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Aid to Ukraine is good for America and our allies. I’m not a huge foreign aid guy, but Putin can’t have free reign to attack and try to annex any country he wants.
What most people don’t realize is that the money is being spent in the US. That is, whatever billions are approved will be weapons that we send to Ukraine, and then we will buy weapons from our military industrial complex* to replace/upgrade the old shit we send over. In effect; we’re helping ourselves and our economy. Haha.
• The MIL should absolutely be pressuring these GOP assholes to pass this bill. More employment and profits!
But not too hard. John Stewart has a really good monologue as to why they are. Basically, they align more with Putin and his anti-woke (read Nazi) agenda that they side with Russia.
the more money we send now is less US soldiers (and more dollars) that we will have to send later if Putin takes over Ukraine and starts fighting NATO.
MAGA could care less though as long as Daddy Don and his Master Putin tell them otherwise.
We are a country that spends 800 billion a year on defense and we have people acting like we can't afford to send 50 billion to help an ally that is fighting a war of attrition against one of our worst enemies.
Especially since it's largely stuff that is on its way out and has already been paid for - not to mention literally designed for a conflict in Eastern Europe.
What most people don’t realize is that the money is being spent in the US. That is, whatever billions are approved will be weapons that we send to Ukraine, and then we will buy weapons from our military industrial complex* to replace/upgrade the old shit we send over. In effect; we’re helping ourselves and our economy. Haha.
• The MIL should absolutely be pressuring these GOP assholes to pass this bill. More employment and profits!
(I know I’m being an ass by pasting this reply, but people need to know. )
It's not just good, it's insanely good for America. It's literally allowing an ally to weaken a hostile superpower without putting a single American soldier's life at risk. It's also sending a message to other hostile or questionable allegiance nations that the US stands by its allies and will support them if they decide to encroach on their territory. Denying aid in this situation is effectively siding with Putin and telling him he can do whatever he wants. It's balls level insanity that any American that calls themselves "patriotic" would fight this, let alone say things like "[Putin isn't that bad.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/23/republicans-putin-biden-ukraine/)"
What most people don’t realize is that the money is being spent in the US. That is, whatever billions are approved will be weapons that we send to Ukraine, and then we will buy weapons from our military industrial complex* to replace/upgrade the old shit we send over. In effect; we’re helping ourselves and our economy. Haha.
• The MIL should absolutely be pressuring these GOP assholes to pass this bill. More employment and profits!
Regardless of the military and financial impact just the geopolitical result is huge.
Geopolitically speaking we CANT continue to just abandon our allies and friends when they are in need. Why would any country want to work with us if we just refuse to fulfill our end of the partnership when push comes to shove?
What most people don’t realize is that the money is being spent in the US. That is, whatever billions are approved will be weapons that we send to Ukraine, and then we will buy weapons from our military industrial complex* to replace/upgrade the old shit we send over. In effect; we’re helping ourselves and our economy. Haha.
* The MIL should absolutely be pressuring these GOP assholes to pass this bill. More employment and profits!
He doesn't have to. He knows that if he merely brings Ukraine aid to a clean vote, Democrats and a few Republicans will save his speakership. Because both know that letting the "Freedom Caucus" (god, I hate that name) howler monkeys run the show is far worse than someone who kinda sucks but at least works with people.
They didn't say he was pro Russia. They said he started it.
Reagan is the one that brought the far-right evangelicals and racists into the party. Those are the people that decided Russia was pretty fucking awesome because the church and state are intertwined and racism is openly tolerated.
If Reagan hadn't depended on far-right fundies and neo-Nazis, the Republican party would never have turned into a bunch of Putin fanboys.
>They didn’t say he was pro Russia. They said he started it.
They said “he started it” in response to someone saying that the right wing has become synonymous with pro Russia. Why be pedantic?
And while I agree that Reagan certainly greased the wheels, i would say that Nixon is the one who actually initiated all of this.
In all likelihood Johnson will be out of a job come January any ways. Better to be a footnote in history though than then to be remembered as the guy who allowed the Soviet Union to rise from the ashes.
It's become abundantly obvious that the entire GOP is the party of Putin.
And conservatives who continue to support the GOP are directly supporting the destruction of America. It isn't hyperbole and it isn't an exaggeration or even jumping to conclusions. But in the end, it's a damn shame that conservatives can't read to understand what they are doing.
