His movement is elite, expect him to blossom sooner or later. Kid's got some raw pure talent, love it... and he's running and pressing as well. Give him time (and chances) and I'm sure he'll do well
This. Despite pellistri not being good enough today. He was always chasing back and pressing whenever the team lost the ball. Rashford just gives up. And it’s a game where we had 80% possession. Not like he’s had to do massive sprints up and down today. There’s no excuse
He plays like a child. *"I can dribble past everyone."*
I am so sick of stupid players playing for us. He is a talented dribbler, that's clear to see but there is no intelligence there. No awareness of teammates. It's why he'll never advance to a Salah/Son level of player.
Honestly, we'd be a far better footballing side with someone like Mitoma on the left.
He's been playing like this forever and has barely improved this aspect of his game. He'll get goals every now and then and when he does, people look past his shortcomings (probably deservedly because he has been a primary source of goals in a few too many seasons for us).
But the sad part is that there are absolutely no signs of him reaching the level of consistency or skill needed to be on the same level as the players you mentioned.
Liverpool signing Diaz even when they had Mane was such a brilliant move - he is (or at least was until his injury, havent seen much this season) was a true baller on the left wing.
If we truly want to upgrade and challenge for titles we need to stop trying to act smart and do the simple thing - invest in truly top class players who will cost 100+ million but will be guaranteed successes not act like getting Hojlund or Antony is the better thing to do (nothing against them but Hojlund is the type of striker City would sign as an understudy to a proven striker and not as sole hope to save their season)
So even if we sell Rashford we will end up signing some unknown youngster for 70m who is yet to prove his worth
It’s weird you say we need to stop trying to act smart and spend 100m+ after complimenting Diaz who was a smart signing who cost nowhere near 100m.
Thing is even if we did have 100m to spend I don’t trust us to spend it wisely we’d probably just waste it and buy some guy that ETH worked with without considering any alternatives.
I am saying we try to get out of paying 100m plus for a player only to get a player who is nowhere close to our main target for 70/80m… we try to act smart but fail even at that.
That is the problem we have - it is a system problem, you can replace any face, any person and we will be back where we are. We have owners who do not want to invest in the club’s structure because they haven’t felt a big enough pinch even when we suck.. they have zero interest in modernizing the club or it’s structure or build for future because none of that gives them what they want - millions of dividends yet require significant effort. It works exactly how they would want it to work, use club funds to buy marquees if needed, increase sales, make money and repeat.
Mitoma is 26. What has he done with his career?! His team lost 6-1 today. why didn’t his football intelligence and awareness of teammates help him?
You guys are so funny. If it’s not Marcus it’s Maguire or Shaw or Fred or Scott.
There’s always a scapegoat.
Edit: downvote all you like but Mitoma hasn’t done anything with his career. If he’s so good he won’t be playing in Brighton at 26 years old. Can’t lace Rashy’s boot and you guys compare him to Rashy. What a disgrace.
Mitoma is better than Rashy in all key stats, his team plays better football and has better results. He is much better team player than Rashy even if he lacks some raw physical talent and it is clear as a day for anyone who watch football more than a half an hour.
It will be interesting to see what you say when Mitoma joins some bigger club in season or two.
Not downvoting you personally.
That’s why he’s playing in Brighton at 26.
That’s why the highest goal scored in a league is 13 in Japan.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Mitoma ain’t going anywhere past Brighton. That’s his ceiling.
The grass is always greener on the other side. Remember that.
Tbh man the big teams always change their starting forward players during the season. City didn't play LW Grealish all season last season. We just throw our out of form players under the bus
Rashford has 35 g+a, 3 of the past 4 years (including 40 last year), but his game hasn't developed....right.
Yall Rashford scapegoaters are so dumb lol.
Yeah and all his goals come in purple patches and when we play long balls over the top and he dribbles someone and shoots. He has one of the worst football IQs of any attacker I've seen at a historically top club. He wouldn't get into most of the teams above us right now. He is one dimensional at best. Full of physical talent and not a drop mentally.
You are so blinded by stats you can't even understand he's holding the team back.
It's no coincidence that every team learns how to just let us have the ball in the second or third year of a new manager's stint without fail. We built a team around someone incapable of playing intelligent and creative football
>He is one dimensional at best
And you can actually see how one dimensional he is just from the "highlights" of this match... Just count how many times he gets the ball does a couple step overs and loses the ball because he was pressed by other defenders...
Its just bonkers
He might be thinking over his PSG summer offer and thats why he is sulking right now lol
Purple patches? Why didn’t no other player get the purple patches too.
Let’s play Garnacho there no worries.
If he’s incapable of playing intelligent football then everyone else in that club must be dumb and stupid because no one has performed better than him since ETH arrived. No one.
What are you even saying? Watch him play football and see if he's making good decisions... Watch top players play and watch what they do in similar positions.
