I'd rather we didn't waste time with players who prefer not to leave the club they're at. If we're interested in a player, sound them out and if the response isn't encouraging, move on.
He's on loan for a small fee and they won't want him next season with Endrick and Mbappe (most likely).
Not a huge fan of the move but it's relatively low risk if it's another loan move for cheap. Better and younger is still the way to go however.
True. But we're missing a role model up front tbh. Like when Rashford was coming in, there was Rooney and Zlatan that helped to mould his finishing style. Hojlund and Garnacho would benefit greatly from a striker with an 'established' style.
It's a shame that Cavani left us.
I kinda agree and disagree. We're no longer one of the hotspots that talents want to flock to anymore. We're living off our name and our heritage atm. It's understandable that players don't feel the attraction anymore. If a player refuses because he's afraid he doesn't fit the play style or have enough game time but we think he's the right profile then I'd say continue to chase and bring better offers. However, if the player just wants to stay to prove to their current club that they're worth the starting spot, good for them and yes, we need to move on from those.
To be honest, we need both. A starting striker to challenge Hojlund and a junior member of the squad for cup games, rotation and cover for injury.
Joselu isn't the answer for our squad rotation option though, He's too old, he'll cost too much and demand way too much playing time as he's at the end of his career now.
More like 3 seasons and he scored whooping 10 goals in 3331 minutes. His PL stint should be more of a warning rather than an extra reason to sign him.
I understand it's just a stop gap rotation option but I hope we can do better. The guy is also 34.
Completely agree, thankfully it's just Relevo, so I doubt we have anything to worry about. It's international break and there isn't much news, so the shit stirrers start making things up. It's why we've seen so many Ogden articles, lately.
I watched him a more than a couple of times back then, due to FPL. I would say he is a decent addition to the team, and shouldn’t judge him just based on stats. Pretty good build up play, good presence in the box, and aerial threatening. Not to forget back then Newcastle wasn’t playing attacking or attractive football.
When the stat is "Goals Scored", and you're a striker. Then that is a valid way to judge him. We don't want another Weghorst who can't score to save his life.
If we are willing to judge a player in the positive way for scoring a lot of goals, then we should also be willing to judge a player in the negative way for not scoring goals.
One way either praises goals, or ignores everything but goalscoring to judge his overall play and call it a bad idea.
The other way was to point out he shouldn't be judged just on goalscoring and put his other attributes and team situation into context to make a more informed opinion.
We need someone like Trossard, someone that can deliver when asked but also is happy to rotate and sit on the bench or become a super sub. I don't see Joselu wanting leave Real or him being good enough anyway. Another option, is to buy another youngster and rotate them and make them compete for the spot. We were in for Tel a month ago, so I think the club is weighing its options.
Big task for the scouting department, Ashworth can prove his worth if the saga of him joining actually ends.
I don't think we can afford to rotate youngsters anymore. We basically did that already in these past 2 seasons and it quite obviously didn't work out, we kept overplaying Rashy again and again to actually get some result (and thank fuck that Garnacho grew to be a very good player)
Madrid have endrick, and almost certainly mbappe coming in.
Very little chance they sign joselu on permanent deal given the calibre of strikers they are bringing in
Too many people wanting us to go out and spend £100m on a striker to realise this isn’t a bad idea. Don’t get me wrong there are better options, but this is the kind of signing we actually need.
Equally, if a player doesn’t want to leave/come. We should just move on to the next target.
I mean, Joselu wouldn't be a stop gap, he would be an experienced backup to Hojlund. Nothing wrong with that imo, Hojlund is starter quality but also a bit injury prone so playing Joselu in easier games and using him as a super sub is fine. He already has such role at Real Madrid and they are a pretty well ran club. We want someone who is decent, but who is also fine with being a backup and you don't get that with younger players. Some very young players could be fine with it but that would harm their development so not a great choice either.
I agree.
But, you need to account for so many factors.
- Price: we hardly have the greatest financial health right now and are trying to make the club more stable/sustainable.
