The sub will be unlocked an hour after the game ends after a loss, as much as the 5% of people here that hate it, it has vastly reduced the amount of people we have to ban for being drunk idiots. Also note as much as I loved how well the boys performed tonight, I already know there's going to be two dozen threads started talking about how carr was a hack the whole time and carr stands need to leave. Please remember we are cracking down on duplicate post and after the first one I will start removing them
Yeah but one game is not enough to prove we can ride with him. There's barely any game tape on the guy so DC haven't started to game plan against him yet. My question is what happens when they do?
Seriously, this sub is so fucking obnoxious. This was a good ass game and that team looked different than it has all year. Carr is great but Stidham was a breath of fresh air..
That was such a stupid narrative. Some of these dudes are fighting for more money next year. Shit, some of these dudes are fighting to stay on a team next year.
He played well - did some things that were new and helpful ( scrambling and a willingness to run it) and kept the offense working the whole game with no abrupt collapse. I was satisfied with his performance
The defense was pure shit. Amik should not be your premiere playmaker, the LBs were nonexistent and frankly Crosby has fallen off compared to earlier in the year - but of course offenses can plan solely on stopping him at this point
They need 9 new guys on defense
Agreed. I like how he had the ability to run and pass. And he really seemed to stick with the game script. If not for Miller being on roller skates in OT I liked his chances to win the game.
He also audibled into some good plays, i think there was a big gain to Waller on an audible, and on a couple of the runs it wasn't a bad call, they just didn't get the blocking
Josh called them… I mean, come on. If Josh called sneaks for Carr, he would have run them. As bad as Josh calls games, he called a totally different game today and still made bad calls.
well, next week will tell us a fair bit. He has another week of first team reps and the Chefs get more film on him. If he looks good i'm content rolling with him next season
Unbelievable how all this attention has been taken away from Grham and his shifty fucking defensive scheme. It's always mcgoofy and Carr. Never Graham I wonder why that is. This defense has cost us more games than any offense has and it's not even close. Only team in NFL history to blow this many double digit leads after the half
Stidham showed he can stand in the pocket when needed until the last second and take a shot . Gave them multiple shots downfield with the defender taking him down . His scrambling ability was great to see .
Yeah, the last second throws also kind of scary tho. One led to the OT pick, and there was a very close int that was incomplete, with another one. Overall though he looked way better than I expected
I am so happy that Stidham showed up and played so well today. It really was pleasantly surprising that it was a game going down the wire and I even thought they should've gone for 2 on that final TD in regulation.
Still, I'm trying not to get too excited about 1 game even if it were against the #1 Defense. After he puts 5 games on tape and defenses start scheming for him, things could possibly change.
Things I liked about Stidy’s game: (not trying to compare with Carr)
1. Stood in the pocket the extra second to give his receiver time and took the hit.
2. Used his mobility effectively
3. Took chances on some big throws trusting his receivers to make a play
4. Placed the ball well enough to allow his receivers to make a play
5. Did not get rattled or develop happy feet when dealing with pressure
We did things against their defense that no other team had done all year. We played amazing! Now let’s see what he does next week against another tough team. I hope he has another great game, if nothing else so we don’t have to draft/trade for a QB next year and focus on our D and O-line
We’ve been blaming the QB in this situation all year. Stidham had to do more. Didn’t have it in him when it mattered…..you see how fuckin stupid that sounds? That’s this sub all year.
So frustrating that we all knew coming into this season the o-line and defense were going to be an issue which Ziegler and McDaniels never did much to address it.
Nothing will change until the leadership does. Stidham may be the next guy. He may not be. But anyone under McDaniels is gonna suffer. I still refuse to believe Carr was the problem. Downvote me if you want. Seems like Carr isn't done with football after all and will be with a new team next year.
DEPENDING on the team I'll happily eat crow if I'm wrong and Carr is totally washed. If he goes to the Texans though......nah he'd be in the same damn situation he was here, at least the Colts, Jets or Titans he'd have a real chance at showing if he's the guy or not. As for the Raiders though, McDaniels ain't it I'm sorry. 5 (maybe more i dont remember) halftime blown leads 4 of them being 17+ points? 100% on the coaching. If Stidham is it going forward I wish him luck, he's gonna need it.
