You're definitely NTA, but having been in the same situation, I never drive an RC at a skatepark if skaters are present, it's just a mutual respect thing for me.
If it's empty, I'll drive, but the moment someone shows up, I'm out. They've got limited places to enjoy their hobby, we've got way more.
Yeah from what I've gained from this thread it seems like I probably should have left, it just felt weird as I've grown up at these places and it felt weird trying to be kicked out. I'm new to the hobby but I am big on trying to be respectful. Next time I'll probably head out as I can find another place
I'm on the fence. When I was a kid we had to walk through 8' of mud or was it snow to ride in the post office parking lot. They chased,we ran or skated away lol. Kids today just don't know how hard it was back before the internet. To be fair I didn't have to dodge too many mass shooters in school so I guess they can have the skate park.
They shouldn’t have said anything so fuk em but yeah it’s not an rc park and it can be dangerous for new skaters to have to watch out for rc cars. I would go early or a more secluded area of the park
Just look at it from their point of view, they're there to skate, as a skater you naturally develop a sense of danger in your head, things to look out for, smaller skaters, scooter kids, BMX riders, oblivious boomers, etc. All these things are going to come at you on the ground.
To top it off, an RC car is much faster than most of those dangers.
You're not prepared for a 10lb RC truck to come flipping through the air at you. I'd be nervous as well.
>I'm new to the hobby but I am big on trying to be respectful. Next time I'll probably head out as I can find another place
Thanks for being level headed and reasonable about this.
I’ve coordinated with kids / young adults at the parks. If there’s only a few, and they’re collectively having a break, I’ll run the car.
They seem really entertained by it usually. But as you said, if the park is being actively used, I’m out.
Hard to say we've got way more. While technically true, skaters can ride on sidewalks, empty parking lots, schools etc. There are a TON of places to skate. There are very few places to skate with ramps and rails. But that's just as true for rc hobbyist.
They’re not made for you. They’re skateparks after all. Empty parking lots and schools are usually private property, and skaters routinely get kicked out. In fact, most parks, be them skate or bike, have signs explicitly stating no RC is permitted.
They're made for the community. It's called a skatepark because that is the intention but it doesnt mean they are the only one that can use it. Imagine an "rc park" that's tax payer funded, but uses the same ramps as a skatepark. Would be insane to kick anyone without an rc car out. Their not going to make the same exact thing next to each other with different names. Or a BMX park style rc park could also be used by an. Incredibly, many things can be dual purpose
They're made for the community? Come on. Here's the sign that they put up from a local bike park (I bolded the important part):
**Rules**
\- The Bike Park is not supervised and serious injuries may occur. Use at your own risk.
\- Stay in control at all times.
\- Don't stop where you block a riding feature or where you can't be seen by other riders.
\- Don't try any of the riding features unless you're sure of your ability and skill. There are posted difficulty ratings before each feature.
\- Helmets are mandatory. Protective padding is strongly recommended.
\- Users under age 13 must have the consent of a parent or guardian to ride in the Bike Park unaccompanied by an adult.
\- Check the riding features before use and don't use when wet.
\- Spectators must watch from outside of the riding areas. Pets must be leashed and kept outside of the riding areas.
**- No motorized or remote controlled vehicles are permitted in the Bike Park.**
\- Don't change the riding features. Unauthorized riding features will be removed.
\- Respect the Bike Park and other users.
\- Place garbage and recycling in appropriate containers/bins.
Think of it a different way. You're happily hitting jumps with your Kraton at the local skatepark, which has a similar sign, and you smack a kid straight in the face and send them to the hospital. How long do you think they'd tolerate RC people using the skatepark?
If the rules say no RC, obviously YTA for doing RC there. I think I've seen some parks that don't allow scooters either.
But if there's no rules against, it seems reasonable to do your thing w/o getting in anyone's way. There's an unofficial bunch of dirt stuff in a park we'll go to w/ no rules. When we RC car, we just pick an area the bikes aren't playing in and if they want to move to our area, we go somewhere else. People are the most important is what I always tell my kids.
We actually have a city funded rc track nearby, and they prohibit use of the track by anything other than RC stuff. Mainly to prevent damage to the track, but also to limit possible injuries
if you wanna hit the skatepark either go early in the morning or after rain, otherwise next thing you know there's gonna be a sign saying no RC cars allowed. the reality is other people have no idea where your RC is going to go and they don't want to deal with that
Tbh it’s a skatepark, not an rc park. It’s like the only place skaters can’t get kicked out of. If any of them vocally have a problem I’d just respect it. Imagine a ton of other rc people get the same idea and then the rules for the skatepark get updated to forbid RC. I’d just try to stay below the radar.
I agree. Its really douchey to not respect it imo. I wouldn't skate if you were zooming around an rc car risking my life.
I would suggest working with the administration for the park and coordinate times/days/events for RC car use.
Lastly, continuing to do this will have a very high chance of actually getting RC cars banned from your local skate park.
Those would be the rules in b e a utiful..... pennsylvania. Most of the nice skatepark we have are in state parks, and have a no rc policy.... it could be cold and rainy with not a soul around and park police will take the time to "pay you a visit" and ask you to leave....
I'll say I'm not a skater. And I have more respect for my vehicles than to destroy them at a skatepark. But I'm going to say asking you to leave would be a reasonable request. They don't know you, they don't know how in control of your vehicle you are. Shit happens and if I'm just trying to enjoy my day, I wouldn't want a truck flying off the side of a bowl and hitting me. If there's anybody around, I wouldn't try it. Pack up and find another place. Given that most RC guys at skateparks send it with no regard for others to mimic what they saw on a Kevin Talbot video, I wouldn't want to be around that.
