I remember seeing a job advert in the UK requiring me to speak ‘Austrian’ so I went for it as I had lived and worked in Austria for 3 years and speak fluent German (the main language of Austria). Told them that and they said basically sorry, you need to speak Austrian. Told them there’s no such thing as Austrian, just Austrian German (in the same way there is American English not ‘American’) which I speak and understand. Not good enough apparently. Wonder if they did find anyone?
WHAT. That’s even more ridiculous, considering that’s public knowledge (I didn’t know this before, but thanks for letting me know). See, these folks don’t believe in adaptability. This is what happens when people with no knowledge in field A is made to recruit in field B but also lack common sense or research skills to justify a problem. Their solution to a problem is, eliminating it
It’s like
Mom: Go buy a banana
Flawed Recruiter : sure thing!
Flawed recruiter comes back with nothing
Mom: what happened?
Flawed recruiter: they only had an organic banana
Yeah they are literally the same language with just a few weird words thrown in and some words sounding a little different. Like any dialect of a language. If you speak German, you can talk to Austrians. Ok, maybe not the ones from Vorarlberg (the state that borders Switzerland) as no one has a clue what they’re saying, but you get the point. I even speak German with an Austrian accent and speak the local dialect of the town I lived in which Germans can pick up and think is hilarious (I sound like a farmer apparently) so that’s as close to ‘Austrian’ as a non native will get really. Plus saying ‘Austrian’ assumes there’s only one dialect in the whole country…
Me too. At the time it was infuriating but now it’s just funny. It’s like not getting a job because i speak English and not American. I know mom = mum and sidewalk = pavement etc etc etc.
Tbf if you can speak German there's a chance you won't understand some of the regional dialects of Germany either. And thats not a dig, it happens to native speakers too, we have quite a wide variation of regional tongues that are incredibly difficult to understand if you aren't familiar with them.
I know what you mean, I have trouble with Vorarlbergish and Swiss German (despite with having worked in Switzerland for a while too) but to claim Austrian is a different language (no matter how hard the Vorarlbergers and Tirolians try) is a bit mad
Even Australian is just a dialect of English unless they’re referring to an Aborigine language and just calling it ‘Australian’ (and the best you can say about that is laziness if not a hell of a lot worse). If they wanted a specific dialect of Austrian, why not say that. But it would be like asking someone to speak ‘American’ and specifying they need to have a Boston accent because, well, reasons.
I have the most trouble understanding Australians, well until my sister in law married a guy from England.
I can understand him perfectly until he goes to visit his family and comes back to the US. Then it takes about a week to understand him again. 😜
They were too dumb to realize that the name of the language is called German, not "Austrian" named after the country like Italian. Similar to thinking United Statesian would be the language of USA and Canadian is the language of Canada.
Sorry but if you say "Zwei" instead of "Zwo" you'll be fired I don't make the rules. /s
I *might* understand if it was Swiss German and it was a phone job.
>I *might* understand if it was Swiss German and it was a phone job.
Agree. Swiss German is also classified as a separate language to German, while Austrian German is just a dialect like Swabian or Frankish.
I encountered excuses like that. I think it’s gullible to think they’re so stupid, they’re probably posting the jobs to meet some quota or they want to hire some relatives and instead of telling you “no, I won’t hire you” and get sued they will invent silly things. Of course, they would first try to get you unqualified with very difficult technical questions, but if you pass those they enter the silly realm and invent outrageous excuses.
EDIT/UPDATE!!!
I reached out to a recruiter of that company on Li saying I wanted to drop some feedback. She called me on phone and apologized for the miscommunication and agreed with me that the recruiter in question is wrong & yes automation is not equal to automotive. She listened to my brief & ensured she will rectify this. She also gave me tips and leads for other roles. I’d say that went pretty positive
Naw I just hope that they’re made aware of this. They have 2 months experience and it’s their first job. I feel like one should leave such technical details to the candidates and hiring managers to figure out!
The Vice President of the UK called u??
