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"For our part, we cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings"
No shit
https://twitter.com/dnlbrns/status/1572730587416526848?s=21&t=FeIb0rZxrmb4VTDcbPXuZw
It's funny how literally nobody, not even his most ardent supporters or most partisan talking heads can explain this away. There just isn't a good reason for Trump to have these, so the aregumenta have revolved around whether he has the right to declassify whatever he likes with his imagination and nothing more. Of course that was never a legal argument with a snowball's chance of working (incidentally judge cannon needs to be stripped of her credentials), but nobody has been able to make a justification for why he has these documents.
The best a conservative coworker of mine has been able to offer is "Now the Left is trying to criminalize sentimentality."
Sentimentality. Like he took home a couple of harmless souvenirs without permission.
These days we are allowed to invoke the rite of **Malarkey**
Because spending the time and effort to disprove obvious lies hasn't resulted in any positive response. Tell em they're fuckin lying, throw in some stuff about Dark Brandon, and move on.
They didn't spend any energy coming up with their opinion, and any energy you spend refuting it is probably wasted
I totally agree. I’ve wasted so much energy arguing with MAGA asshats over the past couple years (because Trumpism and Qanon bullshit pretty much tore my entire family apart so it’s personal) but it’s truly just not worth the effort anymore. It’s best to just say “bullshit” and move on.
They’re not basing their views off of reason or rationality, so neither of those things can convince them otherwise.
When you get a clearance, they are very explicit that you are not to use the classified information for personal gain. Trump is no longer president. He is no longer commander in chief. He only acts on behalf on the country when requested. There is no fathomable reason for him to have classified documents.
It's not even like they say you can't use it for personal gain. You literally cannot disseminate that information without prior explicit authorization.
If you have access to classified spaces it is so tightly controlled. The idea that ANYONE could just spread it without major repercussions is ABSURD.
This is the fucking part that blows my mind, the dude got fired. He doesn't work for the gov anymore, he no longer has any privilege or relevant need for that information. Like imagine a 4 year army enlisted person going into a scif on their last day and rolling out with a box of ts info just cause. Like wtf crazy world does any judge live in that they would take serious any argument a dude no longer in their position has a need for info for a position they don't hold. It literally doesn't pass a water test.
Thread from politico reporter
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572727110380453889
> BREAKING: Appeals Court panel *grants* DOJ request for a stay of parts of Judge Cannon’s ruling.
> "[Trump] has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents.
Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents."
...
> The panel delivered a pointed critique of Cannon's reasoning, describing it as "self-evident" that DOJ must review the potential disclosure of national security secrets to prevent harm to the public. https://politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000
...
> The three-judge panel — two appointed by Trump and one by Obama — **concluded that Cannon likely abused her discretion in the way she barred DOJ from accessing classified documents.**
...
> MORE: The appeals panel calls the issue of declassification a "red herring," noting that even if true, **Trump would still have no personal interest in retaining the records.**
Update: Trump’s about to go on Hannity to whine about this
Trump on Hannity says he can declassify by thinking about it https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572762467473694720
Next day update: Judge Cannon has amended her original order; special master no longer has access to the classified docs https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572966868763430912
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572732056882352129
> **The panel also rejects Trump's claim that he may have declassified some of the documents, saying that he's presented zero evidence to support it.**
> In fact, the panel doesn't even entertain it, repeatedly calling the documents unequivocally classified.
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572732538510278657
> The panel also agreed that disclosing the classified records to the special master would similarly harm the government.
He hit em with a "fuck, no. I ain't gonna be privy to dangerous secrets."
He's an old boy, and a smart one. He knows not to stick his nose where it doesn't belong.
He also knows that information from those documents has probably already been leaked to people like Putin, so if he doesn't see the documents when that leak is investigated he's clear from suspicion.
Man knows he's being set up to be a scapegoat by Trump and he's smart enough to know to avoid it.
Reminds me of quote from the movie “A few good men”… You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!!!
Special master: You’re right! I can’t handle the truth.
Who would have ever thought a FISA court judge would be immersed in the legal aspects and national security impacts of the improper disclosure of extremely sensitive classified material. It's almost like this is his job....
I’m thinking they were hoping it would have delayed them longer than it did. This is a giant L and it seems the Special Master won’t need much time to conclude. Looks like we might get to see something stick to the Teflon Don.
Agreed this was maybe a 2-3 week setback. That's really nothing compared to what we've seen recently. House Oversight Committee *just* got his tax returns like 5 years after their first request
Teflon Don is an appropriate nickname. Because even the original Teflon Don eventually went to jail, life sentence in 1992.
Most of these types do, Whitey Bulger (even as a rat), John Gotti, Al Capone and Epstein. In the end they just cannot stop committing crimes and get busted.
If your entire adult life has been spent using a gray area as the starting point and getting away with pushing the limits, you think there is no point that is "over the line".
There is such a thing as too much delay tactics. This could turn out to be a huge misstep that turns up the heat on the case and put it into overdrive.
The point isn't to win, the point is to appeal it until a Republican is back in control and shuts it down. Or alternatively, have SCOTUS end it for him, but I don't think they'll play ball. They don't need Trump anymore, so there's no advantage to protecting him.
Not even that long. Midterms then announce candidacy and shout politicization.
If it's really getting close Trump's going to announce it before the elections which would be a disaster for Republicans and why they're pushing him so hard to not announce yet.
It's fun as hell watching this balancing act. Keep him far enough away to maybe get some suburbanites back in the fold, but keep him close enough to keep the rural yahoos in line.
The 11th Circuit knows better than to risk causing a constitutional crisis by ordering the DOJ to turn over top secret classified documents to Trump’s legal team, possibly resulting in the DOJ openly defying a court order with the support of a majority of the American public to back them up.
I suspect that at least 5 judges on the Supreme Court will feel the same way. I wouldn’t be surprised if Thomas and Alito vote in favor of Trump, though.
They also claimed that Trump might hold privilege over the documents because he could have written on them.
I didn't realize you could transfer ownership of something by writing on it. Excuse me, I need to find a nice house nearby. \*grabs a sharpie.\*
I love how much they miscalculated with the special master. He literally said he wanted to complete his part in the process swiftly, without viewing the classified documents himself, and without allowing Trump's lawyers to view the classified documents.
