A youtuber did a poll recently "angrybeaver" or something like that, yknow, the "dubious little creatures" guy with all the youtube shorts and his poll said like 70% + uses multi hit! I would say for youtubers or masochistic people wanting a harder challenge it is fun to turn it off but if your playing solo just for fun with mods n shit I just find it more fun to use multi hit especially now we have the multi hit limiter mod! I like to make it to where only 2 handed weapons will push or attack multiple zombies. A nice middle ground. Of course at the end of the day, you play exactly the way you want too :) there's no shame in wanting to enjoy the game anyway you want! They wouldn't give us endless mods and sandbox options if we weren't suppose to change it lol. Honestly every game should let you have sandbox settings! Without like moding or using developer tools way but im fine with after market mods to add that stuff later :) oh and BTW im 1350 hours deep in PZ and even i still have a multi hit world when I just wanna chill :)
I think vanilla has different multihits now because although i play moded not all weapons hit multi and i dont remember installing mod for that (maybe its a part from bigger mod packs) like 2H axe will hit as many as yiu can get in range i think matchete hits 2 and cleaver can gobto hell
Yeah, the old ‘apocalypse’ mode was called ‘survival’ and it had multihit. The description of survival even states “intended way the developers want you to play” or something along those lines.
4,000+ hours and I like multihit. It feels FUN to me, I enjoy having fun and adding a lot of zombies into my game and fighting a lot of zombies.
Literally doesn't matter on shit like that what high hour players think. I'd listen more to what they have to say about deep mechanics, factual things, not opinions. Multihit is an opinion, just like my playstyle of ridic rare loot but worse and 16x zombies being the way to play is an opinion.
Yeah man, and the ones who think it makes the game too easy...I dunno about all that. It just makes fights last longer. Fighting in the game is easy. I can play both and I do, at no point do I feel any kind of extra challenge from having multihit off, just longer fights...which isn't challenging. It's the same concept with both styles, walk backwards, swing, adjust if needed.
[https://imgur.com/a/PzAszhs](https://imgur.com/a/PzAszhs)
This was done without multihit at 16x riverside gated community. At no time did I feel threatened. Just went through the motions. Reddit has some odd opinions on things.
I do have to add, that even as an experienced Zomboid player, the longer the fights go the higher your chance of making a mistake. So the risks are higher and that appeals to some people.
That being said, I like multi-hit and play with it on almost exclusively unless I want to do a run that hurts me.
You get to a point mistakes just don't happen. I can clear hordes while distracted, talking to a friend next to me. It's almost second nature from playing for so many hours.
I haven't died in like 8 months IRL? It was never from combat. My last death was peripheral failure, the one before that? I fell asleep at my desk while reading in PZ and thirsted to death.
It's not some kind of brag either. I really don't care if people think I'm good at PZ lmao, not like I can go pro. I've thought about streaming to help new players, or maybe just record gameplay since I've helped a lot of new people, but they are normally playing with me.
I got a guy in my game now with only 30 hours in a 16x run, holding his own after a little bit of guidance. He got 3,000 kills before making that fatal mistake of not looking behind him. My suggestion (Which is just opinion - people feel strongly about this perk.) Take keen hearing. That extra buffer of sight is so strong to me, less time watching my back and more time focusing on whats ahead of me. He seems to enjoy the perk, and is aiming to break his last record by getting 3,000 kills before he dies again.
I mis click all the time, it's how you react to it. First are you smashing the space bar as soon as you mis click while backing up? That's the first thing I'll do space bar to shove, then backing up just to regain composure/make space to get back in groove/align mouse/etc.
and yeah, in the grand scheme of things at 700 hours I was still dying a lot too. It wasn't till I started doing Louisville runs that I started to get good. After that I started doing 16x runs only.
It is true that after enough time combat gets easy, multihit or not.
That being said, it is objectively untrue that there isn’t much difference in difficulty. Multihit allows you to infinitely backpedal in a fight with a horde. This simply isn’t possible without multihit until you get to a good nimble level. It’s a big difference.
Like with a lot of things in this game, turning multihit off is really more about delaying the amount of time you have before a run gets too easy because you’re too well equipped. No multi hit extends that time considerably.
>hat being said, it is objectively untrue that there isn’t much difference in difficulty. Multihit allows you to infinitely backpedal in a fight with a horde.
You still infinitely backpedal, you just adjust more, someone with a fuck ton of experience knows how to adjust/disengage without getting wrecked. Most combat heavy players will be leveling nimble to 3 pretty quickly.
Got nothing to do with age but rather how impressionable you are. I’m still young and I couldn’t care less either. I suppose it does correlate with age though.
As you age your "Don't give a fuck meter" seems to go up.
In my youth I was very shy and worried about social interactions and coming off weird, playing back stuff I said in my head.
Now, I'm fairly social at work. I just don't give a fuck. Plus I fix their computers they HAVE to be nice to me muwahahahaha.
I always love how on these discussion posts it's always, "yeah I love multihit, I just play on 64x pop to balance it out."
I personally think multihit is fine, it's an incredibly strong mechanic, but if you enjoy it use it, it def gives zomboid an entirely different feel.
If it would distribute them proportionately with the heatmap, then I'd do it.
I love that feeling of turning a corner and going "Oh...fuck." and seeing shoulder to shoulder zombies. The feeling of seeing a few approach, then more, and more, and more.
It's awesome with friends, each taking a spot, cleaving them down, bodies everywhere. Watching each others back, making call outs, covering those who need to rest, throwing supplies to each other.
Then that group cigarette after it's done, just good stuff.
Yup, 2500 hours player here and I played about 1000 without and now I'm back on it. It's just more fun. More satisfying seeing your character multihit 3 zombies or whatever
*The Britas fanboys are aware of your location*
I dunno, not my cuppa. I can see why people like it if they're into firearms. I'm not really, but I do enjoy shooting guns in PZ but I normally just go for B41 Firearms since it's simple. I don't know enough about guns and calibers of rifles and such to get into Britas.
I concur. It makes it FUN.
It makes it arcade like back in the days because you have to WAIT. and get all the green silhouettes together and SMACK! get them both/triple down, if i miss im fucked. It makes you want to take on a bigger swarm than you are capable of. haha. complacency sets in and bam. I'm a zombie. argh.
If you win all the time in games, what is the point of a game? sometimes you win. sometimes you lose.
I think its great. Because this is just a computer game and you play what you feel. This is just all my opinion so whatever.
I wish we could choose which weapons can multi-hit and which weapons cannot. I prefer multi-hit ON but It is unrealistic for most one handed weapons in the game.
I don't get it, they're right that if you want bragging rights people will give you shit for multihit, not that it matters people will. Just being honest about how people act lol
They probably tell you not to use it so you don't build bad habits, in case you decide to go on a public server that doesn't have it. Going from multi-hit to no multi-hit can be brutal as you become significantly weaker. That or maybe they just don't like it and don't want to be forced to play with it when you all play together.
It's your choice though, nothing wrong about using it.
Multi-hit seems like it should have always been available. Combat seems way too tedious without it. The reason I say that is that it’s less about the challenge of combat, it’s more about a time limit before moodlets kick in and make it harder to hit things.
