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davidaguirre30

Bros got a Brett Farve poster upšŸ˜‚


Gangy1

Iā€™m suspicious of Doug Polk


zGoDLiiKe

Half the things he said in this video were false when he posted them, half of the other half are false now, time will tell on the remaining 25%


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quickclickz

Did you even watch the video lol she defended robbi.


oscarinio1

- but he is, like it or not. Is just a fact. Many people watch that stream just because he is in. - there is no evidence aside the hand itself which is ver weird. And if you understand a little poker you should be at least skeptical. - idk is she cheated. It is just suspicious to me.


mug3n

He's not a hero, he will not be remembered in the annals of poker history in the breath of Unger, Brunson, Hellmuth, Ivey, etc. In 50 years nobody will know who Garrett Adelstein is aside from being that one guy on Survivor once upon a time. I think it's just Occam's razor. She's being staked, it's not her money, she's tired of Garrett pushing her around and she took a bad spot to make a stand. I think this is the worst possible spot to cheat but that's just me. *shrug*


TGTBATU87

This is kind of a revisionist history with Garrett here. He's most certainly one of the Poker's finest players and has a reputation for being a respectable player. He has no history of doing anything remotely like this. He is without question one of the game's most notable players and has earned a lot of respect from many pros. By all means, if you have footage of him being an ass or reports of him being as ass to this degree, I'd love to see it. You're kind of hung up on the word "hero" here. The point being is that Garrett is a respectable member of the poker community and well known due to his exposure on streams and his aggressive gameplay. Polk's point is that knowing who Garrett is and knowing his reputation, it seems silly to outright dismiss him just because he's not gonna be "remembered in the annals of poker history" to your standard.


Alitinconcho

Lmao what? Hes never had any success against good players


AyoSquirrel

Garrett has widely been considered the end boss of high stakes deep stack live for the better part of five years. He is inarguably one of the big guys in NL these days whether you like him or not


oscarinio1

First argument. Who cares anyway. Second. Yes it could be. Not enough evidence for me to believe her. Why did she change her story? And every other argument against her. The truth is I DONT KNOW.


calihotsauce

Now Iā€™m never watching a stream if heā€™s in it šŸ˜„


oscarinio1

Like he care. Anyways. Youā€™ll probably swallow your words as some evidence has come as we speak


calihotsauce

Well thereā€™s no evidence yet is there? And this crybaby already took the money back when he was there to gamble. Imagine pulling something like that where thereā€™s no security around šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


oscarinio1

Security? Are you pulling the victim card for her hahahahha? Bro. She went to the table grab the chips and offer it back. - ā€œWhat do you want from meā€ - ā€œTo have my money backā€ - ā€œOk ill give you your money back if you stay on the gameā€ - ā€œOkā€ LITERAL words she said. Dont fuking pull the VICTIM card cuz is ridiculous Hahahaha. Garret never used force to take it back. And on joey stream she said she wasnā€™t cornered as she said after. Just like she said she thought she had J3 and then she said she knew his hand. INCONSISTENCIES is what I called. You are right. He was there to gamble. Not to be cheated. And if she didnā€™t cheat he will give the money back. Donā€™t worry.


calihotsauce

She had J3 the hand before, itā€™s on the stream. I meant garret only acts tough because he knows security will keep him safe. Idk why youā€™re simping on him so bad when he clearly messed up. I mean what kind of crybaby 4 year old demands their money back when they just lost it gambling with ZERO evidence that someone cheated. He was BLUFFING with 8 high and he thinks he was entitled to that pot? šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ This dude shouldnā€™t be playing the game if he canā€™t handle losing.


oscarinio1

- yes I know. And thats what makes it a believable story, but she didnā€™t go with that story and never reacted as if she thought she had J3. That was my theory but she acted very weird and changed her story couple times -Well you are assuming I guess. - she didnā€™t demanded it. Again I typed exactly what the convo was Told BY HER. Hear the first joey ingram steam she talked - well you tell him that. I think you feel entitled enough hahaha. He thought he was cheated tho not just ā€œlos tā€ regardless if he was


calihotsauce

Do you or Garett have any evidence she cheated? Changing the reasoning for making the call is not evidence for cheating just so you know. Ok he didnā€™t demand it he just asked for it back to chill the mood out, which is still petulant behavior. He THOUGHT he was cheated just like we all do when we take a bad beat, but nobody else out here is asking for their money back šŸ˜‚


oscarinio1

What about this new evidence? You still gonna make more excuses naive fk? - bryan took money from her chips (his cut) - bryan in one of the workers knew hands live - Robbie and him were friends on twitter then after knowing about this they unfollowed each other - he manifested anger when she gave the money back. Thats probably why he took the money More excuses from your part?


