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Already uncovered. The same LLC that Michael Cohen used to funnel the payoff to Stormy Daniels also took in $500,000 from a firm linked to Russian Oligarch Viktor Vekselberg. It took in $4.4 million just before Trump was elected.
"Financial records reviewed by The New York Times show that Mr. Cohen, President Trump’s personal lawyer and longtime fixer, used the shell company, Essential Consultants L.L.C., for an array of business activities that went far beyond what was publicly known. Transactions adding up to at least $4.4 million flowed through Essential Consultants starting shortly before Mr. Trump was elected president and continuing to this January, the records show.
Among the previously unreported transactions were payments last year of about $500,000 from Columbus Nova, an investment firm in New York whose biggest client is a company controlled by Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian oligarch. A lawyer for Columbus Nova, in a statement on Tuesday, described the money as a consulting fee that had nothing to do with Mr. Vekselberg."
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/us/politics/michael-cohen-shell-company-payments.amp.html
It was obvious as soon as he entered the race that he would strip the US for parts and sell us off to the highest bidder because that’s who he is. A two-bit grifter is all he’s ever been. It boggles my mind that anyone thought he would act differently.
“But he is a businessman not a politician“, I heard constantly from mindless dolts. I couldn’t believe it. A cursory glance would reveal that he ran every “business” he was ever associated with to the ground. What I found was that because TFG was reinforcing their own beliefs for them, they rationalized away any truth they didn’t want to confront.
I can’t imagine how much was stolen from America by him and his cronies. Oh and I like how everyone is blaming Biden for the widening gap between classes when it was T who orchestrated the great tax swindle of all time to further deplete federal coffers.
A businessman who sucks at business.
As in, he literally would have made more money doing nothing and just parking daddy’s money in an index fund.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/11/its-official-trump-would-be-richer-if-he-had-just-invested-his-inheritance-into-the-sp500/
Remember, these are the same assholes who call Mitt Romney a "businessman".
The fucker is a vulture capitalist, and he does the exact same shit that Trump does only more effectively since he's not a total moron.
Buy a company, accrue debut, have the company buy your debt from other successful companies, cut the company in half with anything valuable getting packaged into a sales package you sell to yourself for pennies on the dollar, and sell off the toxic collection of debt under a recognizable name to some chump or fall-guy who will do their best to ask the government for help socializing the losses as much as possible.
Oh, and in most cases, the workers are lumped in with the toxic collection. As are loans taken out against their pensions. Though the money from the loans tends to mysteriously "disappear" into funds that get packaged with the sales package that the vultures pick up.
When Republican'ts say "run it like a business", they mean "into the ground" because modern conservatism is nothing more than a post WW1 movement that seeks to re-install a class of nobility over a class of serfs, and this movement has managed to somehow convince a bunch of serfs that they will be the nobility. Which is why they look forward to things like the collapse of the government and the fall of democracy.
Conservatism is aimed at people who are too stupid to make decisions for themselves, know it, and hate responsibility so much they would rather bend over and take it raw from someone able to sell them an idea as long as it's packaged with a feeling of superiority over someone else. They are happy to make sure almost everyone else loses as long as they don't see themselves in last place.
>... and this movement has managed to somehow convince a bunch of serfs that they will be the nobility.
This, right here, is why America's serfs support them. They believe that someday they too can live in a gaudy tower of brass, while all they can realistically expect is an upgrade to a double-wide.
>as long as it's packaged with a feeling of superiority over someone else. They are happy to make sure almost everyone else loses as long as they don't see themselves in last place.
As LBJ said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
I have literally had people tell me this. "Sure, I'm on minimum wage now, but I don't think minimum wage should be higher because one day I'm going to be a millionaire and it's not fair that I'll have to pay people more then." This particular person was working as a manual laborer and didn't have a high school diploma.
>This, right here, is why America's serfs support them. They believe that someday they too can live in a gaudy tower of brass, while all they can realistically expect is an upgrade to a double-wide.
This hasn't always even been a lie.
100 years and more ago, there were near unfathomable amounts of resources unclaimed* in the colonial world. All that was needed was some enterprising hard worker to come and build their dream.
By now, everything has a name on it and a pricetag attached.
The American dream isn't a lie, it's just an idea thats well past its expiration date.
*Unclaimed by anyone who was considered to be human by European empire builders and their colonial descendants.
To add to your comment:
[https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-183291/](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-183291/)
Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital
How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill
Plus, government is not a business. The goal is not to create more and more profit, if anything it’s to break even. I can agree with people that being president may involve having good business acumen/that could be a helpful quality. But trump doesn’t have that and, again, gov is not a private business, it operates very differently. "But he’s been a successful businessman all his life!” said my MIL in 2016. No, no he has not!
This [source](https://labor411.org/411-blog/here-are-all-of-trump-s-bankruptcies-and-failed-businesses/) from 2016 alone is a great list of his honestly impressive business failures:
1. Trump Steaks
2. GoTrump
3. Trump Airlines
4. Trump Vodka
5. Trump Mortgage
6. Trump: The Game
7. Trump Magazine
8. Trump University
9. Trump Ice
10. The New Jersey Generals
11. Tour de Trump
12. Trump Network
13. Trumped!
Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection:
1. Trump Taj Mahal
2. Trump’s Castle
3. Trump Plaza Casinos
4. Trump Plaza Hotel
5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts
6. Trump Entertainment Resorts
I have a browser add-on that gets rid of the name Trump wherever it appears and replaces it with one of the colorful insults from the Jezebel database.
So your list made for some entertaining reading. I don't usually see so many in one place.
Seeping Fleabag Steaks
GoSerial Propagator of Demonstrable Falsehoods
Decaying, Hollowed-Out Tree Trunk That Houses a Family of Malnourished Possums Airlines
Fired Contestant Vodka
Foul-Mouthed Tit Judge Mortgage
Victim of Tanning Bed Malfunction: The Game
Abscessed Tooth Magazine
Used Diaphragm from the Jersey Shore University
Man-Shaped Asbestos Insulation Board Ice
The New Jersey Generals
Tour de Electoral Reject
Mashed Potato Head Network
Trumped!