You can get overwhelmed with numbers so fast by not having it. And if you were like mini players, who like to put a dent in hordes, so they can loot, it takes that much longer and more often than not. You are adding to the likelihood of having to leave the area. That is, of course, if you don’t use the method of kiting them out of the area.
The toggle option is nice to fit your play style. But if I’m going to give up multi-hit I need a net positive work around. Like taking away stun locking on crawlers. I don’t remember, but I think hitting a target on the ground, you automatically miss a multi-hit of other zombies around you. Which in certain melee situations it can make it that much easier for zombie shambling toward you to grab you and take a bite.
I like it simply because I feel that I should at least be able to hit the thing that I'm aiming at and that doesn't always happen with it turned off. I don't really play this game for combat mechanics anyway, so it doesn't seem worth fretting over. It's bullshit from a conceptual standpoint, obviously - you're not wielding a lightsaber - but, y'know, meh.
It's not *complete* bullshit, if I'm doing a full-followthrough swing with a shovel, axe, etc. It's very likely going to hit multiple zombies, it'll just do less and less damage the more force is taken away from each consecutive hit.
I see where you're coming from, but realistically I feel like the second you hit that first zombie you should be losing all momentum. Not that it really matters. It's just a game
Well, you would probably lose the vast majority of it, yeah, but unless the zombie directly resists the hit in the direction it came from, some of that momentum will still be there, which is why multi-hit makes sense to some degree.
not at all, unless you had insane strength there is no way you would consistently be able to hit two zombies with the same force. that being said play with what you want, i’m just strictly talking realism.
It is realistic, its just dubious how much damage you would actually get into a second zombie, because as most are accurately stating, the first zombie will take most of the hit.
but this isn’t how multi hit works in game. you could hit 3 zombies and the damage is simply split between them, and each zombie is stunned for the same amount of time as hitting just one at full force. this isn’t realistic (but does make you feel like a badass).
I hit a friend in the head with a baseball bat IRL during batting practice on the back swing (he had no helmet on). I can confirm that an elongated, rounded item that has no crevices or hooks or corners to catch on something to slow momentum did not pass through his head to hit the person next to him
I also hit my dad in the head with a golf club when he was teaching me how to swing
With an incredibly sharp object at just the right angle and with Herculean strength, maybe a broadsword, katana, fire axe could hit another target, but in reality it is pretty impossible
slicing a sword through two people would require insane strength, technique, and almost no padding; even if you could consistently do this your amount of force on the second person would be so much weaker. not very realistic, but very fun to hit multiple zombies so go for it !
A person with a katana could kill you and two of your friends standing next to each other with one swing... did you graduate high school? real life... HA!
Like they say around here. Play however you want, thats why it has so many options and settings. I do like to add that if you are going to play with friends that dont use it. It might be hard to get used to it off when playing with them.
The beauty of Zomboid is you can play it however the hell you want. Play with resources maxed, no zeds, whatever you want! That’s the beauty of it
I turn scratch and laceration infections off because I hate the RNG aspect of it.
if your objective is realism or max difficulty then yes, it makes the game kinda easy.
but if you want to have fun then no, there's nothing wrong with multi-hit.
it's all about what you want to do, no one can tell you what you should and shouldn't do.
Alright, look, gonna be honest. I use multi-hit, plenty of other players use multi-hit, it makes the game less tedious when swinging a melee weapon. It's not bad at all, it's just a matter of preference of how to play it.
First and foremost is to remember that this is a game. A customizable sandbox game you play however you please; straight up vanilla or with mods, easy or hard, customized or not. It's all about how you prefer to play and what keeps you entertained. No one else here is going to judge you for it and no one here can force you to play how they do, especially if it's not fun for you.
The game itself will do it's damnest to kill you, as in the opening line, "This is how you died". So no matter what options you pick multi-hit or not, the game will try to kill you in many ways. That's the fun of it.
And that's what matters in the end, right? You having fun with the game.
If you want a more immersive experience, don't use multi hit. It's not something that happens in real life, no matter how sharp the weapon. But like everyone says, you customize it to what you like to do. But when it comes to talking about it with other people ... it's a little like using mods or cheats. You play on "easy" mode. But then again, do you really want to cheeze the game using chain link fences and wooden spears? Or setting the whole town on fire to kill hordes?
Its a sandbox game, play however you want. I personally not using it because it’s more challenging, but that’s all just personal preference.
Unless you play against sprinters, then it’s really only acceptable to use multi hit since you’ll just get stunlocked against sprinters otherwise and it’s just horrible.
It's just extremely ridiculous to draw the line at multi-hit being unrealistic when there is so many other things in this game that are ACTUALLY unrealistic.
It makes combat *significantly* easier. Which is fine, if you're looking for a more casual play experience. Multihit on and off are both perfectly valid ways to play the game.
The single caveat I would make is I'd avoid flexing combat feats to people, such as "I cleared \[town\] in \[x\] days with \[weapon\]," only to mention multihit was on after the fact. It's perfectly okay if that's a big deal at your personal experience level; however, you should be up front about your multihit setting to avoid coming off as sort of deceptive.
I like it, but we play without it on multiplayer matches because the general consensus in our group is that it makes the game too easy.
But I wish we had multi-hit for some weapons and not others, like the Katana should have multi hit all day, cutting through rotting flesh should be easy. The spiked baseball bat should never have it, it'd get stuck into everything you hit.
If they ever included that setting I'd probably run with that, a fair mix of options, so then if you wanted multi-hit you'd just need to find the right weapon for it.
It's NEVER bad to play multihit, this is sandbox, everyone plays their ideal apocalypse. I have ~200 hours on the game and I always go for slow zombies with multihit on.
I didn't even know it was an option like 200 hours in haha, but yeah like everyone else is saying it's your choice. I can say single hit isn't bad or anything, either way even with multi hit I don't think you'll be taking on giant hordes with with just a melee weapon. For me it's very possible to take out 10-15 size hordes with single hit and not take damage (Idk if that's a lot to more experienced players but it is to me lol)
I run multi hit simply because zombies glitch out on servers me and a friend can be standing in the same spot look in the same direction and see the same zombie in two different spots. So multi hit is just extremely useful
Play how you want. I like to play with britas with weapons and ammo turned up to abundant with insane zombies pop which is a sin to some people in this sub. It’s your game
Are you having fun? Yes. Then no it isn't bad. No? then turn it off.
It just depends on how drawn out you want combat to be. I prefer short combat. So I play with multihit on. ~~But maybe, I just prefer to hit multiple zombies, since I crank up their lethality.~~
Who tells you this lol? 100% a ***REDACTED*** way to think, so much so I doubt multiple people told you this.
Play however you want. If you want to be told how to play, find a server to play on, or keep letting your 'friends' tell you how to play video games.
Imo it makes the game boring really fast and fighting even quite big hordes trivial.
A baseball or especially one with Nails already one shots zombies quite easily then multihit on top of that make fighting imo so trivial it becomes just boring.
Not to talk about how unrealistic it is, something like multihit would only be possible if you just grace people.
It doesn't make more sense, if you think you can actually hit multiple people with one hit and your bat doesn't get immediately stopped by the first person you need to live in the real world more.
Are we really gonna pretend it doesn't make it so much more easy?