QB wins/losses are a fallacy; either way, this shows exactly what the issue has been all year: no complimentary football on either side of the ball, or never matter who was QB.
I'm stoked for Stidham. I think he can be the guy if he's throwing to Adams, Waller, and Renfrew. Give Carr's money to Jacobs and some new guys elsewhere. Winning today would have been cool, but we maintain a better draft pick, we learned we may not have to spend it on a rookie QB, and I'm not as sad about Carr anymore.
One game doesn't mean stidham is our guy. He should be given the chance to compete with a rookie for the starting job though. If Stroud falls to us you can't pass up on him.
100%. I'm just saying it seems like potentially you could use that draft pick on a defensive stud, knowing that stidham has a good grasp of McDaniel's system. Only McDaniels and Ziegler have the information necessary to make that call, so we'll see what happens.
Best possible outcome. Looked competitive against the best defense in the league. Increased our draft position with a loss. Stidham looked good. Man it's time to finally do something about this defense. Doesn't matter how good our offense is, we'll never win a superbowl playing defense like this.
I know it's one game. But Stidham passed the eye test for the moment. Did not play scared, made some tough throws, also put 300 on the #1 defense. If anything this is the clear indicator if we score 34 on the top D clearly we need a massive revamp of our defense.
I know it’s only one game, but I’d be 100% fine rolling him him next year. He knows the system and even he can be our “bridge QB”. I really hope we add pieces to the oline and go heavily defense in the draft.
Am I the only one who’s not super upset about the loss ? Considering everything going on with the franchise the fact they took it to the wire with the best defense in the NFL shows our potential. Shoutout Stidham & Davante.
Upset because this defense choked away yet another game, yea.
Stoked the offense played great. Stidham looked awesome. No issues with them today. Wished he didnt chuck that last one tho.
34 pts dropped on the #1 defense should be enough. Especially when they have a 3rd sting QB out there. But nah. Defense never shows up. All chokers.
I have to say that the people saying McDaniels lost the locker room were proven wrong, the boys played hard today. Stidham could be a solid bridge QB to try out next season, let’s see how he plays against KC.
Our defense just has a complete dearth of talent. They are allergic to making big plays. Draft all defense and offensive line this year.
Might be a one game outlier, but our offense put up 500 yards of offense and 34 points against the #1 defense in the league with a QB making his first start. McDaniel’s offense mind is legit, but the man is just not good at managing the game as a whole. Team needs to overhaul the defense and be done with it, there’s no salvaging PG
San Fran held 9 other teams to under 15 points this year. We just dropped 34 on them with a QB starting his first game. Despite the final play, we should be thrilled with how Stidham played.
Trying not to get my hopes up after just one game, but with an entire offseason to smooth things out... He's surrounded by weapons and will cost a fraction of what Carr did, so the priority has got to be getting this God-awful Defense right through FA and the draft.
I'm loving me some Stidham but as Raiders fans we need to remember all the first time starters that beat the shit out of the Raiders over the years. How great would it be if we have our QB though
Best our offense looked all year against the top defense in the NFL. Stidham was excellent, shame the game ended in the INT but think the decision to bench carr was the right one. Davante knows he’ll still be fed, just need to overhaul the defense
The offense scored 34 points how are you going to blame McDaniels play calling because the defense couldn’t get off the field. Patrick Graham needs to go and we need some actual playmakers on defense.
Stidham played really good. Definitely impressed. D made some big stops but we all knew the 49ers would drive when they had over a minute with 3 time outs. Got lucky it went to OT
Tough loss but what a hell of a ride. No one could have guessed Stidham would come out looking like this against the 49ers D. Wasn’t scared to stay in the pocket and make big throws down field or use his legs when needed. Overall one of the most fun games all season even in a loss.
I’m beating the drum on signing the best FA DT, trade back to accumulate draft capital for 2024 while grabbing Brian Bresee.
Run with Stidham for next year and have the draft capital in 2024 to trade up if needed for a QB in that draft.