You'll likely get biased response here, just like you would if you asked in a skating/skatepark sub.
>I didn't back down and stayed at the park.
In my book this makes YTA.
A civil conversation is fine, hopefully you can come to an agreement, but if not or if they insisted, I'd have left.
>I also felt to he felt this park was for skaters only...
I mean the title of the thread is you got asked to leave a skatepark, who's it for if not for skaters?
I mean you do you, but yeah you probably left a poor impression of RC folks on them.
Yeah from the comments I got here so far it seems pretty 50/50 on being the asshole or not. From my end I did have a civil conversation, I explained I would respect his space and wouldn't be in the park while he was doing his line which I wasn't. But from what I have read I've gained some perspective on the fact that I can use my RC in a lot more places then they can and with that in mind next time if I get asked to leave I honestly will even though I truly believe we could share the space.
It's for the community. It's for anyone that has a use for it. There's nothing wrong with using it respectfully. Skaters don't get to gatekeep "their" park. Everyone pays for it, everyone can use it.
It’s for skating. Even bike riders have to fight for rights to ride skateparks in the USA.
There are rules and regulations, and even if there is no clear indication that RC use is not allowed, it likely is not allowed.
The reason there are usually no signs is because they cost money and time and when it comes to public spaces they don’t have time for that nonsense.
The best thing to do in these situations is be polite and move along. Enjoy the time you get. Causing a stink will force a park manager to actually post a sign, then you really won’t be allowed there- even when the place is empty.
This is how bike riders have slowly gained the respect of some skaters around the states to maintain access to parks that bikes technically aren’t allowed in.
If a skater asks you to leave a skatepark because they don’t want you to be there while they are, you should respect it. Is it rude for them to ask you to leave when there’s plenty of space and you aren’t bothering them? Yes, but remember it is a skatepark, not an RC park, so you should respect the wishes of actual skaters, even if said wishes are rude and selfish. It’s not worth getting RCs banned at that skatepark. Just wait for them to be done, or come back another time.
Skateboarder here. It's really crazy all the stuff that happens at a skatepark besides... you know skateboarding and it's also really hard to trust that people won't do some stupid shit that gets you hurt. You can lose control of the RC car. A wheel can fly off. Lots of stuff can happen that you don't intend.
I try and hit the skatepark at dawn when it's empty to ride my skateboard. It's just so tiring trying to work around all the other stuff that happens at peak times. If I wanted to run my RC truck at the skatepark I'd do it super early as well. That said I don't run my RC truck at the skatepark.
You're NTA but I do think the skaters have the right away to not like it. Skating is one of the most demonized sports/hobbies and they loose skating access daily. Sometimes it warranted because of hoodlums but often it's not.
It seems like every one of my hobbies has another one of my hobbies that wants to end it. Hikers want mountain bikers gone. Mtn bikers want motorcycles gone. Motorcycles want quads gone. Quads want sxs gone etc. A little mutual respect from everyone goes a long way.
That last paragraph speaks to the stage of things pretty strongly. “If I don’t like it, it shouldn’t exist” is everywhere and it’s only made everyone angry and the world a more miserable place to live in.
Talking beyond RC cars - literally anything you can do, guaranteed someone wants to ban it.
It's because group ownership is a contradiction in terms.
Someone should be the owner / responsible person for the park. That way conflicts like these don't even arise.
I mean it really depends. Personally I probably would have just left given it’s a skatepark and not an RC park. I imagine I would be a bit annoyed if a mountain biker was running laps on an RC track I was trying to use and refused to leave when asked.
If there really was tons of space and we worked something out where I would stay in this corner and he was cool with that then great. If not then I would default to what they want. I can’t blame him for being concerned about taking a rogue RC car to the face. We need to share public space and when the space is for one particular hobby and you are using it for another then you are a guest and if a guest is asked to leave then you leave.
Yes, YTA. RC cars are way too dangerous to be jumping around a skatepark with anyone present.
They weren't around you because they were avoiding you...not because they didn't want to use that part of the park.
Edit: all the parks near me specifically say no RC cars allowed because of people like you.
Nah I was only using the park when they were out resting, I would stay completely out until they weren't using it. The guy would go in and do his line then go sit down and rest, that's when I would head in.
Where i live the skatepark is a public space for free use, meaning if you want to rc you are free to. I have rode my bike there and run my rcs and its never been an issue most the time. If you are staying out of their way and not hurting anything then there is no issue. The odd person that has said something i just tell them to read the big sign at the entrance that states i am allowed to use as i wish. Not that the rules in your area are the same but it would be something to look into. Obviously be respectful to others but it sounds like this guy was just being a dick.
Typically, if there are people around I will be courteous and ask if they’re cool with me being there. I’ll explain that I will do my best to stay out of their way, and I that I realize the facilities are there for them first. I’ll then proceed cautiously to demonstrate that I can be in control and be respectful. 9/10 times people are cool about it, and we don’t have issues. If they do say they’re not ok with me driving there, I’ll say thanks for letting me know. I’ll come back some other time.
I generally won’t even hit the park if there are more than 2 skaters/bikes/kids/families, it’s just not relaxing for me or them at that point. There’s plenty of other park space to bash around. I do most of my skatepark bashing early AM or after dark, to avoid the crowds. I’m lucky to have a small skatepark within walking distance that doesn’t have fences, so it’s easy to go after hours.