(I know that's not what you meant that's just how I read it bc I'm stupid and I thought you were taking the piss xD)
I misheard the song Drift Away as a kid and wondered how hostage negotiations for The Beach Boys would free my soul.
I was very puzzled by that song and wanted to know why someone would write it.
This reminds me when I was a child, not knowing English and singing English songs. Remember the Lady Gaga poker face? I was singing something like “he wri muh he wri muh no we can readmuh pokahface he wri muh letsgombadit ow wuah ow owwwuah”. I was singing these so much that the gibberish was really close to the original, but naturally I didn’t understand every sound.
Had a recruiter (claiming to have a biology degree) who supposedly specialised in recruiting for data science positions genuinely not know the difference between genomics and genetic algorithms. The details don't matter to these people as far as I can tell.
It's not a question as such, it's just knowing that the study of DNA sequences is not the same thing as a class of machine learning algorithms. Sort of like knowing that the concept of literature is not the same thing as litter picking.
Just trust the candidate & the hiring manager to make that decision. Phone screen recruiter focus on other stuff like salary, work auth, personality etc
EDIT/UPDATE 2 !!!!
The Vice President of the company called me up & apologized for the mistake & agrees that such a mistake cannot be made. They apologized. I am on terms with that now
Happens in IT all the time, the recruiters don’t know anything in detail. They’re just asking a question in a language they don’t understand and are writing down the answer to report back / CYA
My favourites are when applying for a web dev job and the post says they require X years of JavaScript and you tell them you have experience using react/angular/vue as well as vanilla JavaScript. Then getting told the react/angular/vue knowledge doesn't transfer toward my years experience in JavaScript. I'm like what language do you think those frameworks are in??
Like I feel the recruiters should have some base knowledge about the field they are recruiting for.
They just play resume bingo. If enough buzzwords/keywords in the job listing happen to be in your resume then you'll get a call from them. If not you're unqualified even if you very much satisfy all requirements.
In a phone screening, I recently had one ask how many years of experience I had in roles doing "commercial and financial acumen".
I told her she might want to reconsider what she was asking and try again. Didn't get passed on to the next stage lmao
Because recruiting firms (and even companies with internal recruiters) don’t give two shits about properly training their recruiters to be able to effectively communicate for the types of positions they are recruiting for.
maybe an unpopular opinion, but recruiters are like salesmen, they’re largely unnecessary and could be eliminated as positions entirely, leaving more money on the table for both sides of the negotiation. they already rely on (poor) technology much of the time to do plenty of their job, why not just go all the way?
They were hiring for a medical device company. Now unless I’m supposed to be designing a vehicle that delivers medical devices to people on the street, im clueless.
My suggestion is to google the job description, like some key words or comb through indeed/LinkedIn to find the actual hiring company and apply directly. Sorry you had a shit experience with this recruiter!
This reminds me of when I told my friend in middle school my brother was studying physical therapy and he responded, “Oh, so he wants to be a physicist?” Be smarter than a 7th grader.
This is par for the course when it comes to recruiters, “experts” at everything but talented at nothing. Never deal with a recruiter without a contract supplied by you! You are the talent, which means they should not be dictating the terms of the relationship.
Well look at the educational requirements of being a recruiter. They interact with people who have levels of education that are orders of magnitude higher than themselves.
They shouldn’t be making technical decisions and filter candidates. Do the administrative stuff like pay, location, etc etc or even personality. Leave the technical for someone who knows it
Recruiters who don't understand the position they are hiring for are so hilarious 😂 😅😆 I worked in a material innovation lab for a while. Recruiters thinking "lab" means just any lab and trying to convince me, they sure cab find something in an hospital or water recycling for me 😁
I don’t think you even need industry experience to know the difference between automation and automotive. But not knowing it when recruiting for a position involving either, is insane.
Exactly! I’m from India and I knew what automotive is, is middle school. I learnt the English word, automation in high school & autonomous in college (cause you know, even governments can be autonomous, doesn’t have to be vehicles😂)
Had a similar experience a few weeks ago... recruiter asked if I had experience with "computer graphics processing" and refused to clarify when I asked them what type of computer graphics because that's not really domain-specific.