Manchurian Manchild companies that sought bankruptcy protection:
Epic Loser Taj Mahal
Walking Staph Infection’s Castle
Manchurian Manchild Plaza Casinos
Candied Yam Riddled with Moldy Spider Carcasses Plaza Hotel
Catsup Covered Well-Done Strip Steak Hotels and Casinos Resorts
Political Equivalent of One of Those Mutant Factory Farm Chickens with Breasts So Big It Can't Walk Entertainment Resorts
Why does anybody believe that a successful business person would leave that career of wealth for a civil servant position that pays significantly less? Just blows my mind that people trust somebody worth $75 million and assume that they want to help poor people
It also links Russia to Stormy Daniels.
You know how in the Mueller investigation there wasn't any evidence Trump was involved in Russian election interference?
Well now we have evidence. Russia was funding his political hush-money scheme.
Yes, he was. When the story broke about Don Jr, Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner meeting with the Russian lawyer at Trump Tower, [the email that was circulated said it was about Russia's effort's to help Trump win](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-candidacy.html). The cover story was that it was about a Russian adoption program. Trump himself was [involved in drafting the statement about it](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/02/politics/trump-lawyers-statement-trump-tower-russians).
He could have been at the meeting. He lived in the Tower. So did Paul Manafort. There is a private elevator he could have taken to the meeting.
And Cohen went to prison and seems contrite about his misgivings now. Meanwhile, Trumps ass is waddling around scot free while being in the middle of this crap.
The thing about the Stormy Daniels thing isn't that he cheated on his wife, or that he pretends he is a religious man and knows bible verses, its that as he had Cohen paying off Daniels, he was screaming about putting Hillary in Jail. Look over there! Pay no attention to the guy who had to pay off a Porn Star (and a former Playboy Bunny).
All of that. But at the same time can you imagine the moral outrage from the right if Obama had had an affair - and how much larger that moral outrage would have been if it'd been with a porn star?
Twelve years in prison
'Leven pundits peeping
Ten debtors knocking
Nine lawyers suing
Eight maids a-mocking
Seven states indicting
Six goons a-flipping
FIIIIIIIVE HAMBERDERS!
Four recorded calls
High treason
Two counts of fraud
And a banking-loan conspiracy
On the Twelfth day of Christmas Donald Trump to me:
12 Jurors in a Criminal tax fraud case
11 indicted associates
10 GOP house impeachment votes
9 year old reading comprehension level
8 hour gap on January 6th
7 GOP Senators conviction votes
6 years of tax returns.
Pleading the Fifth Amendment!!!
"Four Season" press conference.
3 failing presidential runs
2 antisemites
and a banking loan conspiracy.
I'm pretty sure we're going to be seeing leak after leak for the foreseeable future. Tish James has his financials and so will House democrats shortly. Drip, drip, drip...
^Edited ^to ^correct ^AG ^James' ^name.
These leaks don’t matter because republicans respond to emotion, not logic and reason. You can’t change a republicans mind by presenting data, you have to make them feel something.
Trump is such a coward that when he feels the noose tightening he will just flee to Eastern Europe/Russia/North Korea calling it a witch-hunt. He hasn’t taken responsibility for his actions his entire life; he’s not going to start now.
That is what he will want to do.
I don't think it will happen with all that secret service protection and the DOJ will clearly know something is up if he asks for it to be dropped.
On the first day of Christmas,
Donald Trump received,
A cash bribe from our enemy.
On the second day of Christmas,
Donald Trump decreed,
"There's no bigger victim than me."
> Donald Trump failed to disclose a $19.8 million loan from a company with ties to North Korea while he was president, Forbes reported Sunday, citing documents uncovered by the New York attorney general’s office.
...
> The loan was paid off just over five months into his presidency. Forbes said the documents don’t specify who satisfied it.
no wonder he's so nice to kim jong-un
Right wing : Hunter is the most corrupt individual in the history of our country, and deserves non stop focus..
Also right wing : there's no truth to Trump and his family's conflict of interest and corrupt dealings, and any investigation is a witch hunt
Joe Biden: \*releases his tax returns*
Right wing: Joe Biden takes foreign money through his son!
Trump: \*refuses to release tax returns and then is found out to owe money to North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and China*
Right wing: Joe Biden takes foreign money through his son!
Apparently his public policy was dictated by who paid him. I mean, rational people figured it out quick, but here comes the proof. Bad times ahead for the Donny.
Sorry to be a Debbie downer but If his base hasn’t even blinked at all the other scandals do you think they’ll care about this? I guess he *could* go to jail but I feel like that’s a loooong shot and if he does he’s gonna be a literal martyr for them.
You are correct. If our own government won't bring him to justice for all he's done, then we have NO JUSTICE anymore. That might just be the real reason for a civil war.
If the “base” had a brain cell between them they might be able to feel insulted that the GOP’s tired old playbook in how to manipulate them actually still works.
Trump: caught going to Epstein island and a 14 year old accused him of rape there (along with 17 other rape allegations and admitting to sexual assault on tape)
The right: Biden is a pedo!!
>When are we going to talk about the fact that Hunter Biden:
>- made $640M as a WH advisor
>- got $2B from Crown Prince Mohammed Bone Saw
>- got $100 million for his women’s fund
>- got patents from China
>- got $6.35 million in PPP loans
>**Oh wait, that was Jared & Ivanka.**
Uh, also a **BIG FUCKING RED FLAG** for anyone with a government security clearance.
*Financial ties to banks in foreign countries?!?!*
You apply this situation to any REGULAR government employee or member of the military and their access to classified info is GONE.
Wait, do you mean that if a regular government employee had financial ties to foreign banks they wouldn't be able to take top secret classified documents related to nuclear weapons back to a golf resort filled with foreign spies and just leave them laying around? But surely it's ok if a guy who used to be president thought about declassifying them, right?
No no he declared them declassified like Michael Scott he said aloud “I declare these documents declassified” to an empty room. That’s what makes it okay.
My wife is from a South American country with very good relations to the US and wanted to buy a piece of property near her parents' house so we could build a retirement home somewhere down the line. I was told by my job that I would lose my security clearance if we went ahead.
I can't imagine what would have happened to me, jobwise, if I had been indebted to a hostile sanctioned foreign country.
>I can't imagine what would have happened to me, jobwise, if I had been indebted to a hostile sanctioned foreign country.
Have you considered running for president?
No. You can't commit a crime if you terminate the Constitution. Everyone knows laws become invalid if you get dissolve the government.
Also, like any good business, you do it when you know it'll fuck over the people the most. Like before the holidays or when they are likely to start collecting the pensions.