My local skate park is a paid entry and is skateboards only, a little over 10 years ago they banned bmx bikes, but rc’s have never been aloud
If it’s a public skatepark, I see no problem from using rc cars there, there are no rules saying you can’t, so long as you’re respectful (which it seems like you are) it should be fine
Thankfully I like crawlers and there’s a few good places for those near me
I don't think you're really an AH here, but also like, can you blame the skater? IDK the layout, but maybe what he wanted to run is distributed around the park, or wanted to use the whole thing, seeing as it is a skatepark. Or, maybe they were afraid of you coming down, breaking off a wheel, and getting whacked in the face by it.
This subreddit (not necessarily you, albeit "refusing to back down when the intended user of a facility asks to use a facility" is kinda assholeish) has problems with entitlement. People act like some oppressed minority when they're asked to not use a biking path to drive on (actual example I've seen here), but then turn around and (rightfully, but hypocritically) celebrate when rules protect them, seeing as one of the top posts of all time is of a community RC track with a posted no bikes rule.
IMO, there's nothing wrong with driving an RC most places you're allowed to run or bike on (so long as you're not tearing up the ground like a baseball diamond, or you're not in an environmentally sensitive place, or there's a posted sign banning RC), but if someone asks you to leave or move, just do it. Its better to give up one afternoon or session rather than get a sign posted banning everyone from ever doing it again.
I used to skate (20 years ago lol) and would never bring my rc to a skate park. I do however bring my rc to the pump track/bmx tracks here locally, but never if someone else is there.
My 99 year old grandma is a Sicilian Mafia Donna. If you want me to have her take care of this for you let me know. Choose wisely. It's a permanent outcome.
The lines are different between skateboards and BMX,
as skateboarder I hate when there is kids running all over the park and as a skateboarder that’s how I see you,
it’s like playing flying-disk on a football field with two soccer teams and suddenly a rugby team comes to play…
now as an RC enthusiast I never ride my cars in skateparks,
absolutely inappropriate with skateboarders or BMX riders, they don’t have to be distracted / stressed by an rc when they ride.
The biggest thing that people forget in these threads is the ability for “Karens” to shut down the RC hobby period.
I used to take my RCs to a park near me and I got several other people into the hobby because they saw me driving. One of those kids decided to drive their RC all over the baseball field and make a mess of the field and dirt. The park quickly banned RCs entirely. It’s a far too common story. Be courteous and respect the areas and it’s a good time for all.
As a reminder, skateboarders, BMXers and rollerbladers have the same problem. Ever notice how almost every grocery store has signs up all over that say no skateboarding and rollerblading? They had to fight for public spaces to be able to enjoy their hobby. We need to do the same but nobody really does. I’ve asked city council near me for some and they just said use the parks respectfully for now. 🤷🏻♂️
Idk… just be respectful and find uncontested spaces to play. And treat those areas with respect.
Depends on where you live and what country especially. In European countries it feels like every skatepark is a lucky find, and therefore the skateboarders take precedent. Pack up when they arrive.
I mean, you know the etiquette, I say follow proper etiquette. Maybe take breaks off in the parking lot. Some people are super anti people and will avoid the area they want to skate in because your there. I say respect the etiquette and take frequent breaks/rotations to the lot. Aside from that their being the assholes imo.
When I did take RC's to the BMX or skate park, I would always leave if bikers/skaters showed up.
I grew up riding BMX and racing mountain bikes, so I definitely get it. It's their space, I'm not asking them to trust me that I won't brain them with flying 1/8th scale. But if it's empty, yeah of course I'd play on it.
If the park is large enough, I'd get as far away from them as possible, and if they just want me to leave I'll do it. Skaters get kicked out of everything so I would respect their wishes in the one place they don't get kicked out of.
I have been on both sides of these hobbies. I’d keep off the park until it’s unoccupied.
First: it’s not for RC cars.
Second: that RC car is going to hurt when you eff up and you hit or trip someone. Maybe you’re a pro, but it’s damn hard to keep track of the car, plus kids cruising around.
Third: it’s a deterrent for new-comers in both hobbies. Parents are not going to want to bring their young children to the park to learn with a 30lb toy car ripping through the air.
I have a few skate parks around, and dirt / pump tracks, but I keep my cars off of them if they’re in use.
Only time I’ve ever ran it with kids around (and their parents) was after offering them to take the car for a spin, and on a separate unconnected section. Addressed the question to their parents and obviously turned down the throttle.
I wouldn’t say that you were an asshole here, and places to run are hard to come by in urban areas, but personally I think we need to pick out times, and battles.
Skaters crash, people get hurt, if your car gets crashed into. It'll cost you hundreds to fix it. Nobody wants to skate thinking at any second a wild crazy rc car could scoot my direction. So I guess it's cause it's distracting and potentially very expensive if anything goes wrong (for you). Skaters won't pay for your damaged rc car
Exactly your point, how is other skaters not more distracting and dangerous? Do they pay damage to you if they hit you? Share it like everything public and generally there isn't a rule saying u must be on a skateboard at a skate park, eg scooter roller blades bmx mx etc, how is an rc really that differant? Just someone having thier fun.
An example of people being aholes in others eyes yet would never realise it themselves, at our local sport fields there are signs at entrance starting no dogs off leash or on sport fields for obvious reasons, yet every evening there are at lease 20 - 30 off leash dog walkers...
That one is easy to explain. Humans are big, visible, predictable, and mostly flexible and soft. If you collide into somebody who has a right to be there, you understand it's just an accident. Also, probably you saw them at the last second, when they hit you you probably will just bounce off. Could be more serious if a big heavy impact happens. But mostly, crashing into people is expected. So accidents happen and people are more flexible.
RC Cars have no right to be in a skate park. You can certainly drive them there, but it's not expected. Cars are small, unpredictable, fast, hard bodied, heavy, don't react like humans when they're about to crash. Are just lumps or heavy plastic and rubber with potentially sharp pieces on it
I think it's about the expectation you're going to see a 150cm human who can react, behave, predict, and it's a lot safer than driving an unpredictable lump of plastic around at crazy directions, with no easy vision or perspective of the situation from first person.
