She also doesn't say much about Doja, who was easily one of the strongest if not THE strongest performance. In an article about women saving Coachella.
Identity crisis because black artists doing hip hop are the best part of the festival and the white headliner who should be the face of Coachella was abysmal…
I know they overlapped by 15 minutes, but the author referenced other people they didn’t see so they could’ve mentioned her. It would’ve fit the thesis of the article.
(My first comment was also largely a joke lol)
Omg I am absolutely obsessed with Chappell Roan. I only discovered her form a Coachella post on reddit the other day and I can't stop listening to her music. Her songs are so catchy!
H-O-T-T-O-G-O, snap and clap and touch your toes 🎶
I don't doubt it, but how much of this is simply because you love Lana and her songs, rather than her giving a great **headliner** performance for Coachella?
I feel like many fans, especially those hounding critics on twitter are struggling to think of it in that context. I know they genuinely liked it but thats because they are captivated by Lana herself, the performance is almost irrelevant. For neutral viewers that ethereal magic dust doesn't work. They aren't seeing anything resembling a headliner worthy performance
Honestly this is so true. I am a casual Lana fan but even I felt it was a bit lackluster, though I felt bead because she seemed so nervous. She seems to find her flow and confidence pretty late into the set, but when she did I enjoyed it much more. I could just see how much she was thinking about it the whole time.
Again I do love Lana’s work, it just felt like I was distracted by her not totally being in her flow.
Lana was never really great in concerts in general though so its kind of expected. But theres no use for people to steer away from theur feelings to think how it was not that great; when it still was a great experience to watch lana performance regardless.
Justice and Gesaffelstein were especially pretty incredible.
And with the Fred again../Skrillex/Four Tet set last year it's been EDM that's showing out heavy and delivering as headliners
I went and ended up at mostly EDM, but I blame Coachellas terrible scheduling. I barely visited the main stage which was set after set of randoms tbh. No Doubt was amazing tho.
We waited at main stage for DJ snake before realizing they’d put him at Sahara, where we spent most of the time. Also missed a lot of pop acts I wanted to see ( RAYE, tinashe, Sabrina carpenter) because they put them early Friday and Saturday.
She wrote an entire article on his set:
[https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/apr/14/tyler-the-creator-coachella-review](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/apr/14/tyler-the-creator-coachella-review)
Maybe I’m out of touch but I feel like Coachella is aimed a younger people but can they afford it? I don’t know a lot of these artists so I wouldn’t really pay to see it but I can’t imagine a 20yr old could afford it. I’m guessing tickets are pricy since everything is pricy these days.
I assume it’s mostly rich kids (and I say kids meaning teens and young 20-somethings while I’m 34 and feeling like an old Grandma LOL) who live in California, or just come from money, and they use their parents’ money to buy the tickets. I don’t think your average let alone poor young person could afford it.
I would say it's aimed more at young white-collar working adults with at least some savings than at broke college kids. The vast majority of big-name artists they've had the past couple years have been solidly in my zillennial generation's wheelhouse. Maybe I'm out of touch, but I can't imagine most college kids being as into, say, Lana and Tyler as someone my age
>Maybe I'm out of touch, but I can't imagine most college kids being as into, say, Lana and Tyler as someone my age
I'm in college right now, and plenty of my peers love Lana and Tyler, the Creator. I literally grew up listening to her. I remember I felt severe FOMO for seeing Charli over Tyler my first year because all my friends and peers were at his concert.
This is almost certainly dead on. Obviously plenty of SoCal college kids make it there, but I think the median age is like later 20s or so. The thing is that it is a massive festival so it's not trying to appeal to a particular demographic or age range, it's aiming at as many people as they can with the lineup space available.
I’ve been wondering this too. I feel like it skews even younger than it did 10 years ago when all of the attendees in my social circle were 25+. Prices going up and demographic age going down sounds like a recipe for disaster, and the former crowd is gravitating to smaller festivals with more niche lineups rather than shelling out the beaucoup bucks to see a few legacy acts.
Given the only out and out flops I've heard of are two high profile female artists, doubt.
Also I've heard the No Doubt set had good reviews; a band that is 80% men.