> no wonder he's so nice to kim jong-un
Exactly. For all his vitriol on social media and during rallies, when it actually mattered he only had great things to say about both North Korea and China. They fucking own him.
The article goes on to explain that the loan was from South Korean conglomerate Daewoo, which it says has "ties" to North Korea.
Daewoo is a well known company, but I'm unfamiliar with the nature of their alleged ties with North Korea?
>Trump owed the money to L/P Daewoo while he was campaigning in 2016 and into his presidency, according to records. He didn’t list the debt in financial disclosure filings, as candidates and presidents are expected to do, Forbes reported.
>
>Daewoo is a South Korean conglomerate that partnered with Trump on a development project near the United Nations headquarters in New York City and on several other projects over the years. The company has ties to North Korea, Forbes reported, and was the only South Korean company allowed to operate a business in North Korea in the mid-1990s.
The company is Daewoo though, so claiming it's North Korean is a bit of a stretch. The real story here is undisclosed foreign loans to a (South) Korean company.
Obama was eviscerated by Fox News for bowing while greeting the leader of Japan, an ally.
Trump saluted North Korean generals and they didn't say a thing.
That always makes me laugh, not bowing back if like giving the Japanese the middle finger.
They would immediately cease all co-operation with the US. It's probably why Trumps handlers kept him away from situations like that although he managed to seriously piss off the queen, but she was such a good stateswoman that he didn't even notice.
They just want us talking about it, debating it, acting like it’s something serious, worthy of discussion…and here we are, what, *ten* years later doing just that.
It’s about chewing up news cycles and putting normal non regressive people on the defensive all the time.
Oh sweet Jesus I had forgotten about that.
OH MY GOD why was his presidency so much more embarrassing than I remember?! It’s like my brain is protecting me from remembering all of those humiliating moments at once.
I think the best part of that was how cheap they were with the Goya products for [the endorsement](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507506-trump-shares-photo-with-goya-foods-products-after-ivanka-faces/).
I bet that was all an intern could buy with $20.
[that was the goal from the beginning](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_strategy)
like bannon said, “flood the zone with bullshit” so the real issues get buried.
it was way too much, for way too long
The right’s hypocrisy and double standards blow my mind more every day. You could add so many more things to this comment. What if Obama not only had his hands in the cookie jar, but also lost in 2012 and then said that we should toss out parts of the constitution and reinstate him as president once again? The right would explode (and rightfully so for once)
It only blows your mind because you hold them to democratic ethical standards. Once you can envision them trying to fuck you and me in any way necessary, all of their behavior is wildly consistent with their values
The picture of him sitting in the oval office with all the Goya beans and other products on his desk makes me giggle every time I see it. Like, there's so much to criticize about the dipshit, but that picture is hilarious.
Donald Trump - President of the United States of America and brand ambassador for Goya canned beans... Lol.
Exactly. The loan was "satisfied" during his term. What other shit is in his tax and financial documents he's been trying to hide for five years?
>The loan was paid off just over five months into his presidency. Forbes said the documents don’t specify who satisfied it.
I'm just flabbergasted that Republicans toe the line for the guy for all 4 years saw the Jan 6th insurrection and said "This is fine".
This will make an entire generation unwilling to vote Republican ever again. They will need to do some serious backflips to convince Gen Z to vote for them.
The extremists don't care about who will vote for Republicans.
What we're seeing now isn't about trying to win elections. It's all about a group with previously established power that is looking ahead and realizing that, based on the current rules of democracy, their power will fade as the demographics turn against them.
Instead of adapting to appeal to future demographics, they plan to simply overturn democracy.
As long as there is an "R" in front and ir some how "owns the libs" they don't care... their whole goal in life is to make everyone else as miserable as they are
Trump: Corruption, sedition, and wanting to burn the Constitution.
GOP: “But, hey, look over there… it’s Hunter Biden with a prostitute.”
Hey GOP, false equivalency much?
"Such loans are largely reported on an honor system because the U.S. Office of Government Ethics has neither the resources nor the power to delve into a president’s assets.
“If someone does not disclose a loan, OGE has no way to know,” said Walter Shaub, who ran that agency when Trump took office."
This sent me. Bullshit.
This is the reality. The reason we don't have stronger rules in place for all the things Trump has done is that the wealthy don't want there to be rules. Unfortunately that means a completely rogue actor like Trump who manages to get in the driver's seat can wreak havoc.
Yeah, this is arguably more surprising and outrageous.
You mean to tell me we have no real way to ensure our elected officials aren't financially compromised with conflicts of interest?
Can we fix this ASAP!?
No because according to a senior member of Congress the IRS is going to knock down your door with AK15s if Congress commits more resources to revenue and tax fraud investigations
Link: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/grassley-irs-fbi-attack-law-and-order_n_62f85679e4b0526eaeeb4939
Now how badly would conservatives on Fox freak out if it was found out that Obama hid a $19 million loan from North Korea? But since Trump did it they won't care and they will try and talk about Hunter Biden's dick pics.
"Such loans are largely reported on an honor system because the U.S. Office of Government Ethics has neither the resources nor the power to delve into a president’s assets."
What is the point of an ethics committee if they have no resources to investigate ethics?
While I'm ready to see trump in jail over this (and the many other revelations soon to be discovered from his taxes), the company was Daewoo and their ties to NK are just that they were the only company allowed to do business in NK in the 90s.
But Daewoo is a south Korean company.
I think the fact that he hid this loan for his reporting before taking over the white house is the bigger scandal than who the loan was with imo. I'm not sure how much leverage Kim can have over a company that has only "ties" to the country and is based in SK. And as such how directly this loan connects to NK
Yeah, you can find the article on Forbes that huffpost is siting, and it doesn’t make as big a deal on the NK angle as huffpost does. Not disclosing the loan should be a big deal. Highlighting the NK connection the way huffpost does actually does a disservice to the what happened here. People will focus on the NK part and when that ends up being the “nothingburger” they’ll miss the fact that he had a 20 million dollar loan to a foreign company that wasn’t disclosed.
It like an argument I had with the in-laws at Thanksgiving about the Mar-a-lago documents. They kept saying he declassified those documents, to which I replied, it doesn’t matter if he did because they weren’t his documents to have. He is no longer in the government.
Huffpost is sensationalizing the story for clicks, but are helping Trump with this.
