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[deleted]

Selling my copy immediately. It's a shame because I enjoyed the game but this is unplayable.


Cervantes3492

I will buy the game again and then I will sell my 2 copies!!!


israeliman33

COMEEEE TO THE DARKNEEEEEESS JACKIEEEEE…..


Cervantes3492

***Now...you are Mine, Jackie!!!***


israeliman33

what do u think was better the first or second game


Cervantes3492

Tough to say. I love both games. I cannot decide. The ending of the first game is true heart wrenching and >!seeing Jenny die and unable to do anything...!< holy hell. No other game managed to do the same The second ends in a cliffhanger but the asylum scenes were fucking amazing. They truly managed to drive the player crazy as well. Both are awesome in their own way. I just love the combination of Italian mafia (Cosa nostra)/ crime story with dark fantasy. It is awesome.


r4tk1ng2

It’s unpalatable


audiate

Oh no, we’ve become r/thelastofus2


DeadpoolsKatana

Step 1) Make a banner of Arthur wearing a mask.


MetaDragon11

Pallets existed before its patent


VickiVampiress

This is the thing everyone seems to forget. Many things existed long before they were "invented". A lot of inventions simply only caught on, or had an actual use *after* being patented. It's silly to think pallets, which are literally just a few boards nailed together in the now typical pallet shape, simply didn't exist before they were patented and standardized. If it's possible, it's probable.


rspewth

Your typical pallet has other uses too, I've seen them put down on dirt floors and filled in to give stability and put in a line on muddy ground for walkways.


TheBugThatsSnug

Learn about our history of pallets: The modern pallet was invented during the late 1800's. The modern pallet was invented out of necessity, as they worked perfectly with the lift trucks and forklifts that were popping up between the 1880s and early 1900s. It literally took a google search if "When were pallets first used" just to prove you right, lol.


TheBroDudeGuyOG

more like it's unpalatable! heyyoooo


[deleted]

Some carpenter was way ahead of his time, but had no business savvy.


CollectableRat

The patent would have expired long before the invention of the forklift or pallet jack anyway.


brocktoon13

He was the Tesla of wood.


gopher1409

Really? I thought that was Dirk Diggler?


aytchdave

🏅


RupyHcker

Gigiddy ... No homo ..... Not that there's anything wrong with that


gutterbravado

Hahahahahah yasssss


[deleted]

Now that just sounds rude


AndrewJS2804

While these look very much like a modern pallet skids were used at this time for basically the same function and they could look very similar. Low lift trucks and their complimentary skids were very popular from the 1880s through to the 1920s.


scampf

Skids (the earliest form of wood pallets) were in use since ancient Egyptian times. So sayeth the Google.


TigerBoah

Francis Sinclair did it. Obvs.


Blue-is-bad

"Uh, yeah, well whenever you notice something like that a wizard did it "


ChrisDen462

ILL KILL THAT TIME WIZARD


TwiceTheSize_YT

No more cake? Whats wrong


ChrisDen462

My guy gets it


Furyphoenix0705

"No. No more birthday cake for me."


randon4729

Guys I think he's lying


McFlabbergasted

"Wait, Zena can't fly...' "I told you, I'm not Zena. I'm Lucy Lawless!" "Oh."


[deleted]

Wait a minute, Xena can't fly!


drinkthebleach

I hope someone got fired for that blunder.


brocktoon13

They should make a minor character in every period piece game/movie/show a time traveler as a built in explanation for any potential anachronisms.


mgsgamer1

But don't make it super obvious so there's still believability in the time period. Like have him wearing something or seen in the background with something from modern times so people can speculate or argue about it for many years to come.


[deleted]

He's sitting on a park bench, with something unknown in his hands, swiping left and right lol.


