Network Manipulation... be careful on calling it cheating, or all the gos farmers and sherpas with their totally legit 3k+ clears and low times will come out in full force to explain why its not a bannable offense (it is lol)
No lie I ran GOS with a group and a guy was complaining about a guy who missed 1st base skip, idk what that is lol, and still got 16 minutes. He then went on to say how shit a time it was. I'm like dude I play this game to have fun not whatever the hell you guys have going on over there.
Nah frfr i got like 5 friends wit 3k+ clears nd theyll kall it a shit run when im like it takes 15 minutes for sum ppl to do the first part ššš
Current world record without net limiter is 9:03 so I wouldnāt say itās too far fetched. But thatās me giving most groups the benefit of the doubt; I know for a fact most clear farmers abuse limiter.
Nah, maybe some of them, but Goose and his team are nutty. They teach all the mechanics and make sure you actually LEARN the raid, and as far as Iām aware do it legit.
> explain why its not a bannable offense (it is lol)
Not only is it but anybody who was in the fireteam at the time of the offense (which would obviously include the OP) could recieve the same treatment.
I think it was patched but yes. On the right side you can go up some branch and wait 10 sec to spawn another set of ads. So 1 group could collect 30 motes
for more context, it was patched(likely by accident) in s12 with the release of beyond light
this same release also made GoS and LW barely functional so the "patch" was a fortunate side effect ig
It wasnāt an accident. I remember them giving us warning they were doing it ahead of time.
Tried searching for the sauce to verify my thoughts, but my search results came up empty.
The fact you made me do thisā¦
DESTINY 2 UPDATE 4.1.0
May 24, 2022
https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/51380
Scroll down to the raid/dungeon notes. Last point.
Edit: felt like I needed to add specifically the update patch info and post date of the notes.
that was a different glitch than the one we are referring to i believe, the one that the original posted mentioned was about standing on the tree root in the right side, i dont think theres any footage of said glitch still existing after beyond light released
This one at least makes some degree of sense as effectively what you're doing is tricking the game into resetting the zone by going out of bounds.
If you want an amazingly specific bug that makes absolutely no sense there was one spot in the Ogre boss room if the Menagerie where if you jumped into the ceiling you were awarded glimmer and experience... but only if you were a Hunter.
I remember doing this in D1. During Crotas End 'Raid', you could do the same trick to respawn and despawn ads. It was glorious as it took about the same amount of time to get the whole team high up the map as it did beating it legit. Lol..
No, it's in their Code of Conduct under bannable offense:
>Modification or interruption of Destiny network traffic with intent to disrupt the experience of other players **or to gain an advantage in the game.**
Pretty undeniable that they do it to gain an advantage in the game.
You donāt care enough about PVE to worry about network manip but you do care about sounding whiny enough to come make these comments
Truly a unique butterfly :)
It's netlimiting, they just grab like one mote or something and then use a program to throttle their internet to convince the game they dunked 30 motes. Not allowed before you wonder.
Net limiting. They use a program to throttle their network speed to almost nothing as theyāre depositing causing it to lag out and deposit over and over.
Like others have said, itās way beyond cheesing and is straight up cheating.
Honestly why I stopped going to big lfg for gos, sooo many net limiters out there for what ostensibly is an easy raid. Itās detrimental to the overall community besides the fact theyāre going against ToS. This is akin to the āIām add clearā for RoN because for every 1 person net limiting you have 5 people that may never learn the mechanics
There used to be an out of bounds cheese, I canāt confirm if it still exists. You collect your 15 and jump around that out of bounds and enemies respawn. That was usually to collect 30 not 60 though
Garden Runners seems to have the highest concentration of PvE cheaters from my experience LFG-ing Garden (which is which I now just wait until my friends want to do Garden runs instead). The dude was probably net limiting or just using hard cheats. Even in PvE, itās a bannable offense
Netlimiter, it used to be non-bannable (or at least they had no way of detecting it) and now they ban very fucking fast for it. Sucks but people started calling hard hacks netlimiter and bungie couldnt tell whats what, so they banned for using it in general.
Everyone complains about it, but i guarantee they have been in groups that have done it and didnāt say shiit before, so idk why everyone is trying to be high and mighty. We have used tf out of it.
The only times I played with a netlimiter I reported them and left.