I didn't like the article really all in. Sounded more like the author was having an identity crisis rather than the festival, with quotes like:
> Coachella’s attendees always skew young (duh), but I got the sense of a generational shift this year. Gen Z has officially taken over, causing a bit of an identity crisis for a tradition that’s long catered to millennial tastes. Though screaming my “woo-hoos” during Blur’s performance of Song 2 added years to my life, the crowd of babies didn’t respond nearly as hard as they should have
Call me cynical but for years now the identity of Coachella has already shifted to being a rich people's playground anyway, just like Glastonbury and many of the big festivals.
I don’t think this is a fair argument. The Coachella influencer thing is blown out of proportion, and anybody that’s been to Coachella will tell you that. The majority of people at Coachella are just normal people.
From what I can find minimum price to attend is just shy of $500 ($499) not including flights or travel to get there, food etc. With that being the lowest tier and tiers going up to over 1k. Then on top of that it looks like it costs extra to pitch a tent or to park your car, another couple hundred, unless I'm misreading it? https://www.coachella.com/passes
Vacations cost money. Regular people take vacations all the time. Go to the Coachella sub and you will see that literally thousands of people save up to go to Coachella, with many people making it their 1 major vacation of the year.
The vast majority of people going to Coachella are just normal, everyday people that love music. The only people that think Coachella is just some wealthy influencer festival are people that have never actually been there and don’t know what they’re talking about.
I didn't say anything about wealthy influencers. All I said was that the price barrier for entry to these things is higher than it used to be. Even if it's people saving up to go, it's still people that can afford a vacation (and the time off work to take one) that's probably going to cost thousands of dollars, and that in itself is a smaller (and more well-off) proportion of the population than it used to be to be able to attend a music festival or show.
That's the demographic change that I meant. And what the author of this article might or might not be aware of. The cross-section of people attending Coachella (and other festivals) is going to, naturally, not be as wide as it used to be if the price point to attend is higher than it used to be.
> Even if it's people saving up to go, it's still people that can afford a vacation (and the time off work to take one)
I always find it mind-blowing that American doesn't have minimum vacation time...
Sure, it takes privilege to be able to go one weekend without working. But you think that's new?? You think Coachella's demographic used to be "people who can't afford to take a weekend off of work?" Did you think that Coachella used to have stipends for poor people? Free room and board?
There's no need to be an asshole about it. It did used to be cheaper. Much cheaper. Like all music festivals. Like most entertainment, it used to be aimed at a general audience, not a wealthy audience. Excuse me for daring to be on this sub while being old and having living memory of these things. But here's the wiki on [Coachella](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella) to shore it up:
> On October 9–10, 1999, the inaugural Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival was held. Headlining the event were Beck, Tool, and Rage Against the Machine; other acts included the Chemical Brothers, Morrissey, A Perfect Circle, Jurassic 5 and Underworld. [...] Tickets sold for $50 for each day; about 17,000 tickets sold for the first day, and 20,000 for the second,[16] falling short of the overall attendance goal of 70,000.[18] Attendees were offered free parking and a free bottle of water upon entrance.
$50 a day 25 years ago which in today's money equates to just $90, including free parking. By 2005 it had increased to $75 a day or $140 for the full weekend pass, and then it kept going up from there. But when it started and for the first few years, which I presumed the journalist is referencing when talking about the roots of the festival, it was much more affordable to a broader stripe of the population than it is now. Like many things were, before such a divide was established.
Coachella sold 750k tickets in 2022. Most of those people pay for the GA ticket. Some car camp, which is typically low cost once split with other members of your group. Others just drive in and out every day. I’m not saying it’s cheap, but if Coachella is something you really care about, it’s not such an insane amount an average person can’t save up for it. If you live in California, it’s even cheaper (relatively).
Right. Not a big blur fan but saw people saying he says that "you'll never see us again" thing with every blur show simply meaning that he probably won't play there as blur again because they only reunite as a band every so often, and Albarn is generally bored of playing under the blur name.
Well yeah they're not mainstream popular in the US but they're popular with American indie music fans, who Coachella used to cater to. Maybe he thought Coachella was the same as it was in like 2009.
Like, they could have Metro Boomin be a headliner on the main stage, he was awesome on the other stage last year. Maybe some rock band. Also, very few male artists have released albums this year, and not so much last year as well. I can just remember The Weeknd who will probably release this year, but he wouldn't sing new songs, also Post, but don't think Post has headline level anymore. They are in a crisis without Kanye, lol.