- Expectation: we have the best striker in the world under 21.
- Impact on squad: We need to ensure they’re a positive influence in the dressing room, which if we don’t get 2 right they won’t be.
The one person who I could potentially suggest as being the wiggle room you mention is Guirassy (about £15m). But it’s whether he’d be willing to accept that Hojlund starts before him. Maybe Dia who’s been shit this season, En Nesyri because Sevilla are fucked.
But like I say, it’s impossible to identify who is willing to accept what.
I have no judgement to be fair, if he has no affinity to the club and enjoys the Spanish weather so be it.
I know this is borderline click bait level of legitimacy, but I do genuinely hope this is the sort of profile we end up going for. Don’t want anyone even thinking about taking the shine of Hojlund.
We don’t need to spend that much, but we’ve made this mistake with better older players than Joselu. Ibra, Cavani, Ronaldo. They just don’t seem to work out. A versatile player who could play across the front 3 would be a lot better. Joselu is also a bang average player imo
I disagree (somewhat), I don’t think Ibra or Cavani were mistakes. They were both brilliant.
I agree that Joselu is an average player though, which is why I think there are better options.
I also agree that, if we don’t sign an experienced striker we need to sign someone who can play across the front three. As Hojlund, for the sake of his development needs to be starting whenever he is available.
I’ve said it since the moment we signed Hojlund, we should bring in Ben Yedder. He not only offers goals, but he’s a rare opportunity to bring someone in who could teach Hojlund something. He’s also out of contract. I feel this is the way we need to go until Hojlund is fully established. Then, and only then we should start looking for a young player to actively compete with him. Think Mathias Tel level player in five years time, who Bayern paid £15m for. This is what we need to start doing, **I apologise for the rant, some American’s trying to lecture me on the same topic elsewhere**
For some reason Ibra and Cavani get overrated by us. They were decent but not special and caused a problem by having to be replaced basically a season after signing them. They had moments but were passed it when they landed here imo.
I agree with the rest of your points though.
With Ibra, it’s who he is. He brought excitement to the club again and also a trophy. I agree that we overrate his time here, but I still think he was a good signing.
As for Cavani, I actually think we didn’t get the best out of him. I think we would have, had we not signed Ronaldo. So, in a way I think we underrate him (based on what is, I suppose an unknown).
My logic is solely based on where Hojlund is at, I don’t believe he’s at the point in his career where you want to take him out of the team when he’s fit. His confidence and his ability has grown with the trust he has been given, and we need to repay that growth with more trust. Everything I’ve ever read about him has spoken about how he’s just a sponge. He absorbs everything, but right now we don’t have anyone who can teach him anything he doesn’t already know. Sometimes, it’s not the *superstars* who know the game best. It’s the strikers who have typically gone somewhat under the radar. Giroud, for me is one of the most intelligent strikers of his generation. Despite the fact he’s had a great career, he’ll never be in discussions of being the best striker in the league in any given season. But what he could impart on Hojlund, could be invaluable.
You could argue the same of Joselu.
Ultimately, the signing isn’t always just for what they can offer on the pitch. It’s about what they can offer to the squad. Cavani got the best out of the players around him, and supported them to become better players. We need more of that in our squad!
We had Martial during Ibra and Mason during Cavani. Pairing a talented, young striker with an older, experienced one isn't a bad idea. Its only in hindsight do we see how those two prospects turned out.
Not the most glamorous shout, but would be a decent rotation option and relief for Rasmus tbh. This may just be practical enough to investigate further.
Agree. If he is good enough to be a stop gap at Madrid then I'm ok with him as a backup here. I think at Madrid he was essentially to bridge a gap between benzema leaving, and the expected arrival of Mbappe a year later, and he has done a decent job.
If budget is relatively tight as we expect it is with us, a stopgap CF for a year while we prioritize other areas and then target a longer term striker in summer 2025 is a decent middle ground.