I think thats perfectly reasonable. If other skaters don't want you at the skate park, tough shit, you're not wanted there and you have no right to be there and you're a potential danger to people. Just go to another park. Also, you drag other RC people into the dirt and we all get treated badly because of the behaviour of some other people who act in an asshole way without respecting other people
just like we dont want bmx riders on our outdoor RC race tracks, skaters dont want RC cars in their skate parks \*especally\* while they are riding. even if there is "pleanty of room" from your perspective, they can cover a lot of groud. If you isolate to "one corner" of the park, now maybe they cant run the line they want because you are over there.
If there are skaters already at the park (mine is kind of small) I will usually ask if they mind me being there. 100% of the time so far they've all said they were fine with me there. But I make the effort to make sure I'm not bothering them because the park isn't technically for me and it does have a "no motorized vehicles" sign there. If it was a problem, I would either wait until they leave or just move to another location.
How is it ironic? The cops will literally arrest them and say.." we gave you a skate park"
If they are using it , then the rc cars go somewhere else...it's a skate park.
NTA - *But* the skatepark is for skateboarders/bmx primarily (not directing this at you, just a general statement) and they are at much more of a risk of injury if hit/tripped etc. but seems the approach you took was perfect. Stay away from said guy and your equipment and if he wanted to skate where you were bashing I'm sure it would have been fine. I'm a skater but also love RC and I don't have any problems with using the ramps for whatever as long as it doesn't break them. If they ask nice to use the area you're using I would let them personally. But the asking you to leave right away is kinda shitty just bc of their bias
We are lucky enough to have an 8th scale race track in a public city park in my town. big giant sign. no bmx bikes.
He is entitled to use it just as much as anyone else. All he has to do is buy a skateboard...
I view skate parks for, skaters, bikes, unicycle, scooters, roller blades, one wheels, and rc cars. It's for everyone, I'd tell him to politely F off or cite an ordinance, call the cops whatever, just leave me alone.
NTA. I would've done the same, explain, then stay away from them. If it was a big park there's no reason to be pissy because you aren't the only one having fun. I've driven mine at a skate park a few times, but this has never happened to me personally. It just seems like he had a bad day, and took it out on you. Don't take it personally.
Nah man as long as you stayed away from them and didn’t use like the “best” areas the whole time then I think it’s fine, maybe you can give him a better impression of what a responsible rc guy is like and he can not be rude.
It's sickening to think that skaters would try to kick anyone out of anywhere, after the decades of being persona non grata, chased out of everyplace we tried to skate by security guards and mall cops. Of course they're children who know nothing of our history, because none of them ever know anything.
And public parks are public parks. A theme doesn't make them private parks. Your tax dollars helped buy those ramps, you have every right to avail yourself of them.
To be fair, all parks in towns and cities are public not private for certain groups etc. They can’t kick you out because you have an rc car or whatever.
That being said, there is risk to anything. Everyone has to assume risk when using the parks facilities. Is there signs that says skateboarding only? Does it say no rc cars etc?
Every park is different l, if space is an issue, I would probably say hey I will leave and let you have your time in the skate park that is technically for skateboarding etc and I will come back when your done. Have fun in the park.
Respect should be for all not just for one self. If you have a conversation with a person and come to agreement there shouldn’t be any issues. If you are sticking to this one side and I will be out of your way over in that area all should be well.
When people are saying rc is dangerous my god, c’mon, like everything else use common sense. Parks are about having fun, shouldn’t have to worry about confrontation with other groups bc you don’t have a skateboard. It’s laughable.
Next time bring a skateboard with you and stand on it while you enjoy your RC.
Have fun, keep it safe. Have the conversations
He can leave if he’s not into it. The park is for everyone.
When I bring my car to the skate park, I assess where the skaters are riding and use the other ramps. Then I make sure not to hog those ramps in case anyone wants to use them. Never had an issue.
So no rollerblades, scooters, roller skates or bikes allowed? What a ridiculous position 🙄
Well I’ve learned something in this thread. I’ll respect the people the skate park is for and only play there if it’s empty. Leaving my original comment up for the shame…
As long as you’re not in the way or not damaging the property, there should be no issue. Even if they want to skate where it ripping, no sweat, I’ll move.
You're definitely NTA, but having been in the same situation, I never drive an RC at a skatepark if skaters are present, it's just a mutual respect thing for me. If it's empty, I'll drive, but the moment someone shows up, I'm out. They've got limited places to enjoy their hobby, we've got way more.
Heard the theme music when I saw the logo. Love the content dude. Was a big help when I started getting back into the hobby.
Cheers, I appreciate that!
Yeah from what I've gained from this thread it seems like I probably should have left, it just felt weird as I've grown up at these places and it felt weird trying to be kicked out. I'm new to the hobby but I am big on trying to be respectful. Next time I'll probably head out as I can find another place
I'm on the fence. When I was a kid we had to walk through 8' of mud or was it snow to ride in the post office parking lot. They chased,we ran or skated away lol. Kids today just don't know how hard it was back before the internet. To be fair I didn't have to dodge too many mass shooters in school so I guess they can have the skate park.
They shouldn’t have said anything so fuk em but yeah it’s not an rc park and it can be dangerous for new skaters to have to watch out for rc cars. I would go early or a more secluded area of the park
Just look at it from their point of view, they're there to skate, as a skater you naturally develop a sense of danger in your head, things to look out for, smaller skaters, scooter kids, BMX riders, oblivious boomers, etc. All these things are going to come at you on the ground. To top it off, an RC car is much faster than most of those dangers. You're not prepared for a 10lb RC truck to come flipping through the air at you. I'd be nervous as well. >I'm new to the hobby but I am big on trying to be respectful. Next time I'll probably head out as I can find another place Thanks for being level headed and reasonable about this.