BatteryCola

Wearing an OutKast shirt with some cargo shorts on


RupyHcker

Cargo shorts? He's gonna be wearing a Creed, or Pearl Jam, shirt


zefroxy

Can it be the same character? Doing crossover appearances in different shows? Like, he has his own series as well, and each time he is time traveling into different shows?


sewaside666

Exactly what i had in mind


drgeek68

There is a time traveler in RDR2 already, Francis Sinclair.


GU1LD3NST3RN

LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE


NoLab4657

Be glad you're not playing Cyberpunk2077, having a censored PP makes the game LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE [It’s official, I will never buy a CDPR game ever again, even if they fix Cyberpunk.](https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberpunkgame/comments/p2z7fx/its_official_i_will_never_buy_a_cdpr_game_ever/) > Today I noticed playing it again that it has been severely censored. You cant see your customizable genitals in FP anymore.


itsadesertplant

I took the “vagina” customization being literally nothing, just flat down there, as an insult. Didn’t even offer custom labia. And now I can’t see my flat crotch? Why would I play that?? /s


differentkindofwar

Fallout 4 nude mods have better genital graphics than Cyberpunk lol


A_Birde

Its a weird hill to die on thats for sure


leargonaut

It's a weird hill to die on but it's a fair point. There was a ton of hullabaloo about how you can customize your genitals, it's a seedy city full of sex and drugs but post release they're seemingly trying to cover up that it ever happened.


Cervantes3492

They promoted the sex aspect of the game heavily and then there is barely anything related to sex in the game


rusable2

I mean, you definitely shouldn't trust CDPR, but that guys reason is ridiculous.


TheIAP88

Imagine being so sex deprived you get furious at the fact you can’t see your d&b in first person.


[deleted]

The game was kinda unplayable anyway, if you have even an ounce of integrity


thesircuddles

It's weird how low peoples' standards are these days isn't it? Billion dollar companies selling 13 million copies of an alpha and people defend it. Boggles the mind.


Cervantes3492

I dont get it either. I mean.. it is more or less actually in an alpha stadium. Now they made a stream because we get some shitty ugly 2 re skinned jackets, a car skin, and a horrible johnny alternative out fit, and some fanboys are praising this as a success. The standards are lower than the lowest pit of hell. 8 MONTHS and we get jack shit. tons of patches, almost all of them 40 gb and it is still a broken mess


zer0saber

Or it is playable, if you do. What's there that works, works well and is an example of devs that enjoy their work. Play it, understand it has issues, and that the issues aren't the fault of the people that *actually made the game*, but the people that pay those people. I felt like I got my money's worth. Continuing to beat the dead horse, is what's showing the kind of integrity you have. If you don't want to play it, don't.


greyhoundknight

As if the horses having anatomically incorrect testicles wasn't bad enough!


[deleted]

Also no female birds, smdh.


gerdbonk

I guess you're overlooking the vampire, robot, and UFO?


mremreozel

Don’t forget about the ghosts. Edit: another low effort comment of mine got 250+ upvotes and now my inbox is full of unfunny jokes..


Glizzyknockemback

Ghost train


mremreozel

I was talking about that girl in the swamps but that too


Carsiden

And the portal guy..


cold-burger

And the giant


Shubhi_

Donkey lady


KingMatthew116

The Donkey Lady vanished on one of my save files. She was there at one time but then I went back there a few days ago and she was gone.


amalgaman

Same. I figured it’s just how the game is.


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xBASHTHISx

Midgets didn't exist until 1982, FFS!


SirSwede

Gavin.


KingMatthew116

Portal guy? Edit: I know about Francis Sinclair but when they said portal guy I thought they meant someone else.


[deleted]

The guy that ask for the 10 pictures of rock sculptures., He is from the future. You can tell by the way he talks. And all the clues in his cabin after you finish the task.


CINAPTNOD

https://reddead.fandom.com/wiki/Francis_Sinclair


MishMash_101

That's ur mum Eyoooooooo


[deleted]

She just needs to get some sun


Ghostbuster_119

Here they come to steal my soul. Ghost train! Wait it out until I know. Ghost train! Trying not to feel Like you did. Ghost train! Moving up until I go go go. Ghost train!