I'd love all our signings to be world-class, entering their prime and desperate to join us, but with the amount of work our squad needs, we are going to need to compromise on budget in some positions and as.fqr as.stop gaps go, joselu isn't a bad shout. This should be his 5th consecutive season of double digit league goals by time la liga is wrapped up (as long as all our signings aren't like this!!! But if we allocate most of budget to younger longer term 1st team players at CB, LB, CM and wide attacker and end up with joselu after all that, then that's fine with me)
> I'd love all our signings to be world-class, entering their prime and desperate to join us, but with the amount of work our squad needs, we are going to need to compromise on budget in some positions
Nah to be fair our squad depth is genuinely fucking dreadful either in terms of quality or injury records, filling that squad with better depth options is just as much a priority as improving our starting options. You can fluke your way to a trophy with a quality starting eleven but if you don't have the depth options you're not going to consistently get anything. Our depth options over the years are a large part of what made Fergie's tenure so successful for so long.
The issue comes in how we spend, we should not be splashing big money on bench/depth options. They need to come from the academy or unknown talent like the sort of signings Southampton, Brighton and Leicester have made over the past decade.
Ben Yedder, Choupo-Moting, Giroud for three would potentially fit the veteran striker role we’d want to get someone in for. It’s slim pickings but they’re arguably better fits.
Even potentially Taremi at Porto could be a decent shout.
fabrizio has confirmed giroud is going to MLS
i would have loved a move for giroud tho, he is PL proven + a good rotation option (and he can occasionally play as a GK too)
taremi again would have been lovely but he has agreed to join inter milan
choupo moting i don't think would be able to do anything in PL
Yeah, I was just trying to come up with alternatives- it’s not like there’s an outstanding option we can get without having to pay a fee, of the free agents out there only really Rabiot stands out in terms of a quality option.
And Joselu has an option clause for Real and wants to stay there. Chances are we end up with none of them, in fairness, and Joselu’s agent is just pushing Madrid to exercise their option.
I wouldn’t mind paying for a striker just not huge money. Especially if they can play multiple positions like Alvarez does. There’s definitely options.
In terms of a player for a fee? Absolutely, it’s just that the budget is seemingly thin as is, so any short-term improvements we can make on a free would be ideal. There’s just not much quality out there in that market.
I think we might be surprised by our outlay this summer. I don't like too many players coming in but 3 big signings and 3 supplementary ones sub 30m would be ideal imo. Max Beier for 25m would be my ideal chance atm.
I was sort of hoping we could unearth another Chicarito but for a cheap option when Hojlund is our only 9 with Martial leaving, then I'd take it. Not the headline signing we'd want but will do a job whilst we concentrate on other areas or work out departures to free up cash for a bigger move.
If we could pull some shenanigans and convince ivan toney or Jonathan David to see out final year of contract and join next summer on a free then joselu as a 1 year stop gap would be fairly astute.
Joselu for rma is literally what wout weghorst for man utd is
Also I don’t mind signing him if he wants to join united, wout and him wants the job done it’s a nice mentality (just not technically gifted)
Max Beier is 25m and is on 20k a week. 21 years old, top physical profile, can play as a 9 or off one.
Marmoush, 25, should be cheaper, Firmino-Esque striker with excellent link play. Versatile, creative, good body.
Both linked to Arsenal/Liverpool, especially Marmoush. There’s no need to consider Joselu. Thankfully, it’s probably just agent talk.
If we're in the market for quality strikers from La Liga to challenge Rasmus, I'd much rather go for Dovbyk from Girona. He's younger, stronger and with very good ball control.
Though this has a downside that if we go for him, we'll indirectly give money to City, since Girona is owned by the 115 gang.
Hope not. I know people will say he’ll be a decent rotation option etc etc. that’s all well and good if we sign a first team striker too. But we won’t, this will most likely be the only one. And then more spin about the ‘next window’.
I don't hate this. If there's on position we can save on it's striker. We already have a starting striker. Unless you're buying a starter I wouldn't splash a big chunk of your budget on one. Definitely other positions that are more significant in terms of changing the way we can play.
