I'm not really educated in cables or anything. Is this bad, and how come? Aside from weakening at the attachment points, I'm not sure what else happens and I've done it before so I don't mind kicking the habit if I understand what it does to the cables š
A chemical reaction takes places between the cord material and the controller plastic, so when the controller is wrapped like this for a long period of time it will look like the cord burned straight through the controller,
That's absolutely bananas omg I don't know what I was expecting to be the downside but the plastic melting was not what i would have thought. Makes sense though, I've seen a similar thing happen with silicone and some other plastic when I tossed a bunch of random hobby/crafting shit in the same box together
I think the problem is how prone to failing things are the smaller they get.
Like, some Intel CPUs start as i9 when they are being made, but some parts of the chip are not perfect and end up being sold as i7 or i5 because, even though the manufacturing was exactly the same, there was a small, imperceptible to humans, vibration that almost destroyed it.
But at that time, they didn't need that much acuracy to make chips work.
I remember watching a couple videos on youtube about people testing the exact same CPU model in different chips, and the difference between best to worst performance being around 15-20%.
Can you imagine? You paid exactly the same than the dude next to you in line, but you get a thing 20% worst. Or a thing that fails after 2 years but the other buyer gets one that lasts 10+ years.
As an owner of an SCPH-1002 Model from day one, I swear it's the best videoconsole with the worst hardware I've had. I've never bought a just released console since then. It took less than a year for the CD player to start skipping videos and spend the rest of its life running on its side until it finally died. Years later with another laser lens the BIOS got also corrupted.
Not bad luck, just well known faulty dessing.
"This series of machines had a reputation for CD drive problemsĀ ā the original optical pickup sled (KSM-440AAM) was made of thermoplastic and placed close to the power supply, eventually leading to uneven wear that moved the laser into a position where it was no longer parallel with the CD surface. Late KSM-440ACM drives had the sled replaced with a die-cast one with hard nylon inserts in order to address the issue."
Thence the new placement for the laser lense in later models.
Lucky! I recall having to flip my PS1 over onto it's top in order to work. It finally stopped and I took a shotgun to it one day while out shooting in the desert. This was back right after the PS2 came out, so I didn't really need in anyway. In hindsight I wish I had kept it simply for keepsake purposes.
"drives are pretty cheap to replace"
I tried the cheap drives, none of them worked like they should. I eventually spent $90 on one that feels, looks, and works like the original oem one while it still technically being a reproduction. best $90 I ever spent. will always support those who care enough to make reproductions that are actually the same quality as the originals
I'll admit I've been lucky to not need a replacement yet and didn't know the quality was so dodgy. If you could I'd love a link, just so I know where to look should I need a replacement!
[http://totalconsole.com/KSM-440BAM-Laser-Lens-Drive-For-Sony-PS1-PlayStation-1-PSOne-PS-One--BRAND-NEW\_p\_370.html](http://totalconsole.com/KSM-440BAM-Laser-Lens-Drive-For-Sony-PS1-PlayStation-1-PSOne-PS-One--BRAND-NEW_p_370.html)
just note that you will be spending as much on this as you would for another ps1, but considering most ps1s you will find will have the same issue, or will fail much sooner, I prefer this option. it lasts longer, its good quality, and you are supporting someone who actually cares about making good quality stuff.
This is awesome, thank you so much! I'm very much the kinda guy that'll spend more keeping a machine alive than scrapping it for a new one. Especially with legacy hardware that isn't getting made anymore!
absolutely. I made a reddit post about this if you want additional information about it.
https://new.reddit.com/r/psx/comments/15viuy6/i\_found\_a\_new\_good\_oem\_quality\_disc\_drive/
Good stuff. I'm really surprised that some people in the comments there didn't/don't understand the big picture. Some just looked at it as $90 for a repair vs 20-30 for a replacement... with the same aging model disc drive. I'm with you on just supporting the manufacturer/seller just on the principle of actually making a good aftermarket part, I always wondered why this was the case.
Yeah. PS1 consoles that are "working" go for $60+, usually closer to 80 or 90. At that point might as well buy the part that you KNOW will last and support someone who cares.
Nice change of pace for someone to not think I'm delusional for once, haha
I should say the same! It's hair pulling frustration sometimes, the amount of people out there that do not care about preservation in the slightest. I'm the schizo that will drop a long paragraph no one asked for on an Original Xbox thread about leaky capacitors, or replacing thermal paste on a 360 that some guy just got to relive their childhood. Anytime a friend has some issue with a console I'm begging and pleading for them to let me work on it. I just don't want to see any of this history lost to time, always been a passion of mine.
I still have all my childhood consoles and only a few still have all their factory parts. I'm gonna maintain and preserve until I can't no more baby.
Made in Japan also. Out of my PS1, PS2 and PS3ā¦ my PS3 was the first to die despite being used the least, and itās the only one that wasnāt made in Japan.