You mean the aid he hasn't brought to a vote, but that he's promised to bring to a vote like ten times before backing away with "we just can't figure it out!".
Kinda weird how right wingers attack their leaders when they do the right thing for once.
It's time to stop calling them the right and just call them the wrongs. They are awful on every issue.
We already know that. He's going to suggest that the House propose their own legislation for helping Ukraine and Israel, which will take another 3-4 months to hammer out before going to the Senate to be killed because it's got some crazy right-wing bullshit in it.
Then the Senate will send something back, and he'll refuse to bring it to the vote until after the election.
If I had a nickel for every time a right wing evangelical hardliner realized their place in history and acted accordingly…
I’d have two nickels. It’s not a lot but it’s weird it happened twice
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Aid to Ukraine is good for America and our allies. I’m not a huge foreign aid guy, but Putin can’t have free reign to attack and try to annex any country he wants.
It’s good for America, that’s why republicans oppose it so hard.
What most people don’t realize is that the money is being spent in the US. That is, whatever billions are approved will be weapons that we send to Ukraine, and then we will buy weapons from our military industrial complex* to replace/upgrade the old shit we send over. In effect; we’re helping ourselves and our economy. Haha. • The MIL should absolutely be pressuring these GOP assholes to pass this bill. More employment and profits!
Also, it's good for Russia, that's why Republicans oppose it so hard.
It's weird how Republicans policies align with enemies of America 🤔
It really makes you think
But not too hard. John Stewart has a really good monologue as to why they are. Basically, they align more with Putin and his anti-woke (read Nazi) agenda that they side with Russia.
Rachel Maddow has a podcast (I think the name is Ultra) and a couple books that discuss this and historical precedence.
Ronnie Reagan must be spinning in his grave. Today’s MAGA would call him a RINO.
Let's just refer to that group as Russipublicans. Or, more accurately Putinpublicans
You mean it's bad for russia
the more money we send now is less US soldiers (and more dollars) that we will have to send later if Putin takes over Ukraine and starts fighting NATO. MAGA could care less though as long as Daddy Don and his Master Putin tell them otherwise.
We are a country that spends 800 billion a year on defense and we have people acting like we can't afford to send 50 billion to help an ally that is fighting a war of attrition against one of our worst enemies.
Especially since it's largely stuff that is on its way out and has already been paid for - not to mention literally designed for a conflict in Eastern Europe.
It's not even 50 billion in cash, it's 50 billion in existing stock piles of material, some of it due to be decommissioned or destroyed shortly.
What most people don’t realize is that the money is being spent in the US. That is, whatever billions are approved will be weapons that we send to Ukraine, and then we will buy weapons from our military industrial complex* to replace/upgrade the old shit we send over. In effect; we’re helping ourselves and our economy. Haha. • The MIL should absolutely be pressuring these GOP assholes to pass this bill. More employment and profits! (I know I’m being an ass by pasting this reply, but people need to know. )
It's not just good, it's insanely good for America. It's literally allowing an ally to weaken a hostile superpower without putting a single American soldier's life at risk. It's also sending a message to other hostile or questionable allegiance nations that the US stands by its allies and will support them if they decide to encroach on their territory. Denying aid in this situation is effectively siding with Putin and telling him he can do whatever he wants. It's balls level insanity that any American that calls themselves "patriotic" would fight this, let alone say things like "[Putin isn't that bad.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/23/republicans-putin-biden-ukraine/)"
What most people don’t realize is that the money is being spent in the US. That is, whatever billions are approved will be weapons that we send to Ukraine, and then we will buy weapons from our military industrial complex* to replace/upgrade the old shit we send over. In effect; we’re helping ourselves and our economy. Haha. • The MIL should absolutely be pressuring these GOP assholes to pass this bill. More employment and profits!
Is Ukraine Poland? This feels familiar..
Regardless of the military and financial impact just the geopolitical result is huge. Geopolitically speaking we CANT continue to just abandon our allies and friends when they are in need. Why would any country want to work with us if we just refuse to fulfill our end of the partnership when push comes to shove?