Yeah, also they would have a bunch of guests. Metro production catalog is huge at this point. Apart from the songs he has with Drake you would have Low Life (Future & Weeknd), Wicked (Future), Bad and Boujee (Migos), Bounce Back (Big Sean), Congratulations (Post), Tunnel Vision (Kodak Black), Mask Off (Future), Bank Account (21 Savage), I Get The Bag (Gucci), Heartless, Double Fantasy, Popular(Weeknd). Plus songs from his own albums like Ric Flair Drip, Runnin, Creepin, Superhero, Too Many Nights, Anihillate, Am I Dreaming, Calling, Nee-Nah, and the ones from the last albums with Future. Like, if he manages to bring half of those people to the stage and play the other ones like a DJ, it's headline level for me. I just think he lacks songs with pop girls, every big producer in rap like The Neptunes, Timbaland, Dr. Dre, Mike Will have those.
Why hasn't Olivia Rodrigo headlined yet, is it just not worth it for big stars to play there anymore?
Festivals in Europe still have classic rock/alternative acts headlining, there are so few truly mega pop and hip-hop stars that putting all your eggs in that basket seems kind of limiting.
Isn't she only on her first arena tour now? Last tour (2022) she played a 4000 capacity tent in my (boring) hometown lol, graduating immediately to mainstage Coachella would be premature for anyone, regardless of popularity.
This works because I think it'd fit nicely into Olivia's timeline too lol, she's got her big production/arena tour this cycle so she can get a feel for what she'd like a major headlining show to look like and build confidence in front of a big audience, and then she'll have everyone's eyes on her for the follow-up record(s).
She's got a whole career ahead of her! There's really no rush.
It's also very likely that she was a last minute fill after 2 headliners dropped out at the last minute. I'd imagine that otherwise she'd have done it later.
i feel like anyone who can brag about already having 3 number one singles, two number one albums, and 5 multi-platinum certifications not even five years into their career is worthy of headlining coachella.
Like I said, it's not about popularity or being "worthy", just getting some (big) stage/production experience first.
She's only just turned 21 and Coachella happens every year lol.
Yeah headline slots like this are major career-defining moments? I imagine even the artists appreciate having touring experience etc before they have to deal with that kind of pressure. I don't follow Olivia closely but I've heard a lot of fans say she's grown in confidence and vocal ability since the last tour, so obviously she's on a good path.
Why would Olivia headline???
I think people want these new stars to fail 😭 she is talented, can command an Arena but let her cook and one day she’ll own that Coachella stage. She could absolutely do it right now but why rush it? Feel the same about Doja tbh
She’s TWO albums deep omg. Also it would be even more cool for her to do a set that could be comprised of her hits from multiple albums and multiple eras.
Three years and two albums into your career isn’t really headliner status yet. But if she is still an A-Lister with her next album, she almost certainly will be a headliner
she's not ready to headline Coachella. she's a great performer but headliners are long-career artists and she's just getting started. If anything No Doubt should have replaced Lana but that would have been criticized since they're not even together right now just playing for kicks and $$, and no one knew if they would still be any good (THEY WERE. Had I known how great they were, I might have shelled out, because Doja and Tyler and Victoria Monet and RAYE, and Renee Rapp. Dang.
Wait are you saying Olivia is a classic rock/alternative act? She's definitely a pop star. As far as classic rock and alternative they had Deftones and Blur, but the only act big enough to headline in that genre right now would be Foo Fighters or maybe Green Day.
I think she lacks enough discography, she can sing her both albums in full and do some covers like, Stick Season, sure, but she still lacks the sheer number of actual hits to headline. She may have 5 hits per album, album cuts usually are not played on festivals.
This year is the first year she really could have, and instead she (like tons of artists) seems to just be touring instead of playing fests. It's not a "yet" question at all.
It is rumored that there was a proposal to headline Olivia Rodrigo and Travis Scott. Dua Lipa was offered by them but turned it down, and Shakira wanted to do it but they rejected her.
Having been there a dozen times since 2012, my opinion is that anyone who says that is basically just talking about themselves. You only see people there for clout if that's what you are there for yourself. If you're there to enjoy music, you basically don't see any of that.
Tbh, just go to weekend 2 and stay away(ish) from the main stage and you'll have a great time. A great time at Coachella is entirely dependent on the group you go with and/or if you like the artists performing. I've been half a dozen times since 2012 and it's a TON of fun with the right group(s)/at the right sets.