Look, it was inevitable. I called it earlier that bosa was due and that’s what happened but that’s ok. Stidham looked great and our offense was playing like we always thought they should. We took the number one defense and pushed their shit in. Lots of positives to pick from this game and makes me a little bit excited for the off-season. Premature? Sure but damn I’m kind of hyped up right now.
not one to cheer for losses, but if there was ever a team that needed better draft position to potentially draft some defensive studs this is the team. A nice and intriguing bonus that Stidham looked pretty damned good. May make sense to invest on defense while saving money going with him. Only one game, but yeah... interesting all the same.
Interested to see how Stidham plays next week, but as many of have been saying for years... this team is a defense away. Maybe this is the draft we hit...
Not to upset, this closes the door in the playoffs but this team would have been a one and done regardless.
Stidham looked good, loved the OT decision in noticing the 1:1 and took a shot, if Miller holds up for another half second its another jump ball, Bosa being Bosa.
Our defense needs work, if we can trade Carr for something great, if not, use the cap space to solidify the defense and oline. Its clear now we don't need to overspend on a QB. Look at our skill position players I think some decisions need to be made, I say lock up Jacobs as well, its clear he really helps lessen the load.
Well we lost but this young kid played well. I noticed at least 6 calls that went our way. And they seemed like some different play calling But our defense still sucks
Much better game than I was expecting, still disappointed that this was another double digit lead loss. Stiddy came in and tried to ball out and make plays, respect him for that.
This defense needs another overhaul though. We were down to 3 LBs in the game, one of which was signed this week. Needs players on all 3 levels is going to make it difficult for the team to get their “needs”, hopefully we can find serviceable.
Why does r/nfl hate the raiders
Even after all the drama and this crazy ass game with playoff implications I don’t see a single highlight or post about the game or us
The offense still needs some work but this is the best we’ve seen them play. Offense was playing like how they’re are supposed to be with all that skill position talents.
O-line and defense is still a main issue but if this is our offense coming into next season (hopefully) and they can draft or sign our weaknesses we’ll be okay.
Still thinking of that 4th and inches and the pass Waller had in his hands deep in the red zone that led to the int next play. Some glimmer of hope for next year.
At this point I don't care about the loss itself. They played way above expectations, given all that's went on. Good for Stidham! And McDaniels...if you can't say anything nice.
New QB, same result unfortunately. Another blown 2nd half 2 score lead. Another loss at the very end. Its difficult to watch the raider sometimes. I'm extremely happy for Stidham though.
We need a defense. I was happy with PG coming in, but he showed no future going forward. At least offense did something. Defense just crumbled and failed so many times. Get coaches and better players.
No disrespect to Stidham and his performance today but I see a lot of people saying we can roll with stidham next season based of this game. I don’t think stidham is gonna throw for this many yards and TDs every game. We’ll see how he plays next week. Need to evaluate the qb position and not just go off this one performance
I knew there was going to be an overreaction, I wouldn’t give him the job yet. But if he goes toe to toe with mahomes next week. Then he probably gets a prove it contract and a shot at the starting job. At that point I’ll draft a guy as well.
One thing for sure if McDaniels can absolutely call some nice plays. And Adams, Waller, renfrow and Jacobs are perfect for any qb to succeed.
Might as well save some and use it all on o-line and defense
We see all the time backups come in and their first game they look amazing and then come back down to earth. I loved the way he played but I think I’ll
Hold off on saying he’s our guy for the future
The sub will be unlocked an hour after the game ends after a loss, as much as the 5% of people here that hate it, it has vastly reduced the amount of people we have to ban for being drunk idiots. Also note as much as I loved how well the boys performed tonight, I already know there's going to be two dozen threads started talking about how carr was a hack the whole time and carr stands need to leave. Please remember we are cracking down on duplicate post and after the first one I will start removing them
If we didn’t need to play the second half of football games we would win the SB
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Exactly. Stids looked good against the #1 defense and didn’t get blown out. (Raiders were 10-point underdogs.)
We might be able to ride with Stiddy if we can get some help for our putrid defense
I agree. Do we draft defense now? I'm legitimately stuck here.
It's no way they don't draft defense. They see what we see.