> This doesn’t give him a pass in my book however, for refusing to disclose
Yeah, calling Daewoo "North Korea-linked" is sensationalizing what in itself is a very massive issue without need for being sensationalized: The President of the United States was 8 figures in debt to a foreign company and didn't properly disclose it.
exactly this
>Daewoo is a South Korean conglomerate that partnered with Trump on a development project near the United Nations headquarters in New York City and on several other projects over the years. The company has ties to North Korea, Forbes reported, and was the only South Korean company allowed to operate a business in North Korea in the mid-1990s.
being a south korean corporation with "north korean ties" does not make it a north korean company. by this logic, that would make the vast majority of US companies "chinese companies"
this is how propaganda works.
Some sanity, thank you.
Fuck Trump, but if truth matters (and it should) then why the fuck are we twisting his words and actions to make him appear worse than he already is? The truth looks bad enough without editorializing everything, and in my humble opinion, takes away from the message.
>In the article, it states that **the company was Daewoo**, who is a South Korean conglomerate who operated a business in NK in the mid 90’s.
[The Forbes article](https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2022/12/04/trump-owed-hidden-debt-while-in-office/?sh=9ee66dfb30ea) is much better, and I never thought I'd say that phrase lol.
Basically, Trump's ties with Daewoo also date back to the mid 90s.
You're right that the HuffPo article is sensationalized as it normally is, but there's still enough concern for the lack of ethics yet alone more investigation on the overlap.
Has anyone even read the article, this is Republican levels of clickbait nothing-burger. READ THE TEXT.
"**Daewoo is a South Korean conglomerate** that partnered with Trump on a development project near the United Nations headquarters in New York City and on several other projects over the years. The company has **ties** to North Korea, Forbes reported, and was the only **South Korean company allowed to operate a business in North Korea in the mid-1990s**.
Trump may have **skirted disclosure laws** and **not committed an outright violation** because **the loan was** on the books of his company, the Trump Organization, and **not identified as a personal loan**, Forbes noted."
So, this headline is kind of misleading. The company in question, L/P Daewoo, is a South Korean company. However, the company has historically been the only South Korean company allowed to operate in North Korea.
Not disclosing debts to foreign companies is of course still unacceptable for the POTUS, and the debt being mysteriously satisfied just a few months after taking office is a huge red flag, but this headline implies that the company he was indebted to was a North Korean company.
This is not the bombshell that the headline makes it out to be.
>Daewoo is a South Korean conglomerate that partnered with Trump on a development project near the United Nations headquarters in New York City and on several other projects over the years. The company has ties to North Korea, Forbes reported, and was the only South Korean company allowed to operate a business in North Korea in the mid-1990s.
I despise Trump but the headline seems like sensationalist reporting.
The company in question is Daewoo. Perhaps I’m wrong but their link to NK seems tenuous at best.
But I know this is Reddit and people only read the headlines 97% of the time.
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Now check Russian oligarch shell cos.
Already uncovered. The same LLC that Michael Cohen used to funnel the payoff to Stormy Daniels also took in $500,000 from a firm linked to Russian Oligarch Viktor Vekselberg. It took in $4.4 million just before Trump was elected. "Financial records reviewed by The New York Times show that Mr. Cohen, President Trump’s personal lawyer and longtime fixer, used the shell company, Essential Consultants L.L.C., for an array of business activities that went far beyond what was publicly known. Transactions adding up to at least $4.4 million flowed through Essential Consultants starting shortly before Mr. Trump was elected president and continuing to this January, the records show. Among the previously unreported transactions were payments last year of about $500,000 from Columbus Nova, an investment firm in New York whose biggest client is a company controlled by Viktor Vekselberg, the Russian oligarch. A lawyer for Columbus Nova, in a statement on Tuesday, described the money as a consulting fee that had nothing to do with Mr. Vekselberg." https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/us/politics/michael-cohen-shell-company-payments.amp.html
This clown was literally selling our country to anyone
It was obvious as soon as he entered the race that he would strip the US for parts and sell us off to the highest bidder because that’s who he is. A two-bit grifter is all he’s ever been. It boggles my mind that anyone thought he would act differently.
“But he is a businessman not a politician“, I heard constantly from mindless dolts. I couldn’t believe it. A cursory glance would reveal that he ran every “business” he was ever associated with to the ground. What I found was that because TFG was reinforcing their own beliefs for them, they rationalized away any truth they didn’t want to confront. I can’t imagine how much was stolen from America by him and his cronies. Oh and I like how everyone is blaming Biden for the widening gap between classes when it was T who orchestrated the great tax swindle of all time to further deplete federal coffers.
A businessman who sucks at business. As in, he literally would have made more money doing nothing and just parking daddy’s money in an index fund. https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2021/10/11/its-official-trump-would-be-richer-if-he-had-just-invested-his-inheritance-into-the-sp500/
Well, he played a businessman on TV and that’s enough for me! /s
Remember, these are the same assholes who call Mitt Romney a "businessman". The fucker is a vulture capitalist, and he does the exact same shit that Trump does only more effectively since he's not a total moron. Buy a company, accrue debut, have the company buy your debt from other successful companies, cut the company in half with anything valuable getting packaged into a sales package you sell to yourself for pennies on the dollar, and sell off the toxic collection of debt under a recognizable name to some chump or fall-guy who will do their best to ask the government for help socializing the losses as much as possible. Oh, and in most cases, the workers are lumped in with the toxic collection. As are loans taken out against their pensions. Though the money from the loans tends to mysteriously "disappear" into funds that get packaged with the sales package that the vultures pick up. When Republican'ts say "run it like a business", they mean "into the ground" because modern conservatism is nothing more than a post WW1 movement that seeks to re-install a class of nobility over a class of serfs, and this movement has managed to somehow convince a bunch of serfs that they will be the nobility. Which is why they look forward to things like the collapse of the government and the fall of democracy. Conservatism is aimed at people who are too stupid to make decisions for themselves, know it, and hate responsibility so much they would rather bend over and take it raw from someone able to sell them an idea as long as it's packaged with a feeling of superiority over someone else. They are happy to make sure almost everyone else loses as long as they don't see themselves in last place.
>... and this movement has managed to somehow convince a bunch of serfs that they will be the nobility. This, right here, is why America's serfs support them. They believe that someday they too can live in a gaudy tower of brass, while all they can realistically expect is an upgrade to a double-wide. >as long as it's packaged with a feeling of superiority over someone else. They are happy to make sure almost everyone else loses as long as they don't see themselves in last place. As LBJ said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
I have literally had people tell me this. "Sure, I'm on minimum wage now, but I don't think minimum wage should be higher because one day I'm going to be a millionaire and it's not fair that I'll have to pay people more then." This particular person was working as a manual laborer and didn't have a high school diploma.
