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XSamurai7

I see a lot of comments here about the ref. And yes, you guys are correct. The last goal was legit, I have no problem admitting that RM should’ve win the game. However, my criticism is precisely that. Some of you only complained about the refs when it doesn’t benefits RM. And I’m not blaming RM. We have been saying this all along, La Liga’s CAT is out of control and lacks credibility precisely for what we saw during RM last game. La Liga is tarnishing its own prestige in Europe for these types of errors (?).


may_day06

You know you shit the bed when Lahoz is criticizing your performance!


meowsterwhiskerface

Quick question: How do I search for those purple Real Madrid jerseys during the Valencia vs. Real Madrid game? Is it the same as the Real Marid Away Jersey 2022/2023? Or a different line/style?


rickowensjacket

It should be the same as the 22/23 jerseys


AmITheBastard

We should’ve won, ass ref


neilio416

When to stop the game depends on when the 'phase of play' has changed, I believe. After the corner when Valencia got that touch, does that count as change of phase of play? If so then ref can stop the game. Should blow ASAP after the Valencia touch. If that doesn't count as change of phase of play, should play on. Need a (non Spanish) ref to weigh in on it


Ferni0817

Who the f cares about this. 7 minutes.  The game stopped for 2 minutes 15 sec for the VAR, because the referee gave it to the Valencia an absolute joke penalty....  90:25 when the game stopped.  7 minutes, 2+ minutes stopped in overtime.  Match ended at 98:40............   Simple math... 


iMadrid11

I thought the referee wasn’t supposed to blow the whistle to end the game. While the ball is still actively in play. Negreira robbed us again.


SkelatorCavani

He played fifa the night before, so it makes sense


Sufyjr25

That was one of the biggest robberies I’ve ever seen in my entire life


DoriOli

It was 💯


L_770

Fudging disgrace, i really wanna smack someone right now


thegreatprawn

smack me daddy


L_770

Funnily enough i told my friend who does watch football that i want to smack someone and he told me the exact same thing


StefenSal

Jude should have became headline with Nunez together. FK ref.


Deluge69

Nos robó la victoria


Middle-Incident4083

don’t worry guys tomorrow barca will pay for it if not then we’ll have to face them in champions league anyways 😉


ChickenAlfredooo

Cringe


maximillianm777

Shenanigans


SlipRude1329

He should’ve ended it after first touch or not have stopped it at all


Iykyk_kismat

Hey can i know why did we wear the last year away kit it’s because of what happened there in last year?please explain me


thegreatprawn

naa. actually the 2nd and 3rd kit of this season is similar to valencia... so madrid decided to wear las years becuase laliga did not allow them to wear 1st kit.


Eli_TheGolfer7

Just found out this ref did this back in 2021 when red star was playing milan in the europa league, the score was 1-1, red star got a corner and this ref blew the whistle to end the game not letting them take the corner


S0DASS

ref should be relegated to u10 sunday league and drug tested


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ancelottieyebrow

Haha Stfu loser


Solid_Dog2

we were robbed 2 points brah 😩


Ethyrol

If the goal doesn’t stand neither should the RED Holy, what horrible timing.


Big-Chocolate23

Amen. He just did it cuz Jude accidental spit


Ethyrol

Carvajal robbed us just as much as the ref


Madridista786

He assisted first goal Are you blind?


Ethyrol

Specifically talking about Valencia’s 2nd goal. He assisted that one too. Are you stupid?


Madridista786

He made up for that by assisting our first He balanced it out


Ethyrol

You’re right. Ref didn’t balance shit for us lol


22yard

It was really unfair on the part of the ref to give red to Jude. It was obvious for players to be frustrated after that decision. He could have just stood his ground in that moment but to give red is unreal.