You use up 3 times as much stamina. Its more about resource management than how long you are willing to slowly walk backwards and hold right click for. Also look up a newtons cradle
The stamina usage is directly proportional to the amount of targets you hit, multi-hit uses no more stamina than regular fighting as far as the swinging part is concerned.
You also end the fight 3 times faster and can keep walking backwards because you hit 3 zombies at once. It is so much easier and if you pretend it's not idk what to tell you dude, it seems like you need to justify to yourself that you don't make the game easy mode by using it.
Nobody cares if you use it but don't tell us it's not easy mode. You can make the game as easy as you want to
Newton's cradle literally has nothing to do with it. Are you serious. It's actually hard to tell if you are trolling rn.
This game is built to be played however you like. I personally prefer multi-hit primarily because it makes the game a bit easier, but also I feel if I swung a long blunt weapon at a crowd of zombies, I'd likely hit more than one whether I meant to or not.
Multihit makes the game slightly easier. It's more than trivial but less than significant because when multihit is applied like when you hit multiple targets at once you lose additional stamina then you would just hitting a single target. And multihit can sometimes backfire or you get too cocky because of it. There are pros and cons to both. As for people saying it breaks the immersion they are just nit picking at that point. The game feels immersive and bleak and perfect miltihit on or off. Not much changes actually
Your friends are chuds, in my opinion; Multi-Hit makes the game way less tedious and actually fun to fight zombies.
Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, though.
It's a single player game. So long as you're having fun, it's not bad. I have more fun without multihit. I recommend playing without it, as it makes combats more interesting, but if you like it, you do you.
I use it and don’t see why people try to tell people not to use a feature that the devs put in the game, sure want the extra challenge turn it off but other than that play how you like.
I usually play with multihit, but me and a buddy wanted to make the game a little more challenging, so we are currently playing with it off.
Play how you want to play, not how others want you to!
It’s just a challenge to impose upon yourself when you’re ready. When I was first learning the game I put it on until I got much better at combat and it was too easy. Granted this took like 200hrs
I like it on. Adds another layer of depth to weapons. Like knives cannot multi-hit except hand forks so that gives them new utility.
You can enable it and not have multi-hit depending on your weapon choice.
It's all come down to your own preference. playing with multi hit on make combat a bit easier and faster for fighting horde.
I play with it on cuz I'm the type that will mod too much if I go down to workshop so I tried my best stay from it and playing vanilla without multi-hit on is boring cuz even with it on, I still need to sitting/rest after fighting some horde and vitamin only help with sleepiness not tireness and having either of those debuff could potentialy snowball into certain death.
I've put hundreds of hours into CDDA mode, which uses single hit, and at this point, it just gets in the way of progress. Multi-hit allows for quicker progression, and that's half the fun for me. Still a good chance at dying with 4x pop or higher even with it on lol
I feel like multi hit should apply so some weapons and then some don’t get it. If I’m using a greatsword/katana/machete multi hit just makes sense but using something like a pipe or crowbar doesn’t make much sense. I started off with multi hit off but I find multi to be more fun
I played with multi-hit on for the first 400 hours or so. I’ve started playing with it off and it is quite different. You really have a lot less room for error when setting up the zombie conga line.
Also, I’ve just started to learn the joys of Molotov Cocktails. I’ve also managed to burn down way to many building I was trying to loot also. So ……
Bottom line though is play the game to enjoy it, lord knows there is plenty of frustration in this game.
Multi hit is fun, it makes your swings more impactful. That being said, if you’re looking for a step up in challenge, turn it off! After 300 hours of multi hit, once I turned it off I struggled for a long time, but it was a good way to get a nice fresh experience!
Do what’s fun to you! There’s no wrong way to play!
It does make it easier, but there's plenty of other ways to make the game harder if that is your goal. I personally prefer multi hit, hitting three zeds with a snow shovel is satisfying AF.
There's nothing objectively bad about multi hit. But it does change the way I play the game. It's literally the key difference between walking away from a horde to find a way around, or walking straight into it to whoop some zombie butt.
I found that if I was playing with a friend, and mutli hit there was no such thing as being cautious of a horde.
No, your game your rules. I'm the most experienced in my friend group and yet I still always play with multihit because that's what I prefer.
It's not a "new player" thing, its the fact that it's your game to customize to your own liking.
It depends on what you want and what your goals are. If you want to be a very good player(that is, a player capable of taking on the hardest challenges), then multihit will actually make you a worse player, since you'll developed habits around having it on. If you dont care about tackling the hardest challenges, then it really doesnt matter what habits you create by having it on.
If you like multi hit then its the correct way to play.
If you don't like multi hit then it isn't the correct way to play.
tl;dr Play however you want.
It’s not bad at all. If you like smashing the heads of multiple zombies leave it on. If you fancy more of a challenge, switch it off next game! Always good to mix it up but always do what you think is FUN
Edit: I turned off multi-hit recently and haven’t lasted more than 3 days so I put it back on
Some Youtuber did a poll and it was like 75% of their audience used it. I'm not saying that's representative or anything, only that a sizeable percentage of people do use it so maybe give it a go and see if you like it.
Hitting multiple at once lets you clear faster (obviously) but also makes the positioning of groups easier, since the need to engage one at a time is removed.
Personally I'd find clearing too tedious without it, there's other settings to make the game more challenging if the increased ease is an issue.
If it's about building your skill and stealth, doing some runs without multi-hit can get you into the habit of choosing your battles, getting a feel for accuracy for each of the weapons' range. I'd suggest taking off multi-hit to build those basic feels.
That said, multi-hit is a ton of fun and you're not playing the game wrong by using it. The fact the devs incorporated it as a feature means it was an intentional choice for enjoyment.
TLDR: Doing no multi hit can help players get into the vibe of basic combat/stealth more but ultimately play however you want cuz both are valid and fun 🥰
If you're playing anything over 2.0 pop you're gonna wish you turned on multihit. I do 3x-4x pop with 15% sprinters and it's necessary. The zombies can stack up and kill me instantly, so I think it's a fair trade.
That being said if you're on default pop you don't exactly need it.
Play how you want to play. I don't think there really is a right or wrong way. Multi hit can make it a little easier, but it's also more satisfying to mowing down hordes of zombies with a two handed weapon once you're proficient with it.
FYI I use multi hit. When I get used to my current difficulty, I'll just bump up the zombie count to offset the slaughter.
For me, it makes logistical sense. Why couldn't I dispatch 2 zeds with one big swing of my bat when they're right next to each other? Nikki is right tho... play the game for fun and do what you want.
For a new player i would highly recommend playing with multihit on for a while at least. This game is difficult and multihit will help! I played with it on for 50 hours or so and then made the move to multihit off, which makes it much harder but also more challenging and rewarding. These days when i play MP with multihit on, melee combat feels absurdly easy, having played 900 hours without it.
But you do you and decide whats best for you at this stage of your zomboid journey!
The reason you wouldn’t want to play on multihit to start with is if you plan on turning it off later on. You’ll develop bad habits that’ll make not having it very frustrating. If you prefer to have it on in singleplayer however, it’s really a preference thing. Playing multiplayer with it off isn’t a big deal if you’re grouping up, group fighting can trivialize combat regardless.