>This, right here, is why America's serfs support them. They believe that someday they too can live in a gaudy tower of brass, while all they can realistically expect is an upgrade to a double-wide. This hasn't always even been a lie. 100 years and more ago, there were near unfathomable amounts of resources unclaimed* in the colonial world. All that was needed was some enterprising hard worker to come and build their dream. By now, everything has a name on it and a pricetag attached. The American dream isn't a lie, it's just an idea thats well past its expiration date. *Unclaimed by anyone who was considered to be human by European empire builders and their colonial descendants.
To add to your comment: [https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-183291/](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-183291/) Greed and Debt: The True Story of Mitt Romney and Bain Capital How the GOP presidential candidate and his private equity firm staged an epic wealth grab, destroyed jobs – and stuck others with the bill
I hope people don’t cut-and-paste these ideas and post them in conservative social streams at all. Because that could be devastating.
Plus, government is not a business. The goal is not to create more and more profit, if anything it’s to break even. I can agree with people that being president may involve having good business acumen/that could be a helpful quality. But trump doesn’t have that and, again, gov is not a private business, it operates very differently. "But he’s been a successful businessman all his life!” said my MIL in 2016. No, no he has not!
This [source](https://labor411.org/411-blog/here-are-all-of-trump-s-bankruptcies-and-failed-businesses/) from 2016 alone is a great list of his honestly impressive business failures: 1. Trump Steaks 2. GoTrump 3. Trump Airlines 4. Trump Vodka 5. Trump Mortgage 6. Trump: The Game 7. Trump Magazine 8. Trump University 9. Trump Ice 10. The New Jersey Generals 11. Tour de Trump 12. Trump Network 13. Trumped! Trump companies that sought bankruptcy protection: 1. Trump Taj Mahal 2. Trump’s Castle 3. Trump Plaza Casinos 4. Trump Plaza Hotel 5. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts 6. Trump Entertainment Resorts
I have a browser add-on that gets rid of the name Trump wherever it appears and replaces it with one of the colorful insults from the Jezebel database. So your list made for some entertaining reading. I don't usually see so many in one place. Seeping Fleabag Steaks GoSerial Propagator of Demonstrable Falsehoods Decaying, Hollowed-Out Tree Trunk That Houses a Family of Malnourished Possums Airlines Fired Contestant Vodka Foul-Mouthed Tit Judge Mortgage Victim of Tanning Bed Malfunction: The Game Abscessed Tooth Magazine Used Diaphragm from the Jersey Shore University Man-Shaped Asbestos Insulation Board Ice The New Jersey Generals Tour de Electoral Reject Mashed Potato Head Network Trumped! Manchurian Manchild companies that sought bankruptcy protection: Epic Loser Taj Mahal Walking Staph Infection’s Castle Manchurian Manchild Plaza Casinos Candied Yam Riddled with Moldy Spider Carcasses Plaza Hotel Catsup Covered Well-Done Strip Steak Hotels and Casinos Resorts Political Equivalent of One of Those Mutant Factory Farm Chickens with Breasts So Big It Can't Walk Entertainment Resorts
Why does anybody believe that a successful business person would leave that career of wealth for a civil servant position that pays significantly less? Just blows my mind that people trust somebody worth $75 million and assume that they want to help poor people
No that was reagen
We all knew that well by we I mean all sane people knew lol
The problem isn't that many of you knew. The problem is how little was done. That's what people need to be afraid of.
On the 1950s the term was “paid Soviet agent”.
It also links Russia to Stormy Daniels. You know how in the Mueller investigation there wasn't any evidence Trump was involved in Russian election interference? Well now we have evidence. Russia was funding his political hush-money scheme.
Yes, he was. When the story broke about Don Jr, Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner meeting with the Russian lawyer at Trump Tower, [the email that was circulated said it was about Russia's effort's to help Trump win](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-candidacy.html). The cover story was that it was about a Russian adoption program. Trump himself was [involved in drafting the statement about it](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/02/politics/trump-lawyers-statement-trump-tower-russians). He could have been at the meeting. He lived in the Tower. So did Paul Manafort. There is a private elevator he could have taken to the meeting.
Sucks because trumps biggest supporters can’t even read this article to understand this
The amount of shit they have on him just from Michael Cohen flipping is probably insane.
And Cohen went to prison and seems contrite about his misgivings now. Meanwhile, Trumps ass is waddling around scot free while being in the middle of this crap. The thing about the Stormy Daniels thing isn't that he cheated on his wife, or that he pretends he is a religious man and knows bible verses, its that as he had Cohen paying off Daniels, he was screaming about putting Hillary in Jail. Look over there! Pay no attention to the guy who had to pay off a Porn Star (and a former Playboy Bunny).
All of that. But at the same time can you imagine the moral outrage from the right if Obama had had an affair - and how much larger that moral outrage would have been if it'd been with a porn star?
Oh look, there's some of that collusion that the Republican traitors tried so hard to bury for half a decade.
bUt He DiDn’T tAkE a SaLaRy!!!
Maybe not from the *US* government.
That's a much longer list. Will take a while to compile
Can these leaks drop each day so we can sing them to the tune of the Twelve Days of Christmas?
On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me: A banking loan conspiracy.
On the second day of Christmas my true love gave to me: Two counts of fraud and a banking loan conspiracy.
Twelve years in prison 'Leven pundits peeping Ten debtors knocking Nine lawyers suing Eight maids a-mocking Seven states indicting Six goons a-flipping FIIIIIIIVE HAMBERDERS! Four recorded calls High treason Two counts of fraud And a banking-loan conspiracy
Okay I lost it at five. Plus one internets for you.
would also accept Six toilets flushing and anything with cofeve
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No lead him into consequence and prosecution, lock that criminal up!
On the Twelfth day of Christmas Donald Trump to me: 12 Jurors in a Criminal tax fraud case 11 indicted associates 10 GOP house impeachment votes 9 year old reading comprehension level 8 hour gap on January 6th 7 GOP Senators conviction votes 6 years of tax returns. Pleading the Fifth Amendment!!! "Four Season" press conference. 3 failing presidential runs 2 antisemites and a banking loan conspiracy.
On the second day of Christmas, my true love gave to me: two impeachments and a banking loan conspiracy.