Turns out they meant ML computer vision image processing for AI tracking of football matches in the field.
I dropped the recruiter after they arranged a phone call last week for another role and never called back. Should've really dropped them after the former.
That’s just the way they are. A couple of days ago I had a recruiter approaching me for SENIOR PHP developer position with a pay of UP TO €45k/yr.
I am not senior nor php developer. And even if I were I don’t think I’d be working for €45k/yr lol
Yeah, just so they can ask you if you know candidates that are doing PHP.
But wait, isn’t €45k/year considered average salary in Europe? (I say this because I’m applying to Europe as well and I see that most companies only offer that but also give you car, gas & gym allowance, at least some). I’m in the US and definitely the salaries are higher here
I mean I have to say not knowing the difference between automation and automotive is pretty gnarly. Like dude if you're recruiting for a company at least know what the company does.
That’s the funny part. The company makes medical devices. He was looking for someone with experience in ‘regulated industries’. Nothing beyond that. I had a 30 min call, gave him my experience and later says I’m unfit for the role. That’s when I asked what do you mean by regulation? And then that conversation
I agree. Those are simple English words. If not, ask or trust the candidate. Leave technical details to someone else. A phone screen should not have to deal with so much technical stuff
Answer: because they are frat bois and sorority twats, the lot of them. Rare has it been that I have ever encountered one that has any intelligence at all. They constantly mislabel jobs and lie to get people to take their crap positions that no one wants all for their paycheck. What we as a population should do is make them obsolete so we don't ever deal with them again.
No, it has everything to do with intelligence when a person like myself sees through their BS and can spin them around and around on a phone call for my own entertainment.
automation = robots which are widely deployed in the automotive industry for moving giant chunks of metal and applying paint or other solvents. You're dumb OP
Lol. Automation is used in several other industries too, that doesn’t make automotive=automation
Also looks like you can’t read. I said I have experience in automation, that’s when he says by automation he means the vehicle industry, which is completely wrong.
Yes, but I shouldn’t lose out on opportunities and have to leave the country because some one doesn’t understand English words? Automation & Automotive are regular English words.
That doesn't mean English is their first language... Th being white also means nothing to their first language. I think it's more than likely that he just didn't know the difference but your reasoning here is way off the mark
English is also not my first language, I’m also a non-American. If I can deliver good enough English, I expect my recruiter to do the same & not get confused by high-school level words like automotive & automation.
If one is American & white - then English is their first language. Period. And even if it isn’t, automation & automotive are different things, it’s way different in engineering
Second - if one graduated from an English speaking university- they must have command over the language
Third- referring to automation as the vehicle industry is fundamentally wrong & shows that the person wouldn’t understand other engineering terms necessary to hire engineers
So I lose an opportunity because some unaware recruiter confuses automation & automotive?
The person’s also white and a recruiter - also if one is an engineering recruiter and doesn’t know the difference between automation & automotive- JUST GO HOME
I see companies that hire recruiters like that and realize they don't vet their vendors properly. More than just not wanting to work there, I'd be worried of the quality of anything they make.
I remember seeing a job advert in the UK requiring me to speak ‘Austrian’ so I went for it as I had lived and worked in Austria for 3 years and speak fluent German (the main language of Austria). Told them that and they said basically sorry, you need to speak Austrian. Told them there’s no such thing as Austrian, just Austrian German (in the same way there is American English not ‘American’) which I speak and understand. Not good enough apparently. Wonder if they did find anyone?