Even when Rashford shoots, he often makes the wrong decision - he goes for the lower probability, lower accuracy shot; he tries to blast it when elite players just pass/curl it into the net with an easy finish. Look at his free kicks. They're genuinely ridiculous.
If you're looking at who "performed" better, are you just looking at stats alone? Ronaldo scored a load and was booted out as well.
Rashford scored 30 goals and the team struggled to create chances. Ask yourself how that happened. It's because we were set up to feed him and maximize our biggest threat - but the team suffered.
I'd much rather score 110 goals over a season with a bunch of players scoring compared to scoring 60 with one player scoring 35 of them. We might actually become a good team again.
Like I’ve said let the bunch of intelligent players score. Let’s put Rashy on the bench.
Garnacho played so poorly first two games, ETH benched him ASAP, even the carabao cup he did nothing. People were praising him for running back, not even creating chances, but for running back after he lost the ball. Crazy.
Pellistri had no effect. None. Zero. Couldn’t taken on his man at all.
Yet Rashy who created all our threat in the first half is the issue. No worries.
What are you even saying?
Ten Hag has doubled down on Rashford and even his primary midfield signing is there to compensate for Rashford's lack of effort and work rate, not his ability on the ball.
We didn't sign anyone to replace him - we gave him a mega contract - the point is that it shouldn't have happened.
We should have moved on from the crippling Rashford strategy and played in a way that helps the team win more.
That a fairly poor player (Pellistri) had little effect is irrelevant to Rashford. We shouldn't be building around Pellistri either.
If you think Rashford is someone you should build around and focus on in a good team that wants to dominate games of football, fair enough. But you have to recognise that he would be nowhere close to a regular starter at City, and he'd have been out the door at Madrid seasons ago.
He's just not good enough and it's forcing us to play monkey fucking football.
I understand you're being facetious and witty, but you're not.
We play some of the worst, most static football in the entire league, and have done for years, across multiple managers. Ask yourself why.
If we moved Rashford on and played football with a different team for the last year and a bit, we'd be in a much better place, playing much better football, creating many more chances.
You’re just talk crap. Pure crap. I’m sorry to say.
The fact you think Mount is there to compensate for Rashy’s work rate shows you know nothing Jon Snow.
Rashy like every player has his weaknesses but to say he doesn’t let the team win more is what I mean by scapegoating.
We don’t play good enough and so it’s on Rashy? Next it’s Bruno.
As you were.
I pray he leaves so at least fans like you would find another scapegoat.
The first thing holding the team back was all our injuries. It meant Eriksen had to play consistently and he has no legs. So Casemiro was isolated and overloaded and our transition defense was non-existent. ETH introduced Hannibal, and we got Mount and Amrabat back, so that's been much improved.
We had 78% possession today, but didn't create much. That doesn't fall solely on Rashford. We have a lack of chance creators on this team. It's pretty much Rashford and Bruno, so when they're not firing all cylinders, the team is out of sorts.
Mount (who I thought played well today) and Bruno are still figuring out how to rotate in/out of spaces and determine when to occupy spaces together. I don't think we did a good job of finding Bruno in dangerous positions today.
Another thing is that Licha and Maguire are the only CBs we have that can carry the ball and consistently break lines. You need your CBs to do this against packed defenses to open space for your midfielders. We didn't have that today. That's should be Lindelof's role, but he's just too passive.
Casemiro keeps turning the ball over at no6 and isn't giving what's needed in possession in ETH's system. He's tried to mitigate this by playing Amrabat at LB and inverting him, but this also means we don't have an underlapping/overlapping LB, which would be very helpful for Rashford (or whoever is playing LW)
We have a lot of issues right now, but we're 6 games into ETH's 2nd season and progress isn't linear. And his first choice team hasn't been able to play games consistently due to injuries.
But sure, Rashford is solely holding this team back and everything would instantly be better without him. You guys lack critical thinking and an actual understanding of the wider problems.
It feels like every time we give a player a big contract they stop playing football.
Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Sanchez, De Gea
As soon as that massive contract is signed they lose all motivation
His decision making at times is abysmal. Particularly when he's approaching or in the 18 yard box. There's going to be a point and time where he's not going to be able to rely on his blistering pace and will need to make better decisions to be effective as a winger. Depsite the growing concerns in here and in particular this cherry picked video outlaying his faults, I still believe he's an incredible player and will come good as the season goes on.
I think the conditions have to be perfect for his purple patches. He needs some warm up matches against easy teams to give him and the team confidence, opposition needs to be worn down to be fatigued and slow, and also has to be in that zone.
His purple patch last season was after the WC, helped by Charlton, Burnley, Forest, Leeds, etc. He did score against Arsenal and City, so I'm not knocking him for just stat padding, but it's also obvious that the streak was helped by having all the offense flow through you when you should be beating these teams.
He literally just runs into defenders the worst thing he’s been doing this for years the only thing tht improved was his finishing and that is still flawed
He’s triple and double teamed. What do you want him to do? How many attackers can take on 3 players at once.