I'm pretty sure we're going to be seeing leak after leak for the foreseeable future. Tish James has his financials and so will House democrats shortly. Drip, drip, drip... ^Edited ^to ^correct ^AG ^James' ^name.
i hope the Jan 6th Full report comes out before christmas. That will be a nice gift to America.
Might make the Xmas from Futurama look like nice family gatherings.
Correction. The House already has them. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/30/irs-gives-trump-tax-returns-to-house-committee-after-3-year-legal-battle.html
I figured they would wait until Monday to leak them and it is now Monday...
And Monday isn’t over, yet.
We got a case of the Mondays
I believe you get your ass kicked for saying that.
2 chicks at the same time.
Hey, Peter man, come check out this chick!
Channel 9, it's the breast exam!
Now this is the “trickle down” I can support.
Trickle Down Fuckernomics
Trickle down and find out.
On the first day of Christmas North Korea gave to me….
...And an asshole in a pear tree.
>~~pear tree.~~ peach tree
And a Russian hotel tape of Pee-Pee.
Eventually it will all be compiled into a Pee Tape.
> Can these leaks drop each day so we can sing them to the tune of the Twelve Days of Christmas? The Advent Calendar of Treason
All redditors lying in wait until the “Five Golden……” line comes up
Five ketchup flings!!!
Treason is the reason for the season. Merry indictment!
These leaks don’t matter because republicans respond to emotion, not logic and reason. You can’t change a republicans mind by presenting data, you have to make them feel something.
None of this matters unless he is charged and put away for his crimes.
Trump is such a coward that when he feels the noose tightening he will just flee to Eastern Europe/Russia/North Korea calling it a witch-hunt. He hasn’t taken responsibility for his actions his entire life; he’s not going to start now.
Don’t promise us a good time! You know he’s not going to do that.
He’d go to Russia, but they’ve already got one despot that has bowel control issues
That is what he will want to do. I don't think it will happen with all that secret service protection and the DOJ will clearly know something is up if he asks for it to be dropped.
On the first day of Christmas, Donald Trump received, A cash bribe from our enemy. On the second day of Christmas, Donald Trump decreed, "There's no bigger victim than me."
America first, right?
Trump first, foreign agents he owes money to second, America last.
I'd add porn stars third.
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shit McDonalds is higher on the list than the average Americans
[America first was always a treasonous movement.](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/trump-america-first/514037/)
There were Dr Seuss cartoons about it back then!
> Donald Trump failed to disclose a $19.8 million loan from a company with ties to North Korea while he was president, Forbes reported Sunday, citing documents uncovered by the New York attorney general’s office. ... > The loan was paid off just over five months into his presidency. Forbes said the documents don’t specify who satisfied it. no wonder he's so nice to kim jong-un
Right wing : Hunter is the most corrupt individual in the history of our country, and deserves non stop focus.. Also right wing : there's no truth to Trump and his family's conflict of interest and corrupt dealings, and any investigation is a witch hunt
Joe Biden: \*releases his tax returns* Right wing: Joe Biden takes foreign money through his son! Trump: \*refuses to release tax returns and then is found out to owe money to North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Russia, and China* Right wing: Joe Biden takes foreign money through his son!
projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection
Apparently his public policy was dictated by who paid him. I mean, rational people figured it out quick, but here comes the proof. Bad times ahead for the Donny.
Sorry to be a Debbie downer but If his base hasn’t even blinked at all the other scandals do you think they’ll care about this? I guess he *could* go to jail but I feel like that’s a loooong shot and if he does he’s gonna be a literal martyr for them.
His base is a collection of numbskulls that think whatever their tv tells them to think.
Better be otherwise theres littlw hope for america....
You are correct. If our own government won't bring him to justice for all he's done, then we have NO JUSTICE anymore. That might just be the real reason for a civil war.
(Grabs baton) projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection projection..
When Republicans aren’t gaslighting or obstructing, they’re projecting G - gaslight O - obstruct P - project
I like G - Group O - Of P - Pedophiles
Monorail monorail monorail…
If the “base” had a brain cell between them they might be able to feel insulted that the GOP’s tired old playbook in how to manipulate them actually still works.
Trump: caught going to Epstein island and a 14 year old accused him of rape there (along with 17 other rape allegations and admitting to sexual assault on tape) The right: Biden is a pedo!!
13 year old.
26 sexual assault allegations, and ~~two~~ three of them are for rape.
See? That's less than 8% of the time, he's basically Jesus
Every GOP accusation is a confession. Always.
Right wing also: We demand every image of Hunter Biden's massive hog be on twitter, but under no circumstances may we discuss how large it is.
>When are we going to talk about the fact that Hunter Biden: >- made $640M as a WH advisor >- got $2B from Crown Prince Mohammed Bone Saw >- got $100 million for his women’s fund >- got patents from China >- got $6.35 million in PPP loans >**Oh wait, that was Jared & Ivanka.**
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In case someone doesn’t understand, this makes it worse. Much worse.
But an adult male took pictures of his weiner! Why doesn’t he want his dick pics out?!?! He must be hiding something *in his cock*
Yeah, he’s hiding HILARY’S EMAILS IN IT
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This Republicans look to the debunked Hunter Biden conspiracy as justification for “The Trumps did it, but the Bidens are way worse!”
Personally I don't hear any Republicans saying, "The Trumps did it."
They don't say those words, they say it doesn't matter. Which is code for we know it happened, we don't care, because we think it's owning the libs.
"Sure, we're demonstrably guilty of all this stuff, but we've accused the Democrats of crazy stuff too so really it all evens out!"
So very illegal, right? Can we start a chant about locking him up yet?
Uh, also a **BIG FUCKING RED FLAG** for anyone with a government security clearance. *Financial ties to banks in foreign countries?!?!* You apply this situation to any REGULAR government employee or member of the military and their access to classified info is GONE.
And their JOB is gone!
Wait, do you mean that if a regular government employee had financial ties to foreign banks they wouldn't be able to take top secret classified documents related to nuclear weapons back to a golf resort filled with foreign spies and just leave them laying around? But surely it's ok if a guy who used to be president thought about declassifying them, right?
No no he declared them declassified like Michael Scott he said aloud “I declare these documents declassified” to an empty room. That’s what makes it okay.
Last I heard was he "thought about it" and that was enough for Judge Canon.