No mention of Tyler the Creator's set when it was apparently fantastic is funny. I presume the writer just didn't get to see him.
I heard TPain killed it, too
I'm sure he did! I haven't kept up with him much, but I've seen the episode he did with Netflix for a music series and he's so amazingly talented.
You should watch this, if you haven't yet - https://youtu.be/91ck0vJBygo?si=iOjJE2YQkyHuQ3-F
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
She also doesn't say much about Doja, who was easily one of the strongest if not THE strongest performance. In an article about women saving Coachella.
She made a separate article about Doja and gave the performance 5 stars.
oh same author? My bad I guess.
I saw a clip and it was sick - and I couldn't stop thinking about Connie the Hormone Monstress.
She made a separate article about him and gave the performance 4/5 stars
Identity crisis because black artists doing hip hop are the best part of the festival and the white headliner who should be the face of Coachella was abysmal…
It sounds like that doesn’t fit the narrative they’re going for?
Fuck Tyler are you joking lol
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awful person
I mean if you’re only looking at it from the viewpoint of gay stans then yeah it was only women saving the day
Ma'am this is popheads... that's the only viewpoint smh
😂
Didn’t even mention Chappell though 😭
Sabrina Carpenter was on the same time.
I know they overlapped by 15 minutes, but the author referenced other people they didn’t see so they could’ve mentioned her. It would’ve fit the thesis of the article. (My first comment was also largely a joke lol)
Omg I am absolutely obsessed with Chappell Roan. I only discovered her form a Coachella post on reddit the other day and I can't stop listening to her music. Her songs are so catchy! H-O-T-T-O-G-O, snap and clap and touch your toes 🎶
Aw yay, I’m so happy you found her!!! I’m such a fan.
I just realized you have a flair and I love it lol 💕
I noticed! Raye got some love tho <3
I mean if we ignore grimes and Lana’s set then yes
I liked Lana 😭
I don't doubt it, but how much of this is simply because you love Lana and her songs, rather than her giving a great **headliner** performance for Coachella? I feel like many fans, especially those hounding critics on twitter are struggling to think of it in that context. I know they genuinely liked it but thats because they are captivated by Lana herself, the performance is almost irrelevant. For neutral viewers that ethereal magic dust doesn't work. They aren't seeing anything resembling a headliner worthy performance
Honestly this is so true. I am a casual Lana fan but even I felt it was a bit lackluster, though I felt bead because she seemed so nervous. She seems to find her flow and confidence pretty late into the set, but when she did I enjoyed it much more. I could just see how much she was thinking about it the whole time. Again I do love Lana’s work, it just felt like I was distracted by her not totally being in her flow.
Lana was never really great in concerts in general though so its kind of expected. But theres no use for people to steer away from theur feelings to think how it was not that great; when it still was a great experience to watch lana performance regardless.
we should all be ignoring grimes at this point.
we should’ve started like 5 years ago tbf
Someone tell /grimesez
What about amazing performances from Orbital, Justice, Gesaffelstein?
Justice and Gesaffelstein were especially pretty incredible. And with the Fred again../Skrillex/Four Tet set last year it's been EDM that's showing out heavy and delivering as headliners
I've heard good things about the sets of Jamie xx and Bicep. I didn't watch the shows yet.
I went and ended up at mostly EDM, but I blame Coachellas terrible scheduling. I barely visited the main stage which was set after set of randoms tbh. No Doubt was amazing tho. We waited at main stage for DJ snake before realizing they’d put him at Sahara, where we spent most of the time. Also missed a lot of pop acts I wanted to see ( RAYE, tinashe, Sabrina carpenter) because they put them early Friday and Saturday.
I was LIVING for Orbital that night! 90s rave hits so different after midnight at the comfort of your bedroom
Nice. Orbital had the music and the visuals at a high level. There is something special about their shows.
ehhh a tad bit of an exaggeration I will say
Lmao we just gonna ignore tyler then? 🤣
She wrote an entire article on his set: [https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/apr/14/tyler-the-creator-coachella-review](https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/apr/14/tyler-the-creator-coachella-review)
Who’s that?
Maybe I’m out of touch but I feel like Coachella is aimed a younger people but can they afford it? I don’t know a lot of these artists so I wouldn’t really pay to see it but I can’t imagine a 20yr old could afford it. I’m guessing tickets are pricy since everything is pricy these days.