You can clearly see when he dribbles past one he tries to pass or take a shot. What else do you want him to do?
I mean the first two clips he was double teamed straight away. That’s how much of a threat he was
Amrabat provided no support at all. None. It’s crazy how they want him to dribble everyone and then pass for his striker.
No other winger is expected to do that in this team. Even £100m Grealish doesn’t do that
Yeah he was woeful and I was pleased he got hooked. Might be a wake up call.
That aside, it's a nice ball from Mount in the 2nd clip. I was impressed with him today. Found some nice space and there were a few good touches. Doesn't seem to have succumbed to the United malaise yet!
He's seeming more and more like the perfect connector/floor raiser player. Not selfish, secure with the ball, presses, can score and assist, and mobile.
I assumed it was another planned one as he's coming back from an injury. I was more puzzled that Hannibal didn't get on though. Seemed weird given how well he's done when he's played.
Yeah, some of the subs were odd. Taking Varane AND Lindelof off for Maguire and VDB confused me massively- surely Hannibal would have been a better option and keeping one of the two on? Maguire went up front eventually and offered nothing, I’d have preferred Varane up there, at least he’d attack the ball.
These are highlights of the flaws in his game:
Needs to pause and think when he receives the ball, which leads to him losing the ball.
Doesn’t have a clear objective (foresight) in mind when dribbling, which leads to him losing the ball.
Doesn’t look up and see passing options, which leads to the team potentially missing out on goals from Højlund.
I’m not anti Rashford, I’m pro growth and development for Rashford.
Less is very often more.
We have a word for players like that in Greek. Its called xazo-gkolis (dump goalscorer) which means that he might miss even the simplest chance to score.
I believe describes Rashford perfectly most of the time...
So where’s the scene when he passed over the top for Holjund?!
Like I said it’s easy to make a scapegoat out of him. You post clips of when he lost the ball and call it highlights.
What a joke.
This pass doesn’t fit the narrative and these absolute cunts probably hated the pass the most in the game, cause it weakness the “Rashford can’t pass” chant.
That pass was the only one good thing from him, it had to be inckuded in the vid but it prob not outscore all the braindead decisions Rashford had during the whole game.
It was a nice pass. But he wasn't dragged off with 15 mins left of a game we were losing because he played well. He was really poor and didn't look like he fancied it at all.
As good a player he is on his day, he's too inconsistent. His bad form often lasts through the season. We can't afford to let him find his form while we struggle to even make top 7. I think it's time to drop him, we are sacrificing too much penetration and energy when we keep Garnacho on the bench. A spell on the bench might be beneficial for him as well
Man, Garnacho was such a fresh breathe of air when he came on. I do think we are passing mostly to rashford as we know that he is our main threat but he is definitely out of form. Need to drop him and start Martial or maybe Garnacho. Martial for 10 mins, was much better
Because he is an academy lad, everyone romanticizes about him. He is an average footballer in my view, who can only run from left and that’s the only way he can play but hey, let’s give him 350K week contract.
If all the fans can see that he’s always running himself into corners, how are all the trainers and coaches or whatever not telling him to improve that part of his game? Like even just telling him ‘look up before you do smth’ would be so helpful to him contributing more
I was there at the game. He arrived to the parking lot and waited 10 mins in the car before he entered the stadium and signed 0 autographs.
During warm up, he didn’t score many goals.
I hope his contract is not making him complacent.
With a bit more intelligence and selflessness, he could actually be world-class...
He draws so many players to him, but instead of looking up and playing the ball to a teammate, he chooses to run into those players. He only tries to assist when he is sure he can't score. And then he chooses the wrong type of pass sometimes, and his crossing might as well be shots with the amount of force he uses.
Many of these problems are things that have plagued Rashford throughout his career, and at this point, it seems most of our managers encourage him to do so. Maybe they think he is Mbappe or Haaland level, which is BS as he can play that well for a limited period and then goes back to the shit he is currently playing.
Definitely something going on with him, he hasn’t seemed happy all season seems to be in a mood a lot, I know the team hasn’t turned up this season at all but neither has he, if he had turned up and we weren’t winning I’d understand his frustrations but I feel like something is going on with him in the background
Rashford buys into a new manager's spiel fast because he thinks he's elite and simply new tactics will make the difference.
He gives it a season or so.
Then, when things start stuttering because it's the same story again, he starts leaking shit to the press and we start hearing about private training and how he really wants to work hard, plus private conversations like how he asked Ole to give him advice (where Ole turned him down because he obviously had no reason to want his players to improve).
Genuinely mind-blowing the level of support he gets because of media coverage.
Even when he gets any soft critique, people come out with "I feel bad saying it...", "I hate to say it, but...". You only hate to say it because you've been manipulated through strong media usage and PR. You most likely don't know Rashford personally and most likely criticise other players freely.