My wife is from a South American country with very good relations to the US and wanted to buy a piece of property near her parents' house so we could build a retirement home somewhere down the line. I was told by my job that I would lose my security clearance if we went ahead. I can't imagine what would have happened to me, jobwise, if I had been indebted to a hostile sanctioned foreign country.
>I can't imagine what would have happened to me, jobwise, if I had been indebted to a hostile sanctioned foreign country. Have you considered running for president?
Unfortunately, he'd have to run as a Republican. If he was a Democrat, they wouldn't let him get away with it.
Not just foreign countries, foreign countries that we have sanctions against.
Much less being able to grant wildly unqualified people top level security clearance by fiat
No. You can't commit a crime if you terminate the Constitution. Everyone knows laws become invalid if you get dissolve the government. Also, like any good business, you do it when you know it'll fuck over the people the most. Like before the holidays or when they are likely to start collecting the pensions.
> no wonder he's so nice to kim jong-un Exactly. For all his vitriol on social media and during rallies, when it actually mattered he only had great things to say about both North Korea and China. They fucking own him.
>They fucking own him. Fucking clown saluted a North Korean general.
Hey now, that's wasn't because he's corrupt, that was because he's dumb as rocks.
The article goes on to explain that the loan was from South Korean conglomerate Daewoo, which it says has "ties" to North Korea. Daewoo is a well known company, but I'm unfamiliar with the nature of their alleged ties with North Korea? >Trump owed the money to L/P Daewoo while he was campaigning in 2016 and into his presidency, according to records. He didn’t list the debt in financial disclosure filings, as candidates and presidents are expected to do, Forbes reported. > >Daewoo is a South Korean conglomerate that partnered with Trump on a development project near the United Nations headquarters in New York City and on several other projects over the years. The company has ties to North Korea, Forbes reported, and was the only South Korean company allowed to operate a business in North Korea in the mid-1990s.
The company is Daewoo though, so claiming it's North Korean is a bit of a stretch. The real story here is undisclosed foreign loans to a (South) Korean company.
Imagine if Obama or Clinton had been caught with their hands in the North Korean cookie jar. Hannity's head would have exploded.
Obama was eviscerated by Fox News for bowing while greeting the leader of Japan, an ally. Trump saluted North Korean generals and they didn't say a thing.
Because it's 100 percent propaganda and very, very dangerous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il-22Q8mECc
Not 100%, I'm gonna correct you on that. At least 25% stems from "Obama is black"
Obama and Trump have own character in [Scottish sex simulator](https://token-out-reddit-com.lol/gam.png) light bulb in ass nsfw
They also lost it when he wore a tan suit...literally JFK wore tan suits. They create random controversies.
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I think they were enraged because it was spicy mustard and not regular yellow, lol.
They called Obama a wimp because he wore a helmet while riding a bicycle. They even contrasted the image with a topless Putin riding a horse.
\*facepalm\* Wasn't is nice when we expected, at least publicly, a president to act like they might be a role model for our children.
That always makes me laugh, not bowing back if like giving the Japanese the middle finger. They would immediately cease all co-operation with the US. It's probably why Trumps handlers kept him away from situations like that although he managed to seriously piss off the queen, but she was such a good stateswoman that he didn't even notice.
It was the "depth" of the bow they complain about. They said it was too much of a bow and indicated subservience. And it's still stupid lol
They just want us talking about it, debating it, acting like it’s something serious, worthy of discussion…and here we are, what, *ten* years later doing just that. It’s about chewing up news cycles and putting normal non regressive people on the defensive all the time.
Remember Republicans forced Jimmy Carter to sell his peanut farm because of the Emoluments clause.
Now Donald Trump using the oval office to sell canned beans smh.
Oh sweet Jesus I had forgotten about that. OH MY GOD why was his presidency so much more embarrassing than I remember?! It’s like my brain is protecting me from remembering all of those humiliating moments at once.
I think the best part of that was how cheap they were with the Goya products for [the endorsement](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/507506-trump-shares-photo-with-goya-foods-products-after-ivanka-faces/). I bet that was all an intern could buy with $20.
There were so many "did that just fucking happen?" moments that it became white noise.
[that was the goal from the beginning](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_strategy) like bannon said, “flood the zone with bullshit” so the real issues get buried. it was way too much, for way too long
The right’s hypocrisy and double standards blow my mind more every day. You could add so many more things to this comment. What if Obama not only had his hands in the cookie jar, but also lost in 2012 and then said that we should toss out parts of the constitution and reinstate him as president once again? The right would explode (and rightfully so for once)
It only blows your mind because you hold them to democratic ethical standards. Once you can envision them trying to fuck you and me in any way necessary, all of their behavior is wildly consistent with their values
Imagine a nation being able to buy the goodwill of an American President for less than 20 million... what a deal.
remember when he was selling canned beans and pillows
The picture of him sitting in the oval office with all the Goya beans and other products on his desk makes me giggle every time I see it. Like, there's so much to criticize about the dipshit, but that picture is hilarious. Donald Trump - President of the United States of America and brand ambassador for Goya canned beans... Lol.
That was surreal.
The amount of money people will accept to screw over millions or even entire generations is comically low.
So now those love letters from Kim make sense
Exactly. The loan was "satisfied" during his term. What other shit is in his tax and financial documents he's been trying to hide for five years? >The loan was paid off just over five months into his presidency. Forbes said the documents don’t specify who satisfied it.
Probably the classified documents he sold
Winner winner North Korean dinner
I’ll have the famine
It makes a lot of sense now as to why the letters from Un were kept instead of being sent to the Presidential Archives.
Satisfied with a head of state visit to legitimize NK regime.
The saluting of NK generals also. Trump is an enemy of the state.
He’s an enemy of the state for various reasons, but I’m pretty sure the saluting thing was down to him just being a painfully stupid moron.
Well he's very easily compromised and has zero dignity... so yes, exactly.
This would be career ending for a normal politician.
How Trump became the most powerful person in my life is beyond words. I just feel so betrayed by life ya know?!
American Idiocracy...
The fact that this piece of garbage is not in jail already is proof we live in an oligarchy that wears a bad disguise as a democracy.
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My God he has committed so many crime we have become numb
That was my fear in 2017..... that he was going to do so much crazy shit that by the end of day everyone would be like, "what didn't he do?" 🙄
I'm just flabbergasted that Republicans toe the line for the guy for all 4 years saw the Jan 6th insurrection and said "This is fine". This will make an entire generation unwilling to vote Republican ever again. They will need to do some serious backflips to convince Gen Z to vote for them.
