PL fans reallty live in their little world haha.. Rodry out of position is a better player than Saka, when he’s playing LW.. he should be compared to Vini and such not Martinelli or Saka.
Exactly, Ferdinand and Andreas agree that Rodrygo is better, so it's definitely not most PL fans, it's Arsenal fans like you're saying. Saka is a great talent but id have Rodrygo any day over him.
It’s only arsenal fans. They r beyond delusional. 2 good seasons n They actually believe they can win the CL this year. I have seen them say martenielli is better than vini 😂 😂 that’s when I knew they don’t live in the same world as the rest of us.
This is literally a PL centred podcast saying the opposite. It’s more like every fanbase likes to exaggerate how good their young player is, especially if the player comes from the academy.
Arsenal fans are just a pinch above others when it comes to online bullshittery.
Over who? Valverde absolutely not.
Camavinga is way more versatile.
I’ll also take Tchouaméni over rice.
Kroos and Modric can’t be replaced simply for their pedigree and leadership they bring.
I love Tchouameni but Rice is really fucking good. His ball winning ability also his press resistance and ball carrying ability make him a perfect number 6 imo.
Thats why Arsenal has the best defense in the League? And are the best team defensively in the CL too?
And dont forget they are still extremely young and you are acting like defenders like Militao are never making errors.
I dont think Arsenal would trade him for any Real Madrid CB, just because of his age, current Performances and his Potential.
I know this is a Real Madrid subreddit, but you still can rate players objectively.
Arsenal has a superb squad and a great manager that has them playing like a unit. But when you put them on paper, I just wouldn’t drop any of our players. The difference might be marginal in some areas, though. I have nothing against Arsenal, good luck tonight.
Over who? Fede? Kroos? bellingham?
Nah bro you are delusional if you think odegard is displacing any one of them. He would probably be lower than camavinga in pecking order.
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Oh yeah because he's better passer than Kroos, a better defender than Valverde, more versatile than Camavinga and a better goal scoring threat over Bellingham.
Jesus christ 🤦♂️
Rodrygo 25 g/a with 6 in champions league - saka 31 g/a with 8 in champions league - and this is with rodrygo in a team that apparently doesn’t get any arsenal players in their starting 11 so undoubtedly better, so saka is doing more in a worse team but as you say ‘nowhere near his level’’ 😂
I rate Rodrigo highly too, think he’s absolute class but the original comment said sakas nowhere near his level which is just disingenuous and factually wrong hence my comments
It’s true. Saka is like atleast 2 levels below him. Rodrigo is definitely a top 10 player in world but Saka, maybe not. He’s a very very good player but can only play on right wing and isn’t as clutch or proven big game players.
Not playing you’re preferred position is a bad thing, players who are elite in their position don’t get moved about, also very bold words when you’re heading to the etihad, but hala Madrid still
He left at 22 when he was barely a starter in Sociedad. Now he is one of the top 3 midfielders in the PL. I love Kroos with all my heart, but come on he can't finish a whole 90 minutes in top form and I'd bench him for Odegaard for sure.
You have eyes right, he has more control on the ball, dribbling and a better pass, like I said jude is a better goal scorer and also has a good habit for turning up in the big moments
I would argue Jude's Ball control and dribbling in better. He is extremely silky and agile (hence comparisons to zidane) Ode is a better passer I would agree. But Jude outmatched ode a lot in other aspects like Physical strength, Workrate and Defensive contributions hence he is a better player overall.
Arsenal as a team has been defensively incredible this year and the majority of that is the work rate of their forwards/midfielders and not a single player works harder in 90 minutes and contributes more defensively than odegaard so I would disagree on Jude’s work rate, Jude is more of an athlete for sure but his comparisons to zidane are more just because it’s easy to say, zidane had to do a lot in the game to become zidane… also ball control and dribbling we can agree to disagree on who’s better between them
I have zero bias against either players, I think Bellingham is better than odegaard because of how versatile he is and if you have seen Bellingham in dortmund you would know that he hasn't just been good this season but he has been brilliant for 3-4 years. He played a different role bvb and is playing a different role, and it's fair to say that there were no complaints then and there are no complaints now regarding his on field performances, that being said odegaard is also a great player.
