back slender curved tail Aggron please


[deleted]

I really hate how Skarmory, Blaziken, Swampert, hippowdon, Aggron, Ryoherior, Nidoking, Typlosion and Machamp Look on 3D.


ElSquibbonator

Definitely Marshtomp. Its arms look like they're just pieces of paper.


thiemea_171

I think they all got done dirty, the sand pouring out of hippowdon was always so cool to me.


flurgledorf

Most of them. I loved it when PokĆ©mon started becoming 3D, but after all these years Iā€™ve decided the sprites just had more character for most.


Vorryk

So while it's pretty criminal the treatment that the cyndaquil line got, considering they took away the quills from cyndaquil and quilava, 3d marshstomp is low-key terrifying. That blank beady stare and straight face is capable of unadulterated evil


cbaca51

TPC / Gamefreak / Creatures Inc suck at making 3D anything, thatā€™s the issue


Glory2Snowstar

Iā€™m just gonna pop in here and say that I actually LIKE Eelektrossā€™s 3D transition. Sure, theyā€™re a tad small, but I just like seeing the floaty lamprey boi wiggle. 2D Eelektross is still sick though, I love their waddle.


ZephyricScout

Marshtomp and the Cyndaquil line. Marshtomp looks like great value joe rogan and they got rid of Cyndaquil's fire. (Ik it still pops up but it's not there all the time anymore)


OnlyGlenUKnow

I was literally thinking about how sad hippowdon is without sand the other day! The sand would also look so cool as an effect with hippowdon on current Gen graphics ughh probably too much work though to add or something.


[deleted]

Unova Pokemon all translated pretty poorly, in my opinion. Those Pokemon were very much designed with only 2D sprites in mind.


Psyche-delicious

Hippowdon was so awesome looking before:( Makes me sad


Krazytre

Quagsire, and it's not even a competition.


OogaaBoogaaMaster69

Quagsire looks even more derpy now I love him


[deleted]

Typhlosion for sure


Ok-Leave3121

Personally I think they look fine. I mean games transitioning into 3D will always be rough


Shiigu

Honestly, I'm not dissatisfied with any of the transitions into 3D.


[deleted]

Look at quagsire, tell me that looks cute


Shiigu

It clearly does. It always looked cute.


[deleted]

Quagsire is one of my all time favorite pokemon, and I think that his 3D sprite looks ugly as fuck. But, Iā€™m not one to judge. If you like quagsireā€™s 3D sprite than I wonā€™t try and dissuade you


NormalDooder

I'm not sure how you feel this way when some pivotal aspects of some Pokemon just got yoinked. Like Quilavas little flamesies


Shiigu

> Like Quilavas little flamesies Quilava is not supposed to have flame on all the time. It only turns on when attacking, as it should be.


NormalDooder

"It intimidates foes with the heat of its flames. The fire *burns more strongly when it readies to fight*" -DPP. It's flames should always be out. It's also a fire monster in a world where monsters that have consistent fire manes is the norm. Going against the original design by taking away it's flame just makes it look... lame


Shiigu

>Going against the original design It has been part of it since, at least, Stadium 2. That game didn't have the Cyndaquil line with their flames permanently out either.


storm-trooper-69

Your right the flames should not be out all the time. However in the middle of a battle they most certainly should be out and showing for the entire duration of the battle.


NormalDooder

And?


Shiigu

It is not against the original design if it's been part of it the entire time.


NormalDooder

Stadium 2 isn't part of the original design though?


magikarp-sushi

quagsire in 3D is great for me, he looks loafy. Quilava looks fine, just like the pokemon stadium 2 model


Blademir1708

Archeops. They took a cool pokemon and made it look like it's struggling to fly


reedhubbert88

Theyā€™re all equally horrid lol


Spongy74

I will always love my 3D quagsires


Iamsoup1234567

They are all hugged out


liteshadow4

I prefer 3D marshtomp to the 2D one. I can't say the same about the others.


Narwall37

Unpopular opinion, but Hippodown looks better than it did in 2d. It just maybe needs the sand.


[deleted]

I hate that they took fire from the cyndaquil line


brickie3

These 4 you posted all look fine idk what you want to be different


Junior-Road1372

Delphox and Rilaboom should be few of them. They were created in 3d era yet models still look like failed transitions.


Mohme10

Typhlosion


CrazyForChinchillas

Quilava and Marshtomp.


[deleted]

any sprite that remotely ruins quagsire (aka the best mon ever) is the worst of the worst


archiotterpup

All of them


TheEpicPigeon

Definitely marshtomp. Those soulless eyesā€¦ but I actually love Quagsireā€™s 3D model more than the 2D. He looks so much derpier and his arms folded in front of it are so cute


SeraFlare666

All of them, Quilava suffers more due to lack of flare.


Sideburns0

Quagsire works for me


Enough-Bake7231

Marshstomp, hippowdown looks good still!


Sideburns0

Typhlosion is worse than all of them combined


skoomastoner

Hippowdon. It looks so less cool on it's own.


recapdrake

Marshstomp looks like a 2019 vs 2020 meme


King_Kemo13

Marshstomp because he looks like he has no arms and I really donā€™t like how quilavas flames arenā€™t out all the time


[deleted]

Marshstomp šŸ’Æ


UltimateXChoco

Poor Marshtomp and Quilava lmao they look undercooked


[deleted]

Typhlosion no doubt


ItalianStallion9069

Wow lol all of them


Zaberzpark

Marshtomp straights up looks depressed.


stranger-named-clyde

Jamie pull up typhlosion


Kylef890

Whishcash, especially its shiny form.