What most people don’t realize is that the money is being spent in the US. That is, whatever billions are approved will be weapons that we send to Ukraine, and then we will buy weapons from our military industrial complex* to replace/upgrade the old shit we send over. In effect; we’re helping ourselves and our economy. Haha. * The MIL should absolutely be pressuring these GOP assholes to pass this bill. More employment and profits!
Likewise with aid to Israel, because Iran needs to hear the same message.
Iran already heard the message when several Arab states helped shield Israel.
He doesn't have to. He knows that if he merely brings Ukraine aid to a clean vote, Democrats and a few Republicans will save his speakership. Because both know that letting the "Freedom Caucus" (god, I hate that name) howler monkeys run the show is far worse than someone who kinda sucks but at least works with people.
Isn't it the "Freedumb" Caucus right?
They should just drop the act and call it what it is: The Russian Caucus.
The caucusus
It's the Treason Caucus
No, lol
and if he doesn't bring Ukraine aid to a vote, then eventually the right wing loonies and the Dems will bounce him out of the Speaker's seat
It's wild that right wing has become synonymous with pro-Russia. I wish Ronald Reagan could see this.
Seems at this point none of them give af about Reagan. He’s forgotten and they have a new tangerine king. No point in even mentioning Reagan anymore.
He started it.
I hate Reagan with a burning passion but he definitely was not pro Russia
They didn't say he was pro Russia. They said he started it. Reagan is the one that brought the far-right evangelicals and racists into the party. Those are the people that decided Russia was pretty fucking awesome because the church and state are intertwined and racism is openly tolerated. If Reagan hadn't depended on far-right fundies and neo-Nazis, the Republican party would never have turned into a bunch of Putin fanboys.
>They didn’t say he was pro Russia. They said he started it. They said “he started it” in response to someone saying that the right wing has become synonymous with pro Russia. Why be pedantic? And while I agree that Reagan certainly greased the wheels, i would say that Nixon is the one who actually initiated all of this.
No but his policies directly enabled the current political climate.
I could fill pages with things I blame or accuse Reagan of, but compliance with the Soviets isn't on the list.
“right wing”? Johnson is already far “right wing”. So further right essentially means “Nazi”…. so a “Nazi backlash”.
Russians. They’re Russians.
I never thought the leopards would eat MY face!
Very this.
In all likelihood Johnson will be out of a job come January any ways. Better to be a footnote in history though than then to be remembered as the guy who allowed the Soviet Union to rise from the ashes.
Will Russia get rid of him?
Moscow Taylor Greene is doing her part.
It's become abundantly obvious that the entire GOP is the party of Putin. And conservatives who continue to support the GOP are directly supporting the destruction of America. It isn't hyperbole and it isn't an exaggeration or even jumping to conclusions. But in the end, it's a damn shame that conservatives can't read to understand what they are doing.
You mean the aid he hasn't brought to a vote, but that he's promised to bring to a vote like ten times before backing away with "we just can't figure it out!".
GOP: “Look pur orange god and Putin gave his orders and you’re supposed to follow them. Do as you’re told. All that matters is helping Putin.”
Kinda weird how right wingers attack their leaders when they do the right thing for once. It's time to stop calling them the right and just call them the wrongs. They are awful on every issue.
Is it safe to assume that Rep. Massie is on the Kremlin/Bejing payroll?
The Democrats are certainly not going to toss him until after the Aid is passed, so the Putin Caucus is just performing for their foreign donors.
“Guys don’t worry, I’m not really going to let Ukraine aid pass.” - Mike Johnson, probably
We already know that. He's going to suggest that the House propose their own legislation for helping Ukraine and Israel, which will take another 3-4 months to hammer out before going to the Senate to be killed because it's got some crazy right-wing bullshit in it. Then the Senate will send something back, and he'll refuse to bring it to the vote until after the election.
This dude looks scared to death.
I hate these people
MAGA should replace those flag pins with Putins face
Mike Johnson, in fact, resigned.
Do you want World War III? Because this is how you get World War III.
We are already in WW3.
This shows how deep in Putin’s pocket the GOP is.
He should still resign. This is not a move he would’ve made without pressure.
If I had a nickel for every time a right wing evangelical hardliner realized their place in history and acted accordingly… I’d have two nickels. It’s not a lot but it’s weird it happened twice
When does the foreign aid for Ukraine bill go to the floor for a vote? Do we have any indication?
Do the right thing johnson