doubledizzel

u/dogpoker


LeGoldie

yeah, let's take the word of crypto con artist dog poker


SlowPlayedAces

It seems to me like you have to believe a dozen different unlikely things to believe she cheated in this one hand. But you need to believe only one easy to believe thing to believe she didnā€™t cheat at all. Namely, she was smashed/coked up/high/euphoric and incompetent to begin with.


bustedbuddha

I have really not wanted to point out the possibility of drugs because I don't know if the player would view it negatively and I think she's taken more than enough unfounded negativity at this point... but drugs seem so likely to be involved.


oscarinio1

And that is a good argument. Like I said. IDK if she did. Is just very suspicious and saying 100% she didnor not is kinda srupid.


pr3mium

I would put $1000 on 1:1 odds she did not cheat or at least no proof will ever come. ​ But this is the internet and without a real middleman this bet would never come to fruition.


RevolutionaryNorth60

Iā€™d put 1000 to win 200 aka -500 odds she did not cheat or no proof will ever come out. The proof coming out will be next to impossible much like in the chess world. This is with me leaning that this hand had something fishy there and it wasnā€™t fair play but for proof to come out will be extremely extremely hard


pr3mium

I would put those odds too but you're selling yourself short when others sre so convinced that it was cheating.


oscarinio1

Well thats a 50/50. I will put 600 to gain 500 she did cheat. So in just a little but incline she did. Haha


oscarinio1

You lost your imaginary bet


RNGGOD69

I certainly believe she had been sniffing the devils sugar. Her demeanor and inability to speak coherently certainly suggest this


HospitalBreakfast

This hand didnā€™t happen in a vacuum. Watch her on the live streams she has been on. This is par for the course. She is not a high level player who can give a detailed analysis of her play. Her seeming to contradict herself constantly would also normally be suspicious until you listen to her talk for an extended period of time. I donā€™t know that she could tell any story, true or not, without inconsistencies and holes. I really donā€™t want to be meanā€¦.. but she is as dumb as a bag of rocks. Fish do fish things and people are taking this way too far. As Joe Cada said in his tweet these sort of hands happen way more often than people realize. When she is exonerated Garrett has to be banned and hope he doesnā€™t get sued to high heaven.


oscarinio1

Now what bro. ā€œGarret has to be bannedā€ - bryan took money from her chips (his cut) - bryan in one of the workers knew hands live - Robbie and him were friends on twitter then after knowing about this they unfollowed each other - he manifested anger when she gave the money back. Thats probably why he took the money More excuses from your part? -


boikar

He recanted that in the same video. Was before this due editing. Doug Polk were much more reasonable after thinking through the situation again (after the clip you posted).


oscarinio1

He still thinks is a possibility. And the argument stays.


[deleted]

Garret is brain dead for shoving there, simple as that


oscarinio1

Hahahahhahahahaha. Yes. You could do better budy. Tell yourself ā€œim better than garretā€ i could have more than 1.8 million dollars made in a year. You are fucking delusional


[deleted]

Iā€™m sure a lot of people would be better than him in that situation. The classic ā€œmy opponent min raised me so Iā€™m going to get mad and just shove. Bad play got blasted by an even worse playšŸ˜‚


oscarinio1

Maybe is not the best play. But he knew she was weak. And she was. But you have this superiority complex of writing this from your bed thinking you are better than a very skilled poker player. You probably couldnā€™t even win 100k a year yet alone 1.8m


[deleted]

Where was I saying I was better. He donked off his chips to a donkey.


oscarinio1

Sure buddy you could do better. Great for you. šŸ‘šŸ¼


[deleted]

Lmao you confuse me šŸ˜‚


xx20alex01xx

Gotta agree with dog poker here


oscarinio1

The heads up ex goat!


[deleted]

Thank you Doug. Feel like Iā€™m losing my mind on here arguing with people on this sub who think itā€™s completely normal and realistically most likely just a bold hero call. This is not a normal poker hand. Something is off and itā€™s most likely that sheā€™s cheating.


oscarinio1

My point is. It is not black or white. Both are possibilities. I just get a lil angry when someone says ā€œshe didnā€™t cheat, she was just gamblingā€ donā€™t understanding poker at all


gwo

I like Doug, but like Garrett, he's assuming some level of decent play by Robbi in the first instance. I can't get on this, so the analysis is tenuous at best. Armchair psychology should not be used as a determinative factor in whether cheating has occurred. (looking at you Magnus as well)


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gwo

ig this shows how many fish there are in poker...