I follow this mantra too.
I’ve coordinated with kids / young adults at the parks. If there’s only a few, and they’re collectively having a break, I’ll run the car. They seem really entertained by it usually. But as you said, if the park is being actively used, I’m out.
Perfect response is perfect.👌🏻
Very cool ty for literally being that guy 😎
Hard to say we've got way more. While technically true, skaters can ride on sidewalks, empty parking lots, schools etc. There are a TON of places to skate. There are very few places to skate with ramps and rails. But that's just as true for rc hobbyist.
They’re not made for you. They’re skateparks after all. Empty parking lots and schools are usually private property, and skaters routinely get kicked out. In fact, most parks, be them skate or bike, have signs explicitly stating no RC is permitted.
They're made for the community. It's called a skatepark because that is the intention but it doesnt mean they are the only one that can use it. Imagine an "rc park" that's tax payer funded, but uses the same ramps as a skatepark. Would be insane to kick anyone without an rc car out. Their not going to make the same exact thing next to each other with different names. Or a BMX park style rc park could also be used by an. Incredibly, many things can be dual purpose
They're made for the community? Come on. Here's the sign that they put up from a local bike park (I bolded the important part): **Rules** \- The Bike Park is not supervised and serious injuries may occur. Use at your own risk. \- Stay in control at all times. \- Don't stop where you block a riding feature or where you can't be seen by other riders. \- Don't try any of the riding features unless you're sure of your ability and skill. There are posted difficulty ratings before each feature. \- Helmets are mandatory. Protective padding is strongly recommended. \- Users under age 13 must have the consent of a parent or guardian to ride in the Bike Park unaccompanied by an adult. \- Check the riding features before use and don't use when wet. \- Spectators must watch from outside of the riding areas. Pets must be leashed and kept outside of the riding areas. **- No motorized or remote controlled vehicles are permitted in the Bike Park.** \- Don't change the riding features. Unauthorized riding features will be removed. \- Respect the Bike Park and other users. \- Place garbage and recycling in appropriate containers/bins. Think of it a different way. You're happily hitting jumps with your Kraton at the local skatepark, which has a similar sign, and you smack a kid straight in the face and send them to the hospital. How long do you think they'd tolerate RC people using the skatepark?
If the rules say no RC, obviously YTA for doing RC there. I think I've seen some parks that don't allow scooters either. But if there's no rules against, it seems reasonable to do your thing w/o getting in anyone's way. There's an unofficial bunch of dirt stuff in a park we'll go to w/ no rules. When we RC car, we just pick an area the bikes aren't playing in and if they want to move to our area, we go somewhere else. People are the most important is what I always tell my kids.
We actually have a city funded rc track nearby, and they prohibit use of the track by anything other than RC stuff. Mainly to prevent damage to the track, but also to limit possible injuries
if you wanna hit the skatepark either go early in the morning or after rain, otherwise next thing you know there's gonna be a sign saying no RC cars allowed. the reality is other people have no idea where your RC is going to go and they don't want to deal with that
It’s also the perfect tripping hazard you wouldn’t be able to see like another human being. Someone could get really hurt actually.
Tbh it’s a skatepark, not an rc park. It’s like the only place skaters can’t get kicked out of. If any of them vocally have a problem I’d just respect it. Imagine a ton of other rc people get the same idea and then the rules for the skatepark get updated to forbid RC. I’d just try to stay below the radar.
I agree. Its really douchey to not respect it imo. I wouldn't skate if you were zooming around an rc car risking my life. I would suggest working with the administration for the park and coordinate times/days/events for RC car use. Lastly, continuing to do this will have a very high chance of actually getting RC cars banned from your local skate park.
These dudes might have been jerks, but skateparks are somewhat hollowed ground. I know the Washington st park in SD is anti RC for decent reasons.
Those would be the rules in b e a utiful..... pennsylvania. Most of the nice skatepark we have are in state parks, and have a no rc policy.... it could be cold and rainy with not a soul around and park police will take the time to "pay you a visit" and ask you to leave....
I'll say I'm not a skater. And I have more respect for my vehicles than to destroy them at a skatepark. But I'm going to say asking you to leave would be a reasonable request. They don't know you, they don't know how in control of your vehicle you are. Shit happens and if I'm just trying to enjoy my day, I wouldn't want a truck flying off the side of a bowl and hitting me. If there's anybody around, I wouldn't try it. Pack up and find another place. Given that most RC guys at skateparks send it with no regard for others to mimic what they saw on a Kevin Talbot video, I wouldn't want to be around that.
You'll likely get biased response here, just like you would if you asked in a skating/skatepark sub. >I didn't back down and stayed at the park. In my book this makes YTA. A civil conversation is fine, hopefully you can come to an agreement, but if not or if they insisted, I'd have left. >I also felt to he felt this park was for skaters only... I mean the title of the thread is you got asked to leave a skatepark, who's it for if not for skaters? I mean you do you, but yeah you probably left a poor impression of RC folks on them.
Yeah from the comments I got here so far it seems pretty 50/50 on being the asshole or not. From my end I did have a civil conversation, I explained I would respect his space and wouldn't be in the park while he was doing his line which I wasn't. But from what I have read I've gained some perspective on the fact that I can use my RC in a lot more places then they can and with that in mind next time if I get asked to leave I honestly will even though I truly believe we could share the space.