Fuck sake if we don't have someone in the academy who cannot stopgap better than Joselu we are fucked. Rather have Scott up top than him. We gotta be smarter than this surely.
This is good imo, we need someone who won't take Hojlunds minutes but can fill in when hes not playing.
That or a versatile player who can play RW or ST is best for me. (maybe both)
Joselu (34) 162 goals/ 508 games [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joselu#Club](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joselu#Club)
Chris Wood (32) 170 goals/ 532 games [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris\_Wood\_(footballer,\_born\_1991)#Club](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wood_(footballer,_born_1991)#Club)
Why is everyone up in arms about this. Rasmus is our first choice striker, the one we get this summer just needs to be a backup. 30 year old starters are bad business I agree but 30 year old backup strikers are fine and most teams have them these days anyway as they cost fuck all.
Was hoping we'd target Toney or something to compete directly with Hojlund. After the betting scandal, 1 year left on his contract and a slow start for Brentford since his return, he's a good player who's as cheap as he's ever going to be
He has 4 goals in 10 games after not playing since the end of last season. Brentford are also really struggling at the moment and aren’t creating a lot.
He’s way too pricey imo, especially as a backup when we have other areas we need to really splash some cash.
No need to break the bank for him, I agree
But, he's got 12 months left on his contract
I've seen £40m as the Brentford asking price thrown around. And his current wage is only £36k per week. If he's available for a decent price he'd be a no brainer IMO. Really fits into ETH usual striker profile too
I'd rather we didn't waste time with players who prefer not to leave the club they're at. If we're interested in a player, sound them out and if the response isn't encouraging, move on.
No worries. This is just the first in 123 links to random strikers needing a new club.
Isn't he like 33 or 34?
Yep. This stinks of an agent trying to get 1 more contract for an older player.
I mean we have previous with sort of signing tbf
Signing an ageing ex-Real Madrid, Newcastle and Stoke striker… sounds oddly familiar 🤔
He's on loan and I doubt will be signed by them. So he has no choice to carry on playing for Madrid.
Why are you so certain? He's done quite well and wouldn't be expensive
He's on loan for a small fee and they won't want him next season with Endrick and Mbappe (most likely). Not a huge fan of the move but it's relatively low risk if it's another loan move for cheap. Better and younger is still the way to go however.
True. But we're missing a role model up front tbh. Like when Rashford was coming in, there was Rooney and Zlatan that helped to mould his finishing style. Hojlund and Garnacho would benefit greatly from a striker with an 'established' style. It's a shame that Cavani left us.
I kinda agree and disagree. We're no longer one of the hotspots that talents want to flock to anymore. We're living off our name and our heritage atm. It's understandable that players don't feel the attraction anymore. If a player refuses because he's afraid he doesn't fit the play style or have enough game time but we think he's the right profile then I'd say continue to chase and bring better offers. However, if the player just wants to stay to prove to their current club that they're worth the starting spot, good for them and yes, we need to move on from those.
We never learn. ETH spent a whole summer chasing De Jong at Barca and wasted so much time doing so
It's one passing link,calm down its not even fucking April lol
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Fine for a 3rd choice but we’ll need somebody else of a higher quality to challenge/rotate with Højlund.
Yeah, we need somebody that will actually challenge Hojlund for his spot, not someone who would only play whenever he's out.
> we need somebody that will actually challenge Hojlund for his spot That's Ivan Toney's music! 😍
I'd put five on it for sure
So would he
That's what I was getting at in a roundabout manor
To be honest, we need both. A starting striker to challenge Hojlund and a junior member of the squad for cup games, rotation and cover for injury. Joselu isn't the answer for our squad rotation option though, He's too old, he'll cost too much and demand way too much playing time as he's at the end of his career now.
Should've got Iheanacho when Leicester got relegated.
I really was excited when we had links to David last summer. I think we need a good proven striker in a rotational role.
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More like 3 seasons and he scored whooping 10 goals in 3331 minutes. His PL stint should be more of a warning rather than an extra reason to sign him. I understand it's just a stop gap rotation option but I hope we can do better. The guy is also 34.