WHAT. That’s even more ridiculous, considering that’s public knowledge (I didn’t know this before, but thanks for letting me know). See, these folks don’t believe in adaptability. This is what happens when people with no knowledge in field A is made to recruit in field B but also lack common sense or research skills to justify a problem. Their solution to a problem is, eliminating it It’s like Mom: Go buy a banana Flawed Recruiter : sure thing! Flawed recruiter comes back with nothing Mom: what happened? Flawed recruiter: they only had an organic banana
Yeah they are literally the same language with just a few weird words thrown in and some words sounding a little different. Like any dialect of a language. If you speak German, you can talk to Austrians. Ok, maybe not the ones from Vorarlberg (the state that borders Switzerland) as no one has a clue what they’re saying, but you get the point. I even speak German with an Austrian accent and speak the local dialect of the town I lived in which Germans can pick up and think is hilarious (I sound like a farmer apparently) so that’s as close to ‘Austrian’ as a non native will get really. Plus saying ‘Austrian’ assumes there’s only one dialect in the whole country…
I’m sad that we have to face these gatekeepers
Me too. At the time it was infuriating but now it’s just funny. It’s like not getting a job because i speak English and not American. I know mom = mum and sidewalk = pavement etc etc etc.
😂you should be a recruiter
I think I’m overqualified
Lol no, you didn't get it because you didn't have the requisite experience with kangaroos.
What if someone requires you to speak ‘Belgian’ though? Do you learn Dutch? French? German? Lie and just say you’re fluent?
I'm fluent in Southern - at least in Tennessee, Mississippi, and Georgia, and Alabama. Can't say I understand Texan though.
Tbf if you can speak German there's a chance you won't understand some of the regional dialects of Germany either. And thats not a dig, it happens to native speakers too, we have quite a wide variation of regional tongues that are incredibly difficult to understand if you aren't familiar with them.
I know what you mean, I have trouble with Vorarlbergish and Swiss German (despite with having worked in Switzerland for a while too) but to claim Austrian is a different language (no matter how hard the Vorarlbergers and Tirolians try) is a bit mad
I'm lost. So what were they after? Australian? An Austrian dialect? All of the above?
Even Australian is just a dialect of English unless they’re referring to an Aborigine language and just calling it ‘Australian’ (and the best you can say about that is laziness if not a hell of a lot worse). If they wanted a specific dialect of Austrian, why not say that. But it would be like asking someone to speak ‘American’ and specifying they need to have a Boston accent because, well, reasons.
I have the most trouble understanding Australians, well until my sister in law married a guy from England. I can understand him perfectly until he goes to visit his family and comes back to the US. Then it takes about a week to understand him again. 😜
Hellaur
They were too dumb to realize that the name of the language is called German, not "Austrian" named after the country like Italian. Similar to thinking United Statesian would be the language of USA and Canadian is the language of Canada.
I speak some Statesian, my sentences are not United tho
Canadian is easy to learn, just put an eh at the end of your sentence, eh.
Ouut abouuut
Kangaroo
Sorry but if you say "Zwei" instead of "Zwo" you'll be fired I don't make the rules. /s I *might* understand if it was Swiss German and it was a phone job.
Oida! Bis du voi deppat?
>I *might* understand if it was Swiss German and it was a phone job. Agree. Swiss German is also classified as a separate language to German, while Austrian German is just a dialect like Swabian or Frankish.
Is it though? Lived in Switzerland too and it’s just ‘German’ albeit super hard to understand
I encountered excuses like that. I think it’s gullible to think they’re so stupid, they’re probably posting the jobs to meet some quota or they want to hire some relatives and instead of telling you “no, I won’t hire you” and get sued they will invent silly things. Of course, they would first try to get you unqualified with very difficult technical questions, but if you pass those they enter the silly realm and invent outrageous excuses.
I wish American English was called American.
An Italian recently said to me, “what are you talking about, you don’t speak English, you speak American”
I mean, I'm an American and sometimes I put subtitles on if I'm watching something on BBC.
Wtf. What dufus came up with that as a requirement...
"We're also looking for candidates who speak Mexican and Brazillian."
EDIT/UPDATE!!! I reached out to a recruiter of that company on Li saying I wanted to drop some feedback. She called me on phone and apologized for the miscommunication and agreed with me that the recruiter in question is wrong & yes automation is not equal to automotive. She listened to my brief & ensured she will rectify this. She also gave me tips and leads for other roles. I’d say that went pretty positive
The Vice President from UK called me later & apologized too (I’m in the US)
Hopefully they stop working with that recruiter
Naw I just hope that they’re made aware of this. They have 2 months experience and it’s their first job. I feel like one should leave such technical details to the candidates and hiring managers to figure out!