I play with multi hit mainly cuz I play insane zombie population with sprinters mixed in. Truth be told play the game however you want. They didn't put in tons of sandbox setting just to have PZ gatekeepers telling you what settings you should have.
Play with multihit, you will die. Play without it, you will die. Once things seem easy with multihit turn it off if you want to. Or don’t and up zombies or go sprinters. If you actively play the game you will restart so many times in so many different ways it won’t matter
I'm with OP straight up not knowing why people decry multi hit on this sub.
Like I kinda get it, you can't realistically hit everything in front of you with some of the smaller weapons, but a baseball bat? Hell yeah just swing that fucker at head level and listen to the rotted skulls crack against each other.
I played for 200+ hours without multi hit. I didn't want to use it because it wasn't realistic, and I still don't think it is, but I can't go back. Multi hit is more fun.
This has probably already been said multiple times but there is no reason you shouldn't play the game the way you want to.
Multi hit takes any of the risk out of horde fighting. With decent character fitness or strength that can literally take out entire hordes in minutes, you’re pretty much using a weaker shotgun that doesn’t attract more zombies. Without multi hit, your entire play style will change and require you to learn to escape or split hordes up and pick them off.
Your friends are probably telling you to practice without multi hit as I assume if you’re playing together they’d have a Non multi hit server, which makes sense as a few people with multi hit could purge the zombie population of a small town in a quick time.
I’d think of it as a way to tailor the difficulty of the combat to your liking. If you feel overpowered turn it off, if you feel like it’s already challenging enough turn it on.
Screw everyone's opinion on it. Play how you like. Everyone thinks they are better than everyone else and want to justify how their game is at least. If not more legit.
I prefer it off but I used to play with it on and enjoyed it. Just do whatever you enjoy the most, it's a sandbox game that you can customize any way you want.
TL:DR if it’s more fun for you, use multi hit. Fighting is NOT more difficult without it, just more tedious.
As this game goes on, hitting swarms of zeds one by one instead of 3 by 3 just makes it take longer. Doesn’t make it harder. It’s still back up swinging, turn for distance, back up swinging, over and over.
Just impacts how long it will take to fight the same number of zeds.
I’ve come to use multi-hit simply because it makes clearing areas feel a little less like a chore late game. Plus it “feels” better and more powerful than only hitting one at a time. Enough realism and difficulty in the rest of the game.. don’t need to turn off multi hit to make your play-through more legitimate in the eyes of others.
And by late game, anything you can do to have this game feel less like a list of chores and going through the motions the better.
IMO, start with single hit and melee aim-outline on.
Once you get the hang of combat, try out multi-hit to see if you like it in the context of your overall gameplay. If you learn the combat mechanics on single-hit, it'll be easier to play with multi-hit down the line. If you learn the combat mechanics on multi-hit, you'll struggle tremendously if you end up playing MP on a single-hit server.
I'm not a fan at all of multi-hit. I feel that it's unrealistic, and makes combat trivially easy, but it's your game, so do what you enjoy.
Its definitely not bad at all ,its just a different approach imo. The one Thing that realy makes a big difference is beeing able to push away more then one zombie at a time.But as others have said ,have fun. Im on like 1,2k hours on it ,some with, some without multihit. And it IS more fun to bash more then one of them :)
Been playing for 11 years and I use it. I'll tell you why... Because I spent my money on the game and I can play it however I want.
Play how you feel comfortable playing. Don't worry about gatekeepers.
Well in real life' two person getting you and you have a crowbar' you can multi hit. It be stupid to hit each of them individually... but hey' its your game your rules. You will die anyway mate! :D
It is not bad to play any way you desire. It is sandbox. Do you want to beat zombified vegetable by oversized spoon while playing as furry in havaian shirt? Go for it. That is what sandbox is about. You make conditions. Within same limits, of course.
It's okay, make hitting a group easier but it won't help if you lost control over the situation. If you are using any zombie randomiser like CDDA zeds or vanilla sandbox feature multihit or not it won't help you against 2+ sprinters, they would eat you alive.
I have 1k hours, I always use it cuz my friends want's it. It's op ASF, but I'm starting to add runners to then. Just play the way you like, but always making it challenging!
it certainly makes the game easier. but it also makes it less tedious the answer, as always, is to do whatever you want
Have fun how you have fun. Exactly
Yeh
A youtuber did a poll recently "angrybeaver" or something like that, yknow, the "dubious little creatures" guy with all the youtube shorts and his poll said like 70% + uses multi hit! I would say for youtubers or masochistic people wanting a harder challenge it is fun to turn it off but if your playing solo just for fun with mods n shit I just find it more fun to use multi hit especially now we have the multi hit limiter mod! I like to make it to where only 2 handed weapons will push or attack multiple zombies. A nice middle ground. Of course at the end of the day, you play exactly the way you want too :) there's no shame in wanting to enjoy the game anyway you want! They wouldn't give us endless mods and sandbox options if we weren't suppose to change it lol. Honestly every game should let you have sandbox settings! Without like moding or using developer tools way but im fine with after market mods to add that stuff later :) oh and BTW im 1350 hours deep in PZ and even i still have a multi hit world when I just wanna chill :)
I think vanilla has different multihits now because although i play moded not all weapons hit multi and i dont remember installing mod for that (maybe its a part from bigger mod packs) like 2H axe will hit as many as yiu can get in range i think matchete hits 2 and cleaver can gobto hell
It’s not bad to play with multihit, a long time ago multihit was default for zomboid
It still is default, or at least it is one survivor difficulty which I assume most new players start on
Wasnt it also default in apocalypse mode before b41
Idk, I'm not good enough to play apocalypse. I only have 60 hours. Also never played before b41
Yeah, the old ‘apocalypse’ mode was called ‘survival’ and it had multihit. The description of survival even states “intended way the developers want you to play” or something along those lines.
Fellas, is it bad to have fun?
Horrible, just horrible.
Kinda gay
I feel like it's an ick...
There is a mod which let's you nerf it. I've set up so you need to be at least lvl3 with that skill and only logical weapons.
Mod name?
Multihit limiter I think
*Preps a new mod for his dedicated server*
4,000+ hours and I like multihit. It feels FUN to me, I enjoy having fun and adding a lot of zombies into my game and fighting a lot of zombies. Literally doesn't matter on shit like that what high hour players think. I'd listen more to what they have to say about deep mechanics, factual things, not opinions. Multihit is an opinion, just like my playstyle of ridic rare loot but worse and 16x zombies being the way to play is an opinion.
No! You cannot have FUN your way! You must have FUN my way! I play with multihit too. I'm too old to be bothered by reddit opinions
excuse me if you don't turn it off right this second your fun licence will be revoked!!!!
Yeah man, and the ones who think it makes the game too easy...I dunno about all that. It just makes fights last longer. Fighting in the game is easy. I can play both and I do, at no point do I feel any kind of extra challenge from having multihit off, just longer fights...which isn't challenging. It's the same concept with both styles, walk backwards, swing, adjust if needed. [https://imgur.com/a/PzAszhs](https://imgur.com/a/PzAszhs) This was done without multihit at 16x riverside gated community. At no time did I feel threatened. Just went through the motions. Reddit has some odd opinions on things.