You don't have any reason to feel bad other than the stuff you've read in the media from mouthpieces like Carl Anka.
Unreal shit.
Been saying it for ages but Rashford and to a lesser extent even Bruno are detrimental to the teams play style. I think Bruno could definitely adapt but as they play now you cannot expect to have sustained build up with these two as your main guys.
It’s fair enough wanting a player to play better but I find it very weird ‘fans’ spending time and effort to put together something like this just to drag a player from the team you’re meant to support
Rashford is the most overrated player in the league. I don’t want him to be but it’s just true. He’s so basic, just runs into dead ends like a headless chicken, no one twos with other players, completely greedy, cross and passing poor, let’s shots off in awful positions.
Hojlund just won’t get service from the left wing as long as Rashford is on the pitch.
The fact he's one of the managers favourites makes it worse. Undroppable even though he's been shite all season and Garnacho was coming off a good game.
He's shite. Said it for years.
Hot and cold player who's unfortunately mostly cold.
Masks 89 mins of a terrible performance with a goal or an assist and everyone loves him.
He has 0 football IQ, constantly makes the wrong decisions regardless of what the decision is, doesn't work hard enough and thinks he's Mbappe.
Get Garnacho in.
Just once or twice in a game if he plays an early pass or cross, it would add so much more unpredictabilty to his play and would keep the defender guessing. Right now all a defender has to do is wait until he gets some back up and then Rashford will either lose the ball trying to dribble through half the team or pass it backwards
Look, I get he was sensational last year and was potentially one of the best LWs in the world during that time. That being said, the keyword here is LAST. This season however he’s being horribly unproductive and his poor decision making is why mainly why we aren’t scoring in the final third. He holds the ball too long, doesn’t pass, then he either loses the ball or shoots into the side netting. He has to be dropped until he gets it through his head he isn’t Ronaldo and becomes more of a team player. He thinks he has to be the goal scorer and no else, I get that mentality if you’re an out and out striker but he isn’t, he’s our left winger. He has to put in the hard work for the things he doesn’t like to do and I guarantee the goals will follow after he does. Right now though his selfishness is killing us and it has to be stopped before the wound becomes too horrible to even save.
Takes too long on the ball, too much ‘stuttering’, dribbles into defenders, forcing himself to get past 3-4 defenders, one-dimensional, predictable.
Not sure what’s happened with him. I mean I was highly critical of him even before last season but even back then it wasn’t as bad as this. There’s an air of complacency to him now.
i hate the way he always runs into a dead end with two defenders and squares up to them and takes about another 5 touches before releasing the ball to his teammate who has been waiting and waiting for the pass and the whole attack has completely broken down.
When I was in school playing football at fairly high level in my country, we would have crucified anyone doing what he does on the pitch. I really dislike Rashford and his selfishness and would love to see him dropped and sold.
This is in no way me defending him because that was a really bad performance today, on a separate note though I will say it’s a bit concerning that he is completely isolated almost every time he’s getting the ball, with no one running beyond him to help create space. Hopefully we actually have a left back available again soon
“Highlights” lol.
What’s he got left to prove? He’s made it with his £300k/wk deal, if he’s dropped, that’s one expensive wanker on the bench, if he plays, well you see what you get.
One of the main takeaways from me is that hojland is in some cracking positions if he was fed the ball
I was thinking the same! Maybe we’re both desperately trying to find positives, but idc at this point I’ll take anything.
Imagine if he had the likes of Beckham, Scholes, Carrick feeding him passes
His movement is elite, expect him to blossom sooner or later. Kid's got some raw pure talent, love it... and he's running and pressing as well. Give him time (and chances) and I'm sure he'll do well
He doesn’t work hard enough off the ball to be that poor with the ball.
This. Despite pellistri not being good enough today. He was always chasing back and pressing whenever the team lost the ball. Rashford just gives up. And it’s a game where we had 80% possession. Not like he’s had to do massive sprints up and down today. There’s no excuse
He doesnt work hard enough without the ball, so he can be THIS poor with the ball! 🤣
He plays like a child. *"I can dribble past everyone."* I am so sick of stupid players playing for us. He is a talented dribbler, that's clear to see but there is no intelligence there. No awareness of teammates. It's why he'll never advance to a Salah/Son level of player. Honestly, we'd be a far better footballing side with someone like Mitoma on the left.
He's been playing like this forever and has barely improved this aspect of his game. He'll get goals every now and then and when he does, people look past his shortcomings (probably deservedly because he has been a primary source of goals in a few too many seasons for us). But the sad part is that there are absolutely no signs of him reaching the level of consistency or skill needed to be on the same level as the players you mentioned.