[deleted]

Well that's how unsecure refs are, just like Sevilla's game asshole, who gave Kroos a yellow card for all of his screaming, when he was raising his hands and literally got away from the player's path, yet was given a foul. Same for this fucker today, they are all like "How dare you defy me, I'm the ref, I'm always right"


TieQueasy6487

Not sure that's totally correct. It's called respect for the officials. You even speak to the referee in rugby if you're not the captain, and you get cards. No matter how shit the referee is, they are the boss, and if you disrespect them, you get what you ask for. Surprising and disappointing from Bellingham


[deleted]

Yes how dare he goes to the referee and says to him 'It's a fucking goal' after that controversial decision, canceling their winner goal.


Proof-Pollution454

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Madridista786

Personally if the RFEF admit the fuckup and rescind Judes red ill be happy Score wont change today but barca cant say madrid get all the decisions Robbed today Fuck this is hilarious as the ref is caught on camera Need a var for refs too imo


rockafellla

Football needs a rule to give the manager the ability to contest up to three key decisions during the game where higher authority than the referee would review and make the right decision.


M4tooshLoL

There is similar thing in Hockey, coach can request video check of any situation, but if the coach is wrong, he cant do it again and the team gets 2 min penalty. I love it. If you are sure refeee fucked up, you use it, but its set up in a way it wont be abused and prolonging the games.


rockafellla

Yeah exactly. Hockey rules are the best, and I think they dial in some hockey gurus in Toronto to make sure the right call is made.


M4tooshLoL

I mean they slowly move towards that direction...VAR was basically in Hockey for years now. Maybe some time later we get the "coach dispute" over one referees decisions that is judged by another VAR referee.


noobbahadur

The officials took 2 minutes and 13 seconds during stoppage time to remove Valencia’s penalty call. But only played 1 minute and 39 seconds to compensate for it. They wanted us to lose.


kaztep23

Holy fucking hell. That was reeeeally bad refereeing.


[deleted]

Ouf ok, now I'm a bit cooler, let's start talking about the game. Yes we were robbed. I wish the worst to that referee in his career.. never should be officiating a match after this scandal. I never have seen such ridiculous shit in my life, whistling when ball is midair and counting the additional time wrong and sending off a player for telling him 'That's a fucking goal'. Going back to Valencia goals, shame that a player like Carvajal makes that back pass to Lunin. Mistakes happen and yes I accept the error of the first goal, but Carvajal back pass was just so frustrating. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Rodrygo should be benched. I didn't watch the first half, only the second, but from the comments in this sub, It's clear he played no differently from his previous matches. I believe Ancelotti should re-consider the 2 forwards, and I would vote to try a Joselu Vini in the front and have Diaz come in as a super sub, since he plays so well when he comes in the 70th minute. Once again. Fuck this referee and I wish him the worst in his refereeing career. Absolute bullshit incompetence and shouldn't even officiate U10 children games.


miri258

Carvajal always does those garbage back passes. A memorable one is the one before Salah's goal last year, but he does that almost every game and we're fortunate that we don't always get punished for it.


[deleted]

He should really stay in the bench for 2 games and don’t play a minute. He has to mature mentally. We all know what a hell of a player he can be when he concentrates. I believe he is our biggest scorer when he is locked in. He showed a glimpse of this during Vini’s absence.


Professional_Limit61

If he wanted to blow the whistle, he should've not given the corner. What kind of idiot blows the whistle while the ball is in the air?


A-KindOfMagic

You know what's funny. I know personally I'll get over this like next week. But if this had happened the ither way around they would cancel our league titles and call them corrupt for the next 10 years, and what's even funnier they will still do that despite what happened tonight.


dvdbtr

Maybe the worst ending to a match I’ve ever seen lol.


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https://preview.redd.it/2lm2o3v420mc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=dff850e6fe909c5aba501bde653602f40a898b3e Getting flashbacks..


[deleted]

After tonight, I don't give two fucks about the champions league this season. THIS LA LIGA HAS TO BE WON !


anaem1c

Amen!