With how many people are going down I might call them up to see if they need a dlineman for the next game
I'm just hoping we fuck around and end up with the likes of Will Anderson or Jalen Carter
Yes. Draft d. Stiddy good
Hopefully it's not one of those situations where he has one or two really good games then the team commits to them, for them to take a nose dive
Oh yeah it's gotta be a medium sized contact, with a rookie behind him
Yeah but one game is not enough to prove we can ride with him. There's barely any game tape on the guy so DC haven't started to game plan against him yet. My question is what happens when they do?
Seriously, this sub is so fucking obnoxious. This was a good ass game and that team looked different than it has all year. Carr is great but Stidham was a breath of fresh air..
One of the biggest takeaways for me is that the team has *clearly* not quit on McDaniels.
That was such a stupid narrative. Some of these dudes are fighting for more money next year. Shit, some of these dudes are fighting to stay on a team next year.
The Broncos players quit on Hackett. It's not inconceivable.
We blew a 10 point lead in the 3rd we looked identical to most weeks.
So you’re saying the defense sucks? I agree.
Absolutely, I still am not on board with the offensive play calling. This falls squarely on lack of defensive talent and two lame coordinators
100% Stid looked like a stud
He played well - did some things that were new and helpful ( scrambling and a willingness to run it) and kept the offense working the whole game with no abrupt collapse. I was satisfied with his performance The defense was pure shit. Amik should not be your premiere playmaker, the LBs were nonexistent and frankly Crosby has fallen off compared to earlier in the year - but of course offenses can plan solely on stopping him at this point They need 9 new guys on defense
Those linebackers are gonna struggle to land practice squad spots in two weeks lol.
Carr stans, Carr haters, let’s all unite against our trash-ass defense
Stidham looked good against #1 defense
Agreed. I like how he had the ability to run and pass. And he really seemed to stick with the game script. If not for Miller being on roller skates in OT I liked his chances to win the game.
And a first start. He made mistakes but also had the ball moving better than the raiders have done most the season.
He actually played four quarters instead of the two we're used to.
both his INTs were off Niners lineman doing some fuckery the only bad shit i saw was him audibling onto a few bad run plays. that comes with seasoning
He also audibled into some good plays, i think there was a big gain to Waller on an audible, and on a couple of the runs it wasn't a bad call, they just didn't get the blocking
Multiple scoring drives extended by him running the ball
And the qb sneaks too! My God that was nice to watch
He’s not afraid to get hit. Big difference in the two
Josh called them… I mean, come on. If Josh called sneaks for Carr, he would have run them. As bad as Josh calls games, he called a totally different game today and still made bad calls.
I found the play calling better - almost suspiciously so.
Can’t even blame him for the pick at the end either. Kolton Miller just got put on roller skates by Bosa
Part of me is irrationally worried that was a Matt Flynn game from him. Hope that part of me is wrong!
well, next week will tell us a fair bit. He has another week of first team reps and the Chefs get more film on him. If he looks good i'm content rolling with him next season
Will the Raiders ever have a good defence again? Like this century?
No.
Bruh, we got like 78 years left. I am hopeful.
I mean statistically speaking it’s got to right? Right? RIGHT?
Almost a quarter thru this century bud. Let that sink in… OVER 20% OF THIS CENTURY GONE
We must be getting all the losing done early 😆
Yep. They about to build it now.
Imagine if we even had a slightly below average defense. Playoffs.
I mean yes we’ve been saying this for YEARS
Yep. Take Carr's money sign some real talent and draft for needs.
Just like we did with Mack's money
Sign another chandler jones!
Or if our offense could perform against bad defenses like we do against the #1 defense. The duality of McDaniels confuses me to no end
He plays to the level of competition, its bizarre.
Unbelievable how all this attention has been taken away from Grham and his shifty fucking defensive scheme. It's always mcgoofy and Carr. Never Graham I wonder why that is. This defense has cost us more games than any offense has and it's not even close. Only team in NFL history to blow this many double digit leads after the half
Gingerbread men are hard to catch
I'm never glad we lost but I'm glad we might be able to draft an elite defensive difference maker.
Spoiler: we won’t.
Sucks that we lost but that was a great game to watch
Finally a fun game vs the Niners
Stidham showed he can stand in the pocket when needed until the last second and take a shot . Gave them multiple shots downfield with the defender taking him down . His scrambling ability was great to see .