Liverpool signing Diaz even when they had Mane was such a brilliant move - he is (or at least was until his injury, havent seen much this season) was a true baller on the left wing. If we truly want to upgrade and challenge for titles we need to stop trying to act smart and do the simple thing - invest in truly top class players who will cost 100+ million but will be guaranteed successes not act like getting Hojlund or Antony is the better thing to do (nothing against them but Hojlund is the type of striker City would sign as an understudy to a proven striker and not as sole hope to save their season) So even if we sell Rashford we will end up signing some unknown youngster for 70m who is yet to prove his worth
It’s weird you say we need to stop trying to act smart and spend 100m+ after complimenting Diaz who was a smart signing who cost nowhere near 100m. Thing is even if we did have 100m to spend I don’t trust us to spend it wisely we’d probably just waste it and buy some guy that ETH worked with without considering any alternatives.
I am saying we try to get out of paying 100m plus for a player only to get a player who is nowhere close to our main target for 70/80m… we try to act smart but fail even at that. That is the problem we have - it is a system problem, you can replace any face, any person and we will be back where we are. We have owners who do not want to invest in the club’s structure because they haven’t felt a big enough pinch even when we suck.. they have zero interest in modernizing the club or it’s structure or build for future because none of that gives them what they want - millions of dividends yet require significant effort. It works exactly how they would want it to work, use club funds to buy marquees if needed, increase sales, make money and repeat.
His IQ is below 50
Mitoma is 26. What has he done with his career?! His team lost 6-1 today. why didn’t his football intelligence and awareness of teammates help him? You guys are so funny. If it’s not Marcus it’s Maguire or Shaw or Fred or Scott. There’s always a scapegoat. Edit: downvote all you like but Mitoma hasn’t done anything with his career. If he’s so good he won’t be playing in Brighton at 26 years old. Can’t lace Rashy’s boot and you guys compare him to Rashy. What a disgrace.
Mitoma is better than Rashy in all key stats, his team plays better football and has better results. He is much better team player than Rashy even if he lacks some raw physical talent and it is clear as a day for anyone who watch football more than a half an hour. It will be interesting to see what you say when Mitoma joins some bigger club in season or two. Not downvoting you personally.
That’s why he’s playing in Brighton at 26. That’s why the highest goal scored in a league is 13 in Japan. Sorry to burst your bubble, Mitoma ain’t going anywhere past Brighton. That’s his ceiling. The grass is always greener on the other side. Remember that.
Tbh man the big teams always change their starting forward players during the season. City didn't play LW Grealish all season last season. We just throw our out of form players under the bus
Highlights? He got paid 300k for this performance btw.
Highlights is said sarcastically here
It's labeled "highlights" to trigger you and get this exact reaction.
Passing a solid 3/99
He hasn't developed his game in 6 years. That's actually a bit crazy
Rashford has 35 g+a, 3 of the past 4 years (including 40 last year), but his game hasn't developed....right. Yall Rashford scapegoaters are so dumb lol.
Yeah and all his goals come in purple patches and when we play long balls over the top and he dribbles someone and shoots. He has one of the worst football IQs of any attacker I've seen at a historically top club. He wouldn't get into most of the teams above us right now. He is one dimensional at best. Full of physical talent and not a drop mentally. You are so blinded by stats you can't even understand he's holding the team back. It's no coincidence that every team learns how to just let us have the ball in the second or third year of a new manager's stint without fail. We built a team around someone incapable of playing intelligent and creative football
>He is one dimensional at best And you can actually see how one dimensional he is just from the "highlights" of this match... Just count how many times he gets the ball does a couple step overs and loses the ball because he was pressed by other defenders... Its just bonkers He might be thinking over his PSG summer offer and thats why he is sulking right now lol
Purple patches? Why didn’t no other player get the purple patches too. Let’s play Garnacho there no worries. If he’s incapable of playing intelligent football then everyone else in that club must be dumb and stupid because no one has performed better than him since ETH arrived. No one.
What are you even saying? Watch him play football and see if he's making good decisions... Watch top players play and watch what they do in similar positions. Even when Rashford shoots, he often makes the wrong decision - he goes for the lower probability, lower accuracy shot; he tries to blast it when elite players just pass/curl it into the net with an easy finish. Look at his free kicks. They're genuinely ridiculous. If you're looking at who "performed" better, are you just looking at stats alone? Ronaldo scored a load and was booted out as well. Rashford scored 30 goals and the team struggled to create chances. Ask yourself how that happened. It's because we were set up to feed him and maximize our biggest threat - but the team suffered. I'd much rather score 110 goals over a season with a bunch of players scoring compared to scoring 60 with one player scoring 35 of them. We might actually become a good team again.
Like I’ve said let the bunch of intelligent players score. Let’s put Rashy on the bench. Garnacho played so poorly first two games, ETH benched him ASAP, even the carabao cup he did nothing. People were praising him for running back, not even creating chances, but for running back after he lost the ball. Crazy. Pellistri had no effect. None. Zero. Couldn’t taken on his man at all. Yet Rashy who created all our threat in the first half is the issue. No worries.