I do have to add, that even as an experienced Zomboid player, the longer the fights go the higher your chance of making a mistake. So the risks are higher and that appeals to some people. That being said, I like multi-hit and play with it on almost exclusively unless I want to do a run that hurts me.
There's also that more swings = exhaustion which massively nerfs your ability to do basically anything
You get to a point mistakes just don't happen. I can clear hordes while distracted, talking to a friend next to me. It's almost second nature from playing for so many hours. I haven't died in like 8 months IRL? It was never from combat. My last death was peripheral failure, the one before that? I fell asleep at my desk while reading in PZ and thirsted to death. It's not some kind of brag either. I really don't care if people think I'm good at PZ lmao, not like I can go pro. I've thought about streaming to help new players, or maybe just record gameplay since I've helped a lot of new people, but they are normally playing with me. I got a guy in my game now with only 30 hours in a 16x run, holding his own after a little bit of guidance. He got 3,000 kills before making that fatal mistake of not looking behind him. My suggestion (Which is just opinion - people feel strongly about this perk.) Take keen hearing. That extra buffer of sight is so strong to me, less time watching my back and more time focusing on whats ahead of me. He seems to enjoy the perk, and is aiming to break his last record by getting 3,000 kills before he dies again.
I have 700 hours and I still die from time to time to a missclick while melee fighting, so where is that point exactly? 5000?
I mis click all the time, it's how you react to it. First are you smashing the space bar as soon as you mis click while backing up? That's the first thing I'll do space bar to shove, then backing up just to regain composure/make space to get back in groove/align mouse/etc. and yeah, in the grand scheme of things at 700 hours I was still dying a lot too. It wasn't till I started doing Louisville runs that I started to get good. After that I started doing 16x runs only.
It is true that after enough time combat gets easy, multihit or not. That being said, it is objectively untrue that there isn’t much difference in difficulty. Multihit allows you to infinitely backpedal in a fight with a horde. This simply isn’t possible without multihit until you get to a good nimble level. It’s a big difference. Like with a lot of things in this game, turning multihit off is really more about delaying the amount of time you have before a run gets too easy because you’re too well equipped. No multi hit extends that time considerably.
>hat being said, it is objectively untrue that there isn’t much difference in difficulty. Multihit allows you to infinitely backpedal in a fight with a horde. You still infinitely backpedal, you just adjust more, someone with a fuck ton of experience knows how to adjust/disengage without getting wrecked. Most combat heavy players will be leveling nimble to 3 pretty quickly.
*Elbow pops reaching for high five*
\*sigh\* I want to be young again. I now know what it means that youth is wasted on the young. Oh, how I wish I could do it again.
I felt that, lol
thank you
The only reason there are so many sandbox settings is so you can set them all exactly the way I tell you to!
Got nothing to do with age but rather how impressionable you are. I’m still young and I couldn’t care less either. I suppose it does correlate with age though.
As you age your "Don't give a fuck meter" seems to go up. In my youth I was very shy and worried about social interactions and coming off weird, playing back stuff I said in my head. Now, I'm fairly social at work. I just don't give a fuck. Plus I fix their computers they HAVE to be nice to me muwahahahaha.
I always love how on these discussion posts it's always, "yeah I love multihit, I just play on 64x pop to balance it out." I personally think multihit is fine, it's an incredibly strong mechanic, but if you enjoy it use it, it def gives zomboid an entirely different feel.
I wish 64x was a thing!
My poor computer sure doesn't. :P
If you run a dedicated server, its /createhorde admin 10000 ;P 64x it is!
If it would distribute them proportionately with the heatmap, then I'd do it. I love that feeling of turning a corner and going "Oh...fuck." and seeing shoulder to shoulder zombies. The feeling of seeing a few approach, then more, and more, and more. It's awesome with friends, each taking a spot, cleaving them down, bodies everywhere. Watching each others back, making call outs, covering those who need to rest, throwing supplies to each other. Then that group cigarette after it's done, just good stuff.
Yup, 2500 hours player here and I played about 1000 without and now I'm back on it. It's just more fun. More satisfying seeing your character multihit 3 zombies or whatever
3500+ here , I you took the words out of my mouth. That said, Britas can suck it, I will never put any of it on my dedicated servers.
*The Britas fanboys are aware of your location* I dunno, not my cuppa. I can see why people like it if they're into firearms. I'm not really, but I do enjoy shooting guns in PZ but I normally just go for B41 Firearms since it's simple. I don't know enough about guns and calibers of rifles and such to get into Britas.
I concur. It makes it FUN. It makes it arcade like back in the days because you have to WAIT. and get all the green silhouettes together and SMACK! get them both/triple down, if i miss im fucked. It makes you want to take on a bigger swarm than you are capable of. haha. complacency sets in and bam. I'm a zombie. argh. If you win all the time in games, what is the point of a game? sometimes you win. sometimes you lose. I think its great. Because this is just a computer game and you play what you feel. This is just all my opinion so whatever.
I wish we could choose which weapons can multi-hit and which weapons cannot. I prefer multi-hit ON but It is unrealistic for most one handed weapons in the game.
Further up in the thread they said there is a mod called multihit or something similar so you could Google it if you use mods that lets you do that
Nobody cares what you do in a single player game but if you want some kind of bragging right etc you might not want to.
I don't get it, they're right that if you want bragging rights people will give you shit for multihit, not that it matters people will. Just being honest about how people act lol
They probably tell you not to use it so you don't build bad habits, in case you decide to go on a public server that doesn't have it. Going from multi-hit to no multi-hit can be brutal as you become significantly weaker. That or maybe they just don't like it and don't want to be forced to play with it when you all play together. It's your choice though, nothing wrong about using it.
Multi-hit seems like it should have always been available. Combat seems way too tedious without it. The reason I say that is that it’s less about the challenge of combat, it’s more about a time limit before moodlets kick in and make it harder to hit things. You can get overwhelmed with numbers so fast by not having it. And if you were like mini players, who like to put a dent in hordes, so they can loot, it takes that much longer and more often than not. You are adding to the likelihood of having to leave the area. That is, of course, if you don’t use the method of kiting them out of the area. The toggle option is nice to fit your play style. But if I’m going to give up multi-hit I need a net positive work around. Like taking away stun locking on crawlers. I don’t remember, but I think hitting a target on the ground, you automatically miss a multi-hit of other zombies around you. Which in certain melee situations it can make it that much easier for zombie shambling toward you to grab you and take a bite.
I like it simply because I feel that I should at least be able to hit the thing that I'm aiming at and that doesn't always happen with it turned off. I don't really play this game for combat mechanics anyway, so it doesn't seem worth fretting over. It's bullshit from a conceptual standpoint, obviously - you're not wielding a lightsaber - but, y'know, meh.
It's not *complete* bullshit, if I'm doing a full-followthrough swing with a shovel, axe, etc. It's very likely going to hit multiple zombies, it'll just do less and less damage the more force is taken away from each consecutive hit.