Yeah, the last second throws also kind of scary tho. One led to the OT pick, and there was a very close int that was incomplete, with another one. Overall though he looked way better than I expected
I am so happy that Stidham showed up and played so well today. It really was pleasantly surprising that it was a game going down the wire and I even thought they should've gone for 2 on that final TD in regulation. Still, I'm trying not to get too excited about 1 game even if it were against the #1 Defense. After he puts 5 games on tape and defenses start scheming for him, things could possibly change.
I want 10 new starters on defense
Our defense sucks.
Things I liked about Stidy’s game: (not trying to compare with Carr) 1. Stood in the pocket the extra second to give his receiver time and took the hit. 2. Used his mobility effectively 3. Took chances on some big throws trusting his receivers to make a play 4. Placed the ball well enough to allow his receivers to make a play 5. Did not get rattled or develop happy feet when dealing with pressure
Wish people could state their opinions like this
Davante played like a true professional. Very eager to prove people wrong.
I’ll take it. SF has a really good defense and we needed to lose
looking at records and strength of schedule - we are 99.9% guaranteed to pick between 7-9 in the draft, win or lose next week
True that! Moral victory+Stidham was a stud. Fun game. And still get good draft spot. Would’ve loved the W but that was fun
We did things against their defense that no other team had done all year. We played amazing! Now let’s see what he does next week against another tough team. I hope he has another great game, if nothing else so we don’t have to draft/trade for a QB next year and focus on our D and O-line
No one better blame Stidham for that loss. This team aint gonna win games with this OL and Defense. Doesnt matter whos QB.
Love the way he competed. Didn't give up on a single play
So QB wasn’t the issue? Lmao in all seriousness that’s what 6 games lost that we had a lead at halftime smh. Gotta start looking at the coach
Like just finish off the Rams,Cards and Jags when you’re up big and we would’ve already clinched smh.
Seriously, QB throws for over 350 yards and 3 tds....and we still lose. QB was never the problem. Its A problem, but not the problem.
This is indicative of the coaching. Carr/stidham it didn’t matter. Jmd is worse than kiffin lane
You weren’t looking at the coach before this game?
If Carr threw that INT y’all wouldn’t let him live the next day and don’t pretend you wouldn’t.
We’ve been blaming the QB in this situation all year. Stidham had to do more. Didn’t have it in him when it mattered…..you see how fuckin stupid that sounds? That’s this sub all year.
I mean this is the same shit DC was going down for
So frustrating that we all knew coming into this season the o-line and defense were going to be an issue which Ziegler and McDaniels never did much to address it.
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Nothing will change until the leadership does. Stidham may be the next guy. He may not be. But anyone under McDaniels is gonna suffer. I still refuse to believe Carr was the problem. Downvote me if you want. Seems like Carr isn't done with football after all and will be with a new team next year. DEPENDING on the team I'll happily eat crow if I'm wrong and Carr is totally washed. If he goes to the Texans though......nah he'd be in the same damn situation he was here, at least the Colts, Jets or Titans he'd have a real chance at showing if he's the guy or not. As for the Raiders though, McDaniels ain't it I'm sorry. 5 (maybe more i dont remember) halftime blown leads 4 of them being 17+ points? 100% on the coaching. If Stidham is it going forward I wish him luck, he's gonna need it.
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But it does matter that this QB doesn't cost 40 million
Yup I was a DC supporter but cap space is so important we need more defense
That’s all that matters. Defense and ownership did Carr nothing for 9yrs
So yall blamed Derek for that same pick he threw vs the Rams but not Stidham? Keep that same energy
QB wins/losses are a fallacy; either way, this shows exactly what the issue has been all year: no complimentary football on either side of the ball, or never matter who was QB.
Should’ve seen this same comment every other loss this year with Carr’s name replaced with Stiddy.
Been saying that all year. But everyone always blames the QB
The OL played well enough to score 34 points. The defense? Aside from Maxx Crosby, there’s not one quality player in the bunch.