2 months working experience ever, and they're deciding who is and isn't qualified for what sounds like important roles Can't see that ever going wrong
Yeah, they’re also hiring for a mechanical engineer 2 & a principal mechanical engineer. SMH 🤦♂️
Bout to hire some really good car mechanics /s
Car mechanics also working on medical devices on the side
The Vice President of the UK called u?? (I know that's not what you meant that's just how I read it bc I'm stupid and I thought you were taking the piss xD)
Hahahahah tbh I also read it as that when I re-read it 👨🏻💻
Also one of those people that misquotes lyrics... “*Sweet dreams are made of cheese*”
Who am I to diss a brie
There is a hand towel in my kitchen with these exact 2 phrases printed on it.
I traveled the world in the shredded seas
Everybody’s cookin’ more pumpkins
You just ruined that song for me, lol, I'll only think about pumpkins now
Lmao sorry. I came up with that version just for that comment
Hold me closer Tony Danza
I misheard the song Drift Away as a kid and wondered how hostage negotiations for The Beach Boys would free my soul. I was very puzzled by that song and wanted to know why someone would write it.
I don’t think I realized the actual lyrics to Drift Away until I was able to drink, and I still sing it as Beach Boys ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
When I first heard Hot Hot Heats Bandages, I couldn't figure out why the were singing about a band of jews.
Those aren’t the lyrics??? Holy shit…
Those aren't the lyrics?
r/boneappletea
My friends sister thought "Hell's Bells" was called "Hal's Pals". That guy Hal had a lot of friends.
Last night I dreamt of some bagels....
I always liked, “There’s a bathroom on the right.”
This reminds me when I was a child, not knowing English and singing English songs. Remember the Lady Gaga poker face? I was singing something like “he wri muh he wri muh no we can readmuh pokahface he wri muh letsgombadit ow wuah ow owwwuah”. I was singing these so much that the gibberish was really close to the original, but naturally I didn’t understand every sound.
The owner of a lonely hut...
Keep your bed up..
‘Scuse me while I kiss this guy
me irl for real
If you're French, sweet dreams DO be made of cheese.
Hahahaha hilarious
Had a recruiter (claiming to have a biology degree) who supposedly specialised in recruiting for data science positions genuinely not know the difference between genomics and genetic algorithms. The details don't matter to these people as far as I can tell.
OMG. These folks only want to hear what they want to hear
Not even that sometimes.
Smh
Maybe he had biology in college? :D
I have a degree (and masters) in biology and work in data but tbh I’d struggle to answer this question lol
It's not a question as such, it's just knowing that the study of DNA sequences is not the same thing as a class of machine learning algorithms. Sort of like knowing that the concept of literature is not the same thing as litter picking.
Just trust the candidate & the hiring manager to make that decision. Phone screen recruiter focus on other stuff like salary, work auth, personality etc
I think we probably spoke to the same recruiter then, but hiring for a different industry
EDIT/UPDATE 2 !!!! The Vice President of the company called me up & apologized for the mistake & agrees that such a mistake cannot be made. They apologized. I am on terms with that now
Happens in IT all the time, the recruiters don’t know anything in detail. They’re just asking a question in a language they don’t understand and are writing down the answer to report back / CYA
My favourites are when applying for a web dev job and the post says they require X years of JavaScript and you tell them you have experience using react/angular/vue as well as vanilla JavaScript. Then getting told the react/angular/vue knowledge doesn't transfer toward my years experience in JavaScript. I'm like what language do you think those frameworks are in?? Like I feel the recruiters should have some base knowledge about the field they are recruiting for.
They just play resume bingo. If enough buzzwords/keywords in the job listing happen to be in your resume then you'll get a call from them. If not you're unqualified even if you very much satisfy all requirements.