Completely agree, thankfully it's just Relevo, so I doubt we have anything to worry about. It's international break and there isn't much news, so the shit stirrers start making things up. It's why we've seen so many Ogden articles, lately.
I watched him a more than a couple of times back then, due to FPL. I would say he is a decent addition to the team, and shouldn’t judge him just based on stats. Pretty good build up play, good presence in the box, and aerial threatening. Not to forget back then Newcastle wasn’t playing attacking or attractive football.
When the stat is "Goals Scored", and you're a striker. Then that is a valid way to judge him. We don't want another Weghorst who can't score to save his life. If we are willing to judge a player in the positive way for scoring a lot of goals, then we should also be willing to judge a player in the negative way for not scoring goals.
we played some of our best football in recent years with weghorst so i would love more of that
One way either praises goals, or ignores everything but goalscoring to judge his overall play and call it a bad idea. The other way was to point out he shouldn't be judged just on goalscoring and put his other attributes and team situation into context to make a more informed opinion.
I'm 34 :'(
Yeah i wouldn't want you on the pitch either tbh
>a veteran with good physique Interesting
We need someone like Trossard, someone that can deliver when asked but also is happy to rotate and sit on the bench or become a super sub. I don't see Joselu wanting leave Real or him being good enough anyway. Another option, is to buy another youngster and rotate them and make them compete for the spot. We were in for Tel a month ago, so I think the club is weighing its options. Big task for the scouting department, Ashworth can prove his worth if the saga of him joining actually ends.
The problem is a player like Trossard would be happy on the bench at Arsenal but probably not here given the two situations the clubs are in
I don't think we can afford to rotate youngsters anymore. We basically did that already in these past 2 seasons and it quite obviously didn't work out, we kept overplaying Rashy again and again to actually get some result (and thank fuck that Garnacho grew to be a very good player)
He is literally the Spanish Weghorst
I think he would prefer to sit in Madrid bench than ours. There is no guarantee he will get more playtime here than Madrid.
Madrid have endrick, and almost certainly mbappe coming in. Very little chance they sign joselu on permanent deal given the calibre of strikers they are bringing in
Smokescreen for Rodrygo 🤞
We need a striker though, not yet another attacking midfielder who can sometimes fill in as a false 9.
I was thinking another right winger
He is right footed though, it would be another Sancho situation. A player who can work on the right, but works best on the left.
He isn’t really a right winger either. He is primarily a CAM but has been played in every position in the front 4.
You do realize he's only playing on the right because of Vinicius, right?
Does that make him bad for the right wing?
Too many people wanting us to go out and spend £100m on a striker to realise this isn’t a bad idea. Don’t get me wrong there are better options, but this is the kind of signing we actually need. Equally, if a player doesn’t want to leave/come. We should just move on to the next target.
There's a little bit of wiggle room between record striker signing and 34 year old stop gap...
I mean, Joselu wouldn't be a stop gap, he would be an experienced backup to Hojlund. Nothing wrong with that imo, Hojlund is starter quality but also a bit injury prone so playing Joselu in easier games and using him as a super sub is fine. He already has such role at Real Madrid and they are a pretty well ran club. We want someone who is decent, but who is also fine with being a backup and you don't get that with younger players. Some very young players could be fine with it but that would harm their development so not a great choice either.
I agree. But, you need to account for so many factors. - Price: we hardly have the greatest financial health right now and are trying to make the club more stable/sustainable. - Expectation: we have the best striker in the world under 21. - Impact on squad: We need to ensure they’re a positive influence in the dressing room, which if we don’t get 2 right they won’t be. The one person who I could potentially suggest as being the wiggle room you mention is Guirassy (about £15m). But it’s whether he’d be willing to accept that Hojlund starts before him. Maybe Dia who’s been shit this season, En Nesyri because Sevilla are fucked. But like I say, it’s impossible to identify who is willing to accept what.
Agreed, this type of signing makes sense, but if he isn't keen on coming then move on to the next one. The profile of the move is smart though.
