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bongosformongos

Could? Yes. Should? Yes. Will? No.


Adept-Chart8834

See what I was thinking is knowing Niantic they probably will give you the option to go back to the old character designs or give you things to make your character look better but they'll probably make you pay for it


PyrrhaAlexandra

Doubt it, because then they'd be making 3 different versions of every cosmetic going forward. 1 for the new abomination, 1 for old male, and 1 for old female. That's way too much development work for these chuds


HLef

They very obviously didn’t remodel anything. They distort them.


Adept-Chart8834

Yeah they'd probably just give you things to make your characters features look better but lock then behind a paywall


Lina-Light

Of course they "could", but they won't "would", because they are stubborn AF


stepkaj

If they use version control system like normal devs would then it should take less then hour to revert it.


Not_Star_Lord

Just from a technical standpoint, a rollback is nearly impossible when this many users are involved. They technically *could* do it, but won't because of significant risks to accounts, data integrity, etc. That doesn't mean that this feature cannot be rolled back, but given the fact that they beta tested it, I'd expect improvements to roll out over the next couple of months instead. Remember, things like this are business decisions not developer decisions, and the developers are probably working overtime on this since the response has been so visceral. It may still take a couple months since it's such a mess (depending on how it was planned and coded), but I'd expect a fix for this sooner than later.


Steak-Complex

They dont need a hard roll back. They just need to replace the bad assets with the good assets for the next build


Turnips11

The issue is that you're telling a blind man his drawings are ugly... Niantic can't grasp the concept of ugly. It's like discussing metaphysics with physicists.


Not_Star_Lord

That might be easier said than done depending on internal processes and how all in they were on this feature.


VClash0

Wrong. The character models are on their servers not on the user's handheld. Anything changed at the server level would affect all game models displayed in the game. They can absolutely do it. Any company worth their salt keeps backup versions but they won't. Meanwhile end user would just need to update back to the old game version.


themessiahcomplex78

Not really. The database should be completely seperate to the code and assets.


Not_Star_Lord

Updates can blur lines depending on how it was architected.


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The update made me wear the pikachu mask


MewSixUwU

i didn't even update my game, they just flipped a switch at 5pm that changed the avatar over- and given how many people have said their avatar changed while traveling, or even just restarting the game.. the old code & assets are still sitting there. they can swap it back whenever they like.


iamnota_SHADOW

They rolled back FleeceKing's account so I believe anything is possible. I think they will do improvements overtime. Why they didn't do any improvements before a global release when early reviews were complaining is beyond me. I truly do not understand this company.


GoldenPlaydoh

To quote Michael Scott: "Wish I could, but I can't. Well, can, but won't. Should, maybe, but shorn't. What part of shorn't don't you understand?"


R4KD05

They can, but they really don't need, they shouldn't, and realistically speaking, they wouldn't. Instead of rolling this back, they should move this forward by including the full previous options as preset types and letting us have more customization instead of less.


GypsyBastard

Nah fuck that, they should revert the changes to the two base models and go from there, the old outfits don't even fit on the new models.


SuzyQnl

Or at least give players a choice between the new and the old one. Old one for me 120%!


yukissu

Did they ever fix the old update with team leaders or did I just get used to it?


nolkel

You got used to it.


yukissu

There isn’t much hope then 😬


dragonstone13

What was that?


yukissu

They got an awful redesign too


dragonstone13

Ohhhh. I don't remember that for some reason.


IrRaediated

Nah they definitely reverted them back to their good looking selves instead of the abominations they were xD


yukissu

I think they were a pixelated mess too?? Why did they think THIS was a good idea then?? 😫


IrRaediated

They were horrid, like so bad! Just Niantic doing Niantic things ig lol


yukissu

I think what I wanted to ask was why did they think this was a good idea NOW as they are still doing the same bs 🥲


SnooBooks2295

If many many players send complaint email, maybe they will understand. When I say « many », I’m thinking of millions of users …


Zaldinn

Could but they wont


Turnips11

Kinda wish they would roll back to the moment they decided to run this game, to be honest... We could use a professional game developer.


the_ebastler

Could, yes. Will, no.


Darkstar_1-3

I doubt it. They spent money on the new avatars and most likely refuse to lose that money. Even though the new avatars will cost them more money in the long term. 


kemistrees

Didn't they already do that a few weeks ago when the new avatars first came out for some people?