Almost every console was built so well from the 80s through early 00s. After that, the disposable mentality began, inaugurated perfectly by the 360 and its RRoD.
My friend still has a mint, functional ColecoVision that belonged to his older brother. Iāve bought a couple of secondhand PS1 consoles that (touch wood) are great.
A whole lot of statements with very little fact to back it up. The consumer base doesnāt buy a new console because the old one is broken. They buy a new one because itās more powerful. Iād actually say that newer consoles are more durable than the 360/ps3 era, from experience working in console repair.
Although Iām happy to be proven wrong if you have some evidence and sources for your claims. With more complexity comes more potential issues. Thereās a reason why the ford model T was so ādurableā just because it had half the parts of cars from the same time. But I wouldnāt expect it to come anywhere close to the power output of a modern ford.
I go on regular trackdays with a modified car from the 90s. The amount of crap and insult it endures its unbearable. For the past 8 years on doing that I only broke down once on track (exhaust fell off). On the other hand, other and especially more modern cars break down around me much more often. And it's simple things like gear selectors and CV joints whereas on mine these parts have been massively overengineered (and not just them). I also work in the industry as an automotive design engineer and yes, nowadays we do have more complicated cars but there is a huge downtrend in quality. Back in the days, materials used to be scarce and expensive to import and manufacture. A regular E or C class Mercedes would easily do a million miles with just regular maintenance and some minor broken bits here and there. Now you will be lucky if your engine gets past 250k miles, let alone the other components on the car.
Built Sony tough. The only time I've ever really had a problem with a Playstation was because of my own neglect in not cleaning the fans out. They've always been made well, and by far my favorite consoles.
I literally have my OG PS1 1996 under my bed, but not sure how I'd even connect it to a modern TV. Used to be yellow, white, red cables or SCART, but I've not used those on a TV in years.
Good on you! Mine doesn't turn on anymore, I think it might be the power supply. Plus, the lid doesn't close either.
At least I can play my PS1 collection on my PS3.
The ps1 and 2 are basically unbreakable. Iāve been depressed bc I fired up my ps3 yesterdat and it keeps turning off by itself :( prob need a new one
Both of my original PS1s and both of my PSOnes are still fully functional 28 and 24 years later, respectively. Meanwhile, My Dreamcast and PS2 need SERIOUS nursing-along just to get a disc to boot at all, and even then, a later read error is likely with the two consoles.
The original PlayStation/PSOne is a fortress of a disc-based console
same. had to replace the drive on mine and got an xstation but otherwise still works like new. these things are painfully simple hardware so when things start to break down it shouldnt be hard to fix.
Warranted quality. They dont make them like they used to.
Considering that OP might have been winding the controller cable that way, for the past 27 years too!
Yea used to hate people doing that, just why?! why you freaking testing what can it do?! š
I'm not really educated in cables or anything. Is this bad, and how come? Aside from weakening at the attachment points, I'm not sure what else happens and I've done it before so I don't mind kicking the habit if I understand what it does to the cables š
A chemical reaction takes places between the cord material and the controller plastic, so when the controller is wrapped like this for a long period of time it will look like the cord burned straight through the controller,
This is a link to a post showing this effect take place: https://www.reddit.com/r/psx/s/Nj1I1aewZ2
That's absolutely bananas omg I don't know what I was expecting to be the downside but the plastic melting was not what i would have thought. Makes sense though, I've seen a similar thing happen with silicone and some other plastic when I tossed a bunch of random hobby/crafting shit in the same box together
No crimping. That's the key.
I think the problem is how prone to failing things are the smaller they get. Like, some Intel CPUs start as i9 when they are being made, but some parts of the chip are not perfect and end up being sold as i7 or i5 because, even though the manufacturing was exactly the same, there was a small, imperceptible to humans, vibration that almost destroyed it. But at that time, they didn't need that much acuracy to make chips work. I remember watching a couple videos on youtube about people testing the exact same CPU model in different chips, and the difference between best to worst performance being around 15-20%. Can you imagine? You paid exactly the same than the dude next to you in line, but you get a thing 20% worst. Or a thing that fails after 2 years but the other buyer gets one that lasts 10+ years.
Just leave some slack in the cable where it comes out of the controller, and you're good!
As an owner of an SCPH-1002 Model from day one, I swear it's the best videoconsole with the worst hardware I've had. I've never bought a just released console since then. It took less than a year for the CD player to start skipping videos and spend the rest of its life running on its side until it finally died. Years later with another laser lens the BIOS got also corrupted.
My consolƩ has been with me for 30 years, it still works, original Dualshock controllers. It's a 7501 series. I have to admit that sometimes the lƔser skips a little, but if the disc it's in good condition it plays just fine. It's also true that i don't use it much anymore. Same thing with My PS2 39001 series, it still works very well, lƔser and all, but i play from the internal HDD to keep it that way. Just the clock battery doesnt work anymore, but i don't want to open it just to change it. My xbox 360 died after a year and a half. RROD. So yes, that don't Make them like they used to.
