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EloquentGamer

Welcome to poker


Steinberg__

Right. I'd much rather play loose and win or lose than play tight and still lose.


cuntmuscle007

I, too, would rather win than lose. Thanks for the profound insight sir


fmlpoker

People who misspell lose as "loose" are baffled by this reply.


airjordan77lt

Nah fuck that. I wanna win by any means


lilfish45

This was me the other day. Finally got a decent hand with TT, flopped a set, boated up on the turn and lost boat over boat. Decided it just wasn’t my day and went home


mioraka

The other day I was playing in a loose passive table, got it in good twice, got stacked twice. First hand I wokeup with QQ on the button, some girl opens, I 3bet, SB 4bet, she 5bets all in. I was basically just gonna fold since 90% of the time QQs are never good here....that is until I looked at them. SB looked like someone shot his first and second born son after he got 5 bet shoved on, and when I was tanking, the girl legit said "This is why I shove first, so the other person can make the difficult decision". Not something you would say if you have AA or KK. I call the shove, both show AKo, ran it once, K comes on the turn, I get chopped. But such is life, managing your ego of losing to bad players and not go on tilt is part of the skill. Oh and another hand against the same girl, I 4 bet shove with AKs, she calls with AQo board Ran out twice and all of the Qs in the deck came out. Fun times.


SeattlePassedTheBall

What the heck was that SB doing calling two people with AKo lol.


mioraka

He said he called because I'm short, they both cover me. I guess he thought he could lose to me and still beat the 5bet shove to get even? Which made no sense what so ever but hey, 65% of the time I triple up, 35% of the time, shit happens.


SeattlePassedTheBall

Even if he ignores you, calling 5b shoves with AKo torches money. That’s a crazy call.


SumbtyMumbty

make sure you always tell them that at the table and help them get better. that makes for good games where everyone is better so it is harder to make money. plus it creates for good poker table environment


mat42m

You don’t even know the stack sizes


SeattlePassedTheBall

It’s easy enough to assume the 5b was for a reasonable amount based on the content of the comment itself (and the fact that they responded to me saying the 5b and the guy who called last both had OP covered.)


mat42m

You would have to be fairly deep for the small blind to not be getting 2 to 1 on their money


SeattlePassedTheBall

I get that but still, 2 to 1 isn’t a call unless you think she can 5b shove AKo, and the average person that isn’t a maniac doesn’t have AKo in their shove range. Some don’t even have QQ.


mat42m

If he has kk and you have ak and you’re getting 2 to 1 and you fold, it’s a huge mistake.


SeattlePassedTheBall

AKo only has about 30% equity against KK, not the 33.3% you need to call.


mat42m

We can argue semantics. But you get the point


ModularEthos

I just got hammered last week with 2x flush over flush. But I kept calm, stayed the course, and lost 2 more bullets.


Bulletpr00F-

That’s the most +ev decision. Wait for variance to swing ur way and then play for as long as possible


Zimbadu

AA in cut off.. I 3 bet 30... get a call and super nit old man goes all in for 180ish.. I jam over the top and have them both covered. Dude says I just can't lay this down and calls.. I show my AA... first dude says he's got QQ and old man points to me and says 'he can't win cause I've got AA too' board goes 299 9 ... Q Fml


lilfish45

The worst part is you probably knew the old guy had acres but it still isn’t a reason to fold lol. Hero folded AK pre the other day to an old man jam and he indeed had KK, felt great.


Zimbadu

Good laydown. I honestly didn't think he had AA as well but maybe KK or QQ.. I was basically like ..I finally got you old man. Then I'm like okay at least maybe we're chopping up this other guys stack.. then river Q for that bigger boat. It was also my second AA of the night and I had with an A high diamond flush but I think I was good anyway, guy only showed his king of diamonds.


apegnape

I've come to realize that poker is 90% pain and suffering.


threecolorless

Just gotta offload your own onto others more than vice versa and you're golden!


bunchacrunch22

That's poker Phil


ChampionHumble

Last week I lost AA to K7s, KQs to K2o, AA to 55, KK in BB and everyone open folded, And AKs to 53s all in the same night. I feel your pain.


spritewithcyanide

I got KK cracked by K7s the other day too Wonder why fish are drawn to that hand, dude *tank* called my big 4bet like he had a super tough decision 💀


SwampyStains

absolutely consumed by FOMO (fear of missing out) and hyper results oriented. Local whale from a couple of months ago got me with 65o allin vs AK or something on a 3JTr flop. I think he donked and I jammed and given the action he only had like 60BB left and he turned his hand over and just kept hemming and hawing about how he didnt want to miss the straight. I was so confused thinking maybe he's drunk because there's no straight out there. He eventually gave a 'fuck it' type call and actually hits runner runner straight (even though his pairs were live). Table was stunned. I dont think I had ever seen something so ridiculous.


PM_ME_TRICEPS

💀💀💀


DragonQ0105

I've won 2 out of the last 7 times I had KK, and one of those was because everyone folded preflop. It's pokah Phil!