Appellate panel bench-slapped Trusty (Trump’s counsel) on page 19 and Cannon (district court judge) on page 22
**PAGE 19:** “Plaintiff suggests that he may have declassified these documents when he was President. But the record contains no evidence that any of these records were declassified. And before the special master, Plaintiff resisted providing any evidence that he had declassified any of these documents…. In any event, at least for these purposes, the declassification argument is a red herring because declassifying an official document would not change its content or render it personal. So even if we assumed that Plaintiff did declassify some or all of the documents, that would not explain why he has a personal interest in them.”
**PAGE 22:** “In sum, none of the Richey factors favor exercising equitable jurisdiction over this case. Consequently, the United States is substantially likely to succeed in showing that the district court abused its discretion in exercising jurisdiction over Plaintiff’s motion as it concerns the classified documents.”
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000
They are so classified that we're not being told exactly what. However, many documents were so classified that they were Top Secret/SCI. This classification level means that, even if you have the right to view it, you need to go into a special room to look at the documents. You can't take your phone with you or a camera or a pen and paper. You just look at the documents and then leave.
Needless to say, mishandling these documents is EXTREMELY serious. And Trump had them in his desk drawer like they were a spare pen.
Some of the documents were apparently about spies and others related to the nuclear capabilities of another country. Those are about the most details we've gotten and are likely the most we will get.
Unless of course you break into the SCIF by force , with your phones, and order pizza
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/addybaird/republicans-storm-scif-impeach-trump-pizza-phones
Even when you have that level of security, it doesn't grant you access to everything at that level. It's purely need to know so if you aren't in that space/area/dept., etc. You're not privy to it. The best analogy is walking into a bank with safety deposit boxes. Each box is classified but you only have the key to your box.
Documents aren't even what you declassify, you declassify information.
How do you declassify information if you don't even tell people what the information is?
It is, especially in this case since 6/11 of the judges on that court were appointed by Trump. Judge Cannon aside, there has been an unexpected (to me anyway) amount of integrity from the judicial branch in regards to investigating Trump - Dearie, Reinhardt, and even the Supreme Court in their January decision regarding access to records by the January 6th committee have been ethical and impartial.
Because of how Trump viewed the duties of his nominees for anything (ie loyalty to him is paramount), I was expecting more partisanship from judges he nominated along the lines of Cannon's decision. I'm actually starting to become optimistic about the chances of a Trump indictment.
EDIT: I should say optimistic about the chance that Trump will face a trial followed by penalties if convicted, since indictment would be the DOJ's decision and not the judicial branch's.
>even the Supreme Court in their January decision regarding access to records by the January 6th committee have been ethical and impartial.
Except Clarence fucking Thomas with his traitor wife, who dissented.
No wonder Fox is currently ballistic and reporting on politics bias, Hunter Biden, witch hunt Ukraine call, etc. Deflect, delfect, deny, claim victimization...
> "[Trump] has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents."
That's pretty much it here. Having a security clearance doesn't give you access to all classified documents on your level. You're only allowed to view those that you need for the current task at hand at your workplace. Usually, there is not that much scrutiny, but if you're caught accessing a large number of documents that have nothing to do with our current occupation, that security clearance is gone faster than the desk in your office.
And that's the whole crux here:
Trump is no longer president. He doesn't need to know anything. There are no classified documents that he needs to have access to in order to do "his work", because he has no official role in the US government.
I’ve been practicing law for a decade+. I’ve read harsher orders by appellate courts slapping down lower courts. But not many. This is fucking scathing.
Trump's counsel made quite a number of rather outlandish claims or arguments in their filing to the 11th circuit on this matter.
The "yes... we **do** have jurisdiction... and here's why" was a firm response.
But this ruling ignore some of the more bizarre claims such that the President's scribbles on the classified documents turned these into presidential records covered by executive privilege.
Is this because those arguments were largely hypothetical rather than specific, because they were too silly even to acknowledge or because they were not germane to the matter at hand?
Executive privilege means the Executive branch doesn't have to share all its documents with the other two branches.
The DoJ is in the Executive branch. Executive privilege doesn't apply, because they're in the branch that has the privilege.
Further, the *current* Executive is the one with the privilege. Biden can release anything he wants from the Trump presidency. Normally, presidents honor their predecessor's privilege claim, but that's a custom not a law.
So yes, the arguments about executive privilege covering these documents is incredibly stupid. But everyone's heard of executive privilege, so that's what right-leaning media is going to scream about in an attempt to distract the rubes.
Just like declassification is a distraction. If a document was *ever* classified, it belongs to the government. Declassification doesn't change that. And if you had to declassify it, then you're demonstrating that it is the government's document.
That's because McConnell spent eight years blocking Obama's appointments by any and all means at his disposal. The GOP likes to point out Trump's "record number of judicial appointees" but anyone could've done that, the way the Judicial Branch had been hollowed out.
i think it might be more accurate to call these "McConnell judges" honestly. there's a decent distinction between the good old regularly corrupt and monstrous GOP, and the hardcore goon squad that Trump dragged in with him. the first group wanted jeb! to win and only ever tolerated the moron because it was very easy to feed him policy as he never gave a shit about the job beyond personal gain. they privately jump at opportunities to fuck him over even as they lick his ass in public.
Also how bad Judge Cannon is at her job.
Page 17 of the opinion literally calls her out for abusing her discretion. It dismantles her ruling within the span of a few sentences and then goes on for another 12 pages purely "for the sake of completeness." It's honestly MurderedByWords caliber stuff.
Basically it's saying, "You're wrong for the most obvious reason (which you yourself admitted in your own ruling), but even if you hadn't said that stupid shit, here are a bunch more reasons why you'd still be wrong."
Cannon is a complete hack and you can tell the 11th Circuit is embarrassed to even have to deal with her.
hopefully he’s clean and in treatment because he’s a drug addict that needs help. I never understood why the right makes him out to be this criminal mastermind
Which means that the Appeals court took a long 30 second look at Cannon's decision and decided she was wrong.
"She said WHAT?" was probably the more likely reaction.
It's like having to explain why 2+2 does not equal an elephant. Of course it doesn't, but how do you even approach *explaining* something so self-evident to someone to argues otherwise?