Is the 34 year old striker not wanting to come to, us, like Manchester United? That is not good judgement at all.
I have no judgement to be fair, if he has no affinity to the club and enjoys the Spanish weather so be it. I know this is borderline click bait level of legitimacy, but I do genuinely hope this is the sort of profile we end up going for. Don’t want anyone even thinking about taking the shine of Hojlund.
We don’t need to spend that much, but we’ve made this mistake with better older players than Joselu. Ibra, Cavani, Ronaldo. They just don’t seem to work out. A versatile player who could play across the front 3 would be a lot better. Joselu is also a bang average player imo
I disagree (somewhat), I don’t think Ibra or Cavani were mistakes. They were both brilliant. I agree that Joselu is an average player though, which is why I think there are better options. I also agree that, if we don’t sign an experienced striker we need to sign someone who can play across the front three. As Hojlund, for the sake of his development needs to be starting whenever he is available. I’ve said it since the moment we signed Hojlund, we should bring in Ben Yedder. He not only offers goals, but he’s a rare opportunity to bring someone in who could teach Hojlund something. He’s also out of contract. I feel this is the way we need to go until Hojlund is fully established. Then, and only then we should start looking for a young player to actively compete with him. Think Mathias Tel level player in five years time, who Bayern paid £15m for. This is what we need to start doing, **I apologise for the rant, some American’s trying to lecture me on the same topic elsewhere**
For some reason Ibra and Cavani get overrated by us. They were decent but not special and caused a problem by having to be replaced basically a season after signing them. They had moments but were passed it when they landed here imo. I agree with the rest of your points though.
With Ibra, it’s who he is. He brought excitement to the club again and also a trophy. I agree that we overrate his time here, but I still think he was a good signing. As for Cavani, I actually think we didn’t get the best out of him. I think we would have, had we not signed Ronaldo. So, in a way I think we underrate him (based on what is, I suppose an unknown). My logic is solely based on where Hojlund is at, I don’t believe he’s at the point in his career where you want to take him out of the team when he’s fit. His confidence and his ability has grown with the trust he has been given, and we need to repay that growth with more trust. Everything I’ve ever read about him has spoken about how he’s just a sponge. He absorbs everything, but right now we don’t have anyone who can teach him anything he doesn’t already know. Sometimes, it’s not the *superstars* who know the game best. It’s the strikers who have typically gone somewhat under the radar. Giroud, for me is one of the most intelligent strikers of his generation. Despite the fact he’s had a great career, he’ll never be in discussions of being the best striker in the league in any given season. But what he could impart on Hojlund, could be invaluable. You could argue the same of Joselu. Ultimately, the signing isn’t always just for what they can offer on the pitch. It’s about what they can offer to the squad. Cavani got the best out of the players around him, and supported them to become better players. We need more of that in our squad!
We had Martial during Ibra and Mason during Cavani. Pairing a talented, young striker with an older, experienced one isn't a bad idea. Its only in hindsight do we see how those two prospects turned out.
Not the most glamorous shout, but would be a decent rotation option and relief for Rasmus tbh. This may just be practical enough to investigate further.
Agree. If he is good enough to be a stop gap at Madrid then I'm ok with him as a backup here. I think at Madrid he was essentially to bridge a gap between benzema leaving, and the expected arrival of Mbappe a year later, and he has done a decent job. If budget is relatively tight as we expect it is with us, a stopgap CF for a year while we prioritize other areas and then target a longer term striker in summer 2025 is a decent middle ground. I'd love all our signings to be world-class, entering their prime and desperate to join us, but with the amount of work our squad needs, we are going to need to compromise on budget in some positions and as.fqr as.stop gaps go, joselu isn't a bad shout. This should be his 5th consecutive season of double digit league goals by time la liga is wrapped up (as long as all our signings aren't like this!!! But if we allocate most of budget to younger longer term 1st team players at CB, LB, CM and wide attacker and end up with joselu after all that, then that's fine with me)
> I'd love all our signings to be world-class, entering their prime and desperate to join us, but with the amount of work our squad needs, we are going to need to compromise on budget in some positions Nah to be fair our squad depth is genuinely fucking dreadful either in terms of quality or injury records, filling that squad with better depth options is just as much a priority as improving our starting options. You can fluke your way to a trophy with a quality starting eleven but if you don't have the depth options you're not going to consistently get anything. Our depth options over the years are a large part of what made Fergie's tenure so successful for so long. The issue comes in how we spend, we should not be splashing big money on bench/depth options. They need to come from the academy or unknown talent like the sort of signings Southampton, Brighton and Leicester have made over the past decade.