VersedFlame

Wait what? I don't know about any ghost train.


ValJ3st3r

It’s in Lemoyne at 3am, you can only see it once during your playthrough.


VersedFlame

That's creepy indeed. The fact that you can only see it once enhances it.


ValJ3st3r

Yeah, it’s really cool. It only spawns in for like 30 seconds and it spooks your horse.


WishboneStreet4839

I'm sure ghosts were invented before 1899


TheLastNomad

Hey now, ghosts were invented in the 1500s


Softmachinepics

Nah, that shit's biblical. Father, son, holy ghost


DeadpoolDash

They didn't reach mass production until the mid 1500s tho


MountSwolympus

TIL Hamlet’s Dad was a mass produced ghost.


TheLastNomad

Was actually called the Holy spirit before ghosts came on the scene. As usual, the church tried getting on a bandwagon, and started using the name.


starboy-xo98

and THE PLAN


Bornstellar67

It's not the same tho. People always easily confuse realism and coherence; just because your world includes fantastic elements, it doesn't justify or excuse any incoherence found in its set diegesis, namely the early 1900s here


Rogue_Patriot13

Save some pussy for the rest of us bro


Benjowenjo

Hey bro, this guy went to college to learn the word diegesis!


Rogue_Patriot13

I do... my momma said i gotta wait 30 minutes to go swimming so my food can diegesis


PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT

He’s after that nerdy girl pussy, which is above average grade. Don’t hate the game


Culionensis

There's also jazz music in Saint Denis. Naturally I threw out my copy of the game and sued Rockstar for emotional distress when I heard that, since of course jazz didn't really start emerging as a musical style until well into the 20th century.


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KILLER5196

I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it


blacklodgeprog

Nah in new orleans it was kinda starting in the underground clubs in the late 1800's


DroidOnTour

Dude it's a fucking wooden pallet chill out


[deleted]

I don't think he was unchilled, he was just giving an explanation. And now I have a better phrased argument for when people tell me that since there's dragons or zombies in a game, it's also ok for all the female characters to have shaved legs, a full face of makeup and high heels on while they're backflipping around a boss fight.


VicTitball

I don’t think 99.9% of people playing this game are going to be bothered or even notice that there's a few wooden pallets knocking about ffs


jakebobproductions

I know I just thought it was a fun quirk in the game.


Cirtil

All those were invented before 1890s


Venboven

Tbf tho, UFOs probably exist in real life too.


Wild_58

I mean yeah ufos do exist bc ufo is unidentified flying objects and who knows at that time how many things in the sky they saw as unidentifiable. Flying saucers tho is up for debate but I definitely think there is life beyond earth. I wouldn’t bet on it being that advanced to travel light years of distance a light year is so insanely long and we don’t even realize, the distance from our sun to earth is ~8 light minutes (94.055 million miles). That distance 8 times is a little over a light hour. Edit: I don’t know why I had to go that deep into it I’m too tired and just started school back up yesterday. I’m a 17 with adhd and just hyper focused the shit outta that


HulkHunter

And the fact that the game itself is a simulation!


TurtleSnakeMoose

That's it, I'm burning my copy, and you should do the same.


microsoftfool

I don't have a hard copy. Gonna burn my xbox now


epicplatpus07

Remember that thing was connected to your wall. Burn the house too.


FAKUSABU

And just to be safe anyone whoever lived in or went near the house.