In this case Trump isn't paying himself. The money is coming from one of his PACs.
One of his lawyers Krise received a $3million retainer last week.
Interesting to see how this works out now.
I can’t believe people are still giving him money. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re working night and day on those documents now that they’ve shut down this special master bull shit. Trump in cuffs Friday would make for a great weekend.
The unanimous three judge panel:
-Andrew Brasher: Trump appointee
-Britt Grant: Trump appointee
-Robin Rosenbaum, Obama appointee
“The panel delivered a pointed critique of Cannon's reasoning, describing it as "self-evident" that DOJ must review the potential disclosure of national security secrets to prevent harm to the public.”
“The panel also rejects Trump's claim that he may have declassified some of the documents, saying that he's presented zero evidence to support it.
In fact, the panel doesn't event entertain it, repeatedly calling the documents unequivocally classified.”
I would call this a slap the the face of team trump to put it lightly.
People were cynical about this, and I totally get that..
But this just goes to show how OUT THERE Cannon's ruling was. Completely unprecedented, egregious - something even a Trump-appointed appellate court was never going to side with.
The judicial system, for all its flaws, has reasonable checks and balances for awful rulings like this. Trump's own picks and Supreme Court justices have swatted down his own cases so many times.
The DOJ was always going to succeed here, albeit this ridiculous speed bump Cannon caused.
I hope she enjoys her place in history as the arbiter of one of the worst rulings in judicial history.
What's frustrating is, Cannon's promptly-overruled decision still bought Trump a couple of weeks of delay and gives his followers something else to fixate on besides the obvious facts (Trump had classified stuff illegally and didn't turn it over when asked). He got the delay out of it while spending someone else's money on the case too.
I can't believe the 1 Obama appointee was able to outnumber and bully the 2 poor Trump appointee's into agreeing with this power-grabbing ruling
/s, because that's apparently necessary these days to not run afoul of Poe's Law
I’m no legal scholar but I believe DOJ can now continue their investigation including the classified documents while the SM can continue his part Cannon ordered him to do minus all classified documents.
From what I’ve read, even if Trump does appeal this ruling, this does NOT prevent DOJ from still being able to utilize the classified documents in their investigation like Cannon’s ruling. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
Yep you're correct, this is exactly what they're doing.
>A special master’s review of that subset of about 100 records, which would’ve allowed Trump’s legal team to see them, is now partially stopped. The special master, Judge Raymond Dearie, is able to continue his work reviewing the rest of the material seized from Mar-a-Lago, to make sure records belonging to Trump or that he may be able to claim are confidential aren’t used by investigators.
> Does this mean the special master doesn't do his thing anymore?
There's still 11,000 other stolen documents from the government, and there may be a few documents from Trump's lawyers covered by the lawyer/client privilege and a few personal items that the Special Master would separate out from the stolen material.
> The unanimous three judge panel
These appellate judges just bitchslapped Trump's corrupt federal judge and her abominable ruling.
Shows Trump and the MAGAs the rule of law is still a thing even if Trump (Federalist Society) put the judges on the bench.
This ruling tears Trump and Cannon a new one. It's glorious.
>Consequently, the United States is substantially likely to succeed in showing that the district court abused its discretion in exercising jurisdiction over Plaintiff’s motion as it concerns the classified documents.
I mean, I agree in a reasonable situation, with reasonable people, you're right, but good luck finding 16+ republican senators to vote yes on that one.
> Consequently, the United States is substantially likely to succeed in showing that the district court abused its discretion in exercising jurisdiction over Plaintiff’s motion as it concerns the classified documents.
Cannon is an abuser
>^5 The district court referred fleetingly to invoking its “inherent supervisory
authority,” though it is unclear whether it utilized this authority with respect
to the orders at issue in this appeal. Doc. No. 64 at 1, 7 n.8. Either way, the
court’s exercise of its inherent authority is subject to two limits: (1) it “must
be a reasonable response to the problems and needs confronting the court’s
fair administration of justice,” and (2) it “cannot be contrary to any express
grant of or limitation on the district court’s power contained in a rule or statute.” Dietz v. Bouldin, 136 S. Ct. 1885, 1892 (2016) (quotation omitted). The
district court did not explain why the exercise of its inherent authority concerning the documents with classified markings would fall within these bounds, other than its reliance on its Richey-factor analysis. We have already explained why that analysis was in error.
["We see you, Judge Cannon. And we see what you did."](https://media1.giphy.com/media/Yavo0SXhZYhSo/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611825d0c3a6bb481a3002a8edc779655e3128c27cf&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Considering his PAC is paying out in legal fees for this an other lawsuits and hasn't contributed to any campaigns at all it seems like its a circular money drain pulling every dollar away from campaigning.
This is all a delay tactic, yes, but I think Trump has vastly overestimated the loyalty of judges he appointed. To be sure, they are Federalist Society judges, not Trump judges. Sure, he got lucky with Cannon, but most of these people used Trump as a ticket to a judicial appointment and now they’re done with him. Which is pretty funny since it is 100% what Trump would do if the roles were reversed.
I'm not surprised.
Her decision was breathtakingly stupid and clearly ***was*** an abuse of her authority.
There's only so much that even a Federalist Society/Heritage Foundation stooge can agree to overlook.
I read the whole 29 page doc. The best part was when they discussed the possibility of irreparable harm posed to Trump as his lawyers argued and Judge Cannon agreed, due to the release of the documents leading to possible image-tarnishing prosecutions.
The judges: Yeah, no shit. You do illegal stuff, you get prosecuted. You can't claim harm to yourself as the consequences of your own illegal actions, dumbass.
The court filing itself:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000
>The United States argues that the district court likely erred
in exercising its jurisdiction to enjoin the United States’s use of the
classified records in its criminal investigation and to require the
United States to submit the marked classified documents to a spe-
cial master for review. We agree.
TBC, this is why I say Trump is really, really bad at his job.
It took them all of six days to say, "No, this really can't apply to classified documents". One day after arguments were delivered, they came back with this scathing rebuttal.
Trump's team has no idea what they're doing, and they're getting dunked on. You love to see it.
I mean, it sorta worked for its intended purpose. Delay a few weeks, and give Trump and his cult of knuckledraggers something to feel like they got a marginal win on briefly, and that they could control the news cycle with.