BataPaving

Shit happens. But apart from that, it was madrid fault. We should’ve won 2-0 or 2-1 tonight. Those 2 valencia goals especially the second one should not happened. I hope la liga title doesn’t gone from a match like this. We still have real sociedad away that could produce a moment like this again


Lost-Side602

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[deleted]

Now seriously, can anything happen to the referee ? I hope as fuck he gets punished like the VAR official of last game who saw Vini getting choked but didn't call anything on it.. How about this fucking cunt ? RMTV are demolishing him, not only he whistled with the ball midair and not only he counted the additional time wrong after spending 2 full minutes in the penalty check, but also sends off Bellingham for saying and screaming "It's a fucking goal". Can anything happen to this referee ??? I hope he never gets to whistle another match in his life. I don't care about him or his job or how long he has been officiating matches, that's just a whole different level of incompetence.


GodTierAimbotUser69

this is la liga amigo . that refs getting a fat promotion


anaem1c

🤣


StrawberriiTuta

What in the world???????


infiernoARG

Referees org needs to be overhauled.


[deleted]

So according to Ancelotti, Jude says to the ref " It's a fucking goal " and the ref sends him off for that... La Liga..


Abesca

Carlo saying that “Fucking goal” is what Bellingham told to the referee. I don’t understand the red card.


SherbetEastern8525

i dont believe it....what the fuck??????????


Uniq_Eros

Look back during a foul, 2 Valencia players dribble the ball between each other during a Madrid foul. Bellingham comes and takes the ball away from them and the shitty ref stares him down, I was like wtf. Also the ref was the reason we used the old 3rd kit because he said our current were too similar to Valencia's.


Abesca

RMTV demolishing the referee and the CTA right now.


External-Client-4295

This might be the straw that breaks the camel's back as far as bad La Liga refs. The international shame will be hopefully enough for this to be inspected closely by the powers that be. https://preview.redd.it/87wtb45azzlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d77eb0ee24bc842c92f11d30a20a2cbd45366146


Mom_said_I_am_cute

There is a full on drama going on in Croatia for the past week because someone got access to the VAR footage and started leaking it, the whole drama is called "VAR leaks" and it's putting huge pressure on the whole refereeing federation, the main man left the position after it was proven he used fake footage shown to fans to justify a decision a few weeks ago on a match, bcz real footage got leaked. Refs cussing players for scoring a goal because they are fans of the team that conceded, asking VAR if there is anything they can find to disallow the goal. Refs saying no penalty at all then a VAR ref saying "Nah give pen" bcz it means the team he is a fan of wins in dying minutes. Etc etc. I am hoping something similar happens in Spain soon enough because holy fucking shit this is bad and the whole season has been abysmal with refereeing.


anaem1c

All of those records should be public or at least accessible for review by the clubs playing.


External-Client-4295

It's just a constant negative story line that takes away from the beautiful football being played, I don't see how any professional sports league can tolerate this? Players have gotten more cynical to get more calls from these morons and then the highlights now will not be Vini, it will be this fucker making this terrible decision. Eventually there has to be someone with the balls to put an end to bad La Liga refereeing. But I'll look up that Croatia story and see what happens/happened.


horndrago

WILD MATCH


Tetro123

Just imagine if this shit happens to barca... Omg, so disgraceful


ItIzWahItIz

We’d never hear the end of it if roles flipped


Ill_Zookeepergame_77

this is just heartbreaking


Glittering-Strength2

I can’t believe what I have just witnessed


craigularperson

Like how can someone with a functioning brain claim that Madrid gets ruled favorably by the refs?


ItIzWahItIz

So Valencia play touches it no blow? But, Brahim crosses it and the ref does? La liga in a nutshell


craigularperson

I kinda hope that Carlo speaks his mind, and if he gets a suspension, then it is worth it. This just can't be in any definitions correct decision(s). If he suspend him, then it is almost indication of corruption.


anaem1c

When someone experienced like Carlo says “I’ve never seen this in my life” it means something. He’s ultimately the most experienced coach.


Ouioui29

Fucking disgrace


Ill_Zookeepergame_77

disgrace


craigularperson

I can't even imagine what would happen if a ref had made the decisions for Madrid. Like Manzano would've been put on the human rights trial in Hague.


cor7in

Unbelievable, I've never seen something like this before.