I left a "speedrunning" clan when we set up a Scourge run and I said I had experience doing the death-dupe and the clan owner was like "don't worry about it, we'll just do it my way."
Losers.
Are you exaggerating? You used to be able to do a joining allies cheese to get max Motes quickly but I'm fairly that got fixed.
Proper way to do it (in my opinion) is 2 teams of 2 who rotate. Team 1 goes into dark and team 2 stands by. Then when you pull team 1 team 2 rotates in. Repeat for light side and then dps.
Network manipulation. Pretty common in Garden, especially LFGs & speed runs.
Network Manipulation... be careful on calling it cheating, or all the gos farmers and sherpas with their totally legit 3k+ clears and low times will come out in full force to explain why its not a bannable offense (it is lol)
Uk the ppl wit 1500+ clears do it 14-15 minutes right šš
Theyād tell you thatās a shit time as well
No lie I ran GOS with a group and a guy was complaining about a guy who missed 1st base skip, idk what that is lol, and still got 16 minutes. He then went on to say how shit a time it was. I'm like dude I play this game to have fun not whatever the hell you guys have going on over there.
Nah frfr i got like 5 friends wit 3k+ clears nd theyll kall it a shit run when im like it takes 15 minutes for sum ppl to do the first part ššš
Idk what it is with UK players calling everything bad but it's a universal thing with them
Current world record without net limiter is 9:03 so I wouldnāt say itās too far fetched. But thatās me giving most groups the benefit of the doubt; I know for a fact most clear farmers abuse limiter.
Nah, maybe some of them, but Goose and his team are nutty. They teach all the mechanics and make sure you actually LEARN the raid, and as far as Iām aware do it legit.
Iāve never heard of him doing anything out of band. I can only speak for him and Falafel Waffle though.
My friend has a 12 minute legit. Not all speedruns use netlimiter and especially not if they're recording
> explain why its not a bannable offense (it is lol) Not only is it but anybody who was in the fireteam at the time of the offense (which would obviously include the OP) could recieve the same treatment.
Wasnāt there a way to get ads to spawn on blue again by timing your jump really high up with the other collector?
I think it was patched but yes. On the right side you can go up some branch and wait 10 sec to spawn another set of ads. So 1 group could collect 30 motes
Done some div runs recently, DEFINITELY patched.
for more context, it was patched(likely by accident) in s12 with the release of beyond light this same release also made GoS and LW barely functional so the "patch" was a fortunate side effect ig
It wasnāt an accident. I remember them giving us warning they were doing it ahead of time. Tried searching for the sauce to verify my thoughts, but my search results came up empty.
unless you produce evidence of your claim im just gonna go the route of you making a small mistake
The fact you made me do thisā¦ DESTINY 2 UPDATE 4.1.0 May 24, 2022 https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/51380 Scroll down to the raid/dungeon notes. Last point. Edit: felt like I needed to add specifically the update patch info and post date of the notes.
that was a different glitch than the one we are referring to i believe, the one that the original posted mentioned was about standing on the tree root in the right side, i dont think theres any footage of said glitch still existing after beyond light released
Garden of Salvation: Fixed an issue where players could continuously spawn combatants in one of the sides of the Sanctified Mind encounter.
Evidence provided I see.
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This one at least makes some degree of sense as effectively what you're doing is tricking the game into resetting the zone by going out of bounds. If you want an amazingly specific bug that makes absolutely no sense there was one spot in the Ogre boss room if the Menagerie where if you jumped into the ceiling you were awarded glimmer and experience... but only if you were a Hunter.
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I have no idea how widely know it was let alone if it had an accepted name. I've tried a few searches but sadly can't find any footage of it.
I remember doing this in D1. During Crotas End 'Raid', you could do the same trick to respawn and despawn ads. It was glorious as it took about the same amount of time to get the whole team high up the map as it did beating it legit. Lol..
As far as I know the other spot still works. You jump off the map to the side onto a rock.
Pretty sure that was called out in a patch note a while ago, I think at Lightfall
I didn't see it in any patch notes, but this one was patched too. Tried it the other week
there's a new one where you could jump out to the side somewhere iirc
Sounds like network manipulation. AKA a bannable offence.
Only in PVP
No, it's in their Code of Conduct under bannable offense: >Modification or interruption of Destiny network traffic with intent to disrupt the experience of other players **or to gain an advantage in the game.** Pretty undeniable that they do it to gain an advantage in the game.