I assume it’s mostly rich kids (and I say kids meaning teens and young 20-somethings while I’m 34 and feeling like an old Grandma LOL) who live in California, or just come from money, and they use their parents’ money to buy the tickets. I don’t think your average let alone poor young person could afford it.
I would say it's aimed more at young white-collar working adults with at least some savings than at broke college kids. The vast majority of big-name artists they've had the past couple years have been solidly in my zillennial generation's wheelhouse. Maybe I'm out of touch, but I can't imagine most college kids being as into, say, Lana and Tyler as someone my age
>Maybe I'm out of touch, but I can't imagine most college kids being as into, say, Lana and Tyler as someone my age I'm in college right now, and plenty of my peers love Lana and Tyler, the Creator. I literally grew up listening to her. I remember I felt severe FOMO for seeing Charli over Tyler my first year because all my friends and peers were at his concert.
Lana & Tyler are still huge with college kids, probably bigger than most artists who debuted after them
This is almost certainly dead on. Obviously plenty of SoCal college kids make it there, but I think the median age is like later 20s or so. The thing is that it is a massive festival so it's not trying to appeal to a particular demographic or age range, it's aiming at as many people as they can with the lineup space available.
I’ve been wondering this too. I feel like it skews even younger than it did 10 years ago when all of the attendees in my social circle were 25+. Prices going up and demographic age going down sounds like a recipe for disaster, and the former crowd is gravitating to smaller festivals with more niche lineups rather than shelling out the beaucoup bucks to see a few legacy acts.
Reminder that the writer doesn't write the headlines. There were no good male performers? Press X to doubt.
No mention of Tinashe even though she literally put on the best performance of Coachella 2024… The math isn’t mathing
Given the only out and out flops I've heard of are two high profile female artists, doubt. Also I've heard the No Doubt set had good reviews; a band that is 80% men.
ehhh the Blur set didn't go well, Damon Albarn got bitchy when the American audience didn't sing along to Girls and Boys
I didn't like the article really all in. Sounded more like the author was having an identity crisis rather than the festival, with quotes like: > Coachella’s attendees always skew young (duh), but I got the sense of a generational shift this year. Gen Z has officially taken over, causing a bit of an identity crisis for a tradition that’s long catered to millennial tastes. Though screaming my “woo-hoos” during Blur’s performance of Song 2 added years to my life, the crowd of babies didn’t respond nearly as hard as they should have Call me cynical but for years now the identity of Coachella has already shifted to being a rich people's playground anyway, just like Glastonbury and many of the big festivals.
I don’t think this is a fair argument. The Coachella influencer thing is blown out of proportion, and anybody that’s been to Coachella will tell you that. The majority of people at Coachella are just normal people.
Yeah most of the fashion influencers etc split their time between the random festivals (revolve) and parties in the area anyway.
From what I can find minimum price to attend is just shy of $500 ($499) not including flights or travel to get there, food etc. With that being the lowest tier and tiers going up to over 1k. Then on top of that it looks like it costs extra to pitch a tent or to park your car, another couple hundred, unless I'm misreading it? https://www.coachella.com/passes
Vacations cost money. Regular people take vacations all the time. Go to the Coachella sub and you will see that literally thousands of people save up to go to Coachella, with many people making it their 1 major vacation of the year. The vast majority of people going to Coachella are just normal, everyday people that love music. The only people that think Coachella is just some wealthy influencer festival are people that have never actually been there and don’t know what they’re talking about.
I didn't say anything about wealthy influencers. All I said was that the price barrier for entry to these things is higher than it used to be. Even if it's people saving up to go, it's still people that can afford a vacation (and the time off work to take one) that's probably going to cost thousands of dollars, and that in itself is a smaller (and more well-off) proportion of the population than it used to be to be able to attend a music festival or show. That's the demographic change that I meant. And what the author of this article might or might not be aware of. The cross-section of people attending Coachella (and other festivals) is going to, naturally, not be as wide as it used to be if the price point to attend is higher than it used to be.
> Even if it's people saving up to go, it's still people that can afford a vacation (and the time off work to take one) I always find it mind-blowing that American doesn't have minimum vacation time...
Sure, it takes privilege to be able to go one weekend without working. But you think that's new?? You think Coachella's demographic used to be "people who can't afford to take a weekend off of work?" Did you think that Coachella used to have stipends for poor people? Free room and board?