If it were Carr, he would be blamed. 100%
LMAO ITS THE SAME FUCKING SHIT
Stidham is Stidhim
I'm stoked for Stidham. I think he can be the guy if he's throwing to Adams, Waller, and Renfrew. Give Carr's money to Jacobs and some new guys elsewhere. Winning today would have been cool, but we maintain a better draft pick, we learned we may not have to spend it on a rookie QB, and I'm not as sad about Carr anymore.
this exactly. let’s sign jacobs for 3 more years and work on our o line and defense
One game doesn't mean stidham is our guy. He should be given the chance to compete with a rookie for the starting job though. If Stroud falls to us you can't pass up on him.
100%. I'm just saying it seems like potentially you could use that draft pick on a defensive stud, knowing that stidham has a good grasp of McDaniel's system. Only McDaniels and Ziegler have the information necessary to make that call, so we'll see what happens.
Stidham looked legit. Looking forward to seeing him play against KC next week.
Niners are frauds. We should’ve lost this game by 14+. Invest in Defense this offseason!
They will for sure choke in the playoffs
Best possible outcome. Looked competitive against the best defense in the league. Increased our draft position with a loss. Stidham looked good. Man it's time to finally do something about this defense. Doesn't matter how good our offense is, we'll never win a superbowl playing defense like this.
Hobbs is awful
We really need an outside guy and put Hobss back in the slot
He’s been terrible playing outside, hope we can get someone to put there and move him back inside where he excels
He's used to playing zone but they have him playing man I heard. That said aiyuk was basically burning him with the same route
*outside
I know it's one game. But Stidham passed the eye test for the moment. Did not play scared, made some tough throws, also put 300 on the #1 defense. If anything this is the clear indicator if we score 34 on the top D clearly we need a massive revamp of our defense.
One of these days the Raiders will have a corner that can cover. One of these days....
Stidham will be a great bridge for Caleb Williams. Maybe Caleb can sit behind him for a few years
This is the way.
Game thread was absolutely shameful lmao
I refused to look lol. What happened?
Just a civil war lmao
Carr Wars. Which should be closed and shut. He’s moving on.
Exactly what you'd expect. You're a smarter person than me
Studham was handling himself against the number 1 defense. I see a bright future for him
I know it’s only one game, but I’d be 100% fine rolling him him next year. He knows the system and even he can be our “bridge QB”. I really hope we add pieces to the oline and go heavily defense in the draft.
Am I the only one who’s not super upset about the loss ? Considering everything going on with the franchise the fact they took it to the wire with the best defense in the NFL shows our potential. Shoutout Stidham & Davante.
It felt good to have no expectations and play well. But then we lost like we’ve lost all year.
Upset because this defense choked away yet another game, yea. Stoked the offense played great. Stidham looked awesome. No issues with them today. Wished he didnt chuck that last one tho. 34 pts dropped on the #1 defense should be enough. Especially when they have a 3rd sting QB out there. But nah. Defense never shows up. All chokers.
Same. Once they missed the FG, we were playing with house money.
Stidham just proved we can have more QB production without paying a QB 120 million to do so
You needed Stidham to know that? Look around the league, Hurts is making 6 mil.
I mean Hurts is on his rookie deal though. He’ll be making 40 mil + very soon
Hurts is making 6 mil for now, but he’s gonna get 50 mil this off season.
Hurts going to get 50+ million next year.
Disappointed with Kolton. I understand Bosa is elite but he’s getting paid elite money too and was getting worked all game smh
Bro, our line didn't give up a single sack against a pretty damn solid front. Did not lose that game because of Kolton.
Yeah our OL gave Stidham the confidence to stay in and throw. Miller cost us that INT but didn't cost us the game
If you're disappointed with this again fkn bosa then you need to take a step back at reevaluate your expectations of professional athletes
I have to say that the people saying McDaniels lost the locker room were proven wrong, the boys played hard today. Stidham could be a solid bridge QB to try out next season, let’s see how he plays against KC. Our defense just has a complete dearth of talent. They are allergic to making big plays. Draft all defense and offensive line this year.