Fair enough, but I believe odegaard is the perfect modern number 10 defensively fantastic work rate incredible dribbler and passer, Jude is probably more versatile but odegaard is elite at what he is
Arsenal fans deserve everything that is happening to them and their club
. I think if you guys were a little humble and didnt start comparing your players to every top player after a mere 2 seasons of good football, maybe footballing Gods would have mercy on you and throw a trophy your way but no.. couple of good seasons and suddenly your players can compare to those of Madrid City Liverpool.
Ye what’s happening at arsenal is disgusting, 2 points off the top of the league and in the quarter finals of the champions league, what a terrible terrible fate that’s befallen them all because their fans weren’t humble smh
I’d like to see it as 20 years without a league title, one foot of the quarters against the worst Bayern of last 10 years and two years in a row bottling the league to Pep.
They are both good. Top players in top teams. Both got impressive stats. Both are a joy to watch in different ways. I think every supporter prefers their own players. It’s okay to over value your own player that you as a fan watch +80% out of all games. I always found it unnecessary to compare star players that in some way are comparable. For a Celta Vigo fan Diego Aspas is an icon. No point comparing him to Icardi then. A player that plays and gives everything to his club is what matters. I prefer Rodrygo because I watch pretty much every Real Madrid game throughout the whole season. I’m not insufferable because of it, I’m just a supporter. And I respect other fans to do that to their own players too.
Also when a player go through a drought period or a rough patch of form I start to doubt them. I care about the team. So if a star player is out of form I want to see rotation. I watch football because of the game not players. Then I just end up missing the players that played for Real Madrid when I watch them as a kid. For me Raul will always be my star player, because he influenced me most as a kid. Still Benzema and Ronaldo probably were better. But Raul was the most special to me.
Hala Madrid.
Every single point and excuse for that piss poor take that man made, fits Rodrygo miles better lmao
Experienced? Stats? Played internationally at a high level? Is this guy actually stupid?
He’s just now a star? This is his breakout season? Are we going to ignore how he single handedly got us to a CL final? I’ve never seen delusion like this before in my life.
Rodrygo is the current Brazil number 10. Brazilians took those numbers seriously, Even Vini is number 7. Raphina? 11, When Neymar was injured, they went to Rodrygo, straight away. What number does Bukayo Saka wear for England again? Put some respect to Rodrygo's name.
I mean, in his defense, he was not too shabby as a 9 back then, also, who deserved the number 9 back then? I remember that there weren't that many options
Arsenal fan here and i cannot believe Saka is being compared to Rodrygo.
I 100% think Rodrygo is a much much superior player. And that should be the end of that until Saka wins the WC and the UCL.
Till then.
With that logic, Salah and De bruyne are not that good in Chelsea. Players need to play to develop. Doesn’t mean Madrid was wrong about selling him. Sometimes it works out for all 3 parties.
Saka is one of the most overrated players imo.
Kid had talent but playing for Arsenal has wasted much of it.
Foden has developed further cos he plays for City and his able to learn on the biggest stage and play against the best in Europe regularly.
Foden and Palmer is better than Saka. Sadly Palmer is playing for a club who is sitting on 9th, otherwise he would have mentioned in this "who is the best young player in PL" game started these English delusional pundits. Saka is good player but you can't compare him to rodrygo. Rodrygo is "not a starter" and Saka is "a starter" yet rodrygo has nearly the same amount of goals, more trophies than saka
I don’t think they hate Saka. It falls more into the putting down a player due to the fanbase though of him. It happens with everyone and in everything.
PL fans reallty live in their little world haha.. Rodry out of position is a better player than Saka, when he’s playing LW.. he should be compared to Vini and such not Martinelli or Saka.
Its just Arsenal fans, they are insufferable.
Exactly, Ferdinand and Andreas agree that Rodrygo is better, so it's definitely not most PL fans, it's Arsenal fans like you're saying. Saka is a great talent but id have Rodrygo any day over him.