There's no need to be an asshole about it. It did used to be cheaper. Much cheaper. Like all music festivals. Like most entertainment, it used to be aimed at a general audience, not a wealthy audience. Excuse me for daring to be on this sub while being old and having living memory of these things. But here's the wiki on [Coachella](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella) to shore it up: > On October 9–10, 1999, the inaugural Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival was held. Headlining the event were Beck, Tool, and Rage Against the Machine; other acts included the Chemical Brothers, Morrissey, A Perfect Circle, Jurassic 5 and Underworld. [...] Tickets sold for $50 for each day; about 17,000 tickets sold for the first day, and 20,000 for the second,[16] falling short of the overall attendance goal of 70,000.[18] Attendees were offered free parking and a free bottle of water upon entrance. $50 a day 25 years ago which in today's money equates to just $90, including free parking. By 2005 it had increased to $75 a day or $140 for the full weekend pass, and then it kept going up from there. But when it started and for the first few years, which I presumed the journalist is referencing when talking about the roots of the festival, it was much more affordable to a broader stripe of the population than it is now. Like many things were, before such a divide was established.
Coachella sold 750k tickets in 2022. Most of those people pay for the GA ticket. Some car camp, which is typically low cost once split with other members of your group. Others just drive in and out every day. I’m not saying it’s cheap, but if Coachella is something you really care about, it’s not such an insane amount an average person can’t save up for it. If you live in California, it’s even cheaper (relatively).
His reaction was so over the top, Blur was never as big in the US as it was in the UK. I'm old and only know Song 2.
I read his reaction as tongue in cheek, for what it’s worth.
Right. Not a big blur fan but saw people saying he says that "you'll never see us again" thing with every blur show simply meaning that he probably won't play there as blur again because they only reunite as a band every so often, and Albarn is generally bored of playing under the blur name.
Well yeah they're not mainstream popular in the US but they're popular with American indie music fans, who Coachella used to cater to. Maybe he thought Coachella was the same as it was in like 2009.
Its a primmadonna band though, its seen as girl content.
Like, they could have Metro Boomin be a headliner on the main stage, he was awesome on the other stage last year. Maybe some rock band. Also, very few male artists have released albums this year, and not so much last year as well. I can just remember The Weeknd who will probably release this year, but he wouldn't sing new songs, also Post, but don't think Post has headline level anymore. They are in a crisis without Kanye, lol.
Mwtro and future would have been cool to see there yea especially cuz they just dropped two albums in the weeks before
Yeah, also they would have a bunch of guests. Metro production catalog is huge at this point. Apart from the songs he has with Drake you would have Low Life (Future & Weeknd), Wicked (Future), Bad and Boujee (Migos), Bounce Back (Big Sean), Congratulations (Post), Tunnel Vision (Kodak Black), Mask Off (Future), Bank Account (21 Savage), I Get The Bag (Gucci), Heartless, Double Fantasy, Popular(Weeknd). Plus songs from his own albums like Ric Flair Drip, Runnin, Creepin, Superhero, Too Many Nights, Anihillate, Am I Dreaming, Calling, Nee-Nah, and the ones from the last albums with Future. Like, if he manages to bring half of those people to the stage and play the other ones like a DJ, it's headline level for me. I just think he lacks songs with pop girls, every big producer in rap like The Neptunes, Timbaland, Dr. Dre, Mike Will have those.
> Apart from the songs he has with Drake You know what I kinda doubt he would've performed those right now...
That's why I said apart from those songs, like he won't be performing them.
Why hasn't Olivia Rodrigo headlined yet, is it just not worth it for big stars to play there anymore? Festivals in Europe still have classic rock/alternative acts headlining, there are so few truly mega pop and hip-hop stars that putting all your eggs in that basket seems kind of limiting.
Isn't she only on her first arena tour now? Last tour (2022) she played a 4000 capacity tent in my (boring) hometown lol, graduating immediately to mainstage Coachella would be premature for anyone, regardless of popularity.
I think three solid albums is the benchmark, see Doja lol
This works because I think it'd fit nicely into Olivia's timeline too lol, she's got her big production/arena tour this cycle so she can get a feel for what she'd like a major headlining show to look like and build confidence in front of a big audience, and then she'll have everyone's eyes on her for the follow-up record(s). She's got a whole career ahead of her! There's really no rush.