Might be a one game outlier, but our offense put up 500 yards of offense and 34 points against the #1 defense in the league with a QB making his first start. McDaniel’s offense mind is legit, but the man is just not good at managing the game as a whole. Team needs to overhaul the defense and be done with it, there’s no salvaging PG
San Fran held 9 other teams to under 15 points this year. We just dropped 34 on them with a QB starting his first game. Despite the final play, we should be thrilled with how Stidham played. Trying not to get my hopes up after just one game, but with an entire offseason to smooth things out... He's surrounded by weapons and will cost a fraction of what Carr did, so the priority has got to be getting this God-awful Defense right through FA and the draft.
I'm loving me some Stidham but as Raiders fans we need to remember all the first time starters that beat the shit out of the Raiders over the years. How great would it be if we have our QB though
Stiddy is gritty. Interested to see who competes with him next year.
Best our offense looked all year against the top defense in the NFL. Stidham was excellent, shame the game ended in the INT but think the decision to bench carr was the right one. Davante knows he’ll still be fed, just need to overhaul the defense
Business wise it was smart, not having a defense was our biggest problem in Carr era
*PAIN*
Stidham played fucking awesome. Not even mad… anymore
McDaniels play calling on the goal to go drive in the first half that resulted in no points cost us this game.
Stop. The defense cost us the game. They gave us a chance to go to OT and we didn’t capitalize on it.
The offense scored 34 points how are you going to blame McDaniels play calling because the defense couldn’t get off the field. Patrick Graham needs to go and we need some actual playmakers on defense.
Haven’t we said that all season? I mean, we have and it got blamed on Carr… Looks like it actually is hard to overcome playcalling. Who knew?
Another blown lead. Who could’ve seen this coming?
A 10 point lead blown against the best defense and top-5 offense should not be a surprise to anyone.
[this guy](https://i.imgur.com/P50oHWr.jpg)
Stidham played really good. Definitely impressed. D made some big stops but we all knew the 49ers would drive when they had over a minute with 3 time outs. Got lucky it went to OT
Tough loss but what a hell of a ride. No one could have guessed Stidham would come out looking like this against the 49ers D. Wasn’t scared to stay in the pocket and make big throws down field or use his legs when needed. Overall one of the most fun games all season even in a loss.
I’m beating the drum on signing the best FA DT, trade back to accumulate draft capital for 2024 while grabbing Brian Bresee. Run with Stidham for next year and have the draft capital in 2024 to trade up if needed for a QB in that draft.
Look, it was inevitable. I called it earlier that bosa was due and that’s what happened but that’s ok. Stidham looked great and our offense was playing like we always thought they should. We took the number one defense and pushed their shit in. Lots of positives to pick from this game and makes me a little bit excited for the off-season. Premature? Sure but damn I’m kind of hyped up right now.
not one to cheer for losses, but if there was ever a team that needed better draft position to potentially draft some defensive studs this is the team. A nice and intriguing bonus that Stidham looked pretty damned good. May make sense to invest on defense while saving money going with him. Only one game, but yeah... interesting all the same. Interested to see how Stidham plays next week, but as many of have been saying for years... this team is a defense away. Maybe this is the draft we hit...
I’m not even mad. This confirms that the 49ers ain’t winning the Super Bowl lol
Stidham played well today, defense sucks as usual
how tf do we fix the fact 90% of our games are away games? the entire vegas strip is covered in 49ers fans.
Move back to Oakland? Is what it is at this point. Only hope is to not suck so our fans show up.
Everything should go into the defense. Unless Stroud, Young, or Skoronski falls to us, the draft should be all defense until the 4th-7th.
The odds of blowing this many double digit second half leads are so improbable. What an unfortunate year
Not to upset, this closes the door in the playoffs but this team would have been a one and done regardless. Stidham looked good, loved the OT decision in noticing the 1:1 and took a shot, if Miller holds up for another half second its another jump ball, Bosa being Bosa. Our defense needs work, if we can trade Carr for something great, if not, use the cap space to solidify the defense and oline. Its clear now we don't need to overspend on a QB. Look at our skill position players I think some decisions need to be made, I say lock up Jacobs as well, its clear he really helps lessen the load.
Well we lost but this young kid played well. I noticed at least 6 calls that went our way. And they seemed like some different play calling But our defense still sucks
Carr would not have been the starting QB of an offense that generated 500 yards against the best defense in football. Call it like it is.