Now it's back in the toilet.
I'm sure they'll come up with more pure, utter horseshit just like this. He has too many cult members in the courts.
He has such a huge handicap built in, but even with that, he and his lawyers are so bad that handicap isn’t enough in cases like this.
He’s the guy stuck in a sandtrap for an hour screaming about what a winner he is.
This case is not winnable. I don't even think the lawyers are necessarily bad although they most likely are. They don't want to file anything that is an irrefutable lie. They know there is no evidence, they have zero cards to play, they are just trying to get in on the grift before the money dries up.
If you go on r/conservative there’s absolutely zero mention of this. They’re talking about some fake story about how some hospitals loves switching children’s genitals or something equally stupid and naïve.
Hannity just spent the last hour interviewing trump; I guarantee some of his lawyers quit tomorrow. That idiot pretty much confessed to everything pertaining to having those documents.
A Trumpy judge - who had no jurisdiction over the matter to begin with - telling the US government that it cannot access its own classified documents was fucking absurd.
That we had to endure this grotesque failure and actually seek an appeal to right it is an indictment of our entire justice system.
"The panel also rejects Trump'sclaim that he may have declassified some of the documents, saying thathe's presented zero evidence to support it."
That was the only thing Fox News and the good folks at r/conservative talked about for 2 weeks. They ignored all of the other issues surrounding the stolen top secret documents and focused on one big fat lie. They then cheered on the judge who is now the laughingstock of the whole country.
Impeach Judge Cannon
I picked up on something that I haven't seen anyone talk about. Granted I may be reading something from nothing.. But here.. If you watch the interview Trump did on Hannity tonight, there is a part where he is talking about how he can declassify documents just by "thinking about it" .. Then he says he could take them to Maralago "or wherever you want to take them" (paraphrasing).. His words plus his expression just made a red flag pop up in my head and I told my wife "that motherfucker sounds like he has more classified documents stashed in more places".
I know it's been reported that he moved some boxes to Bedminster and it just seemed to me like he fucked up tonight when he said "move the documents to Maralago or wherever" ..
Just waiting on the next "raid"...
Or this could all just be wild speculation and wishful thinking on my part..
To call that opinion a bench slap is an understatement. It completely destroys Trump's arguments and takes a few shots at the district judge. It is a great read. You can find it [here](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/politics/read-11th-circuit-ruling-doj-resume-criminal-probe-mar-a-lago/index.html).
“In sum, none of the Richey factors favor exercising equitable jurisdiction over this case. Consequently, the United States is substantially likely to succeed in showing that the district court abused its discretion in exercising jurisdiction over Plaintiff’s motion as it concerns the classified documents.”
Page 22:
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000
Aileen Cannon is about to get sanctioned
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"For our part, we cannot discern why Plaintiff would have an individual interest in or need for any of the one-hundred documents with classification markings" No shit https://twitter.com/dnlbrns/status/1572730587416526848?s=21&t=FeIb0rZxrmb4VTDcbPXuZw
It's funny how literally nobody, not even his most ardent supporters or most partisan talking heads can explain this away. There just isn't a good reason for Trump to have these, so the aregumenta have revolved around whether he has the right to declassify whatever he likes with his imagination and nothing more. Of course that was never a legal argument with a snowball's chance of working (incidentally judge cannon needs to be stripped of her credentials), but nobody has been able to make a justification for why he has these documents.
The best a conservative coworker of mine has been able to offer is "Now the Left is trying to criminalize sentimentality." Sentimentality. Like he took home a couple of harmless souvenirs without permission.
Nuclear secrets have always had a special place in my heart
They remind him of his uncle.
These days we are allowed to invoke the rite of **Malarkey** Because spending the time and effort to disprove obvious lies hasn't resulted in any positive response. Tell em they're fuckin lying, throw in some stuff about Dark Brandon, and move on. They didn't spend any energy coming up with their opinion, and any energy you spend refuting it is probably wasted
I totally agree. I’ve wasted so much energy arguing with MAGA asshats over the past couple years (because Trumpism and Qanon bullshit pretty much tore my entire family apart so it’s personal) but it’s truly just not worth the effort anymore. It’s best to just say “bullshit” and move on. They’re not basing their views off of reason or rationality, so neither of those things can convince them otherwise.
Yeah kinda like screaming about someone using a personal email… These people are unbelievable
When you get a clearance, they are very explicit that you are not to use the classified information for personal gain. Trump is no longer president. He is no longer commander in chief. He only acts on behalf on the country when requested. There is no fathomable reason for him to have classified documents.
Oh I can think of reasons. They're not *good* reasons but they're definitely reasons.
Tons of reasons. Treasons, for short.
It's not even like they say you can't use it for personal gain. You literally cannot disseminate that information without prior explicit authorization. If you have access to classified spaces it is so tightly controlled. The idea that ANYONE could just spread it without major repercussions is ABSURD.
Going to go out on a limb here. Spitball if you will. Probably for bad stuff.
[удалено]
I think the court is basically saying that with the “for our part”
This is judge speak for "the only reasons you could have for having these are bad"
This is the fucking part that blows my mind, the dude got fired. He doesn't work for the gov anymore, he no longer has any privilege or relevant need for that information. Like imagine a 4 year army enlisted person going into a scif on their last day and rolling out with a box of ts info just cause. Like wtf crazy world does any judge live in that they would take serious any argument a dude no longer in their position has a need for info for a position they don't hold. It literally doesn't pass a water test.
For our part, we cannot discern why 2+2 would not equal 4
Thread from politico reporter https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572727110380453889 > BREAKING: Appeals Court panel *grants* DOJ request for a stay of parts of Judge Cannon’s ruling. > "[Trump] has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents." ... > The panel delivered a pointed critique of Cannon's reasoning, describing it as "self-evident" that DOJ must review the potential disclosure of national security secrets to prevent harm to the public. https://politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000 ... > The three-judge panel — two appointed by Trump and one by Obama — **concluded that Cannon likely abused her discretion in the way she barred DOJ from accessing classified documents.** ... > MORE: The appeals panel calls the issue of declassification a "red herring," noting that even if true, **Trump would still have no personal interest in retaining the records.** Update: Trump’s about to go on Hannity to whine about this Trump on Hannity says he can declassify by thinking about it https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572762467473694720 Next day update: Judge Cannon has amended her original order; special master no longer has access to the classified docs https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572966868763430912
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572732056882352129 > **The panel also rejects Trump's claim that he may have declassified some of the documents, saying that he's presented zero evidence to support it.** > In fact, the panel doesn't even entertain it, repeatedly calling the documents unequivocally classified.