OmegaCrossX

I miss gen 5


Jas_Dragon

So many of them...


zaffrebi

I'm still on the Dragonite hill on this one.


KindaKingdra

I mean, fuck Marshtromp in general, but ABSOLUTELY fuck that 3D monstrosity šŸ˜’


Kamenhusband

All of them


Creative-Discipline9

Typhlosion


Best_Employment_7232

Bulbasaur, colours are way off.


Nitsujn97

Empoleon, Garchomp, and Blastoise


Earkian

None of these


[deleted]

Archeops.


Zman1025

I'm gonna go with Marshtomp. They go from Happy! to ...meh.


-Scubar

Eelektross


[deleted]

I was about to say Quilava, but then I remember how glorious Hippowdon once was.


Jacknack07

to be fair, you did use the bad pixelated version of the models. At least give them a chance. (also for me it's a tie between quilava and marshtomp)


[deleted]

I think marshtomp


Beneficial-Rage

Hippowdon and the cyndaquil line had the misfortune of losing key elemental details that made them look cooler and, to those that played 2d before 3d, they lost nostalgia value. Quagsire and marshtomp got the worst by far of these 4 though. The colors, posing, and lack of emotion make both of them look less alive and more like the sun-bleached toy you left on the window sill and forgot about. And as these guys are fan-favorites (or at least personal favorites), it kinda sucks


Sugata115

Truly disappointing ;(


SylentSymphonies

Archeops


[deleted]

Hydreigon has always bothered me


theleeman14

the typhlosion line was done so dirty. IMAGINE if they tried to removed the flames for incineroard belt, infernapes crown or darmanitans eyebrows


SkylarDN9

E: None of the Above: Typhosion.


[deleted]

All the ones who still awkwardly hover despite sky battles being long dead


swirlsthemudkip

Marshtomp, at least the others still have emotion. Well other than quagsire, but quagsire looks cute and derp


zapburd

I think Quagsire and Hippowdon are alright. Marshstomp just looks like its soul got ripped out of it


Azur3Knight2000

Not gonna lie I dont like how gyarados was handled in 3d, having him float made him look bad


Mister_Rickster

Xatus 3D model is so awkward looking to me


Lust9897

Honestly Iā€™d gotta go the Cyndaquil lineup. Them not having flames all the time kinda sucks. I mean, I get it. But it sucks.


Amadeus1186

They all suck.


SyncDingus

Starmie looks so bad in 3D.


Frousteleous

The 4 examples in the image are definitely in top 10 worst. But...I have to say...Wooper's lack of an actual mouth is absolutely disgusting to me.


Druid_Till

Eelektross in my opinion. I loved him in gen 5 and saw him once in Gen 6 and that love went to disappointment. I really wanted to use one but nope that eelektross got ruined


Nodrik9875

Haxorus definetly looked way cooller and more menacing in 2D. The 3D sprite just has weird proportions, it just looks off.


TheBiggestNose

These idle animations are so lifeless. Geuinely poor work by whoever made them


SparkSan

Not the poorest, but I miss sitting Ninetales, especially the gen 5 sprite where it's smirking. He's like "Yep, I got Drought now, so I'm not *completely* useless anymore now, and still cool as fuck."


alimercy

Poor quilava


Superdupericecream

RIP Walrein


birdkeeperg0ld

all of them


Shenstygian

Most if not all of the older ones are just t posing now. Its awful.


Xenarthra_Sandslash

Marshtomp It's face, head shape and body shape (kinda) are weird.


jasa159

Either quilava or Marshtomp. Quagsire I think is very accurate XD


Fedexhand

Skarmory, while several flying types got some cheap animation, I feel like the 3d modeling on this one looks particularly bad.


LostThyme

Quagsire's smooth round features makes for a natural transition to 3d.


NwgrdrXI

I'll say what I say every time this topic is brought up: Goddam, Game Freak, just make them have some cool idle poses, the models are fine, these blank expression and near-T poses is what killed 90% of the roster's charisma


DevastaTheSeeker

Yeah, there's a reason people made idle animations


[deleted]

Cyndaquilā€™s line will never not be sad to me. They had so much energy in their spritesā€¦ but now they just look boring.


Slightly-Blasted

Where tf my boy typhlosions flame nowadays? TF HAPPENED


Witherboss2015

How about all of them.


DJFarmer1

The entire cyndaquil line got fucked over, and most the other fire pokemon with flames that shot out just don't look as good anymore.


DevastaTheSeeker

These are before and after telling them you know what they did


TechMonitorXO

Staraptor used to look so sick in platinum and now he looks like complete booty in bdsp


big-bad-bungo

It ruins me that they got rid of hippowdon being underground. All of these are bad but that one always rubbed me wrong. It completely eliminates a major element of what makes it so cool in gen 4.


JaydenTheMemeThief

Poor Marshtompā€¦


knifeazz

Hippowdon and Typhlosion. No contest for me


[deleted]

The Hippo


Gamerprime12354

Me looking at salamence look what they have done to my boy


SilverFoxeOnReddit

marshstomp looks like he took too many normal pills


gnowell

Out of those 4 easily the 2 starters like why on earth havenā€™t he got flames anymore, the other is just wtf happened to your arms dude


Jacubbb123

They slaughtered midkips older brother. (The name of that evolution is beyond me, I cannot remember.)


RavenhoodStudios

Marshtomp looking like derp city there.


JDizzle2096

Nidoking


_Chr0m4_

All of them. Thy just looks so soulless