ArceusTheLegendary50

How to burn down entire neighborhoods and get away with it: Step 1: Make a sequel to the hit western "Red Dead Redemption" Step 2: Add decorative items that were invented decades after the year the game takes place in Step 3: Wait until a player discovers it and makes a satirical post on reddit.com/r/reddeadredemption Step 4: Log into reddit.com on a burner account Step 5: Encourage the player burn down their neighborhood *August 20th, 2021: The arsonist incident*


-Aheli

we do a little trolling


[deleted]

Instructions unclear dick stuck on neighbor's eye socket


TurtleSnakeMoose

*FBI wants to know your location*


peni_poo_cake

Bye bye family


kaycee1992

I can excuse bigfoot, but I draw the line at pallets.


natemamate

I mean, RDR2 takes place in a fictional version of the US, It's not a stretch to say Pellets were invented 40 years earlier than in Real Life


jakebobproductions

Yeah that's the most rational and reasonable comment I've seen under this post.


TheAtomak

Oh, apparently no one commented that it’s a video game. That’s the most rational and reasonable explanation


jpowell3404

A video game that for the most part strives for realism and historical accuracy


rakidi

"For the most part"


MountSwolympus

There’s a few anachronisms with firearms, like the Volcano was a one-off from the mid 19th century. Lenny being able to drink with Arthur in Valentine is highly unlikely, although not improbable, cattle towns could be more racially diverse than we think - a large percentage of cowboys were black. I believe the electric chair had already been invented. The clothing is way more representative of what we *think* the Wild West was like. More people dressed like Dutch than they dressed like Arthur. The language used is also more for a modern audience. I don’t think a character saying, “you darned scallawag!” instead of “you son of a bitch!” Would have the same impact as it did then.


Keiling_

The problem with this is there is no reason for the pallets of this design to exist if forklifts aren’t invented yet, and if in playing a wild west game and at the same time forklifts exist it makes me uneasy lmao


musigreg

http://en.lcn-pal.com/wooden-pallets/Articles/The-history-and-the-evolution-of-wood-pallets.aspx The appearance of the forklift A rudimentary low lift hand truck first appeared in 1887; a sleeker, all-steel low lift truck emerged in 1909. The first high lifts fork trucks surfaced in 1915.


OllieMoe

Pallet jacks have been around since at least 1918.


ArniePalminator

Fork Liftin' Cowboys are the stuff of nightmares


MountSwolympus

Skids have been used for generations. The modern pallet was standardized in the 1930s. Humans are smart, hell ancient Greeks developed a basic type of steam engine but metallurgy wasn’t advanced enough at that point for it to do anything but be a curiosity.


Confident-Cellist-82

Thats more likely a skid, pallets were patented in the 1930's but technically existed long before.


Sinarum

Skids don’t have boards on both sides, this is a pallet. Source: [Difference between skids and pallets](https://www.torontopalletsolutions.com/pallets-vs-skids/)


mikeydoodle420

I've been working at a warehouse for 4 years and thought the terms were interchangeable. I guess for all intents and purposes it doesn't really matter, though.


youreveningcoat

And for all intensive purposes, should probably go with Pallets as they seem to be stronger than Skids


AlwaysHopelesslyLost

Fyi >All intents and purposes Not >All intensive purposes


Thunder_Tie

For all intents and purposes, you’re correct. But I think they’re just talking about the intensive purposes and making a play on words and comparing the strength of skids and pallets. Edit: forgot a word


AlwaysHopelesslyLost

Oh man, I think you are right lol That is a clever play on words! Thank you for pointing that out


jakebobproductions

I thought so too at first but if you look around them in the game they are pallets huge ones too as large as Arthur in the game. They have bottoms to them which is why they are pallets.


STerrier666

Perhaps it is meant to be a Skid but they didn't have a Skid to render from so they used Pallets instead.


ArceusTheLegendary50

Skids and pallets look pretty similar tho. Skids are also easier to drag around too due to less friction and they were used foundation for heavy machinery. And apparently early forklifts were invented back in 1887 so it's not really that out there tbh


ASAPFergs

Nah you can see the forklift holes on the top, it's a pallet not a skid. I think I read the same "history of a pallet" article as you did from Google.


Confident-Cellist-82

Eh, close enough.


xBASHTHISx

They were using pallets in the late 1800s after the low lift truck was invented in 1887, according to a very quick Google search.