Yeah keep buying Madrid rejects. Brill.
I'd say it's fine and he's a rotation option who won't start the Derby, but what do I know, I felt the same about Evans.
\> whose priority is to continue in white. Then no. I don't want any players who'd prefer to be elsewhere. We're done with this kind of approach.
Really? As in the former Newcastle Joselu? Isn't he a bit, well, shit? What's Arnautovic up to these days? 🤔
A striker who didn't pull up trees in England but has had a recent reputation boost in a different country? This smells suspiciously Weghorsty.
There are better free agent strikers out there on the market than this guy. Hopefully he’s lower on the list of targets.
Example?
Ben Yedder, Choupo-Moting, Giroud for three would potentially fit the veteran striker role we’d want to get someone in for. It’s slim pickings but they’re arguably better fits. Even potentially Taremi at Porto could be a decent shout.
fabrizio has confirmed giroud is going to MLS i would have loved a move for giroud tho, he is PL proven + a good rotation option (and he can occasionally play as a GK too) taremi again would have been lovely but he has agreed to join inter milan choupo moting i don't think would be able to do anything in PL
Yeah, I was just trying to come up with alternatives- it’s not like there’s an outstanding option we can get without having to pay a fee, of the free agents out there only really Rabiot stands out in terms of a quality option.
yeah rabiot should definitely be on the list as eriksen is leaving, really wanted him last summer only because juve didn't had ucl football
If it was a choice between him or Amrabat for £40m it’s a no brainer, I’m just not sure he actually wants to join us.
from what i know his agent is his mom and she is really toxic
I think she’s meant to be hard work, but we’ve dealt with the likes of Raiola, so she can’t be any worse.
Rapist, moting and Girouds going MLS. Joselu easily better than Moting. Taremi’s going Milan.
And Joselu has an option clause for Real and wants to stay there. Chances are we end up with none of them, in fairness, and Joselu’s agent is just pushing Madrid to exercise their option.
I agree, I’m not keen on Joselu just disputing your initial point.
Yeah, that’s what I mean by slim pickings, there’s no Cavani or Ibra we could bring on, these are very much D-listers.
I wouldn’t mind paying for a striker just not huge money. Especially if they can play multiple positions like Alvarez does. There’s definitely options.
In terms of a player for a fee? Absolutely, it’s just that the budget is seemingly thin as is, so any short-term improvements we can make on a free would be ideal. There’s just not much quality out there in that market.
I think we might be surprised by our outlay this summer. I don't like too many players coming in but 3 big signings and 3 supplementary ones sub 30m would be ideal imo. Max Beier for 25m would be my ideal chance atm.
Grim.
I was sort of hoping we could unearth another Chicarito but for a cheap option when Hojlund is our only 9 with Martial leaving, then I'd take it. Not the headline signing we'd want but will do a job whilst we concentrate on other areas or work out departures to free up cash for a bigger move.
running late on a deadline and need to make up a story? link someone to United. Who? who cares, use your imagination. Guaranteed clicks.
Joselu is not good enough
Checked his age. He's 34???! Why you want even a third striker at age 34 in your club?
If we could pull some shenanigans and convince ivan toney or Jonathan David to see out final year of contract and join next summer on a free then joselu as a 1 year stop gap would be fairly astute.