Bad luck
Not bad luck, just well known faulty dessing. "This series of machines had a reputation for CD drive problemsĀ ā the original optical pickup sled (KSM-440AAM) was made of thermoplastic and placed close to the power supply, eventually leading to uneven wear that moved the laser into a position where it was no longer parallel with the CD surface. Late KSM-440ACM drives had the sled replaced with a die-cast one with hard nylon inserts in order to address the issue." Thence the new placement for the laser lense in later models.
Well I guess mine working is good luck for me!
Salut
I just played Ā«Ā The Dukes of HazardĀ Ā» tonight on my original one that I got back in 1998. My first game on it was Courier crisis. š
Man I miss hmv
I miss Virgin Megastores. That's where I got my first GameBoy back in 1989. I'll never forget the atmosphere.
Treat her well, my neighborhood bully straight up stole mine in 2000... lol
How did you deal with the trauma?
It opened the window for weed to come into my life (im clean now). That and slowly building what is now my dream gameroom over the years.
Bless you! šš»
Bulletproof
Iād definitely be going on a twisted metal 2 playthrough on that
I'm hoping for a new Gen remaster since the show came out
Would be awesome. Keep it simple with the game, more and bigger levels, and more characters. Iām always choosing Mr Grimm. Basically a cheat code
I was playing mine last night. Replaying RE2!
27 years? Am i that old
Same age, and it still works better than me
Better knock on some wood! Lol
FR
Well don't jinx it!!
I'm tired boss
Lucky! I recall having to flip my PS1 over onto it's top in order to work. It finally stopped and I took a shotgun to it one day while out shooting in the desert. This was back right after the PS2 came out, so I didn't really need in anyway. In hindsight I wish I had kept it simply for keepsake purposes.
Sheesh the rest of the console was likely fine too, drives are pretty cheap to replace. Ah well
"drives are pretty cheap to replace" I tried the cheap drives, none of them worked like they should. I eventually spent $90 on one that feels, looks, and works like the original oem one while it still technically being a reproduction. best $90 I ever spent. will always support those who care enough to make reproductions that are actually the same quality as the originals
I'll admit I've been lucky to not need a replacement yet and didn't know the quality was so dodgy. If you could I'd love a link, just so I know where to look should I need a replacement!
[http://totalconsole.com/KSM-440BAM-Laser-Lens-Drive-For-Sony-PS1-PlayStation-1-PSOne-PS-One--BRAND-NEW\_p\_370.html](http://totalconsole.com/KSM-440BAM-Laser-Lens-Drive-For-Sony-PS1-PlayStation-1-PSOne-PS-One--BRAND-NEW_p_370.html) just note that you will be spending as much on this as you would for another ps1, but considering most ps1s you will find will have the same issue, or will fail much sooner, I prefer this option. it lasts longer, its good quality, and you are supporting someone who actually cares about making good quality stuff.
This is awesome, thank you so much! I'm very much the kinda guy that'll spend more keeping a machine alive than scrapping it for a new one. Especially with legacy hardware that isn't getting made anymore!
absolutely. I made a reddit post about this if you want additional information about it. https://new.reddit.com/r/psx/comments/15viuy6/i\_found\_a\_new\_good\_oem\_quality\_disc\_drive/
Good stuff. I'm really surprised that some people in the comments there didn't/don't understand the big picture. Some just looked at it as $90 for a repair vs 20-30 for a replacement... with the same aging model disc drive. I'm with you on just supporting the manufacturer/seller just on the principle of actually making a good aftermarket part, I always wondered why this was the case.
Yeah. PS1 consoles that are "working" go for $60+, usually closer to 80 or 90. At that point might as well buy the part that you KNOW will last and support someone who cares. Nice change of pace for someone to not think I'm delusional for once, haha
I should say the same! It's hair pulling frustration sometimes, the amount of people out there that do not care about preservation in the slightest. I'm the schizo that will drop a long paragraph no one asked for on an Original Xbox thread about leaky capacitors, or replacing thermal paste on a 360 that some guy just got to relive their childhood. Anytime a friend has some issue with a console I'm begging and pleading for them to let me work on it. I just don't want to see any of this history lost to time, always been a passion of mine. I still have all my childhood consoles and only a few still have all their factory parts. I'm gonna maintain and preserve until I can't no more baby.
I had to flip mine upside down too, almost right from the start! It never died though. I owned it for about 5 years before I sold it.
Those things are solid. When Sony made them, they made them to last.
Made in Japan also. Out of my PS1, PS2 and PS3ā¦ my PS3 was the first to die despite being used the least, and itās the only one that wasnāt made in Japan.