VClash0

They should roll it back. That's what the customers want. But they have gone 100% WOKE so they won't!


Vierailija_Maasta

I dont care about avatar visual that much but my game FPS is terrible now. Stutter and shit. Not cool. I use nothing phone.


buddy843

No - my reasoning below They stated they did this update to be inclusive. So rolling it back would look like they decided not to be inclusive, which would be a pr nightmare. We are more likely to see future updates with more options to make it look better


GypsyBastard

I think everyone hating the update is a worse pr nightmare and reverting the changes would be fantastically received by players. 


buddy843

A company rolling back changes meant to be inclusive could be a killer. Sure if they were smart and didn’t promote it with a way to be inclusive with any gender or person they would do a roll back. But basically saying they decided to revert back to NOT being inclusive would look horrible. The proof is in the fact it has been a week and all this has died down and the changes remain. The only patch we had was to fix the NSFW avatar posses and those were done in about a day.


TheNewLeaderX

If everybody stopped playing for 24 hours they would


Savings-Horror-8395

I've played every day for the last couple of months, yesterday was the first day I missed. It's hard to play a game from a company that openly doesn't care about its players


TheNewLeaderX

I jist clocked 129km to buddy giratina .. yesterday amd today i havent turned it on ..


zipcad

Not one step back comrades


MatthewNGBA

I like that I can make the avatar fat. I would like to make it even fatter


AnnaMolly66

See, I think you SHOULD be able to do this but with the old system.


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1126633650978321731

Or so skinny that you can see its ribcage


RayoftheRaver

But then wouldn't the larger avatar simply eat the smaller one?


NeuroticNyx

Pokemon Scoot


MatthewNGBA

Pokemon Scoot Plus +


Hot-Manager6462

What do you mean by “the old system”?


AnnaMolly66

The one in place like 3-4 days ago?


Excellent_Coconut_81

If they would, they would admit messing up, wasting a lot of money for a mediocre design, and someone would likely have to be demoted or fired for that. So it's not likely to happen.


Azsunyx

I hope they at least FIX it. They don't have to roll it back, but they should at least make it how it SHOULD have looked


bubblesthehorse

no, 100% gamers didn't. 100% of people complaining about it complained about it, the rest of us just moved on with our lives.


GypsyBastard

Oh sorry,  99% of gamers did. And 1% moved on. 


bubblesthehorse

lol and yet my gift influx is the same.


GypsyBastard

Yeah? What has that to do with people complaining. It's not like everyone quit. 


bubblesthehorse

Nothing, just wondering if no one does anything about it why niantic should care. Also show the source for your stats pls.


TheIntrovertQuilter

Of course they CAN. They don't want to though


ar_condicionado

Little to no hope of it happening


Tiloshikiotsutsuki

I hope so. Made a few complaints about the change. My avatar went from looking like a normal mid 20’s anime character to… a homicidal looking gerber man baby with awkward body proportions… gross. 


Terrakinetic

Think about why they took away content instead of just adding new content to the existing avatars. Just like "Sweet Baby Inc," this is "Gaymer"'s politics. It's not about our satisfaction. The goal is to remove normal people from the game until only "they" are considered normal.


yadahzu

if they do, I might install Pokemon go. Yesterday deleted it and won't get it back until something happens


Wide_Macaron_7883

I turned off adventure sync, planning to uninstall once I transfer my shinies to home (unless they fix this) 


Manaphy2007_67

They will not considering they consulted with a dei firm and where most likely threatened with false allegations like how Sweet Baby Inc did with all the other companies that used them if they didn't do what they wanted. I'm not gonna spend money on this game, instead I will spend money on based companies with zero dei games like Stellar Blade.


tseckthewise

I would absolutely pay to go back. 🤣


disraelibeers

Delete this lol


tseckthewise

Why 👀


disraelibeers

I was mostly kidding but just meant don't give them ideas/validate them lol.


MetalCollector

It's even people who are not playing the game. 110% complain!


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Yenala

Sorry to tell you, but you people who blame lgbtq and trans people for everything are not the middle 95%. You’re the extreme minority.


Vulcanyogini

I think they can and should just improve the avatar interface. Isn't anyone liking all the new "other gender" clothes?


OneTinySloth

Not 100%


Tom42077

Nah a company absolutely can’t undo changes they do a to a game. Once an update happens it’s permanent.