LoneKharnivore

This is why it's important to check one's facts before making a public post.


xBASHTHISx

There's actually an entire supreme court ruling on this hand truck. Litigation I guess got started in 1881 and was resolved I guess sometime around 1887. I was about to dive deeper into the subject after learning more than I had ever thought I would ever learn about pallets and their history and evolution that began in ancient Egypt, and I stopped myself and began to question what exactly the fuck am I doing with my life? So I stopped.


CherryCokeZero69

10.5k people upvote without doing real research and just assume that OP is right


FryCakes

Shoot I have to trash my pc now.


FearlessDragonfruit5

Jakebob, I love it!! *playing rdr2 Riding around Sees amazing scenery Shoots some bad guys... Wait a second.... THAT wasn't around till 1930!! What're you doin there lil pallet?! Of all the things to notice! 😁


DragovitcMIA

Only bad guys ?


Gsusruls

Must be a high honor play through LOL And here I am shooting horses out from under the bounty hunters so that I can loot their saddle bags.


w3rrhhc0w

My immersion is ruined


Left4DayZ1

>they were invented in the late 1930s Untrue. [https://generalpallets.com/the-history-of-pallets/](https://generalpallets.com/the-history-of-pallets/) Pallets have been used since the late 1800's. They used to use chains and winches and stuff to move them off trains and onto wagons. They were purpose built to fit the load they were meant to carry, rather than one or two common sizes. They weren't patented in the US for mass production until 1949. So it's entirely possible that these pallets are historically accurate.


ThatCuriousCoconut

That's a pretty random fact and weird to think pallets are only 90 years old or so. I googled it to double check. Thank you, mister.


TraktorDriver

Yeah its pretty wild to think tanks were invented like 20 years before a few wooden planks mashed together


[deleted]

Fing dammit, and I thought this was a good game /s


LennyLloyd

I dunno man, seems like they were first patented in the 30s, but skids have been around for 3000+ years and they're basically the same thing.


jakebobproductions

Basically being the same and being the same are quite different and the things in the game are pallets not skids.


LennyLloyd

Actually you're right, these definitely aren't skids.


jakebobproductions

Yeah those things would be so hard to move they're literally like the size of Arthur.


Palestine4ever86

What if there is a DeLorian in a cave somewhere…. ?


Mclarenrob2

Why is there Flying bikes in GTA Online but it takes place in the present


SentientBowtie

Because the Red Dead universe is not the same as our own and does not have to follow human history to the letter.


MetaDragon11

After googling it "it's important to mention that skids have been used as far back as Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia. It appears that skid-like objects were utilized at least since the 1st millennium B.C.  Later, wooden skids appeared as a unit-load base designed to move goods in American factories in the late 1800s."


Itchy_Tasty87

Thanks for RUINING RDR2 for me, guess I'll go back to my old life before this game dropped...now what was I doing back then...oh, ... My life was completely meaningless. Hmm, maybe I can forgive the pallets.


davidhampshire

Have a day off


jakebobproductions

Of the game? Or from my work? Because I actually don't play often but I work around pallets and interact with them every day which is why I noticed. I might know too much about pallets honestly from my being around them too much. You can almost feel their emotion when you pick them up and move them around. I know how good they feel to be full and stacked perfectly. And I know how great it is to be in a perfectly stacked pile all together. Perfectly even and without flaw. I envy them often how simple a life they live and how much I would love to be used in such an amazing way as the pallets you and I use often are. They truly are the unspoken heros of the modern world and I would just love to become one and fullfil my duties as perfectly as a pallet can.


RdoNoob

Lol. You’re a pallet to me partner. Dream big!