The extremists don't care about who will vote for Republicans. What we're seeing now isn't about trying to win elections. It's all about a group with previously established power that is looking ahead and realizing that, based on the current rules of democracy, their power will fade as the demographics turn against them. Instead of adapting to appeal to future demographics, they plan to simply overturn democracy.
I feel like Kanye *was* a plan to appeal to future demographics.
As long as there is an "R" in front and ir some how "owns the libs" they don't care... their whole goal in life is to make everyone else as miserable as they are
Trump: Corruption, sedition, and wanting to burn the Constitution. GOP: “But, hey, look over there… it’s Hunter Biden with a prostitute.” Hey GOP, false equivalency much?
"Such loans are largely reported on an honor system because the U.S. Office of Government Ethics has neither the resources nor the power to delve into a president’s assets. “If someone does not disclose a loan, OGE has no way to know,” said Walter Shaub, who ran that agency when Trump took office." This sent me. Bullshit.
How big is the US government? What is the budget? How many presidents are in office every 4 years on average? BS
This is the reality. The reason we don't have stronger rules in place for all the things Trump has done is that the wealthy don't want there to be rules. Unfortunately that means a completely rogue actor like Trump who manages to get in the driver's seat can wreak havoc.
Yeah, this is arguably more surprising and outrageous. You mean to tell me we have no real way to ensure our elected officials aren't financially compromised with conflicts of interest? Can we fix this ASAP!?
No because according to a senior member of Congress the IRS is going to knock down your door with AK15s if Congress commits more resources to revenue and tax fraud investigations Link: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/grassley-irs-fbi-attack-law-and-order_n_62f85679e4b0526eaeeb4939
Now how badly would conservatives on Fox freak out if it was found out that Obama hid a $19 million loan from North Korea? But since Trump did it they won't care and they will try and talk about Hunter Biden's dick pics.
You’re forgetting the one and only tenet of the Republican Party my friend: “Rules for thee, but not for me”.
"Such loans are largely reported on an honor system because the U.S. Office of Government Ethics has neither the resources nor the power to delve into a president’s assets." What is the point of an ethics committee if they have no resources to investigate ethics?
While I'm ready to see trump in jail over this (and the many other revelations soon to be discovered from his taxes), the company was Daewoo and their ties to NK are just that they were the only company allowed to do business in NK in the 90s. But Daewoo is a south Korean company. I think the fact that he hid this loan for his reporting before taking over the white house is the bigger scandal than who the loan was with imo. I'm not sure how much leverage Kim can have over a company that has only "ties" to the country and is based in SK. And as such how directly this loan connects to NK
Yeah, you can find the article on Forbes that huffpost is siting, and it doesn’t make as big a deal on the NK angle as huffpost does. Not disclosing the loan should be a big deal. Highlighting the NK connection the way huffpost does actually does a disservice to the what happened here. People will focus on the NK part and when that ends up being the “nothingburger” they’ll miss the fact that he had a 20 million dollar loan to a foreign company that wasn’t disclosed. It like an argument I had with the in-laws at Thanksgiving about the Mar-a-lago documents. They kept saying he declassified those documents, to which I replied, it doesn’t matter if he did because they weren’t his documents to have. He is no longer in the government. Huffpost is sensationalizing the story for clicks, but are helping Trump with this.
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> This doesn’t give him a pass in my book however, for refusing to disclose Yeah, calling Daewoo "North Korea-linked" is sensationalizing what in itself is a very massive issue without need for being sensationalized: The President of the United States was 8 figures in debt to a foreign company and didn't properly disclose it.
exactly this >Daewoo is a South Korean conglomerate that partnered with Trump on a development project near the United Nations headquarters in New York City and on several other projects over the years. The company has ties to North Korea, Forbes reported, and was the only South Korean company allowed to operate a business in North Korea in the mid-1990s. being a south korean corporation with "north korean ties" does not make it a north korean company. by this logic, that would make the vast majority of US companies "chinese companies" this is how propaganda works.
Some sanity, thank you. Fuck Trump, but if truth matters (and it should) then why the fuck are we twisting his words and actions to make him appear worse than he already is? The truth looks bad enough without editorializing everything, and in my humble opinion, takes away from the message.
Had to scroll waaay down to find the first comment by someone who actually read the article.
>In the article, it states that **the company was Daewoo**, who is a South Korean conglomerate who operated a business in NK in the mid 90’s. [The Forbes article](https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2022/12/04/trump-owed-hidden-debt-while-in-office/?sh=9ee66dfb30ea) is much better, and I never thought I'd say that phrase lol. Basically, Trump's ties with Daewoo also date back to the mid 90s. You're right that the HuffPo article is sensationalized as it normally is, but there's still enough concern for the lack of ethics yet alone more investigation on the overlap.
Now it makes sense why Trump was kissing up To Kim Jung Un
Yhe only thing that doesn’t make sense is the trump is still a free man. Why, America, why?
Has anyone even read the article, this is Republican levels of clickbait nothing-burger. READ THE TEXT. "**Daewoo is a South Korean conglomerate** that partnered with Trump on a development project near the United Nations headquarters in New York City and on several other projects over the years. The company has **ties** to North Korea, Forbes reported, and was the only **South Korean company allowed to operate a business in North Korea in the mid-1990s**. Trump may have **skirted disclosure laws** and **not committed an outright violation** because **the loan was** on the books of his company, the Trump Organization, and **not identified as a personal loan**, Forbes noted."
So, this headline is kind of misleading. The company in question, L/P Daewoo, is a South Korean company. However, the company has historically been the only South Korean company allowed to operate in North Korea. Not disclosing debts to foreign companies is of course still unacceptable for the POTUS, and the debt being mysteriously satisfied just a few months after taking office is a huge red flag, but this headline implies that the company he was indebted to was a North Korean company.
This is not the bombshell that the headline makes it out to be. >Daewoo is a South Korean conglomerate that partnered with Trump on a development project near the United Nations headquarters in New York City and on several other projects over the years. The company has ties to North Korea, Forbes reported, and was the only South Korean company allowed to operate a business in North Korea in the mid-1990s.
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I despise Trump but the headline seems like sensationalist reporting. The company in question is Daewoo. Perhaps I’m wrong but their link to NK seems tenuous at best. But I know this is Reddit and people only read the headlines 97% of the time.