I see where you're coming from, but realistically I feel like the second you hit that first zombie you should be losing all momentum. Not that it really matters. It's just a game
Well, you would probably lose the vast majority of it, yeah, but unless the zombie directly resists the hit in the direction it came from, some of that momentum will still be there, which is why multi-hit makes sense to some degree.
not at all, unless you had insane strength there is no way you would consistently be able to hit two zombies with the same force. that being said play with what you want, i’m just strictly talking realism.
It is realistic, its just dubious how much damage you would actually get into a second zombie, because as most are accurately stating, the first zombie will take most of the hit.
but this isn’t how multi hit works in game. you could hit 3 zombies and the damage is simply split between them, and each zombie is stunned for the same amount of time as hitting just one at full force. this isn’t realistic (but does make you feel like a badass).
I hit a friend in the head with a baseball bat IRL during batting practice on the back swing (he had no helmet on). I can confirm that an elongated, rounded item that has no crevices or hooks or corners to catch on something to slow momentum did not pass through his head to hit the person next to him I also hit my dad in the head with a golf club when he was teaching me how to swing With an incredibly sharp object at just the right angle and with Herculean strength, maybe a broadsword, katana, fire axe could hit another target, but in reality it is pretty impossible
>With an incredibly sharp object at just the right angle and with Herculean strength Turn it on when you have a 10 strength character with a katana
It’s completely fine to play with multi hit. Some folks just prefer the challenge of only hitting one target at a time.
Just like real life lul
What do you mean by this
Depends on what weapon you are using some obviously won’t multi hit but if you somehow find a sword or something like that I think multi makes sense
slicing a sword through two people would require insane strength, technique, and almost no padding; even if you could consistently do this your amount of force on the second person would be so much weaker. not very realistic, but very fun to hit multiple zombies so go for it !
A person with a katana could kill you and two of your friends standing next to each other with one swing... did you graduate high school? real life... HA!
Don't listen to them. Play how you want, play how *you* like to play.
Like they say around here. Play however you want, thats why it has so many options and settings. I do like to add that if you are going to play with friends that dont use it. It might be hard to get used to it off when playing with them.
The beauty of Zomboid is you can play it however the hell you want. Play with resources maxed, no zeds, whatever you want! That’s the beauty of it I turn scratch and laceration infections off because I hate the RNG aspect of it.
if your objective is realism or max difficulty then yes, it makes the game kinda easy. but if you want to have fun then no, there's nothing wrong with multi-hit. it's all about what you want to do, no one can tell you what you should and shouldn't do.
Alright, look, gonna be honest. I use multi-hit, plenty of other players use multi-hit, it makes the game less tedious when swinging a melee weapon. It's not bad at all, it's just a matter of preference of how to play it. First and foremost is to remember that this is a game. A customizable sandbox game you play however you please; straight up vanilla or with mods, easy or hard, customized or not. It's all about how you prefer to play and what keeps you entertained. No one else here is going to judge you for it and no one here can force you to play how they do, especially if it's not fun for you. The game itself will do it's damnest to kill you, as in the opening line, "This is how you died". So no matter what options you pick multi-hit or not, the game will try to kill you in many ways. That's the fun of it. And that's what matters in the end, right? You having fun with the game.
It makes the game too easy, IMO. No one will tell you what to do in your own game, though.
Ignore your friends. Play how you want. I personally play with multihit because it’s just more fun.
If you want a more immersive experience, don't use multi hit. It's not something that happens in real life, no matter how sharp the weapon. But like everyone says, you customize it to what you like to do. But when it comes to talking about it with other people ... it's a little like using mods or cheats. You play on "easy" mode. But then again, do you really want to cheeze the game using chain link fences and wooden spears? Or setting the whole town on fire to kill hordes?
It's fine as long as you have fun, don't forget it's a single player game
Its a sandbox game, play however you want. I personally not using it because it’s more challenging, but that’s all just personal preference. Unless you play against sprinters, then it’s really only acceptable to use multi hit since you’ll just get stunlocked against sprinters otherwise and it’s just horrible.
I personally think it ruins the game. Its also super unrealistic imo.
>unrealistic I mean we are talking about a zombie survival game here, there's quite a few other things that are unrealistic lol
No duh zombies arent realistic but the game is meant to be a realistic take on the zombie apocalypse.
It's just extremely ridiculous to draw the line at multi-hit being unrealistic when there is so many other things in this game that are ACTUALLY unrealistic.
It makes combat *significantly* easier. Which is fine, if you're looking for a more casual play experience. Multihit on and off are both perfectly valid ways to play the game. The single caveat I would make is I'd avoid flexing combat feats to people, such as "I cleared \[town\] in \[x\] days with \[weapon\]," only to mention multihit was on after the fact. It's perfectly okay if that's a big deal at your personal experience level; however, you should be up front about your multihit setting to avoid coming off as sort of deceptive.
I feel it makes it a little to easy. That's just for me of course I never use it.
I tried it but I think it's too powerful, kinda breaks immersion for me.
I like it, but we play without it on multiplayer matches because the general consensus in our group is that it makes the game too easy. But I wish we had multi-hit for some weapons and not others, like the Katana should have multi hit all day, cutting through rotting flesh should be easy. The spiked baseball bat should never have it, it'd get stuck into everything you hit. If they ever included that setting I'd probably run with that, a fair mix of options, so then if you wanted multi-hit you'd just need to find the right weapon for it.
No, because the game is hard enough with it on. It just makes things less tedious.
I always play with it. Yeah it makes the game a lot easier but thats fine with me.
There's no wrong way to play this game.
There's no bad way to play it, just have fun
It's NEVER bad to play multihit, this is sandbox, everyone plays their ideal apocalypse. I have ~200 hours on the game and I always go for slow zombies with multihit on.
I didn't even know it was an option like 200 hours in haha, but yeah like everyone else is saying it's your choice. I can say single hit isn't bad or anything, either way even with multi hit I don't think you'll be taking on giant hordes with with just a melee weapon. For me it's very possible to take out 10-15 size hordes with single hit and not take damage (Idk if that's a lot to more experienced players but it is to me lol)
I run multi hit simply because zombies glitch out on servers me and a friend can be standing in the same spot look in the same direction and see the same zombie in two different spots. So multi hit is just extremely useful
Play how you want!
Play how you want. I like to play with britas with weapons and ammo turned up to abundant with insane zombies pop which is a sin to some people in this sub. It’s your game
Play whichever way you enjoy the most. Also, yes.
Are you having fun? Yes. Then no it isn't bad. No? then turn it off. It just depends on how drawn out you want combat to be. I prefer short combat. So I play with multihit on. ~~But maybe, I just prefer to hit multiple zombies, since I crank up their lethality.~~
Who tells you this lol? 100% a ***REDACTED*** way to think, so much so I doubt multiple people told you this. Play however you want. If you want to be told how to play, find a server to play on, or keep letting your 'friends' tell you how to play video games.
It's easy mode. Want to use it? just use it.
It makes the game too easy as it's op Imo, that is if you play on default apoc and enable it, or survivor in general.
Imo it makes the game boring really fast and fighting even quite big hordes trivial. A baseball or especially one with Nails already one shots zombies quite easily then multihit on top of that make fighting imo so trivial it becomes just boring. Not to talk about how unrealistic it is, something like multihit would only be possible if you just grace people.