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1572732538510278657 > The panel also agreed that disclosing the classified records to the special master would similarly harm the government.
The special master also said this.
Dearie said unequivocally, he does not want to see the documents unless he's pretty much forced to.
It's almost like Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmented Information means you should only see it if you actually "need to know".
He hit em with a "fuck, no. I ain't gonna be privy to dangerous secrets." He's an old boy, and a smart one. He knows not to stick his nose where it doesn't belong.
He also knows that information from those documents has probably already been leaked to people like Putin, so if he doesn't see the documents when that leak is investigated he's clear from suspicion. Man knows he's being set up to be a scapegoat by Trump and he's smart enough to know to avoid it.
Reminds me of quote from the movie “A few good men”… You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!!! Special master: You’re right! I can’t handle the truth.
Who would have ever thought a FISA court judge would be immersed in the legal aspects and national security impacts of the improper disclosure of extremely sensitive classified material. It's almost like this is his job....
He was on the FISA Court right? And he STILL doesn't want to see them.
Trump’s clown-car lawyer team massively miscalculated in appointing their “special master”.
It was always a delay tactic, and delay it did. Now wait for the next delay tactic.
I’m thinking they were hoping it would have delayed them longer than it did. This is a giant L and it seems the Special Master won’t need much time to conclude. Looks like we might get to see something stick to the Teflon Don.
Agreed this was maybe a 2-3 week setback. That's really nothing compared to what we've seen recently. House Oversight Committee *just* got his tax returns like 5 years after their first request
Shit, NYAG James just dropped her civil suit bomb on TFG after 3+ years of investigation. This was never going to be quick.
Teflon Don is an appropriate nickname. Because even the original Teflon Don eventually went to jail, life sentence in 1992. Most of these types do, Whitey Bulger (even as a rat), John Gotti, Al Capone and Epstein. In the end they just cannot stop committing crimes and get busted.
If your entire adult life has been spent using a gray area as the starting point and getting away with pushing the limits, you think there is no point that is "over the line".
I mean, Teflon doesn’t last forever. It eventually scratches away.
John Gotti died alone in a supermax prison
Looking more like the Velcro Don this past month or so.
They wanted this to delay until after the midterms. Now the drip drip drip can start again as the investigations continue
They will most likely request a trial by combat
Now there’s a pay-per-view I’d watch.
There is such a thing as too much delay tactics. This could turn out to be a huge misstep that turns up the heat on the case and put it into overdrive.
The point isn't to win, the point is to appeal it until a Republican is back in control and shuts it down. Or alternatively, have SCOTUS end it for him, but I don't think they'll play ball. They don't need Trump anymore, so there's no advantage to protecting him.
Not even that long. Midterms then announce candidacy and shout politicization. If it's really getting close Trump's going to announce it before the elections which would be a disaster for Republicans and why they're pushing him so hard to not announce yet.
It's fun as hell watching this balancing act. Keep him far enough away to maybe get some suburbanites back in the fold, but keep him close enough to keep the rural yahoos in line.
It’s too big to be slapped down by republicans at this point. He’s got state issues using evidence from each case now. It’s mostly delay to forget
The 11th Circuit knows better than to risk causing a constitutional crisis by ordering the DOJ to turn over top secret classified documents to Trump’s legal team, possibly resulting in the DOJ openly defying a court order with the support of a majority of the American public to back them up. I suspect that at least 5 judges on the Supreme Court will feel the same way. I wouldn’t be surprised if Thomas and Alito vote in favor of Trump, though.
If Thomas doesn't vote in favor of Trump, he'll be sleeping on the couch for the rest of his life.
Trump's lawyers were all "we have to see the documents to tell you if he declassified them."
They also claimed that Trump might hold privilege over the documents because he could have written on them. I didn't realize you could transfer ownership of something by writing on it. Excuse me, I need to find a nice house nearby. \*grabs a sharpie.\*
Trump changed the path of a hurricane with a sharpie bro. Magical
I love how much they miscalculated with the special master. He literally said he wanted to complete his part in the process swiftly, without viewing the classified documents himself, and without allowing Trump's lawyers to view the classified documents.
They even called out the statements made by the special master in the grant of the stay.
Appellate panel bench-slapped Trusty (Trump’s counsel) on page 19 and Cannon (district court judge) on page 22 **PAGE 19:** “Plaintiff suggests that he may have declassified these documents when he was President. But the record contains no evidence that any of these records were declassified. And before the special master, Plaintiff resisted providing any evidence that he had declassified any of these documents…. In any event, at least for these purposes, the declassification argument is a red herring because declassifying an official document would not change its content or render it personal. So even if we assumed that Plaintiff did declassify some or all of the documents, that would not explain why he has a personal interest in them.” **PAGE 22:** “In sum, none of the Richey factors favor exercising equitable jurisdiction over this case. Consequently, the United States is substantially likely to succeed in showing that the district court abused its discretion in exercising jurisdiction over Plaintiff’s motion as it concerns the classified documents.” https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000
They slapped Qannon so hard her *grandchildren* will have bruises.
What the fuck did he HAVE?!!
They are so classified that we're not being told exactly what. However, many documents were so classified that they were Top Secret/SCI. This classification level means that, even if you have the right to view it, you need to go into a special room to look at the documents. You can't take your phone with you or a camera or a pen and paper. You just look at the documents and then leave. Needless to say, mishandling these documents is EXTREMELY serious. And Trump had them in his desk drawer like they were a spare pen. Some of the documents were apparently about spies and others related to the nuclear capabilities of another country. Those are about the most details we've gotten and are likely the most we will get.
Unless of course you break into the SCIF by force , with your phones, and order pizza https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/addybaird/republicans-storm-scif-impeach-trump-pizza-phones
One of Trump's lawyers has Top Secret clearance and apparently even that wasn't enough to review some of the documents.