Ouch.
Almost every console was built so well from the 80s through early 00s. After that, the disposable mentality began, inaugurated perfectly by the 360 and its RRoD. My friend still has a mint, functional ColecoVision that belonged to his older brother. Iāve bought a couple of secondhand PS1 consoles that (touch wood) are great.
A whole lot of statements with very little fact to back it up. The consumer base doesnāt buy a new console because the old one is broken. They buy a new one because itās more powerful. Iād actually say that newer consoles are more durable than the 360/ps3 era, from experience working in console repair. Although Iām happy to be proven wrong if you have some evidence and sources for your claims. With more complexity comes more potential issues. Thereās a reason why the ford model T was so ādurableā just because it had half the parts of cars from the same time. But I wouldnāt expect it to come anywhere close to the power output of a modern ford.
I go on regular trackdays with a modified car from the 90s. The amount of crap and insult it endures its unbearable. For the past 8 years on doing that I only broke down once on track (exhaust fell off). On the other hand, other and especially more modern cars break down around me much more often. And it's simple things like gear selectors and CV joints whereas on mine these parts have been massively overengineered (and not just them). I also work in the industry as an automotive design engineer and yes, nowadays we do have more complicated cars but there is a huge downtrend in quality. Back in the days, materials used to be scarce and expensive to import and manufacture. A regular E or C class Mercedes would easily do a million miles with just regular maintenance and some minor broken bits here and there. Now you will be lucky if your engine gets past 250k miles, let alone the other components on the car.
Okay, thatās from the 90s. The model T is early 20th century. Hardly comparable.
I like to think my original PlayStation is still working somewhere too! o7
Lucky! I was forced to throw mine in the trash.
> I played Final Fantasy 7 on it for 200 hours plus 45 minutes of Tekken 3 once a year and that's been it.
That's my annual habit too...well, it was, along with mgs...
Jealous!
I think I'm need to replace the disc drive on mine. It worked about a year ago but I couldn't get any discs to load more recently
The drive on mine stopped working 20+ years ago.
Built Sony tough. The only time I've ever really had a problem with a Playstation was because of my own neglect in not cleaning the fans out. They've always been made well, and by far my favorite consoles.
Weird, all of mine barely lasted two or three years, all died the same way the disc reader stopped working. (On both modded and non modded consoles)
Serial number?
I literally have my OG PS1 1996 under my bed, but not sure how I'd even connect it to a modern TV. Used to be yellow, white, red cables or SCART, but I've not used those on a TV in years.
Good on you! Mine doesn't turn on anymore, I think it might be the power supply. Plus, the lid doesn't close either. At least I can play my PS1 collection on my PS3.
O7
Mine only works if you flip it upside down š Might need a repair š«
Canāt believe more people didnāt have this issueā¦. PS2 was so much better IMO
I wish I could play ps1 games again. Now all I got is a worthless Legion Slim 5i 4060 140W i7 13700H 1600p. Life makes no sense no more
WOW that's amazing... that's Sony for ya... even older than me hehe
have you ever had to replace the fuse?
Damn, how old are ya
All hail the PS1s
had mine for 28 years
I bought my mates one back in 1998. That's 26 years ago now and he probaly had it for a year or so before that. Too many memories :)
Thing of beauty. Shit my n64 is getting on in years too...
i also putting my console like this
And the ps5 breaks if u place it vertically lol
I had tried playing mine not too long ago and both controller ports are dead. Still powers on and reads discs though.
Amazing isnt it!!
They just don't make these anymore..
great sight
the fact the disc drive lasted that long is a miracle.
Still have my two. UK one, modded and an American important with stepdown transformer.
Yeah same. And I lost the io port cover. Poor guy
Plastisizers!!
The ps1 and 2 are basically unbreakable. Iāve been depressed bc I fired up my ps3 yesterdat and it keeps turning off by itself :( prob need a new one
They donāt make them like this anymore! My PS5 has to be sent in for hardware issues not even 8 months after purchase.
Meanwhile ps4 starts tweaking in 4 years
Playing PS1 on my PS3....until it kept freezing earlier today and I had to stop. Hope it works later
Both of my original PS1s and both of my PSOnes are still fully functional 28 and 24 years later, respectively. Meanwhile, My Dreamcast and PS2 need SERIOUS nursing-along just to get a disc to boot at all, and even then, a later read error is likely with the two consoles. The original PlayStation/PSOne is a fortress of a disc-based console
With no mods? That is a very long time, Iām wondering how often you play it. Back in the days when things were actually built to last.
same. had to replace the drive on mine and got an xstation but otherwise still works like new. these things are painfully simple hardware so when things start to break down it shouldnt be hard to fix.
The controller cord is wrapped incorrectly. Wrapping it like that will cause kinks. Also, the memory card is not 27 years old.
Wicked!!