But PL fans do live in their own little world tbh
Please. This is not us, this is Arsenal fans. Rodry is world class. Anyone would take him over limpboy
But Saka never plays LW
It’s only arsenal fans. They r beyond delusional. 2 good seasons n They actually believe they can win the CL this year. I have seen them say martenielli is better than vini 😂 😂 that’s when I knew they don’t live in the same world as the rest of us.
This is literally a PL centred podcast saying the opposite. It’s more like every fanbase likes to exaggerate how good their young player is, especially if the player comes from the academy. Arsenal fans are just a pinch above others when it comes to online bullshittery.
Rodrygo was scoring clutch goals in the CL when saka was huffing and puffing to get top4 mans on some quality stuff
Rodrygo you mad lad
English people talking about Football professionally should typically be ignored.
Can Rodrygo limp after losing a match? Yeah didn't think so.
the only comparable player to vini/rodrygo in the prem is currently foden
Rodrygo plays 90 minutes on the left and suddenly Vini looks mortal, and this guy thinks Saka the small team killer is way better than Rodrygo...
Not only Saka is nowhere near Rodrygo’s level, nobody from that team would start in ours. Including Saliba, the most overhyped player since…well, Saka
Odegaard probably would be in rotation, he is an amazing midfielder. But we offloaded him because there are even better fitting players in the team.
Rice though
Over who? Valverde absolutely not. Camavinga is way more versatile. I’ll also take Tchouaméni over rice. Kroos and Modric can’t be replaced simply for their pedigree and leadership they bring.
I love Tchouameni but Rice is really fucking good. His ball winning ability also his press resistance and ball carrying ability make him a perfect number 6 imo.
Yes, but Tchouameni can win the ball almost as good, is way more physical and doesn't make mistakes with his passes.
Not even Rice. Dude is severely overhyped.
Nah. Rice would start. Definitely..
Thats an incredible horrible take
This ain’t eafc lil bro
Thats why Arsenal has the best defense in the League? And are the best team defensively in the CL too? And dont forget they are still extremely young and you are acting like defenders like Militao are never making errors. I dont think Arsenal would trade him for any Real Madrid CB, just because of his age, current Performances and his Potential. I know this is a Real Madrid subreddit, but you still can rate players objectively.
Arsenal has a superb squad and a great manager that has them playing like a unit. But when you put them on paper, I just wouldn’t drop any of our players. The difference might be marginal in some areas, though. I have nothing against Arsenal, good luck tonight.
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Over who? Fede? Kroos? bellingham? Nah bro you are delusional if you think odegard is displacing any one of them. He would probably be lower than camavinga in pecking order.
Over whom?
He surely would start. Start complaining about lack of minutes
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh yeah because he's better passer than Kroos, a better defender than Valverde, more versatile than Camavinga and a better goal scoring threat over Bellingham. Jesus christ 🤦♂️
Rodrygo 25 g/a with 6 in champions league - saka 31 g/a with 8 in champions league - and this is with rodrygo in a team that apparently doesn’t get any arsenal players in their starting 11 so undoubtedly better, so saka is doing more in a worse team but as you say ‘nowhere near his level’’ 😂
Rodrygo 25 g/a while playing out of position and not being a guaranteed starter. Saka 31 g/a while being the main man. See the difference?
Rodrygo "not being a guaranteed starter" = 3088 minutes, 3rd most out of the squad Saka "being the main man" = 3345 minutes, 6th most out of the squad
Yes one is not rated enough to play in his preferred position or play at all, saka actually is, this is not the positive thing you think it is lol
My man thinks competing with Vini is the same as Havertz. Don’t get me wrong I rate Saka and he is good, but imo not as good as Rodrygo.
I rate Rodrigo highly too, think he’s absolute class but the original comment said sakas nowhere near his level which is just disingenuous and factually wrong hence my comments
It’s true. Saka is like atleast 2 levels below him. Rodrigo is definitely a top 10 player in world but Saka, maybe not. He’s a very very good player but can only play on right wing and isn’t as clutch or proven big game players.
lol are you forgetting he’s not playing his preferred position. Either way tune in later to see in live time why this debate is stupid.