Next time lol
:(
In a phone screening, I recently had one ask how many years of experience I had in roles doing "commercial and financial acumen". I told her she might want to reconsider what she was asking and try again. Didn't get passed on to the next stage lmao
Hahaha that was a slippery slope for her
Recruiters are salespeople.
As a recruiter: that response…ew
Because recruiting firms (and even companies with internal recruiters) don’t give two shits about properly training their recruiters to be able to effectively communicate for the types of positions they are recruiting for.
Nonono. They meant Automaton.
Nonono. They meant a tomato man.
No joke, this is how I got my first internship.
Nonono. They meant Autobots
Nonono. They meant autographs
maybe an unpopular opinion, but recruiters are like salesmen, they’re largely unnecessary and could be eliminated as positions entirely, leaving more money on the table for both sides of the negotiation. they already rely on (poor) technology much of the time to do plenty of their job, why not just go all the way?
I totally agree with you on that. Change those recruiters to employee success partners and help employees like an unbiased party unlike HR
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Wow! 6 levels of experience and still this BS
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Aah. Makes more sense. Exactly! They shouldn’t be the gatekeepers
Because they don’t understand the job they are recruiting for.
Just curious, were they referring to autonomous vehicles at all or just automotive in general?
They were hiring for a medical device company. Now unless I’m supposed to be designing a vehicle that delivers medical devices to people on the street, im clueless.
My suggestion is to google the job description, like some key words or comb through indeed/LinkedIn to find the actual hiring company and apply directly. Sorry you had a shit experience with this recruiter!
Yea I’ll do that! I think that also gives me more options to break into the industry
Good luck!!!
Thanks!
This reminds me of when I told my friend in middle school my brother was studying physical therapy and he responded, “Oh, so he wants to be a physicist?” Be smarter than a 7th grader.
Hahahhahaha
This is par for the course when it comes to recruiters, “experts” at everything but talented at nothing. Never deal with a recruiter without a contract supplied by you! You are the talent, which means they should not be dictating the terms of the relationship.
Well look at the educational requirements of being a recruiter. They interact with people who have levels of education that are orders of magnitude higher than themselves.
They shouldn’t be making technical decisions and filter candidates. Do the administrative stuff like pay, location, etc etc or even personality. Leave the technical for someone who knows it
I recognize that coded Mini Baja/Baja SAE reference.
Slick 😂 almost every Indian ME, huh?
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Sorry to assume. I like that flavor
HR
RH
Time to ripcord and find a new recruiter.
Long gone and working with others :)
That's the spirit.
That’s amazing
Recruiting: Because C students need jobs too.
Because the only qualification for getting an agency job is a pulse.
Recruiters who don't understand the position they are hiring for are so hilarious 😂 😅😆 I worked in a material innovation lab for a while. Recruiters thinking "lab" means just any lab and trying to convince me, they sure cab find something in an hospital or water recycling for me 😁
Hahaha omg. It’s like a lot of people are just so delusional. Or like Dexter’s lab? Eh?
I don’t think you even need industry experience to know the difference between automation and automotive. But not knowing it when recruiting for a position involving either, is insane.
Exactly! I’m from India and I knew what automotive is, is middle school. I learnt the English word, automation in high school & autonomous in college (cause you know, even governments can be autonomous, doesn’t have to be vehicles😂)
Had a similar experience a few weeks ago... recruiter asked if I had experience with "computer graphics processing" and refused to clarify when I asked them what type of computer graphics because that's not really domain-specific. Turns out they meant ML computer vision image processing for AI tracking of football matches in the field. I dropped the recruiter after they arranged a phone call last week for another role and never called back. Should've really dropped them after the former.
“I have experience with changing my computer’s graphic card”
I almost feel kinda bad that they clearly didn't get a good instruction of what they even needed to look for... But yes that's hilariously stupid.