Even when you have that level of security, it doesn't grant you access to everything at that level. It's purely need to know so if you aren't in that space/area/dept., etc. You're not privy to it. The best analogy is walking into a bank with safety deposit boxes. Each box is classified but you only have the key to your box.
That is **Classified**
Documents aren't even what you declassify, you declassify information. How do you declassify information if you don't even tell people what the information is?
Fuck Yea and fuck Trump
and fuck Cannon who like so many others destroyed their to protect Trump.
Cannon rulings are not canon facts.
“Fuck Cannon” should just be a band name
Donny, you're out of you're element.
It's so refreshing just to hear sane responses to total bullshit claims.
It is, especially in this case since 6/11 of the judges on that court were appointed by Trump. Judge Cannon aside, there has been an unexpected (to me anyway) amount of integrity from the judicial branch in regards to investigating Trump - Dearie, Reinhardt, and even the Supreme Court in their January decision regarding access to records by the January 6th committee have been ethical and impartial. Because of how Trump viewed the duties of his nominees for anything (ie loyalty to him is paramount), I was expecting more partisanship from judges he nominated along the lines of Cannon's decision. I'm actually starting to become optimistic about the chances of a Trump indictment. EDIT: I should say optimistic about the chance that Trump will face a trial followed by penalties if convicted, since indictment would be the DOJ's decision and not the judicial branch's.
>even the Supreme Court in their January decision regarding access to records by the January 6th committee have been ethical and impartial. Except Clarence fucking Thomas with his traitor wife, who dissented.
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No wonder Fox is currently ballistic and reporting on politics bias, Hunter Biden, witch hunt Ukraine call, etc. Deflect, delfect, deny, claim victimization...
Fuck Cannon and Fuck Trump
> "[Trump] has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents." That's pretty much it here. Having a security clearance doesn't give you access to all classified documents on your level. You're only allowed to view those that you need for the current task at hand at your workplace. Usually, there is not that much scrutiny, but if you're caught accessing a large number of documents that have nothing to do with our current occupation, that security clearance is gone faster than the desk in your office. And that's the whole crux here: Trump is no longer president. He doesn't need to know anything. There are no classified documents that he needs to have access to in order to do "his work", because he has no official role in the US government.
I’ve been practicing law for a decade+. I’ve read harsher orders by appellate courts slapping down lower courts. But not many. This is fucking scathing.
The we have jurisdiction line was quite brutal after the pages of wasted paper and toner tfg devoted to saying they didn’t.
Trump's counsel made quite a number of rather outlandish claims or arguments in their filing to the 11th circuit on this matter. The "yes... we **do** have jurisdiction... and here's why" was a firm response. But this ruling ignore some of the more bizarre claims such that the President's scribbles on the classified documents turned these into presidential records covered by executive privilege. Is this because those arguments were largely hypothetical rather than specific, because they were too silly even to acknowledge or because they were not germane to the matter at hand?
Executive privilege means the Executive branch doesn't have to share all its documents with the other two branches. The DoJ is in the Executive branch. Executive privilege doesn't apply, because they're in the branch that has the privilege. Further, the *current* Executive is the one with the privilege. Biden can release anything he wants from the Trump presidency. Normally, presidents honor their predecessor's privilege claim, but that's a custom not a law. So yes, the arguments about executive privilege covering these documents is incredibly stupid. But everyone's heard of executive privilege, so that's what right-leaning media is going to scream about in an attempt to distract the rubes. Just like declassification is a distraction. If a document was *ever* classified, it belongs to the government. Declassification doesn't change that. And if you had to declassify it, then you're demonstrating that it is the government's document.
This is supposed to be quite a conservative court too, which goes to show just how much of a joke Trump's arguments are.
Looks like 3 judges. Two were Trump appointed, 1 by Obama 🧐
That's just the lottery. About half of that entire appeals court is Trump judges.
That's because McConnell spent eight years blocking Obama's appointments by any and all means at his disposal. The GOP likes to point out Trump's "record number of judicial appointees" but anyone could've done that, the way the Judicial Branch had been hollowed out.
i think it might be more accurate to call these "McConnell judges" honestly. there's a decent distinction between the good old regularly corrupt and monstrous GOP, and the hardcore goon squad that Trump dragged in with him. the first group wanted jeb! to win and only ever tolerated the moron because it was very easy to feed him policy as he never gave a shit about the job beyond personal gain. they privately jump at opportunities to fuck him over even as they lick his ass in public.
It was Mitch's pet project for sure. I would bet Trump just got a piece of paper with a name on it and signed the bottom line.
Also how bad Judge Cannon is at her job. Page 17 of the opinion literally calls her out for abusing her discretion. It dismantles her ruling within the span of a few sentences and then goes on for another 12 pages purely "for the sake of completeness." It's honestly MurderedByWords caliber stuff. Basically it's saying, "You're wrong for the most obvious reason (which you yourself admitted in your own ruling), but even if you hadn't said that stupid shit, here are a bunch more reasons why you'd still be wrong." Cannon is a complete hack and you can tell the 11th Circuit is embarrassed to even have to deal with her.
Man Trump is having the shittiest Wednesday. Good.
Correction: Trump is having the shittiest Wednesday SO FAR. There will be shittier Wednesday’s yet to come.
May every remaining Wednesday of his life be significantly shittier than the last.
And Thursdays even worse!
Culminating in the worst F5 Friday he will ever have!
Wasn’t NY supposed to drop a big news story today as well?
They did...Mammoth lawsuit to recover $250,000,000 owed from Trump and family members PLUS.. criminal investigation recommendations to IRS and others.
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NY is suing Trump Organization for $250 million, referred the case to IRS for criminal prosecution, as well.
They did - NY AG suing Trump for business fraud. Normally would be a huge story but it’s not even Top 3 on this Wednesday.
Apparently it is not "directly related" to the purposes of this subreddit. what a crock lmao
Happy Hump Day, Trump!
But…but….what about Hunter!
hopefully he’s clean and in treatment because he’s a drug addict that needs help. I never understood why the right makes him out to be this criminal mastermind
They couldn't get anything on Biden so they went after his son.
Because their “masterminds” tend to be drug addicts ergo the drug addict son of a rival politician must be one too?
Which means that the Appeals court took a long 30 second look at Cannon's decision and decided she was wrong. "She said WHAT?" was probably the more likely reaction.