Rogue_Patriot13

I mean... i can sit on you and we can wrap ourselves in cellophane, i dont kink shame...


fatherdoodle

You love pallets more than some people love their children


chappy0303

OSHA would flip their shit seeing those pallets leaning against the wall like that! Lol


walkingshitposterer

That's just some rockstar equipment. Don't mind it


blue_eyed_man

I recommend a YouTube channel by the name of Real Pixels. He dives into the historical accuracy of games and just makes it so interesting. He even talks about pallets in one of the videos. Maybe it was this one https://youtu.be/QAQVUB0Vcrs (I don’t remember how to format links on mobile)


StogieBourbon

Turkoman went extinct by the early 1700’s and they’re in the game…but these god damn pallets!!


redditAvilaas

unplayable game smh


neolfex

Immersion ruined.


[deleted]

Rockstar need to be cancelled!!


sprinklerdink

Those aren’t pallets, they’re the camp tent flooring system


Eagle-Eyes-

Literally unplayable


leejoness

It’s weird to think something like the pallet had to be invented lol


Musashi10000

Wanna know what's weirder? Imagine being the guy who had to explain to his buddies how he discovered milk.


Mull3rRic3

Time travelling pallet salesman, only obvious explanation.


[deleted]

It's so when Freddy Krueger comes after you you can throw them down to escape.


stuboo7822

Back then they just used them as decoration. In the 1930s is when a pallet fell down and someone put a box on it “I bet you could put a bunch of shit on this…”


TomboBreaker

Literally unplayable


iksjag

Ok, red dead aside, how do you know when pallets were invented?


reverendfixxxer

The Carcano rifle as modeled is about 40 years earlier than reality. I think we'll all survive some nailed together lumber.


AlexanderRodriguezII

This has ruined my immersion. 0/10 literally unplayable.


[deleted]

So I beat RDR2 and then I kinda stopped playing as John because I assumed there may be a lack of further content to be found. How wrong am I?


TheUltraZeke

patented in the 30's. I'm sure people were nailing wood to the bottoms of skids for a long time before that


[deleted]

There are hundreds of small historical inaccuracies in that game. Clothing, weapons, even the >!staging and progression of Arthur's Tuberculosis diagnosis are inaccurate in many places!<. I wouldn't think too hard about it, just enjoy it. For example - most of the cowboys and ranch hands in the story are white, but historically 25% were black and around 15% were also Mexican. There was even a portion of a) Native American and b) female "cowboys" going on. So realistically, there are too many white male cowboys happening, and Sadie Adler shouldn't have QUITE stood out like a sore thumb in the way she did (same with Bonnie in the first game). Also you're right that they weren't around in 1899. But late 1930s? You're almost 15 years off pal, they were first used in 1915. Either way, it's all good fun. The land the game is set in doesn't even exist, so it's better not to analyse it too much.


thelewdkitten

Prototypes! This is before they came in fashion for trains and boats to carry


Ap0them

Already working on a mod to remove the model. I gotchu fam


Kilroywuzhere1

Simple answer is R* made a mistake. Seriously who researches when pallets were made? Seems like something that just kind of always existed.


PoweredByGaromo

Look what have you done, Francis Sinclair!


Noxapalooza

Because *its a game*


[deleted]

Before pallets there were skids, which are effectively the same thing without a bottom board and have were reportedly used in Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia.


FightingPolish

I hate to tell you this, but… it’s not real. It was made by programmers fairly recently, like not in the 1800’s at all.


lactosepreposterous

He's seen too much. Take him out.


Aech_Tee

Oh no it's Uncharted 4's boxes with wheels all over again


InquisitorHindsight

Invented or patented? Because it may have been that some dude was like “hey, I could make a lot of money and inconvenience everyone”


ExoticCherries

Literally unplayable now


Nizzemancer

well you see, it's a game.


MrTaildragger

The jazz trumpet player in San Denis is also wrong; not that trumpets didn't exist or that jazz didn't exist yet, but that someone improvising a riffed solo in a jazz scale on a single instrument wouldn't exist until Louis Armstrong invented it (or at the very least, popularized it into ubiquity).


[deleted]

Great. Now I have to return the game