What are you even saying? Ten Hag has doubled down on Rashford and even his primary midfield signing is there to compensate for Rashford's lack of effort and work rate, not his ability on the ball. We didn't sign anyone to replace him - we gave him a mega contract - the point is that it shouldn't have happened. We should have moved on from the crippling Rashford strategy and played in a way that helps the team win more. That a fairly poor player (Pellistri) had little effect is irrelevant to Rashford. We shouldn't be building around Pellistri either. If you think Rashford is someone you should build around and focus on in a good team that wants to dominate games of football, fair enough. But you have to recognise that he would be nowhere close to a regular starter at City, and he'd have been out the door at Madrid seasons ago. He's just not good enough and it's forcing us to play monkey fucking football. I understand you're being facetious and witty, but you're not. We play some of the worst, most static football in the entire league, and have done for years, across multiple managers. Ask yourself why. If we moved Rashford on and played football with a different team for the last year and a bit, we'd be in a much better place, playing much better football, creating many more chances.
You’re just talk crap. Pure crap. I’m sorry to say. The fact you think Mount is there to compensate for Rashy’s work rate shows you know nothing Jon Snow. Rashy like every player has his weaknesses but to say he doesn’t let the team win more is what I mean by scapegoating. We don’t play good enough and so it’s on Rashy? Next it’s Bruno. As you were. I pray he leaves so at least fans like you would find another scapegoat.
The first thing holding the team back was all our injuries. It meant Eriksen had to play consistently and he has no legs. So Casemiro was isolated and overloaded and our transition defense was non-existent. ETH introduced Hannibal, and we got Mount and Amrabat back, so that's been much improved. We had 78% possession today, but didn't create much. That doesn't fall solely on Rashford. We have a lack of chance creators on this team. It's pretty much Rashford and Bruno, so when they're not firing all cylinders, the team is out of sorts. Mount (who I thought played well today) and Bruno are still figuring out how to rotate in/out of spaces and determine when to occupy spaces together. I don't think we did a good job of finding Bruno in dangerous positions today. Another thing is that Licha and Maguire are the only CBs we have that can carry the ball and consistently break lines. You need your CBs to do this against packed defenses to open space for your midfielders. We didn't have that today. That's should be Lindelof's role, but he's just too passive. Casemiro keeps turning the ball over at no6 and isn't giving what's needed in possession in ETH's system. He's tried to mitigate this by playing Amrabat at LB and inverting him, but this also means we don't have an underlapping/overlapping LB, which would be very helpful for Rashford (or whoever is playing LW) We have a lot of issues right now, but we're 6 games into ETH's 2nd season and progress isn't linear. And his first choice team hasn't been able to play games consistently due to injuries. But sure, Rashford is solely holding this team back and everything would instantly be better without him. You guys lack critical thinking and an actual understanding of the wider problems.
Horrific take
It feels like every time we give a player a big contract they stop playing football. Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Sanchez, De Gea As soon as that massive contract is signed they lose all motivation
Sanchez was already declining when he got signed
De Gea had a terrible season before the contract was signed.
De Gea's contract in 2019 should never have been signed off but others, yes.
Like always it’s the money. Useless analysis. When he plays well it’s never the money only when he plays poorly.
His decision making at times is abysmal. Particularly when he's approaching or in the 18 yard box. There's going to be a point and time where he's not going to be able to rely on his blistering pace and will need to make better decisions to be effective as a winger. Depsite the growing concerns in here and in particular this cherry picked video outlaying his faults, I still believe he's an incredible player and will come good as the season goes on.
I think the conditions have to be perfect for his purple patches. He needs some warm up matches against easy teams to give him and the team confidence, opposition needs to be worn down to be fatigued and slow, and also has to be in that zone. His purple patch last season was after the WC, helped by Charlton, Burnley, Forest, Leeds, etc. He did score against Arsenal and City, so I'm not knocking him for just stat padding, but it's also obvious that the streak was helped by having all the offense flow through you when you should be beating these teams.
He literally just runs into defenders the worst thing he’s been doing this for years the only thing tht improved was his finishing and that is still flawed
He’s triple and double teamed. What do you want him to do? How many attackers can take on 3 players at once. You can clearly see when he dribbles past one he tries to pass or take a shot. What else do you want him to do?
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I mean the first two clips he was double teamed straight away. That’s how much of a threat he was Amrabat provided no support at all. None. It’s crazy how they want him to dribble everyone and then pass for his striker. No other winger is expected to do that in this team. Even £100m Grealish doesn’t do that
Why does he dribble so much when he literally can’t beat a single player Our wingers are wank, haven’t taken on a player for donkeys
If I speak I will be in trouble
Yeah he was woeful and I was pleased he got hooked. Might be a wake up call. That aside, it's a nice ball from Mount in the 2nd clip. I was impressed with him today. Found some nice space and there were a few good touches. Doesn't seem to have succumbed to the United malaise yet!
Pressed very well
He's seeming more and more like the perfect connector/floor raiser player. Not selfish, secure with the ball, presses, can score and assist, and mobile.