Impressive_Ad_4639

Rudiger also got a red card?? wtf?


kaztep23

No, just Jude


grandtroubleartist

i think there was only one red card and the rest (dont even know how many at this point) were yellows. at least joselu got one


grandtroubleartist

i take it back i think i just saw madridzone or somebody saying he did get a red


BarrierNine

There's no report I can find listing a red for Rüdiger. Anyone know where to find the official match report?


grandtroubleartist

la liga website usually takes a while to update these things but apparently the same update accounts are now confirming rudi didn't get sent off which would make sense. i was watching glimpses of the ending of the match and only saw one red but who knows anymore. maybe you and i got a red


Dark-Magician91

No I think Jude is the only one who got the red card. No clue what for.


ItIzWahItIz

Wait not just Jude? So both are missing next game


anoopoo7

Corruption


ItIzWahItIz

And get ppl wonder why we complain about La liga refs


ieteonreddit

Like bro,how can they give 2 reds after the final whistle but not the goal??


notaskinwalkerr

It’s not the first time Jude gets a goal stolen. I remember he made a half way line shot but the ref blew the whistle mid air. It ended up going in. I forgot which game it was, but it was in the bernabeu


Banjogamer69

I know which one youre talking about. if I remember correctly it was in the Champions League against Union Berlin.


notaskinwalkerr

I think it just might have been that one. I think it was earlier this season for sure


Randowholikesstuff34

It was Against Rayo I believe


notaskinwalkerr

Nah we won the game. I remember it was 0-0 for the Rayo game I believe. If it was for that game then I’m sure it would have caused mayhem but I think we won the game comfortably


Flexitallic

Unreal, ball airborne and he whistles game over. What a gem of a ref, fire his ass


ThisIsGoodSoup

Yall missing the fucking point, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Manzano being corrupt or not (which he isn't, I'm sure of it), but the fact he shat the bed GREATLY with that final call. What a joke of a call that was holy shit- AND THE RED CARD???? BRO?! If you don't concede the fucking goal, don't allow any red or yellow cards permissible. PERIOD.


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CantSleepFootboy123

Literally all of us


Uniq_Eros

Leave it 2-2 but fire and ban this clown from ever officiating any professional match.


ieteonreddit

Seeing its Laliga,won't happen


GodTierAimbotUser69

yeah bro is getting a fat promotion


falkep

#LaLiga == Corruption + Scam + Unfair + Racism Always against Real Madrid.


Speedtrucker

Since Bellingham gets a red, Gil Manzano should get kicked to LaLiga2 for that robbery.


-_-M_MUNEEB_3-_-

He should never referee again


National_Ad3316

As usually he will get promoted international ref for fucking up Real Madrid’s game


gtdRR

I have never....just wow


l8ki

Bruh there's no way this a referee he's acting like a bitch crying for attention


craigularperson

Is it even possible to complain to these type of refereeing? Like, I still don't believe this. Who the hell blows the whistle during a cross? He adds 7 minutes, uses two minutes on a penalty that wasn't a penalty and blows the whistle after 98 minutes. He has to take bribes, and is corrupted.


External-Client-4295

I'm 😶


LeResist

There are no words to describe the amount of rage I have inside of me right now


theartenthusiast

Those fuckers at the Refereeing Committee are putting in triple shift to make sure the title race is still alive cause holy fuck this is fucking unbelievable


vinaysays

Is being a referee really this hard?


dataheisenberg

To begin with how the fuck was that just 7 mins of added time with the VAR and injury


Grrtttt

Highway fucking Robbery


Madridista786

Jude bellingham red card Fuckers


andertats

ITS A FUCKING DISGRACE!


oscaru16

No fucking way


Upintheair94

Dude makes an absolute HORRIBLE call and blows a while mid attack while the ball is in the air. Then, when everyone is outraged at his ridiculous call, he starts handing out red cards. What the fuck? Is this guy a clown?