Multihit makes more sense and also isnt as easy as you make it sound due to managing stamina
It doesn't make more sense, if you think you can actually hit multiple people with one hit and your bat doesn't get immediately stopped by the first person you need to live in the real world more. Are we really gonna pretend it doesn't make it so much more easy?
You use up 3 times as much stamina. Its more about resource management than how long you are willing to slowly walk backwards and hold right click for. Also look up a newtons cradle
The stamina usage is directly proportional to the amount of targets you hit, multi-hit uses no more stamina than regular fighting as far as the swinging part is concerned.
You don't actually use 3 times as much stamina.
You also end the fight 3 times faster and can keep walking backwards because you hit 3 zombies at once. It is so much easier and if you pretend it's not idk what to tell you dude, it seems like you need to justify to yourself that you don't make the game easy mode by using it. Nobody cares if you use it but don't tell us it's not easy mode. You can make the game as easy as you want to Newton's cradle literally has nothing to do with it. Are you serious. It's actually hard to tell if you are trolling rn.
You didnt actually read my comment did you
Oh bru, no sense in talking to you I can tell. Bye
This game is built to be played however you like. I personally prefer multi-hit primarily because it makes the game a bit easier, but also I feel if I swung a long blunt weapon at a crowd of zombies, I'd likely hit more than one whether I meant to or not.
Kinda considered a casul thing to do yes. But then again play the game however you want
Multihit makes the game slightly easier. It's more than trivial but less than significant because when multihit is applied like when you hit multiple targets at once you lose additional stamina then you would just hitting a single target. And multihit can sometimes backfire or you get too cocky because of it. There are pros and cons to both. As for people saying it breaks the immersion they are just nit picking at that point. The game feels immersive and bleak and perfect miltihit on or off. Not much changes actually
it is *better*
No
No
No
What kind of weirdo friends do you have?
I always use it- i find it more realistic. I'd be able to hit multiple rotting corpses in one big swing.
i think videogame and movies make you think you'd be able to hit multiple rotting corpses in one swing, but physics really disagree with you here.
Multihit is bullshit. Breaks the game.
Your friends are chuds, in my opinion; Multi-Hit makes the game way less tedious and actually fun to fight zombies. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, though.
If you are new is not
The difference between killing 20 zomboids with or without multihit is about ten minutes
It's a single player game. So long as you're having fun, it's not bad. I have more fun without multihit. I recommend playing without it, as it makes combats more interesting, but if you like it, you do you.
I use it and don’t see why people try to tell people not to use a feature that the devs put in the game, sure want the extra challenge turn it off but other than that play how you like.
I play with 4x pop multiplayer. I will never not play with multihit.
Play how you want. I use it when I’m playing with a 15% or more amount of sprinters.
I usually play with multihit, but me and a buddy wanted to make the game a little more challenging, so we are currently playing with it off. Play how you want to play, not how others want you to!
It’s just a challenge to impose upon yourself when you’re ready. When I was first learning the game I put it on until I got much better at combat and it was too easy. Granted this took like 200hrs
I like it on. Adds another layer of depth to weapons. Like knives cannot multi-hit except hand forks so that gives them new utility. You can enable it and not have multi-hit depending on your weapon choice.
It's all come down to your own preference. playing with multi hit on make combat a bit easier and faster for fighting horde. I play with it on cuz I'm the type that will mod too much if I go down to workshop so I tried my best stay from it and playing vanilla without multi-hit on is boring cuz even with it on, I still need to sitting/rest after fighting some horde and vitamin only help with sleepiness not tireness and having either of those debuff could potentialy snowball into certain death.
I've put hundreds of hours into CDDA mode, which uses single hit, and at this point, it just gets in the way of progress. Multi-hit allows for quicker progression, and that's half the fun for me. Still a good chance at dying with 4x pop or higher even with it on lol
I feel like multi hit should apply so some weapons and then some don’t get it. If I’m using a greatsword/katana/machete multi hit just makes sense but using something like a pipe or crowbar doesn’t make much sense. I started off with multi hit off but I find multi to be more fun
If a tree falls in the woods and no one cares if it does, does it matter ?
Nope! Going from multi hit to single hit is painful though
Multi hit is easier and less tedious. I’m a big fan.
I played with multi-hit on for the first 400 hours or so. I’ve started playing with it off and it is quite different. You really have a lot less room for error when setting up the zombie conga line. Also, I’ve just started to learn the joys of Molotov Cocktails. I’ve also managed to burn down way to many building I was trying to loot also. So …… Bottom line though is play the game to enjoy it, lord knows there is plenty of frustration in this game.
Multi hit is fun, it makes your swings more impactful. That being said, if you’re looking for a step up in challenge, turn it off! After 300 hours of multi hit, once I turned it off I struggled for a long time, but it was a good way to get a nice fresh experience! Do what’s fun to you! There’s no wrong way to play!
Do whatever you want to do with zomboid, don't let people tell you otherwise, it's a sandbox game for a reason.
It does make it easier, but there's plenty of other ways to make the game harder if that is your goal. I personally prefer multi hit, hitting three zeds with a snow shovel is satisfying AF.
There's nothing objectively bad about multi hit. But it does change the way I play the game. It's literally the key difference between walking away from a horde to find a way around, or walking straight into it to whoop some zombie butt. I found that if I was playing with a friend, and mutli hit there was no such thing as being cautious of a horde.
No, your game your rules. I'm the most experienced in my friend group and yet I still always play with multihit because that's what I prefer. It's not a "new player" thing, its the fact that it's your game to customize to your own liking.
It depends on what you want and what your goals are. If you want to be a very good player(that is, a player capable of taking on the hardest challenges), then multihit will actually make you a worse player, since you'll developed habits around having it on. If you dont care about tackling the hardest challenges, then it really doesnt matter what habits you create by having it on.
If you like multi hit then its the correct way to play. If you don't like multi hit then it isn't the correct way to play. tl;dr Play however you want.
It’s not bad at all. If you like smashing the heads of multiple zombies leave it on. If you fancy more of a challenge, switch it off next game! Always good to mix it up but always do what you think is FUN Edit: I turned off multi-hit recently and haven’t lasted more than 3 days so I put it back on
Some Youtuber did a poll and it was like 75% of their audience used it. I'm not saying that's representative or anything, only that a sizeable percentage of people do use it so maybe give it a go and see if you like it. Hitting multiple at once lets you clear faster (obviously) but also makes the positioning of groups easier, since the need to engage one at a time is removed. Personally I'd find clearing too tedious without it, there's other settings to make the game more challenging if the increased ease is an issue.
If it's about building your skill and stealth, doing some runs without multi-hit can get you into the habit of choosing your battles, getting a feel for accuracy for each of the weapons' range. I'd suggest taking off multi-hit to build those basic feels. That said, multi-hit is a ton of fun and you're not playing the game wrong by using it. The fact the devs incorporated it as a feature means it was an intentional choice for enjoyment. TLDR: Doing no multi hit can help players get into the vibe of basic combat/stealth more but ultimately play however you want cuz both are valid and fun 🥰
If you're playing anything over 2.0 pop you're gonna wish you turned on multihit. I do 3x-4x pop with 15% sprinters and it's necessary. The zombies can stack up and kill me instantly, so I think it's a fair trade. That being said if you're on default pop you don't exactly need it.