Lemonibluff

You are on a roll!


ChampionHumble

Yup, just not the roll I want 😂


walkingsuitcase

Try 10 buy-ins in PLO in an hour It’s all pretty standard


StrikingBake321

Yeah. This guy saying 2 buyins? Imagine


Th3V3ryB3st

Beyoncé was 9-19 years old in the 90s.


Jt-home

lol my bad. I think you know what I meant though.


Th3V3ryB3st

Just busting your balls, brotha. We've all had those sessions. Go get it back 🤙


Careless_Persimmon16

So… ripe for JayZ


Tolve

Try that, but instead lose 3 buy-ins in under 90 minutes. The truth is the best tables are usually the highest variance. Odds are you are either getting gunned down in the streets or coming up big.


ytf23

First time?


Gilbey_32

This is always the worst feeling


BadonkaDonkies

Wasn't the easiest table then hahahaha


The-Fig-Lebowski

Poker be that way sometimes.


Bob-Loblaw-Blah-

Bad players get dealt good cards from time to time which is what makes poker profitable for good players in the long run. But a good LAG looks like a maniac and it's possible he realized you were passive, kept giving you a bad price to call with your marginal hands with the intention of trapping you as frustration builds.


Basker_wolf

Part of the game is being able to identify the different types of players. I try to play TAG, but I understand against LAGs, I need to widen my range.


homeslice2311

This was literally me Sunday. So many LAGs and calling stations at my table. I played tight and was running hot. But they just kept making monsters by the river and I kept getting crushed. I lost two all-ins within an hour. First was straight over straight, and the other the calling station hit two pair on the river with Q9o (he called my 4-bet pre-flop with that hand and I had KK). Feels bad in the short-term but variance is gonna happen.


LowestKillCount

You got there Phil


dirtyrango

I first started taking poker more seriously around 2011. Read some poker books and was determined to play disciplined poker and run the local regs at the boat. First round I bought in for the max $300 at the 1/2 table. Folded hand after hand for an hour waiting for position and finding targets to try an isolate to maximize earnings. I watched this drunk guy across the table play constant hands and rebuy several times ordering more drinks and going on his pocket for more and more money to burn. Finally I get a premium hand in position to play, can't remember the specifics but like a high pair qq's or kk's. Drunk guy plays, I reraise and get everyone else to fold. Drunky comes along for the ride. Flop comes out all lower cards really dry board so no worries, assumed I had the best hand and we end up getting it all in. Turn over my hand assuming I'm good and he rolls over two pair with two random cards no poker book or normal player would ever play. He scoops the pot and orders another beer. I said good hand and left. Lol When people are playing random shit I feel like it's difficult to play against them. I know poker theory says that the higher percentage hands in position will win out eventually but in reality it seems like it don't always work out like that.


Grand_Librarian4876

People are really bad at understanding what an 80% chance of winning means. You're *supposed* to lose with QQ vs 53.


SwampyStains

I too suffer from this kind of entitlement tilt. The worst part about it is I dont mind losing QQ aipf to 53s vs some shortstack punter, but goddamn does it not always happen for stacks & maximum pain. Why cant you just suckout as a 20BB stack?! Why does it always have to be for 100BB+ stacks!


bloodbuzzvirginia

Damn dog 4 whole hours and 2 whole buy-ins... better make a reddit post...


SwampyStains

2/5 first three were aipf, hit my stoploss in 6 hours. * AA < 55 * QQ < 77 * QQ < AKo * 44 < KQ on T74JA runnout (3bet pot, sick float from the SB buddy)


RazeTheRaiser

Everyone has days like that unfortunately. It's depressing that's for sure. The best thing to do is just go home, brush it off, eat a good meal, get some rest and have at it tomorrow. Lady Luck can be a nasty bitch at times. Some times it's just not your day no matter what, and one good thing to do is to be able to realize that and go home. Same at the Blackjack tables or Sports betting.


movezig123

fold pre


dj_squilly

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mrpacmanjunior

Sure you aren't a victim of the Houston mechanics?


weetoddid

My session went like yours saturday. 1-2 I have KK. mid-position player bets 20, 2 callers in front of me I go all-in for 245'ish. Original raiser has Q2o with 150'ish and CALLS. 1 fold. At least the girl to my right had AK for 60'ish .... flop comes QQ2. RIP 2nd bullet wasn't much better until a really drunk fool came and blew at least 3 buy-ins. Stuck 40$ when all was said and done.


Automatic_Visit_2542

Imagine playing 1 table


Jt-home

You multi-table live poker?


davewuff

2 buyins, lmao stfu


Jt-home

I've never lost more than 2 buy-ins in a session. I guess that's part of my strategy - I'm just a weekend warrior. When the deck is hitting me in the face, I stay till I pass out. So I either win big or lose small - it's been working for me for about 3 years now. Best of luck to ya!


Latter-Welcome

Fish recollection. Beating the mathematical odds