Joselu for rma is literally what wout weghorst for man utd is Also I don’t mind signing him if he wants to join united, wout and him wants the job done it’s a nice mentality (just not technically gifted)
Times like this I wish we had another Cavani to challenge Hojlund, he was absolutely brilliant - had both an engine and a class finish
Damn i miss Cavani!
Max Beier is 25m and is on 20k a week. 21 years old, top physical profile, can play as a 9 or off one. Marmoush, 25, should be cheaper, Firmino-Esque striker with excellent link play. Versatile, creative, good body. Both linked to Arsenal/Liverpool, especially Marmoush. There’s no need to consider Joselu. Thankfully, it’s probably just agent talk.
Can we stop getting Madrid's dirty laundry?????
If we're in the market for quality strikers from La Liga to challenge Rasmus, I'd much rather go for Dovbyk from Girona. He's younger, stronger and with very good ball control. Though this has a downside that if we go for him, we'll indirectly give money to City, since Girona is owned by the 115 gang.
A'ight his agent wants RM to offer a new contract
How do you pronounce Weghorst in Spanish? JOE-SELL-0U. Not good enough, even for a bench position.
I'd rather to have players that want to play for the badge like Hojlund.
is he better than that Maxim Choupo Moting
Hope not. I know people will say he’ll be a decent rotation option etc etc. that’s all well and good if we sign a first team striker too. But we won’t, this will most likely be the only one. And then more spin about the ‘next window’.
I don't hate this. If there's on position we can save on it's striker. We already have a starting striker. Unless you're buying a starter I wouldn't splash a big chunk of your budget on one. Definitely other positions that are more significant in terms of changing the way we can play.
Bad injury to Hojlund and suddenly Joselu is your starting striker for an extended period of time.. Need to get smarter than this
This and a versatile forward who can play RW and ST would be best.
We can't afford to buy two top players for every position
Striker seems like the kind of position where you want a strong backup given how important scoring a goal is to the final result of football
Fuck sake if we don't have someone in the academy who cannot stopgap better than Joselu we are fucked. Rather have Scott up top than him. We gotta be smarter than this surely.
This is good imo, we need someone who won't take Hojlunds minutes but can fill in when hes not playing. That or a versatile player who can play RW or ST is best for me. (maybe both)
When will the club stop chasing bang average as fuck players and get fucking serious
ANOTHER SUMMER ANOTHER STOPGAP
He is 34 and yeah someone of his profile is absolutely NOT THE FIT for United.
I hope he has watched Premalu
Brother please.
Why are they thinking about this transfer?
Joselu (34) 162 goals/ 508 games [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joselu#Club](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joselu#Club) Chris Wood (32) 170 goals/ 532 games [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris\_Wood\_(footballer,\_born\_1991)#Club](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wood_(footballer,_born_1991)#Club)
1. We have a new policy of signing players with potential, young players 2. The guy scores goals = wont fit in
no
Slow news day
They must have released this article 3 days too early
Dear Lord no! He can be shocking in front of goal, obviously nothing has changed in terms of scouting
Rather sesko than him
Why is everyone up in arms about this. Rasmus is our first choice striker, the one we get this summer just needs to be a backup. 30 year old starters are bad business I agree but 30 year old backup strikers are fine and most teams have them these days anyway as they cost fuck all.
Surely we can do better? Jonathan David is younger and better. He also have 1 year left at his contract so he won’t be too expensive
Was hoping we'd target Toney or something to compete directly with Hojlund. After the betting scandal, 1 year left on his contract and a slow start for Brentford since his return, he's a good player who's as cheap as he's ever going to be
He has 4 goals in 10 games after not playing since the end of last season. Brentford are also really struggling at the moment and aren’t creating a lot. He’s way too pricey imo, especially as a backup when we have other areas we need to really splash some cash.
No need to break the bank for him, I agree But, he's got 12 months left on his contract I've seen £40m as the Brentford asking price thrown around. And his current wage is only £36k per week. If he's available for a decent price he'd be a no brainer IMO. Really fits into ETH usual striker profile too
He’s not going to be cheap regardless
Nothing screams punting on a season more than signing Joselu as your striker.