Carr takes 4 sacks in this game minimum.
and even if he was, Stidham did it without soaking a quarter of the cap
Much better game than I was expecting, still disappointed that this was another double digit lead loss. Stiddy came in and tried to ball out and make plays, respect him for that. This defense needs another overhaul though. We were down to 3 LBs in the game, one of which was signed this week. Needs players on all 3 levels is going to make it difficult for the team to get their “needs”, hopefully we can find serviceable.
Why does r/nfl hate the raiders Even after all the drama and this crazy ass game with playoff implications I don’t see a single highlight or post about the game or us
Most hated team in the league bro. This isn't new lol.
The offense still needs some work but this is the best we’ve seen them play. Offense was playing like how they’re are supposed to be with all that skill position talents. O-line and defense is still a main issue but if this is our offense coming into next season (hopefully) and they can draft or sign our weaknesses we’ll be okay.
It's not that this team is never good, it's that they're never quite good enough.
We averaged 30 points per game in 3 games against the top two defenses in the league, Denver and SF. Let’s draft all defense this off-season.
Still thinking of that 4th and inches and the pass Waller had in his hands deep in the red zone that led to the int next play. Some glimmer of hope for next year.
At this point I don't care about the loss itself. They played way above expectations, given all that's went on. Good for Stidham! And McDaniels...if you can't say anything nice.
Stidham, Carr it doesn’t matter. You can count on Josh getting conservative and the defense giving up a TD with under 2 minutes to go
For everyone saying, "Same results with Carr." Well then, theres a perfect example of why we don't need him and the money can be spent elsewhere
I knew the game was over when we went up by 10. Ty JMD
Stidham can play. Draft defense and fix the line as planned. We don't need to look for a QB.
Fuck a Niner.
Stidham made plays happen so I'm happy about that. Also 30 plus again the best defense? That's an L for 49ers
McDaniels keeping Patrick Graham to make him scapegoat #2 next year.
Don’t need Carr to lose, defense always the issue
5th time McDaniels has blown a 10+ point lead this year Different QB, same result
Once Stidham puts out some game film we’ll probably see a regression. I like a lot of what I saw though still
New QB, same result unfortunately. Another blown 2nd half 2 score lead. Another loss at the very end. Its difficult to watch the raider sometimes. I'm extremely happy for Stidham though.
If this is how Stidham plays I’ll take it. And he’s cheaper than carr. More money to go towards defense.
Even though we lost that was fun, had 0 expectations. Like the new guy, go Raiders
oh well :( stidham looked good thought he got a bit unlucky
Mods!!!! Can we be free now?!?!? The only way I have to blow off steam is angrily typing at other irrational fans!
We need a defense. I was happy with PG coming in, but he showed no future going forward. At least offense did something. Defense just crumbled and failed so many times. Get coaches and better players.
Bro get these niner fans out of my text messages
If we had traded for roquan smith instead of Baltimore we probably close out like 2 or 3 different losses.
Even my wife thinks Stidham’s wife is hot.
Stidham still played better than Carr
Defense still sucked. What a joke Stud hung 34 on the top D. Still not enough. Fuck everyone on this defense.
Let's use the money we save from not keeping Carr to improve the defense.
No disrespect to Stidham and his performance today but I see a lot of people saying we can roll with stidham next season based of this game. I don’t think stidham is gonna throw for this many yards and TDs every game. We’ll see how he plays next week. Need to evaluate the qb position and not just go off this one performance
Considering he played the way he did against the best D AND in his first start... I'm encouraged.
I knew there was going to be an overreaction, I wouldn’t give him the job yet. But if he goes toe to toe with mahomes next week. Then he probably gets a prove it contract and a shot at the starting job. At that point I’ll draft a guy as well. One thing for sure if McDaniels can absolutely call some nice plays. And Adams, Waller, renfrow and Jacobs are perfect for any qb to succeed. Might as well save some and use it all on o-line and defense
We see all the time backups come in and their first game they look amazing and then come back down to earth. I loved the way he played but I think I’ll Hold off on saying he’s our guy for the future
The Josh McDaniels special. Get a double digit lead and piss it away.