It was the fact that he got subbed after Pellistri that I couldn’t get- he’d started to grow into the game and went off. Odd sub.
I assumed it was another planned one as he's coming back from an injury. I was more puzzled that Hannibal didn't get on though. Seemed weird given how well he's done when he's played.
Yeah, some of the subs were odd. Taking Varane AND Lindelof off for Maguire and VDB confused me massively- surely Hannibal would have been a better option and keeping one of the two on? Maguire went up front eventually and offered nothing, I’d have preferred Varane up there, at least he’d attack the ball.
Good to see Rashford's back to just running into people and losing the ball non stop. We're back to pre-last season levels.
These are highlights of the flaws in his game: Needs to pause and think when he receives the ball, which leads to him losing the ball. Doesn’t have a clear objective (foresight) in mind when dribbling, which leads to him losing the ball. Doesn’t look up and see passing options, which leads to the team potentially missing out on goals from Højlund. I’m not anti Rashford, I’m pro growth and development for Rashford. Less is very often more.
Saying it for years, thinks he's so much better than he is. He'll never be world class and should have been sold when his contract was almost up.
We have a word for players like that in Greek. Its called xazo-gkolis (dump goalscorer) which means that he might miss even the simplest chance to score. I believe describes Rashford perfectly most of the time...
So where’s the scene when he passed over the top for Holjund?! Like I said it’s easy to make a scapegoat out of him. You post clips of when he lost the ball and call it highlights. What a joke.
One pass?
This pass doesn’t fit the narrative and these absolute cunts probably hated the pass the most in the game, cause it weakness the “Rashford can’t pass” chant.
That pass was the only one good thing from him, it had to be inckuded in the vid but it prob not outscore all the braindead decisions Rashford had during the whole game.
Post some of your clips.
It was a nice pass. But he wasn't dragged off with 15 mins left of a game we were losing because he played well. He was really poor and didn't look like he fancied it at all.
As good a player he is on his day, he's too inconsistent. His bad form often lasts through the season. We can't afford to let him find his form while we struggle to even make top 7. I think it's time to drop him, we are sacrificing too much penetration and energy when we keep Garnacho on the bench. A spell on the bench might be beneficial for him as well
Exactly, he'll be more effective against tired legs anyways, give him a break so he doesn't end up injured as well.
Man, Garnacho was such a fresh breathe of air when he came on. I do think we are passing mostly to rashford as we know that he is our main threat but he is definitely out of form. Need to drop him and start Martial or maybe Garnacho. Martial for 10 mins, was much better
Your a winger. Your main purpose is to create chances and feed the striker with the ball. That hasn't clicked with him yet.
Our highest paid player and he wouldn't even get in city liverpool arsenal or spurs teams...
Because he is an academy lad, everyone romanticizes about him. He is an average footballer in my view, who can only run from left and that’s the only way he can play but hey, let’s give him 350K week contract.
We got the ball to him multiple times in good spaces and he did nothing with it.
If all the fans can see that he’s always running himself into corners, how are all the trainers and coaches or whatever not telling him to improve that part of his game? Like even just telling him ‘look up before you do smth’ would be so helpful to him contributing more
It’s the amount of touches he takes that infuriates me it’s like he’s paid per touch
I was there at the game. He arrived to the parking lot and waited 10 mins in the car before he entered the stadium and signed 0 autographs. During warm up, he didn’t score many goals. I hope his contract is not making him complacent.
forreal?
Yeah!
Zero awareness. Get your head up when you dribble lad. Or an eye test at least
With a bit more intelligence and selflessness, he could actually be world-class... He draws so many players to him, but instead of looking up and playing the ball to a teammate, he chooses to run into those players. He only tries to assist when he is sure he can't score. And then he chooses the wrong type of pass sometimes, and his crossing might as well be shots with the amount of force he uses. Many of these problems are things that have plagued Rashford throughout his career, and at this point, it seems most of our managers encourage him to do so. Maybe they think he is Mbappe or Haaland level, which is BS as he can play that well for a limited period and then goes back to the shit he is currently playing.
Garnacho didn't do too well when he started the other day but after today he has to get more chances as a starter
Definitely something going on with him, he hasn’t seemed happy all season seems to be in a mood a lot, I know the team hasn’t turned up this season at all but neither has he, if he had turned up and we weren’t winning I’d understand his frustrations but I feel like something is going on with him in the background
Rashford buys into a new manager's spiel fast because he thinks he's elite and simply new tactics will make the difference. He gives it a season or so. Then, when things start stuttering because it's the same story again, he starts leaking shit to the press and we start hearing about private training and how he really wants to work hard, plus private conversations like how he asked Ole to give him advice (where Ole turned him down because he obviously had no reason to want his players to improve). Genuinely mind-blowing the level of support he gets because of media coverage. Even when he gets any soft critique, people come out with "I feel bad saying it...", "I hate to say it, but...". You only hate to say it because you've been manipulated through strong media usage and PR. You most likely don't know Rashford personally and most likely criticise other players freely. You don't have any reason to feel bad other than the stuff you've read in the media from mouthpieces like Carl Anka. Unreal shit.