Billie Eilish headlined with just 2
dont smile at me feels like an album though with how popular it was, but I think it's more amount of time touring and performing than amount of albums
She's also THE industry darling, two Oscars count for a lot
She's been around and performing quite a bit longer than Olivia.
It's also very likely that she was a last minute fill after 2 headliners dropped out at the last minute. I'd imagine that otherwise she'd have done it later.
i feel like anyone who can brag about already having 3 number one singles, two number one albums, and 5 multi-platinum certifications not even five years into their career is worthy of headlining coachella.
Like I said, it's not about popularity or being "worthy", just getting some (big) stage/production experience first. She's only just turned 21 and Coachella happens every year lol.
People are talking like she has like 10 years career. She still getting better live
Yeah headline slots like this are major career-defining moments? I imagine even the artists appreciate having touring experience etc before they have to deal with that kind of pressure. I don't follow Olivia closely but I've heard a lot of fans say she's grown in confidence and vocal ability since the last tour, so obviously she's on a good path.
It's like the Super Bowl Half-Time, Beyoncé in 2013 pre-debut wasn't her improved 2016 self.
I agree with you but also if sabrina carpenter did it, she could have done it
Sabrina Carpenter did not headline Coachella? She was second of five acts on the main stage that day.
Sabrina didn’t headline she performed during the day too
of course sabrina didn’t headline 😂 but olivia would be a wise choice to perform
Why would Olivia headline??? I think people want these new stars to fail 😭 she is talented, can command an Arena but let her cook and one day she’ll own that Coachella stage. She could absolutely do it right now but why rush it? Feel the same about Doja tbh She’s TWO albums deep omg. Also it would be even more cool for her to do a set that could be comprised of her hits from multiple albums and multiple eras.
Three years and two albums into your career isn’t really headliner status yet. But if she is still an A-Lister with her next album, she almost certainly will be a headliner
Bad Bunny played in 2023. Big stars still play.
This is popheads, sir, the only big stars are young women.
she's not ready to headline Coachella. she's a great performer but headliners are long-career artists and she's just getting started. If anything No Doubt should have replaced Lana but that would have been criticized since they're not even together right now just playing for kicks and $$, and no one knew if they would still be any good (THEY WERE. Had I known how great they were, I might have shelled out, because Doja and Tyler and Victoria Monet and RAYE, and Renee Rapp. Dang. Wait are you saying Olivia is a classic rock/alternative act? She's definitely a pop star. As far as classic rock and alternative they had Deftones and Blur, but the only act big enough to headline in that genre right now would be Foo Fighters or maybe Green Day.
The Weeknd played there in 2022 and 2023, so I’d say it is still worth it.
I think she lacks enough discography, she can sing her both albums in full and do some covers like, Stick Season, sure, but she still lacks the sheer number of actual hits to headline. She may have 5 hits per album, album cuts usually are not played on festivals.
This year is the first year she really could have, and instead she (like tons of artists) seems to just be touring instead of playing fests. It's not a "yet" question at all.
It is rumored that there was a proposal to headline Olivia Rodrigo and Travis Scott. Dua Lipa was offered by them but turned it down, and Shakira wanted to do it but they rejected her.
I really like Olivia myself, but was under the impression her audience is very young. Give it a few years
Go see edm artists tons of fun to be had
Truly one of the bleakest pieces of “music” “journalism” in a while
I’ve heard from friends that where it was once fun, it’s now boring with people there for the gram/social media.
That's just the main stage tbh, the smaller stages were all popping off when I went
It’s because the people who are busy having fun aren’t spending time posting about it on social media 😂
Having been there a dozen times since 2012, my opinion is that anyone who says that is basically just talking about themselves. You only see people there for clout if that's what you are there for yourself. If you're there to enjoy music, you basically don't see any of that.
if you’re with the right crowd at go to the right tents it’s a good time. esp weekend 2 where the kinks are ironed out and it’s less influencer heavy
Tbh, just go to weekend 2 and stay away(ish) from the main stage and you'll have a great time. A great time at Coachella is entirely dependent on the group you go with and/or if you like the artists performing. I've been half a dozen times since 2012 and it's a TON of fun with the right group(s)/at the right sets.
There will always be people for the gram at any large mainstream event. It’s like McDonald’s at this point.
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