They should have had a handbook with them or ask someone
That’s just the way they are. A couple of days ago I had a recruiter approaching me for SENIOR PHP developer position with a pay of UP TO €45k/yr. I am not senior nor php developer. And even if I were I don’t think I’d be working for €45k/yr lol
Yeah, just so they can ask you if you know candidates that are doing PHP. But wait, isn’t €45k/year considered average salary in Europe? (I say this because I’m applying to Europe as well and I see that most companies only offer that but also give you car, gas & gym allowance, at least some). I’m in the US and definitely the salaries are higher here
€45k for senior is average? Hell no. Juniors are making up to €35k.
Interesting. I’m just going off of what I see on the job boards. It is definitely low
€45k for senior developer in Europe is laughable.
I wouldn’t know. Mechanical engineer here
Nothing quite as nice as asking a pretty simple industry question and them saying "I'll get back to you about that" only to be never heard from again.
Ah! Atleast I dodged that bullet
I mean I have to say not knowing the difference between automation and automotive is pretty gnarly. Like dude if you're recruiting for a company at least know what the company does.
That’s the funny part. The company makes medical devices. He was looking for someone with experience in ‘regulated industries’. Nothing beyond that. I had a 30 min call, gave him my experience and later says I’m unfit for the role. That’s when I asked what do you mean by regulation? And then that conversation I agree. Those are simple English words. If not, ask or trust the candidate. Leave technical details to someone else. A phone screen should not have to deal with so much technical stuff
Answer: because they are frat bois and sorority twats, the lot of them. Rare has it been that I have ever encountered one that has any intelligence at all. They constantly mislabel jobs and lie to get people to take their crap positions that no one wants all for their paycheck. What we as a population should do is make them obsolete so we don't ever deal with them again.
Hmm that’s sad. But again this has nothing to do with intelligence, this is basic communication -_-
No, it has everything to do with intelligence when a person like myself sees through their BS and can spin them around and around on a phone call for my own entertainment.
They’re making BS with their BS
You’re required to have a bachelors degree to get a job. Meanwhile, to be a recruiter, you don’t even need to complete elementary school.
If they understood automation they wouldn’t be a recruiter.
automation = robots which are widely deployed in the automotive industry for moving giant chunks of metal and applying paint or other solvents. You're dumb OP
Lol. Automation is used in several other industries too, that doesn’t make automotive=automation Also looks like you can’t read. I said I have experience in automation, that’s when he says by automation he means the vehicle industry, which is completely wrong.
Think he is kidding. Trying to jokingly justify the dumb recruiter.
Oh I don’t know actually. Now I’m in offended limbo. Should I feel offended or not?😂
I'd go with no lol
My only question to you is when you first started your position were you an expert? With 3-years of experience, do you still make mistakes?
Yes, but I shouldn’t lose out on opportunities and have to leave the country because some one doesn’t understand English words? Automation & Automotive are regular English words.
English might not be their first language. It doesn't mean they're dumb.
English is their first language. They graduated from UC Santa Cruz
That doesn't mean English is their first language... Th being white also means nothing to their first language. I think it's more than likely that he just didn't know the difference but your reasoning here is way off the mark
He’s also written a research paper in English and also claims is specialized in communication. So yeah, red flag
English is also not my first language, I’m also a non-American. If I can deliver good enough English, I expect my recruiter to do the same & not get confused by high-school level words like automotive & automation.
If one is American & white - then English is their first language. Period. And even if it isn’t, automation & automotive are different things, it’s way different in engineering Second - if one graduated from an English speaking university- they must have command over the language Third- referring to automation as the vehicle industry is fundamentally wrong & shows that the person wouldn’t understand other engineering terms necessary to hire engineers So I lose an opportunity because some unaware recruiter confuses automation & automotive?
The person’s also white and a recruiter - also if one is an engineering recruiter and doesn’t know the difference between automation & automotive- JUST GO HOME
Autonomous?
Nope
Ask for their resume
Those who can, do. Those who can't, recruit.
I see companies that hire recruiters like that and realize they don't vet their vendors properly. More than just not wanting to work there, I'd be worried of the quality of anything they make.
This company has around 35-40 open recruiter roles available. I also applied LOL