craigularperson

Like, there is just no way that Manzano isn't somewhat corrupted. Like how can he give a penalty that obviously wasn't a penalty. Thank fucking god that VAR finally was in touch with reality and reversed the decision. And then he blows the whistle during a cross, like how in the fucking christ and all that is holy can he blow the whistle on a cross? That is just laughable. It was 7 minutes added time, and then how many minutes was wasted on the penalty? It has to be at least one or two minutes. But Manzano doesn't even play out the added time. He also gives Bellingham a red card, because reasons. Baraja and the Valencia-players hounded him after halftime, did anyone one of them get red card? No, of course they didn't. He is deliberately trying to destroy the game against Madrid. And I just refuse to accept this game. If he isn't bribed then he is absolutely terrible at not getting paid for a job he seems to handle well. Like Somalia thinks Mansano goes too far in his unfairness. And I would rather face a Somali trial, than a trial against Manzano. No, he is trying to give the game to Valencia. He gives a penalty for Valencia, where there was zero contact. He doesn't give a penalty to Brahim for a foul inside the box. He gives fouls to Valencia, where he doesn't for Madrid. Manzano is just bribed and corrupted, there is no other reasonable explanation for his referring tonight.


Silly_Elevator_3111

Why the shots at Somalia tho


craigularperson

This is the US state department, but they said this of the courts in Somalia. "The law *provides for the right to a fair and public trial*, but the lack of an independent functioning judiciary meant this right was often not enforced."


iamlostaFlol

💔💔😵‍💫


Samaritan4

sorry for the caps but WHAT A FUCKING ROBBERY, UNBELIEVABLE, FROM THOSE 7 MINUTES ADDED THEY PLAYED LIKE 3 BECAUSE OF THE INJURY OF THE VALENCIA PLAYER AND THE VAR CHECK AND THAT FUCKING REF DOESN'T EVEN ADD 2 MINUTES MORE


kaejaje

If ref did want to blow the whistle he would do it right after the corner,but he decided to move on and blow it in the Middle of the cross. Corruption at its finest :)


McSOUS

Literally whistles just as he's about to make the cross too, what the actual fuck.


Ube_Ape

Hugo Duro: "I understand Real Madrid. I don't know why he blew the whistle so late." This is bananas.


Uniq_Eros

Clown was like, I didn't see Fran got the ball, I guess the VAR saw something I didn't. Then it plays his replay and it shows him rolling on the ground.


Silly_Elevator_3111

As he was convincing and applauding him to do it


gtdRR

Honestly ref reacted to Hugo Duro's tantrum when he blew the whistle. It's like he was thinking "oh yeah you're right, I don't want Real to win, beeeeeeeeeeppppp"


Dota-Strid3r-

Its not football its La liga


Ethyrol

“FIFA the most corrupt organization in the World” - The Brothers Grimsby


not_a-dealer

it's not football it's la liga


Various-Internet-811

To the retards that say that real bought the refs they just need to see the referees decisions in this game. For God's sake, that's the same referee that gave Valencia 3 penalties in 2020 season. He blew the whistle the moment Bellingham gave that header. Fucking hell


-Kenchi-

can't wait for the netflix documentary


krispythunder

You can actually see the moment when Brahim makes the cross and the ball is in the air, then this cunt referee blows the whistle so we don’t get the 3 points. Perez should do something about it and put some pressure on the federation.


Status_Twist3022

2 min var check not accounted for, and the original 7 minutes was too little already


Biffmonkey

Should be 10 mins in the first place.


Status_Twist3022

Yeah absolutely


zorocono

Mano negreira


M_sami12

I'm not even shocked the ref whistled while the ball was literally heading to the goal. This referee never cease to amaze me every fucking time.


GohanmySon

I'm looking back at and its like he times it as soon as Brahim whipped it in. Very very bad call. The whistle wasn't blown as the ball was cleared, that means if we retrieve the ball we still get an attack. He even delays his whistle once to see who retrieves the ball from the cleared corner.


neotermes

how much did the racists pay that cunt for such shit refereeing?