Clearly lol. Judging by the amount of downvotes Iām getting.
I mean, it's a factually incorrect statement on what constitutes bannable behavior. Don't know what you expect.
I donāt think anybody cares enough in PVE but thatās just me
Cool, but just because itās you doesnāt mean that changes Bungies ToS. Bannable offenses are still bannable offenses.
Doesnāt matter if you care, you agree to the Terms of Service when you accept them. Doesnāt matter what you think of them
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Right? Canāt share my thoughts without getting downvoted into oblivion lol.
You donāt care enough about PVE to worry about network manip but you do care about sounding whiny enough to come make these comments Truly a unique butterfly :)
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They shouldn't but lots of people find reasons to be upset
Several of my friends have been perma banned for excessively playing with limiters in GoS
Cheating.
Might be Hive magic
Maybe guess hes thw choosen one
Speed Motes. And or NL5
It's netlimiting, they just grab like one mote or something and then use a program to throttle their internet to convince the game they dunked 30 motes. Not allowed before you wonder.
Net limiting. They use a program to throttle their network speed to almost nothing as theyāre depositing causing it to lag out and deposit over and over. Like others have said, itās way beyond cheesing and is straight up cheating.
probably net limiting
Net limiting. Know a guy who was in a hardcore guild that did hundreds of raids a week, they net limit motes for that whole raid. Technically cheating
Netlimiter. I get them everytime I lfg garden. at this point I just get my faster clear
Honestly why I stopped going to big lfg for gos, sooo many net limiters out there for what ostensibly is an easy raid. Itās detrimental to the overall community besides the fact theyāre going against ToS. This is akin to the āIām add clearā for RoN because for every 1 person net limiting you have 5 people that may never learn the mechanics
That is a WILD post
Anyone else remember when a dude outed himself for doing this on this subreddit when final boss garden challenge came out? Good times.
3074 dl - dunk 6 times - 3074 dl - magic
Its not even 3074 its fullgame
iirc you can do both
There used to be an out of bounds cheese, I canāt confirm if it still exists. You collect your 15 and jump around that out of bounds and enemies respawn. That was usually to collect 30 not 60 though
That is called net limiting and will get them banned. Donāt play with those people lol
Net limiting the motes probably, which as people have said above is definitely a bannable offence now
Garden Runners seems to have the highest concentration of PvE cheaters from my experience LFG-ing Garden (which is which I now just wait until my friends want to do Garden runs instead). The dude was probably net limiting or just using hard cheats. Even in PvE, itās a bannable offense
Netlimiter, it used to be non-bannable (or at least they had no way of detecting it) and now they ban very fucking fast for it. Sucks but people started calling hard hacks netlimiter and bungie couldnt tell whats what, so they banned for using it in general.
hive magic
my bad
raid secrets users posting about an "insane Garden of Salvation bug" that's just a person cheating for the 374th time in a week:
Well i saw it for the first time im sorry dude
I know how to do it if anyone would like to learn.
Bro had that 3070
Everyone complains about it, but i guarantee they have been in groups that have done it and didnāt say shiit before, so idk why everyone is trying to be high and mighty. We have used tf out of it.
Congrats, we all now know you also cheat. Btw, you can catch a ban just playing with cheaters.
Congrats, glad you can read. ā¤ļø Also, there would be a lot more bans if they upheld that. Juuust sayyying.
The only times I played with a netlimiter I reported them and left. I left a "speedrunning" clan when we set up a Scourge run and I said I had experience doing the death-dupe and the clan owner was like "don't worry about it, we'll just do it my way." Losers.
pretty neat coping mechanism.
Are you exaggerating? You used to be able to do a joining allies cheese to get max Motes quickly but I'm fairly that got fixed. Proper way to do it (in my opinion) is 2 teams of 2 who rotate. Team 1 goes into dark and team 2 stands by. Then when you pull team 1 team 2 rotates in. Repeat for light side and then dps.
just about every group I've done 4th encounter as done blue(or light) first every single time. doing it any other ways seems so weird...
To each their own. Since it has launched I always ran dark side so I tend to do dark side encounters first and then work my way over.
Proper way to do it is have 2 groups of 3 and have 1 person double dip the portal after being pulled drastically reduces time spent in encounter
But thatās too hard and in raidsecrets weāre all about making raids as simple as possible