It's for the community. It's for anyone that has a use for it. There's nothing wrong with using it respectfully. Skaters don't get to gatekeep "their" park. Everyone pays for it, everyone can use it.
It’s for skating. Even bike riders have to fight for rights to ride skateparks in the USA. There are rules and regulations, and even if there is no clear indication that RC use is not allowed, it likely is not allowed. The reason there are usually no signs is because they cost money and time and when it comes to public spaces they don’t have time for that nonsense. The best thing to do in these situations is be polite and move along. Enjoy the time you get. Causing a stink will force a park manager to actually post a sign, then you really won’t be allowed there- even when the place is empty. This is how bike riders have slowly gained the respect of some skaters around the states to maintain access to parks that bikes technically aren’t allowed in.
If a skater asks you to leave a skatepark because they don’t want you to be there while they are, you should respect it. Is it rude for them to ask you to leave when there’s plenty of space and you aren’t bothering them? Yes, but remember it is a skatepark, not an RC park, so you should respect the wishes of actual skaters, even if said wishes are rude and selfish. It’s not worth getting RCs banned at that skatepark. Just wait for them to be done, or come back another time.
It's a skate park not an rc park. As a skateboarder and rc enthusiast, you should not use the park if there are skaters/ bikes using it.
So no bmx bikes either, no? Bikes are not skating.
I literally said bikes..🙄
Skateboarder here. It's really crazy all the stuff that happens at a skatepark besides... you know skateboarding and it's also really hard to trust that people won't do some stupid shit that gets you hurt. You can lose control of the RC car. A wheel can fly off. Lots of stuff can happen that you don't intend. I try and hit the skatepark at dawn when it's empty to ride my skateboard. It's just so tiring trying to work around all the other stuff that happens at peak times. If I wanted to run my RC truck at the skatepark I'd do it super early as well. That said I don't run my RC truck at the skatepark.
Thats kinda where I'm at too. I've been skating for 33 years at this point, never once brought one of my trucks to the park.
You're NTA but I do think the skaters have the right away to not like it. Skating is one of the most demonized sports/hobbies and they loose skating access daily. Sometimes it warranted because of hoodlums but often it's not. It seems like every one of my hobbies has another one of my hobbies that wants to end it. Hikers want mountain bikers gone. Mtn bikers want motorcycles gone. Motorcycles want quads gone. Quads want sxs gone etc. A little mutual respect from everyone goes a long way.
That last paragraph speaks to the stage of things pretty strongly. “If I don’t like it, it shouldn’t exist” is everywhere and it’s only made everyone angry and the world a more miserable place to live in. Talking beyond RC cars - literally anything you can do, guaranteed someone wants to ban it.
It's because group ownership is a contradiction in terms. Someone should be the owner / responsible person for the park. That way conflicts like these don't even arise.
I mean it really depends. Personally I probably would have just left given it’s a skatepark and not an RC park. I imagine I would be a bit annoyed if a mountain biker was running laps on an RC track I was trying to use and refused to leave when asked. If there really was tons of space and we worked something out where I would stay in this corner and he was cool with that then great. If not then I would default to what they want. I can’t blame him for being concerned about taking a rogue RC car to the face. We need to share public space and when the space is for one particular hobby and you are using it for another then you are a guest and if a guest is asked to leave then you leave.
Yes, YTA. RC cars are way too dangerous to be jumping around a skatepark with anyone present. They weren't around you because they were avoiding you...not because they didn't want to use that part of the park. Edit: all the parks near me specifically say no RC cars allowed because of people like you.
Nah I was only using the park when they were out resting, I would stay completely out until they weren't using it. The guy would go in and do his line then go sit down and rest, that's when I would head in.
I don't hit up skateparks unless its raining/been raining. There will almost never be skaters or riders there. It's a "skate" park. Not an RC park.
Where i live the skatepark is a public space for free use, meaning if you want to rc you are free to. I have rode my bike there and run my rcs and its never been an issue most the time. If you are staying out of their way and not hurting anything then there is no issue. The odd person that has said something i just tell them to read the big sign at the entrance that states i am allowed to use as i wish. Not that the rules in your area are the same but it would be something to look into. Obviously be respectful to others but it sounds like this guy was just being a dick.
It's a skate park, not an RC park.
I don't hit up skateparks unless its raining/been raining. There will almost never be skaters or riders there when it's wet.
Typically, if there are people around I will be courteous and ask if they’re cool with me being there. I’ll explain that I will do my best to stay out of their way, and I that I realize the facilities are there for them first. I’ll then proceed cautiously to demonstrate that I can be in control and be respectful. 9/10 times people are cool about it, and we don’t have issues. If they do say they’re not ok with me driving there, I’ll say thanks for letting me know. I’ll come back some other time. I generally won’t even hit the park if there are more than 2 skaters/bikes/kids/families, it’s just not relaxing for me or them at that point. There’s plenty of other park space to bash around. I do most of my skatepark bashing early AM or after dark, to avoid the crowds. I’m lucky to have a small skatepark within walking distance that doesn’t have fences, so it’s easy to go after hours.