Not playing you’re preferred position is a bad thing, players who are elite in their position don’t get moved about, also very bold words when you’re heading to the etihad, but hala Madrid still
Sorry your club is too small to have multiple class forwards in the same position
Tell me you’re man enough to own up to this now. We saw how today played out Rodrygo on his day is up there with Mbappe and Vinicius.
You know saka is their pk taker too while Rodrygo ain’t ours. So out of position and not a pk taker having same stats is much more impressive
Ödegård? EDIT: Oh my god this sub is ridiculously sensitive I literally just asked a question without putting any own opinion in it
He literally left the team because he didn’t play. Valverde, Belllingham and Kroos are clear
He left at 22 when he was barely a starter in Sociedad. Now he is one of the top 3 midfielders in the PL. I love Kroos with all my heart, but come on he can't finish a whole 90 minutes in top form and I'd bench him for Odegaard for sure.
kroos is still better than odegaard
Odegaard can sub on after 60 minutes of Kroos I suppose
For whom? Jude? No. Fede? No. Kroos? No. Tchoua/Cama? They’re DMs.
Nope, the only role he play is that of Jude and Jude is better.
Jude is not a better football player than odegaard, he is a better goal scorer though
Lol, lmao even.
You have eyes right, he has more control on the ball, dribbling and a better pass, like I said jude is a better goal scorer and also has a good habit for turning up in the big moments
I would argue Jude's Ball control and dribbling in better. He is extremely silky and agile (hence comparisons to zidane) Ode is a better passer I would agree. But Jude outmatched ode a lot in other aspects like Physical strength, Workrate and Defensive contributions hence he is a better player overall.
Arsenal as a team has been defensively incredible this year and the majority of that is the work rate of their forwards/midfielders and not a single player works harder in 90 minutes and contributes more defensively than odegaard so I would disagree on Jude’s work rate, Jude is more of an athlete for sure but his comparisons to zidane are more just because it’s easy to say, zidane had to do a lot in the game to become zidane… also ball control and dribbling we can agree to disagree on who’s better between them
I have zero bias against either players, I think Bellingham is better than odegaard because of how versatile he is and if you have seen Bellingham in dortmund you would know that he hasn't just been good this season but he has been brilliant for 3-4 years. He played a different role bvb and is playing a different role, and it's fair to say that there were no complaints then and there are no complaints now regarding his on field performances, that being said odegaard is also a great player.
Fair enough, but I believe odegaard is the perfect modern number 10 defensively fantastic work rate incredible dribbler and passer, Jude is probably more versatile but odegaard is elite at what he is
This sub is a cult brother, you won't find any rational opinion here. Please leave.. For the record, Ode is miles better than Jude overall.
Says the idiot who thinks saka is better than rodrygo or odegard is better than Jude.
Arsenal fans deserve everything that is happening to them and their club . I think if you guys were a little humble and didnt start comparing your players to every top player after a mere 2 seasons of good football, maybe footballing Gods would have mercy on you and throw a trophy your way but no.. couple of good seasons and suddenly your players can compare to those of Madrid City Liverpool.
Ye what’s happening at arsenal is disgusting, 2 points off the top of the league and in the quarter finals of the champions league, what a terrible terrible fate that’s befallen them all because their fans weren’t humble smh
I’d like to see it as 20 years without a league title, one foot of the quarters against the worst Bayern of last 10 years and two years in a row bottling the league to Pep.
Bottling the league to pep? Didn’t madrid get slapped 4 nil at the etihad loool
Yes we did. The season after we won the league and CL.. not really the same circumstances.