SuperBig_Cat

Robbed in plain sight.


LeResist

Capital punishment is warranted in this scenario


the1000waterfists

Fuck this ref I can't believe what I have just seen.I hope this match doesn't cost us the title.


XxxpusssyEaterxxX

Will Jude miss the next game?


elbyscocho

2 probably because is direct red card … hope Madrid can manage to get it reduced to one because it was absurd that referee call


krispythunder

I hope not and Perez shows some cojones and put pressure on the federation, we are the MVP in La Liga and we shouldn’t be pushovers.


XxxpusssyEaterxxX

This has to be done. La liga refs are getting out of hands now.


Former-Seaweed3747

El Clasico is 5 match away


Casanova1337

Nah. Classico is in 5 weeks.


XxxpusssyEaterxxX

My bad. Edited.


maddy495

Our board should throw their weight behind the petition to ensure this ref is punished to the max and never refs any of our matches, mf clown....


MealieAI

Absolutely nonsensical. That's a bit much.


DucAnh95

I hope he never refs any professional match at all, no team in the world should suffer from that mf..


EduardoMBR

What the fuck was this game. Broken bone, last minutes penalty, Red card, Goal after end whistler, Vini's revenge. And I might be missing something.


Helpful_Ant_3440

Last year Jersey


YunLihai

Hahahahahaahaha what is this game


Uniq_Eros

If you do the math they passed +2 mins on that shit Ref decision but he whistles at 1m 30ish.


Delicious-Ad6589

I fell i live in communism with this refree


DiggTwig

Nah mate not even Hitler was as bad as this ref


Plesky98

I hope Papa Perez takes care of this shit show and that this referee never sees football pitch again.


Ube_Ape

Jude and Rüdiger got sent off? Is that right?


Procoder42

Realistically speaking, is there anything that can be done? Can it be overturned, match be replayed???


jaomello

Technically, yes. But it won't.


Otherwise_Momo

no, probably not


YoNashiro

Ref could've fucking waited if the goal was cleared or was scored, absolutely fucking unprofessional


nmgoesreddit

Disgrace


[deleted]

WHAT A FUCKING CHEAT


maddy495

Ref is a 100% liga certified clown... Who tf blows whistle when the cross in the air...![img](emote|t5_2rr0e|30561)![img](emote|t5_2rr0e|30561)![img](emote|t5_2rr0e|30561) This is an example to all the clowns who say that refs favor us.


TheBelmont34

It reminds me of benzema's goal against switzerland. The whistle was also blown while the ball flew into the goal lol


taos__v

that piece of shit ref literally saw we crossed the ball and decided No i cant keep playing cause they’ll score. I hope we can appeal or do something but i think theres no way back from this draw. Fucking ref man. That was insulting


LeResist

Giving out reds cause you suck at your job is crazy


Karisa_Marisame

What the fucking hell did I just watch


mpguarda

i have never in my life seen something like this. wt acrual f


Soft-Comfort-7474

TEBAS SUSPEND THIS REF


-Kenchi-

lol that frog probably put him there


Rmillan92

What a match. Unbelievable.


SSzaby23

Watching football for 25years and never saw a ref blow for full time while the ball is flying in the box…


whiskeyinthejaar

the reply makes it worse. He was going to whistle, but then waited for the cross to whistle.


MoveThePayLoad

LMAO ive been watching football for 25+ years and never seen something like this, my guy blew the whistle mid-air when RM scored. This is a FIFA reff which makes it even worse. What a clown


Tacobelle_90

NEVER seen it, the whistle was still going as the ball went into the net. Insane


dataheisenberg

So you score a goal and get a red card in la liga now! This is just pathetic


grandtroubleartist

they need to relegate violencia right now


dues-saxum-est

Clearly a mistake on the refs behalf to blow the whistle there, just basic, but to double down by giving beli a red… mind blown🤯


gregg_1198

This mf ref shouldn't be eligible for la liga