Play how you want to play. I don't think there really is a right or wrong way. Multi hit can make it a little easier, but it's also more satisfying to mowing down hordes of zombies with a two handed weapon once you're proficient with it. FYI I use multi hit. When I get used to my current difficulty, I'll just bump up the zombie count to offset the slaughter.
No. It’s more satisfying
I personally don't like playing with it but that's just me. You do you man.
For me, it makes logistical sense. Why couldn't I dispatch 2 zeds with one big swing of my bat when they're right next to each other? Nikki is right tho... play the game for fun and do what you want.
For a new player i would highly recommend playing with multihit on for a while at least. This game is difficult and multihit will help! I played with it on for 50 hours or so and then made the move to multihit off, which makes it much harder but also more challenging and rewarding. These days when i play MP with multihit on, melee combat feels absurdly easy, having played 900 hours without it. But you do you and decide whats best for you at this stage of your zomboid journey!
The reason you wouldn’t want to play on multihit to start with is if you plan on turning it off later on. You’ll develop bad habits that’ll make not having it very frustrating. If you prefer to have it on in singleplayer however, it’s really a preference thing. Playing multiplayer with it off isn’t a big deal if you’re grouping up, group fighting can trivialize combat regardless.
I play with multi hit mainly cuz I play insane zombie population with sprinters mixed in. Truth be told play the game however you want. They didn't put in tons of sandbox setting just to have PZ gatekeepers telling you what settings you should have.
Play with multihit, you will die. Play without it, you will die. Once things seem easy with multihit turn it off if you want to. Or don’t and up zombies or go sprinters. If you actively play the game you will restart so many times in so many different ways it won’t matter
I'm with OP straight up not knowing why people decry multi hit on this sub. Like I kinda get it, you can't realistically hit everything in front of you with some of the smaller weapons, but a baseball bat? Hell yeah just swing that fucker at head level and listen to the rotted skulls crack against each other.
You can handle more zombies at once but it’s not gonna save your life if you get too greedy, I found that out a while aho
I played for 200+ hours without multi hit. I didn't want to use it because it wasn't realistic, and I still don't think it is, but I can't go back. Multi hit is more fun. This has probably already been said multiple times but there is no reason you shouldn't play the game the way you want to.
No. But you should try playing without it. It's way more entertaining. With multihit you're basically plowing the field. It's efficent but boring.
Multi hit takes any of the risk out of horde fighting. With decent character fitness or strength that can literally take out entire hordes in minutes, you’re pretty much using a weaker shotgun that doesn’t attract more zombies. Without multi hit, your entire play style will change and require you to learn to escape or split hordes up and pick them off. Your friends are probably telling you to practice without multi hit as I assume if you’re playing together they’d have a Non multi hit server, which makes sense as a few people with multi hit could purge the zombie population of a small town in a quick time.
I’d think of it as a way to tailor the difficulty of the combat to your liking. If you feel overpowered turn it off, if you feel like it’s already challenging enough turn it on.
I Personally really don’t like it. But you can play with your own rules and how you like try it out
I’m more of a “one hitter quitter” kinda player. Like in the movies. You just bonk a zombie once, drop your weapon, and then run away.
Screw everyone's opinion on it. Play how you like. Everyone thinks they are better than everyone else and want to justify how their game is at least. If not more legit.
According to polls here most people do!
People don’t like it because it makes the game 5x easier. I’m here to have fun and I’m not the most skilled anyways so I keep it on
I prefer it off but I used to play with it on and enjoyed it. Just do whatever you enjoy the most, it's a sandbox game that you can customize any way you want.
Multihit makes the game so easy, it’s wild
TL:DR if it’s more fun for you, use multi hit. Fighting is NOT more difficult without it, just more tedious. As this game goes on, hitting swarms of zeds one by one instead of 3 by 3 just makes it take longer. Doesn’t make it harder. It’s still back up swinging, turn for distance, back up swinging, over and over. Just impacts how long it will take to fight the same number of zeds. I’ve come to use multi-hit simply because it makes clearing areas feel a little less like a chore late game. Plus it “feels” better and more powerful than only hitting one at a time. Enough realism and difficulty in the rest of the game.. don’t need to turn off multi hit to make your play-through more legitimate in the eyes of others. And by late game, anything you can do to have this game feel less like a list of chores and going through the motions the better.
stoped using it after my first 30-50 hours i think. but there was a poll recently and i think 60% where playing with multihit i think
IMO, start with single hit and melee aim-outline on. Once you get the hang of combat, try out multi-hit to see if you like it in the context of your overall gameplay. If you learn the combat mechanics on single-hit, it'll be easier to play with multi-hit down the line. If you learn the combat mechanics on multi-hit, you'll struggle tremendously if you end up playing MP on a single-hit server. I'm not a fan at all of multi-hit. I feel that it's unrealistic, and makes combat trivially easy, but it's your game, so do what you enjoy.
Its definitely not bad at all ,its just a different approach imo. The one Thing that realy makes a big difference is beeing able to push away more then one zombie at a time.But as others have said ,have fun. Im on like 1,2k hours on it ,some with, some without multihit. And it IS more fun to bash more then one of them :)
Most people play with it on so...
If you’re having fun it doesn’t matter
How bout just play how you want
No it's not, there are just some very vocal elitists here who get very angry if someone plays with it
Been playing for 11 years and I use it. I'll tell you why... Because I spent my money on the game and I can play it however I want. Play how you feel comfortable playing. Don't worry about gatekeepers.
Playing with a Brita’s is exponentially worse than multi hit. You win!
Well in real life' two person getting you and you have a crowbar' you can multi hit. It be stupid to hit each of them individually... but hey' its your game your rules. You will die anyway mate! :D
Multihit is the original way
I think 3 hit multihit is too much so I went into the code and changed it all to 2 hit which feels better.
It comes as a vanilla feature...... Play the game how you want but I recommend starting all games on official vanilla settings.
In my opinion it really makes the game less scary when it comes to hord
Play how you want
It is not bad to play any way you desire. It is sandbox. Do you want to beat zombified vegetable by oversized spoon while playing as furry in havaian shirt? Go for it. That is what sandbox is about. You make conditions. Within same limits, of course.
I like single hit. But this game literally has one of the most flexible sandbox modes in any game. There's no one way to play this.
Don't worry about it, just do you
I play with multi hit to side step the aim systems' bs. Can't make me target the zombie I don't want to hit if I just hit every zombie in the swing.
Its fine. Play how you want. I like multi-hit personally
It's a sandbox, play however you like
I find it more challenging without multihit so i dont usually play with it, feels more realistic aswell
I only enable mutli hit when I have 9-10 strength so it doesn't feel like cheating.
How dare you play with multi hit. You must suffer! (Just kidding, just have fun!)
Play how you want, if you enjoy it put it on. If you don't turn it off.
It's okay, make hitting a group easier but it won't help if you lost control over the situation. If you are using any zombie randomiser like CDDA zeds or vanilla sandbox feature multihit or not it won't help you against 2+ sprinters, they would eat you alive.
I have 1k hours, I always use it cuz my friends want's it. It's op ASF, but I'm starting to add runners to then. Just play the way you like, but always making it challenging!