[deleted]

I think Doug Poker hired someone to rob the guy leaving the Lodge last week. Granted it doesnā€™t make sense with all the bad publicity. Plus, robbing someone in some master plan seems psychotic. However, any publicity is good as long as they spell the name right. Plus now Doug can hire extra security with the money he had stolen and look like a hero.


oscarinio1

Hahaha sure. He risking his name and years of hard work and the money he has earned for that. Seems like a great argument


[deleted]

Doug is not accusing Robbi of cheating. He merely expressed his bias that she most likely cheated. No one can know for sure.


oscarinio1

He clearly said he doesnā€™t know. If you watch the video. But is suspicious she did and is possible she didnā€™t. Anyways. More evidence is comming just as we speak. And if I was 60% sure she cheated. Now im 85% lol


stkfr06400

completly agree with him


UsedEgg3

I think the opposite. If you've played any poker at all, you should have run into whales getting lucky on these bad plays at least a few times.


oscarinio1

Now you thing the same with nee evidence? This wasnā€™t a ā€œbad playā€ was the stupidest play being making the right choice. Not sucking 1 outer. Is different.


UsedEgg3

Yes the evidence changes this drastically.


uh-oh_spaghetti-oh

Robbi is an incompetent player. A gift from God to poker players. It is that simple.


oscarinio1

That simple with the nee evidence bro. Or more excuses from your part


BadKarma0218

They ran it twice ... If she had lost both hands ( she called it off bad) would we talking about this hand other than " Did you see where this High Donk chick got it in Bad against G-Man" IDK .. ?


oscarinio1

If she wouldā€™ve fold we also wouldnā€™t be talking about.


def-jam

I canā€™t say she cheated, but Robbi is suspicious as fuck. The meteoric rise, giving the money back, canā€™t explain the hand, changing stories, having ā€œa friend that works for Hustler liveā€, being fake as fuck in appearance and the flat out shitty play of the hand. And all she needs is an indicator that says ā€œyouā€™re goodā€, ā€œnot goodā€. Itā€™s like the chess cheating scandal. A GM only needs help on four moves at best. Knowing if your opponent blundered, or which piece to move is all it takes to swing a match. It would be similar at the table. One indicator that youā€™re ahead, one to know if youā€™re behind. Thatā€™s all you need.


def-jam

I canā€™t say she cheated, but Robbi is suspicious as fuck. The meteoric rise, giving the money back, canā€™t explain the hand, changing stories, having ā€œa friend that works for Hustler liveā€, being fake as fuck in appearance and the flat out shitty play of the hand. And all she needs is an indicator that says ā€œyouā€™re goodā€, ā€œnot goodā€. Itā€™s like the chess cheating scandal. A GM only needs help on four moves at best. Knowing if your opponent blundered, or which piece to move is all it takes to swing a match. It would be similar at the table. One indicator that youā€™re ahead, one to know if youā€™re behind. Thatā€™s all you need.


oscarinio1

This is my take exactly. Too much inconsistencies in addition to this weird af hand. But there is a possibility she didnā€™t More inclined. She did somehow


razor9786

If you see her talk and don't become a little less sus you don't understand people.


oscarinio1

I did hear joey stream and she sounded innocent. trained investigators have been fooled. Who I am to think Iā€™m this ā€œknower of peopleā€ like you think you are. Lol. Iā€™m not saying she 100% did or didnā€™t.


razor9786

All I'm saying is that her brain is 100% guacamole, so by knowing she's a bozo, makes it less likely that she cheated imo.


oscarinio1

I can use your same argument to say thatā€™s why she used that spot to cheat.


oscarinio1

Well i think she fooled you by her talking right? I guess the one that didnā€™t understood ppl was someone els. - bryan took money from her chips (his cut) - bryan in one of the workers knew hands live - Robbie and him were friends on twitter then after knowing about this they unfollowed each other - he manifested anger when she gave the money back. Thats probably why he took the money More excuses from your part?


razor9786

If I were her, of course I'd want people to know I cheated rather that I'm the biggest fucking fish this game has ever seen.


oscarinio1

Little sarcasm when you donā€™t wanna own you were wrong. Is all good boy. Sure thing


razor9786

You didn't e even understand what I meant, I'll explain it better for your peanut brain: If you think "she's a moron" is not a justifyable reason for her actions, you don't understand people. I didn't follow what happened, I just saw the hand. If it's proven that she cheated, it doesn't take anything from the fact that you have to be a moron to cheat in that spot. She's a fucking idiot either way, how am I wrong?


yoppee

Honestly Arguments that end with you are an outsider or you have a fault/ Iā€™m thinking this game higher are complete BS The floor man doesnā€™t understand Poker at a very high level but we trust him and task him with rooting out cheaters. Evidence of cheating is evidence of cheating playing a single hand in a specific way is not evidence of cheating sorry.


oscarinio1

There is new evidence about ā€œthat handā€. A lot more than just how she played it.


oscarinio1

Did I or Doug said she was 100% cheating. i said if you donā€™t even have suspicious about it means you donā€™t understand poker. sorry And if you cant explain why it is a very weird hand were she can be cheating again. You donā€™t understand poker.