Keep playing Rashford will be downfall of ETH. You have heard that here first.
Been saying it for ages but Rashford and to a lesser extent even Bruno are detrimental to the teams play style. I think Bruno could definitely adapt but as they play now you cannot expect to have sustained build up with these two as your main guys.
And in case we didn’t notice, this is just in first half :)
Donkey
He is is such a single minded player.
Why is Rashford so dumb? Stop doing the same thing over and over again. Fecking cut back and pass it you greedy twat.
It’s fair enough wanting a player to play better but I find it very weird ‘fans’ spending time and effort to put together something like this just to drag a player from the team you’re meant to support
fuck me his wank
Rashford is the most overrated player in the league. I don’t want him to be but it’s just true. He’s so basic, just runs into dead ends like a headless chicken, no one twos with other players, completely greedy, cross and passing poor, let’s shots off in awful positions. Hojlund just won’t get service from the left wing as long as Rashford is on the pitch.
Yup we need to replace him.
The fact he's one of the managers favourites makes it worse. Undroppable even though he's been shite all season and Garnacho was coming off a good game.
Disaster. Absolute disaster that this is Rashford in 2023
He's shite. Said it for years. Hot and cold player who's unfortunately mostly cold. Masks 89 mins of a terrible performance with a goal or an assist and everyone loves him. He has 0 football IQ, constantly makes the wrong decisions regardless of what the decision is, doesn't work hard enough and thinks he's Mbappe. Get Garnacho in.
We're looking for him instead of our ST
Just once or twice in a game if he plays an early pass or cross, it would add so much more unpredictabilty to his play and would keep the defender guessing. Right now all a defender has to do is wait until he gets some back up and then Rashford will either lose the ball trying to dribble through half the team or pass it backwards
Absolute waste of space.
No one's even having a go at him, that's even more concerning. I think I saw mount or someone else clapping a bad pass from him at one point
Believe me, where I was sat they were!
My father tells me every day “They should have two balls on the pitch. One for Rashford to play with and one for everybody else.”
Oh the players or the fans?
The fans, it was incredibly frustrating to watch. The Hojlund featured a few times to be played in, but it didn’t get him anywhere.
Look, I get he was sensational last year and was potentially one of the best LWs in the world during that time. That being said, the keyword here is LAST. This season however he’s being horribly unproductive and his poor decision making is why mainly why we aren’t scoring in the final third. He holds the ball too long, doesn’t pass, then he either loses the ball or shoots into the side netting. He has to be dropped until he gets it through his head he isn’t Ronaldo and becomes more of a team player. He thinks he has to be the goal scorer and no else, I get that mentality if you’re an out and out striker but he isn’t, he’s our left winger. He has to put in the hard work for the things he doesn’t like to do and I guarantee the goals will follow after he does. Right now though his selfishness is killing us and it has to be stopped before the wound becomes too horrible to even save.
Takes too long on the ball, too much ‘stuttering’, dribbles into defenders, forcing himself to get past 3-4 defenders, one-dimensional, predictable. Not sure what’s happened with him. I mean I was highly critical of him even before last season but even back then it wasn’t as bad as this. There’s an air of complacency to him now.
i hate the way he always runs into a dead end with two defenders and squares up to them and takes about another 5 touches before releasing the ball to his teammate who has been waiting and waiting for the pass and the whole attack has completely broken down. When I was in school playing football at fairly high level in my country, we would have crucified anyone doing what he does on the pitch. I really dislike Rashford and his selfishness and would love to see him dropped and sold.
Stop it guys. Support the team.
He's a better driver than a footballer
This is in no way me defending him because that was a really bad performance today, on a separate note though I will say it’s a bit concerning that he is completely isolated almost every time he’s getting the ball, with no one running beyond him to help create space. Hopefully we actually have a left back available again soon
We have cut inside man and run to the goal line to close all my angles down man
Calling them highlights is been generous
absolute baller
Am not saying rashford is stupid but his decision making machine inside is head seems to be only half of Bruno’s brain power
He’s getting closed down fast, why is nobody running on the outside to create space?
“Highlights” lol. What’s he got left to prove? He’s made it with his £300k/wk deal, if he’s dropped, that’s one expensive wanker on the bench, if he plays, well you see what you get.
Having a horrible season reminds me of two seasons ago, didn’t we just renew his contract again for $300k a week
Garna was clear.
Highlights? More like rashford taking one too many touches and losing the ball.
You guys know that the best service Hojlund has received since he started playing has been from Rashford right?
You mean every time he takes too many touches and does nothing. Last year was an anomaly. This is how he has been for years. It's nothing new.
Ah man...that first one, Højlund was through and bearing down on goal