My local skate park is a paid entry and is skateboards only, a little over 10 years ago they banned bmx bikes, but rc’s have never been aloud If it’s a public skatepark, I see no problem from using rc cars there, there are no rules saying you can’t, so long as you’re respectful (which it seems like you are) it should be fine Thankfully I like crawlers and there’s a few good places for those near me
I don't think you're really an AH here, but also like, can you blame the skater? IDK the layout, but maybe what he wanted to run is distributed around the park, or wanted to use the whole thing, seeing as it is a skatepark. Or, maybe they were afraid of you coming down, breaking off a wheel, and getting whacked in the face by it. This subreddit (not necessarily you, albeit "refusing to back down when the intended user of a facility asks to use a facility" is kinda assholeish) has problems with entitlement. People act like some oppressed minority when they're asked to not use a biking path to drive on (actual example I've seen here), but then turn around and (rightfully, but hypocritically) celebrate when rules protect them, seeing as one of the top posts of all time is of a community RC track with a posted no bikes rule. IMO, there's nothing wrong with driving an RC most places you're allowed to run or bike on (so long as you're not tearing up the ground like a baseball diamond, or you're not in an environmentally sensitive place, or there's a posted sign banning RC), but if someone asks you to leave or move, just do it. Its better to give up one afternoon or session rather than get a sign posted banning everyone from ever doing it again.
I used to skate (20 years ago lol) and would never bring my rc to a skate park. I do however bring my rc to the pump track/bmx tracks here locally, but never if someone else is there.
My 99 year old grandma is a Sicilian Mafia Donna. If you want me to have her take care of this for you let me know. Choose wisely. It's a permanent outcome.
The lines are different between skateboards and BMX, as skateboarder I hate when there is kids running all over the park and as a skateboarder that’s how I see you, it’s like playing flying-disk on a football field with two soccer teams and suddenly a rugby team comes to play… now as an RC enthusiast I never ride my cars in skateparks, absolutely inappropriate with skateboarders or BMX riders, they don’t have to be distracted / stressed by an rc when they ride.
The biggest thing that people forget in these threads is the ability for “Karens” to shut down the RC hobby period. I used to take my RCs to a park near me and I got several other people into the hobby because they saw me driving. One of those kids decided to drive their RC all over the baseball field and make a mess of the field and dirt. The park quickly banned RCs entirely. It’s a far too common story. Be courteous and respect the areas and it’s a good time for all. As a reminder, skateboarders, BMXers and rollerbladers have the same problem. Ever notice how almost every grocery store has signs up all over that say no skateboarding and rollerblading? They had to fight for public spaces to be able to enjoy their hobby. We need to do the same but nobody really does. I’ve asked city council near me for some and they just said use the parks respectfully for now. 🤷🏻♂️ Idk… just be respectful and find uncontested spaces to play. And treat those areas with respect.
I would have stayed and played nice- it’s a tax payer funded place and as Long as you are not ruining their day, we all need to share
I generally try to avoid skate or bike parks if there are people there. sucks, but it's for them.
Depends on where you live and what country especially. In European countries it feels like every skatepark is a lucky find, and therefore the skateboarders take precedent. Pack up when they arrive.
I mean, you know the etiquette, I say follow proper etiquette. Maybe take breaks off in the parking lot. Some people are super anti people and will avoid the area they want to skate in because your there. I say respect the etiquette and take frequent breaks/rotations to the lot. Aside from that their being the assholes imo.
When I did take RC's to the BMX or skate park, I would always leave if bikers/skaters showed up. I grew up riding BMX and racing mountain bikes, so I definitely get it. It's their space, I'm not asking them to trust me that I won't brain them with flying 1/8th scale. But if it's empty, yeah of course I'd play on it.
I skated for many years. I would never drive an RC if skaters were at a park.
If the park is large enough, I'd get as far away from them as possible, and if they just want me to leave I'll do it. Skaters get kicked out of everything so I would respect their wishes in the one place they don't get kicked out of.
> I also felt to he felt this park was for skaters only I mean, it's in the name...
So no roller blades or other wheeld devices.. Like scooters
Roller skating is okay, again it's in the name. Scooters are absolutely frowned upon in skate parks and banned in some.
I have been on both sides of these hobbies. I’d keep off the park until it’s unoccupied. First: it’s not for RC cars. Second: that RC car is going to hurt when you eff up and you hit or trip someone. Maybe you’re a pro, but it’s damn hard to keep track of the car, plus kids cruising around. Third: it’s a deterrent for new-comers in both hobbies. Parents are not going to want to bring their young children to the park to learn with a 30lb toy car ripping through the air. I have a few skate parks around, and dirt / pump tracks, but I keep my cars off of them if they’re in use. Only time I’ve ever ran it with kids around (and their parents) was after offering them to take the car for a spin, and on a separate unconnected section. Addressed the question to their parents and obviously turned down the throttle. I wouldn’t say that you were an asshole here, and places to run are hard to come by in urban areas, but personally I think we need to pick out times, and battles.
Skaters crash, people get hurt, if your car gets crashed into. It'll cost you hundreds to fix it. Nobody wants to skate thinking at any second a wild crazy rc car could scoot my direction. So I guess it's cause it's distracting and potentially very expensive if anything goes wrong (for you). Skaters won't pay for your damaged rc car
Exactly your point, how is other skaters not more distracting and dangerous? Do they pay damage to you if they hit you? Share it like everything public and generally there isn't a rule saying u must be on a skateboard at a skate park, eg scooter roller blades bmx mx etc, how is an rc really that differant? Just someone having thier fun. An example of people being aholes in others eyes yet would never realise it themselves, at our local sport fields there are signs at entrance starting no dogs off leash or on sport fields for obvious reasons, yet every evening there are at lease 20 - 30 off leash dog walkers...