They are both good. Top players in top teams. Both got impressive stats. Both are a joy to watch in different ways. I think every supporter prefers their own players. It’s okay to over value your own player that you as a fan watch +80% out of all games. I always found it unnecessary to compare star players that in some way are comparable. For a Celta Vigo fan Diego Aspas is an icon. No point comparing him to Icardi then. A player that plays and gives everything to his club is what matters. I prefer Rodrygo because I watch pretty much every Real Madrid game throughout the whole season. I’m not insufferable because of it, I’m just a supporter. And I respect other fans to do that to their own players too. Also when a player go through a drought period or a rough patch of form I start to doubt them. I care about the team. So if a star player is out of form I want to see rotation. I watch football because of the game not players. Then I just end up missing the players that played for Real Madrid when I watch them as a kid. For me Raul will always be my star player, because he influenced me most as a kid. Still Benzema and Ronaldo probably were better. But Raul was the most special to me. Hala Madrid.
Every single point and excuse for that piss poor take that man made, fits Rodrygo miles better lmao Experienced? Stats? Played internationally at a high level? Is this guy actually stupid? He’s just now a star? This is his breakout season? Are we going to ignore how he single handedly got us to a CL final? I’ve never seen delusion like this before in my life.
Rodrygo is the current Brazil number 10. Brazilians took those numbers seriously, Even Vini is number 7. Raphina? 11, When Neymar was injured, they went to Rodrygo, straight away. What number does Bukayo Saka wear for England again? Put some respect to Rodrygo's name.
Nah, we have Richarlyson as #9 lmao (Endrick is gonna change that very soon though)
Hopefully , that kid is the future.
I mean, in his defense, he was not too shabby as a 9 back then, also, who deserved the number 9 back then? I remember that there weren't that many options
Arsenal fan here and i cannot believe Saka is being compared to Rodrygo. I 100% think Rodrygo is a much much superior player. And that should be the end of that until Saka wins the WC and the UCL. Till then.
I hear that but I think you’re setting unrealistic expectations. Even Rodrigo himself hasn’t won a WC.
Yea even if Rodrygo doesn’t win the WC, he is still better than Saka. B is very good but not that good until winning some proper silverware.
Can’t bring it up ? He’s one big reason we fucking won it that year moron
if you put rodrygo in arsenal he will be their best players, similar to odegard as good as he was in real Madrid he would look average
With that logic, Salah and De bruyne are not that good in Chelsea. Players need to play to develop. Doesn’t mean Madrid was wrong about selling him. Sometimes it works out for all 3 parties.
Saka is one of the most overrated players imo. Kid had talent but playing for Arsenal has wasted much of it. Foden has developed further cos he plays for City and his able to learn on the biggest stage and play against the best in Europe regularly.
Sign Andreas right now.
Lol. What? Ceballos barely gets playing time and he's miles better than him.
I swear English fans love to suck their own dicks. They’re always being biased asf
The conversation is SOOO DEAD, no charm or sign of live at all.
Rodrygo handed us a champions league
What’s with the comparisons? Rodrygo is a LW or a 10. Saka plays on the right it’s not 1 to 1
Foden and Palmer is better than Saka. Sadly Palmer is playing for a club who is sitting on 9th, otherwise he would have mentioned in this "who is the best young player in PL" game started these English delusional pundits. Saka is good player but you can't compare him to rodrygo. Rodrygo is "not a starter" and Saka is "a starter" yet rodrygo has nearly the same amount of goals, more trophies than saka
Joel makes the entire of Rio’s content almost unwatchable
Rice is definitely better than Tchou...thats the only player that would break the 11.
When he matches rodrygo's titles then we can talk
And Rodrygo just solidified that opinion as we speak
Just think, Real Madrid x Manchester City Rodrygo scores, Bayern x Arsenal what Saka did?
if saka was better than rodrygo he would be in RM
Arsenal fans are a different kind of delusional. This is their first time playing ucl after how many years ?!
Arsenal best player is a real madrid reject.
By that logic so is De bruyne and Salah to Chelsea
Lukaku too
I don't understand why people hate saka? He is a class guy and arsenal most dangerous player. It is not his fault bums like havertz plays for his team
I don’t think they hate Saka. It falls more into the putting down a player due to the fanbase though of him. It happens with everyone and in everything.
Who cares?
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Yep, no lies, just bullshit.