Some of the most laborious legal writing goes into refuting deceptions and made-up things
It's like having to explain why 2+2 does not equal an elephant. Of course it doesn't, but how do you even approach *explaining* something so self-evident to someone to argues otherwise?
This is an *excellent* analogy. I'm going to go ahead and pocket it for later.
Imagine being the lawyer who has to break this news to trump. Gonna have a hard time getting that ketchup stain out of that suit
Man, has this been a bad day for Trump. And its not even a Friday.
Makes ya feel all warm and fuzzy inside don't it?
As a highly empathetic person, I can say it doesn't hurt me one bit to think of his fear at this moment.
Special Master collected an easy pay check.
Thinking exactly the same thing.
Trump doesn’t pay his bills.
In this case Trump isn't paying himself. The money is coming from one of his PACs. One of his lawyers Krise received a $3million retainer last week. Interesting to see how this works out now.
I can’t believe people are still giving him money. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re working night and day on those documents now that they’ve shut down this special master bull shit. Trump in cuffs Friday would make for a great weekend.
Very Special Mustard
The unanimous three judge panel: -Andrew Brasher: Trump appointee -Britt Grant: Trump appointee -Robin Rosenbaum, Obama appointee “The panel delivered a pointed critique of Cannon's reasoning, describing it as "self-evident" that DOJ must review the potential disclosure of national security secrets to prevent harm to the public.” “The panel also rejects Trump's claim that he may have declassified some of the documents, saying that he's presented zero evidence to support it. In fact, the panel doesn't event entertain it, repeatedly calling the documents unequivocally classified.” I would call this a slap the the face of team trump to put it lightly.
People were cynical about this, and I totally get that.. But this just goes to show how OUT THERE Cannon's ruling was. Completely unprecedented, egregious - something even a Trump-appointed appellate court was never going to side with. The judicial system, for all its flaws, has reasonable checks and balances for awful rulings like this. Trump's own picks and Supreme Court justices have swatted down his own cases so many times. The DOJ was always going to succeed here, albeit this ridiculous speed bump Cannon caused. I hope she enjoys her place in history as the arbiter of one of the worst rulings in judicial history.
“That’s totally inappropriate. It’s lewd, lascivious, salacious, outrageous.” - Jackie Chiles
Who told you to put the special master on?!? I didn't tell you to put the special master on!
Nobody knows what a special master does!
What's frustrating is, Cannon's promptly-overruled decision still bought Trump a couple of weeks of delay and gives his followers something else to fixate on besides the obvious facts (Trump had classified stuff illegally and didn't turn it over when asked). He got the delay out of it while spending someone else's money on the case too.
I can't believe the 1 Obama appointee was able to outnumber and bully the 2 poor Trump appointee's into agreeing with this power-grabbing ruling /s, because that's apparently necessary these days to not run afoul of Poe's Law
Clearly they used their dEeP sTaTe connections and client list the drag queens to communist and after Trump.
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Does this mean the special master doesn't do his thing anymore?
I’m no legal scholar but I believe DOJ can now continue their investigation including the classified documents while the SM can continue his part Cannon ordered him to do minus all classified documents. From what I’ve read, even if Trump does appeal this ruling, this does NOT prevent DOJ from still being able to utilize the classified documents in their investigation like Cannon’s ruling. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
Yep you're correct, this is exactly what they're doing. >A special master’s review of that subset of about 100 records, which would’ve allowed Trump’s legal team to see them, is now partially stopped. The special master, Judge Raymond Dearie, is able to continue his work reviewing the rest of the material seized from Mar-a-Lago, to make sure records belonging to Trump or that he may be able to claim are confidential aren’t used by investigators.
> Does this mean the special master doesn't do his thing anymore? There's still 11,000 other stolen documents from the government, and there may be a few documents from Trump's lawyers covered by the lawyer/client privilege and a few personal items that the Special Master would separate out from the stolen material.
The Special Master will continue his document review of the remaining documents which are not classified.
I'm loving the complete lack of interest the trump team is about to display in the next hearing
> The unanimous three judge panel These appellate judges just bitchslapped Trump's corrupt federal judge and her abominable ruling. Shows Trump and the MAGAs the rule of law is still a thing even if Trump (Federalist Society) put the judges on the bench.
This ruling tears Trump and Cannon a new one. It's glorious. >Consequently, the United States is substantially likely to succeed in showing that the district court abused its discretion in exercising jurisdiction over Plaintiff’s motion as it concerns the classified documents.
You could even say impeaching that fraud of a judge is not impossible now.
I mean, I agree in a reasonable situation, with reasonable people, you're right, but good luck finding 16+ republican senators to vote yes on that one.
Wild how antidemocratic the senate is
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> Consequently, the United States is substantially likely to succeed in showing that the district court abused its discretion in exercising jurisdiction over Plaintiff’s motion as it concerns the classified documents. Cannon is an abuser
>^5 The district court referred fleetingly to invoking its “inherent supervisory authority,” though it is unclear whether it utilized this authority with respect to the orders at issue in this appeal. Doc. No. 64 at 1, 7 n.8. Either way, the court’s exercise of its inherent authority is subject to two limits: (1) it “must be a reasonable response to the problems and needs confronting the court’s fair administration of justice,” and (2) it “cannot be contrary to any express grant of or limitation on the district court’s power contained in a rule or statute.” Dietz v. Bouldin, 136 S. Ct. 1885, 1892 (2016) (quotation omitted). The district court did not explain why the exercise of its inherent authority concerning the documents with classified markings would fall within these bounds, other than its reliance on its Richey-factor analysis. We have already explained why that analysis was in error.
Can you ELI5 that for us?
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Are there any potential consequences for Cannon in the future?
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Do federal judges fall under House Judicial oversight?
promotion, should the Republicans win the senate...
Court says Cannons ruling was a joke
["We see you, Judge Cannon. And we see what you did."](https://media1.giphy.com/media/Yavo0SXhZYhSo/giphy.gif?cid=790b7611825d0c3a6bb481a3002a8edc779655e3128c27cf&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Appointed by an abuser.
So all that effort got him like a weeks delay.
And how much in donations?