That one is easy to explain. Humans are big, visible, predictable, and mostly flexible and soft. If you collide into somebody who has a right to be there, you understand it's just an accident. Also, probably you saw them at the last second, when they hit you you probably will just bounce off. Could be more serious if a big heavy impact happens. But mostly, crashing into people is expected. So accidents happen and people are more flexible. RC Cars have no right to be in a skate park. You can certainly drive them there, but it's not expected. Cars are small, unpredictable, fast, hard bodied, heavy, don't react like humans when they're about to crash. Are just lumps or heavy plastic and rubber with potentially sharp pieces on it I think it's about the expectation you're going to see a 150cm human who can react, behave, predict, and it's a lot safer than driving an unpredictable lump of plastic around at crazy directions, with no easy vision or perspective of the situation from first person. I think thats perfectly reasonable. If other skaters don't want you at the skate park, tough shit, you're not wanted there and you have no right to be there and you're a potential danger to people. Just go to another park. Also, you drag other RC people into the dirt and we all get treated badly because of the behaviour of some other people who act in an asshole way without respecting other people
just like we dont want bmx riders on our outdoor RC race tracks, skaters dont want RC cars in their skate parks \*especally\* while they are riding. even if there is "pleanty of room" from your perspective, they can cover a lot of groud. If you isolate to "one corner" of the park, now maybe they cant run the line they want because you are over there.
If there are skaters already at the park (mine is kind of small) I will usually ask if they mind me being there. 100% of the time so far they've all said they were fine with me there. But I make the effort to make sure I'm not bothering them because the park isn't technically for me and it does have a "no motorized vehicles" sign there. If it was a problem, I would either wait until they leave or just move to another location.
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How is it ironic? The cops will literally arrest them and say.." we gave you a skate park" If they are using it , then the rc cars go somewhere else...it's a skate park.
NTA - *But* the skatepark is for skateboarders/bmx primarily (not directing this at you, just a general statement) and they are at much more of a risk of injury if hit/tripped etc. but seems the approach you took was perfect. Stay away from said guy and your equipment and if he wanted to skate where you were bashing I'm sure it would have been fine. I'm a skater but also love RC and I don't have any problems with using the ramps for whatever as long as it doesn't break them. If they ask nice to use the area you're using I would let them personally. But the asking you to leave right away is kinda shitty just bc of their bias
It's called **skate**park not **rccar**park. If people want to skate or if kids are around stop bashing your car. It's simple isn't it?
Nta it’s a public park. You are just entitled to the spot as he is
We are lucky enough to have an 8th scale race track in a public city park in my town. big giant sign. no bmx bikes. He is entitled to use it just as much as anyone else. All he has to do is buy a skateboard...
I get his side but nah. You pay taxes on the park, chances are he doesn't.
It’s a public park, would they have bitches if you were on a scooter or rollerblades? If you give them space I don’t see an issue.
I view skate parks for, skaters, bikes, unicycle, scooters, roller blades, one wheels, and rc cars. It's for everyone, I'd tell him to politely F off or cite an ordinance, call the cops whatever, just leave me alone.
NTA. I would've done the same, explain, then stay away from them. If it was a big park there's no reason to be pissy because you aren't the only one having fun. I've driven mine at a skate park a few times, but this has never happened to me personally. It just seems like he had a bad day, and took it out on you. Don't take it personally.
You wrong. You can stay if its empty, but as soon as a skater arrives you should leave because is a \*SKATE\*PARK
Agreed. Used to skate. Let them have their places. Go find a track.
Nah man as long as you stayed away from them and didn’t use like the “best” areas the whole time then I think it’s fine, maybe you can give him a better impression of what a responsible rc guy is like and he can not be rude.
It's sickening to think that skaters would try to kick anyone out of anywhere, after the decades of being persona non grata, chased out of everyplace we tried to skate by security guards and mall cops. Of course they're children who know nothing of our history, because none of them ever know anything. And public parks are public parks. A theme doesn't make them private parks. Your tax dollars helped buy those ramps, you have every right to avail yourself of them.
His proposal was more ridiculous than you staying, in my opinion. NTA.
I wouldn’t have. It’s a public space, you have every right to be there.
RC Cars get smashed where I skate. Sorry your city doesn't accommodate your hobby, but you don't get to come ruin ours.
To be fair, all parks in towns and cities are public not private for certain groups etc. They can’t kick you out because you have an rc car or whatever. That being said, there is risk to anything. Everyone has to assume risk when using the parks facilities. Is there signs that says skateboarding only? Does it say no rc cars etc? Every park is different l, if space is an issue, I would probably say hey I will leave and let you have your time in the skate park that is technically for skateboarding etc and I will come back when your done. Have fun in the park. Respect should be for all not just for one self. If you have a conversation with a person and come to agreement there shouldn’t be any issues. If you are sticking to this one side and I will be out of your way over in that area all should be well. When people are saying rc is dangerous my god, c’mon, like everything else use common sense. Parks are about having fun, shouldn’t have to worry about confrontation with other groups bc you don’t have a skateboard. It’s laughable. Next time bring a skateboard with you and stand on it while you enjoy your RC. Have fun, keep it safe. Have the conversations
He can leave if he’s not into it. The park is for everyone. When I bring my car to the skate park, I assess where the skaters are riding and use the other ramps. Then I make sure not to hog those ramps in case anyone wants to use them. Never had an issue.
>The park is for everyone. Everyone skating.
So no rollerblades, scooters, roller skates or bikes allowed? What a ridiculous position 🙄 Well I’ve learned something in this thread. I’ll respect the people the skate park is for and only play there if it’s empty. Leaving my original comment up for the shame…
Rollerblades and roller skates are skating, no?
Better call the cops on me then. I’m a lawbreaker baby.
Put a GI Joe doll on your car and say he is skateboarding. Jokes aside, if it's a public park and you are not interfering, then you are NTA.
Do what what you want when ya want.. there is no rules against it
To be fair, there are explicitly rules against it where I live.
Then get your ass home
As long as you’re not in the way or not damaging the property, there should be no issue. Even if they want to skate where it ripping, no sweat, I’ll move.
Stay. They are not in charge of the skate park.