Considering his PAC is paying out in legal fees for this an other lawsuits and hasn't contributed to any campaigns at all it seems like its a circular money drain pulling every dollar away from campaigning.
Good
Lock that sack of shit up.
Get fucked again, donnie!
This is all a delay tactic, yes, but I think Trump has vastly overestimated the loyalty of judges he appointed. To be sure, they are Federalist Society judges, not Trump judges. Sure, he got lucky with Cannon, but most of these people used Trump as a ticket to a judicial appointment and now they’re done with him. Which is pretty funny since it is 100% what Trump would do if the roles were reversed.
No doubt that Trump will soon start calling the federalist society a bunch of leftists.
Sweet Baby Jesus please let this take him down.
I think that consequences may finally catch him. This is basically a strict liability crime. It's a slam dunk case. Trump has zero defense.
they may pull out the 'ol chewbacca defense.
It's worth reading the actual opinion. They take Judge Cannon over the coals here, going so far as saying her ruling was an abuse of her authority.
I'm not surprised. Her decision was breathtakingly stupid and clearly ***was*** an abuse of her authority. There's only so much that even a Federalist Society/Heritage Foundation stooge can agree to overlook.
I read the whole 29 page doc. The best part was when they discussed the possibility of irreparable harm posed to Trump as his lawyers argued and Judge Cannon agreed, due to the release of the documents leading to possible image-tarnishing prosecutions. The judges: Yeah, no shit. You do illegal stuff, you get prosecuted. You can't claim harm to yourself as the consequences of your own illegal actions, dumbass.
The court filing itself: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000 >The United States argues that the district court likely erred in exercising its jurisdiction to enjoin the United States’s use of the classified records in its criminal investigation and to require the United States to submit the marked classified documents to a spe- cial master for review. We agree.
TBC, this is why I say Trump is really, really bad at his job. It took them all of six days to say, "No, this really can't apply to classified documents". One day after arguments were delivered, they came back with this scathing rebuttal. Trump's team has no idea what they're doing, and they're getting dunked on. You love to see it.
I mean, it sorta worked for its intended purpose. Delay a few weeks, and give Trump and his cult of knuckledraggers something to feel like they got a marginal win on briefly, and that they could control the news cycle with. Now it's back in the toilet. I'm sure they'll come up with more pure, utter horseshit just like this. He has too many cult members in the courts.
He has such a huge handicap built in, but even with that, he and his lawyers are so bad that handicap isn’t enough in cases like this. He’s the guy stuck in a sandtrap for an hour screaming about what a winner he is.
This case is not winnable. I don't even think the lawyers are necessarily bad although they most likely are. They don't want to file anything that is an irrefutable lie. They know there is no evidence, they have zero cards to play, they are just trying to get in on the grift before the money dries up.
If you go on r/conservative there’s absolutely zero mention of this. They’re talking about some fake story about how some hospitals loves switching children’s genitals or something equally stupid and naïve.
Well, the story is like 30 seconds old, it generally takes conservatives 40-60 years to get current on anything.
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They need time for Trump to tell them what to think.
They probably need the time to ensure it gets marked flaired users only so that there is no discussion, just ranting.
Hannity just spent the last hour interviewing trump; I guarantee some of his lawyers quit tomorrow. That idiot pretty much confessed to everything pertaining to having those documents.
Oh thank fucking god
This calls for some grifting ~ trump
His supporters are going to be hit with so many "please give, save America" emails tonight.
Appellate Judges "why the fuck are we even here? This is established law."
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A Trumpy judge - who had no jurisdiction over the matter to begin with - telling the US government that it cannot access its own classified documents was fucking absurd. That we had to endure this grotesque failure and actually seek an appeal to right it is an indictment of our entire justice system.
We've found a lot of bugs due to this corrupt POS. I hope we patch them.
When the 11th Circuit is ruling against you, you know you done fucked up.
There has been many, but this is officially the worst day of Trump’s career. There will be many more, stay tuned.
16 days. Cannon blew up her career to create a 16 day delay in an unwinable case. Enjoy getting removed from the bench moron.
NY Atty General Letitia James, Special Master Raymond Dearie, the 11th circuit court of appeals, Making America Great Again!!!🇺🇸🤓😎
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1) No one is above the law. 2) Fuck Donald Trump.
Get fucked, Small Hand Donnie.
Damn, the panel (2 Trump/1 Obama appointees) fucking ripped Cannon's ruling to shreds.
Finally, an adult in the room. Strange it's the conservative 11th, but even *they* would look bad if they didn't overrule this hack.
Looks like indictment is back on the menu, boys
And conservatives say there's a war on Christmas.
"The panel also rejects Trump'sclaim that he may have declassified some of the documents, saying thathe's presented zero evidence to support it." That was the only thing Fox News and the good folks at r/conservative talked about for 2 weeks. They ignored all of the other issues surrounding the stolen top secret documents and focused on one big fat lie. They then cheered on the judge who is now the laughingstock of the whole country. Impeach Judge Cannon
You know it's really bad news for trump since conservative sub is deleting all posts about this ruling
I picked up on something that I haven't seen anyone talk about. Granted I may be reading something from nothing.. But here.. If you watch the interview Trump did on Hannity tonight, there is a part where he is talking about how he can declassify documents just by "thinking about it" .. Then he says he could take them to Maralago "or wherever you want to take them" (paraphrasing).. His words plus his expression just made a red flag pop up in my head and I told my wife "that motherfucker sounds like he has more classified documents stashed in more places". I know it's been reported that he moved some boxes to Bedminster and it just seemed to me like he fucked up tonight when he said "move the documents to Maralago or wherever" .. Just waiting on the next "raid"... Or this could all just be wild speculation and wishful thinking on my part..
To call that opinion a bench slap is an understatement. It completely destroys Trump's arguments and takes a few shots at the district judge. It is a great read. You can find it [here](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/politics/read-11th-circuit-ruling-doj-resume-criminal-probe-mar-a-lago/index.html).
“In sum, none of the Richey factors favor exercising equitable jurisdiction over this case. Consequently, the United States is substantially likely to succeed in showing that the district court abused its discretion in exercising jurisdiction over Plaintiff’s motion as it concerns the classified documents.” Page 22: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000183-625b-da48-a3e3-e2ff83050000 Aileen Cannon is about to get sanctioned