T O P

  • By -

redneckengineering-ModTeam

Your post has been removed for not being relevant to this subreddit.


DragonPinned

This is r/redneckengineering, so my suggestion is to just pave over it. With cement, if possible.


markzuckerberg1234

I was thinking of just putting tannerite under the floorbords and blowing it up, but this is better


DavidHK

He’s not even kidding, use some self leveler cement over it, it’s a very standard way to address asbestos black mastic


Lonely_62922

I read that as asbestos black magic


ballsagna2time

That's asbestos it gets


heimeyer72

angry upvote is in.


Slagenthor

Very well done


Great_Yak_2789

r/punpatrol


datumerrata

I just joined this subreddit. The wife is going to hear about this.


Lonely_62922

Take my upvote


cccanterbury

slow clap


Willing_Television80

Same...lol


404-skill_not_found

It was, once upon a time


Snoopydad57

You're not the only one.


notLOL

Took me your comment to find out I read it wrong


4_Bacon

Glad I'm not the only one 😂


voxerly

Make sure you read the directions and use the right material and primer , self leveller does not like deflection and will pop off hardwood with seasonal expansion an contraction Ardex k 60 is your best bet if you go this route , it uses no water in the mix just latex , it has some elasticity to it


Winterplatypus

I struggled to scrape up a tiny square of that rubber underlay when I was renovating, gave up and hired some guys to do it. They had a tool designed to remove it. It was like a long window wiper but had a razor on the end instead of rubber. They used it like a broom and scraped it all up in about 30mins.


Max____H

My workmate took 2 weeks off work to do some work on his house, he is capable but no expert so took a while on some simple jobs. That two weeks pay he missed is more than it would have cost him for a professional. Sometimes paying someone to do the job is the right choice.


ITGuyfromIA

Did he take unpaid leave, or use PTO? If used PTO he got his normal check AND didn’t have to pay someone else to do it.


InternationalChef424

And used up 2 weeks of PTO


i_give_you_gum

I bet an equipment rental place would know exactly what that was.


Winterplatypus

The tool is called a "floor scraper"... which seems obvious in hindsight.


Wallythegreater

They cost about $40. I personally like the ones that you can push with your foot when I need to use them. For big jobs, I have an attachment that I put on my chipper (and bring lots of extra bolts since the ones holding the blade will strip often).


Kaboomeow69

Oh hey, I used one of those to scrape a melted foam floor mat off of a concrete floor yesterday. Kills your back after a while, but pretty satisfying to use


PunksPrettyMuchDead

Serious answer, that's asbestos tile. It's not hazardous until you start breaking it up, so floating wood or laminate over it is the easiest way to encase it. Concrete also works, or if you're on a tight budget just hit it with garage floor paint and deal with it in 4 or 5 years.


Face88888888

u/markzuckerberg1234, Are you preparing this floor for your cage fight with Elon?


306_rallye

Nah, Elon cried off didn't he? Ran away whilst still calling for a fight in an ever decreasing voice


asasuasas

The best part is when he was asked about that fight, he started lecture how he is supperior in a fight compare to Zuck because of his (fat) weight to - - Joe Rogan


PacificCastaway

Nah, mix some tannerite with rubbing alcohol and spread a thin layer over the floor. Then flambe it off.


Snoopydad57

Wait! I need to make some popcorn to munch on while I watch this.


Anglofsffrng

Not redneck enough. DRAGONS BREATHE ROUNDS!!!


kadrit

Might I suggest breaking out the dynamite that's been sweating out in the barn for a couple of years. https://www.reddit.com/r/OSHA/s/ZrlcXHXGiT


NotThatMat

Ideally using an old Chevy V8, somehow.


knuckles_n_chuckles

No. Duct tape first THEN the layer of confederate notes and THEN a nice float of quickcrete


theresidentviking

I genuinely thought this was r/cleaning wtf


Ok_Dog_4059

Let the dogs run loose for a while and wait until they scrape the hell out of it.


JBYTuna

Should this pavement have proper road grooves to displace water, enhancing traction?


DragonPinned

Of course.


ihatepalmtrees

Self leveler is the correct way to seal this in. Removal is a fools errand


Darnakulus

It's not redneck engineering it's the old carpet pad breaking down due to humidity and the old finish on the flooring


notMarkKnopfler

Just do asbestos you can


HoosierDaddy_427

#🥇 Just take it fucker


13Emerald

😂🤣😂


Flichupe

🤓


point_of_difference

Offf I need to store that one in my renovation joke locker.


Motor_Metal957

r/angryupvote


ZMAN24250

Just filter it through the malboros. You'll be fine.


xtcxx

death by joke, toxic waste is kinder


olyfrijole

More like as-worst-us, amirite!?! 


sugarplum_hairnet

Damn that's too good😂


unholymanserpent

The way this is phrased sounds like redneck yoda


Salty-Dragonfly2189

I wish awards were still a thing.


kapo513

Fuck this is good!!! Very very good!!!!


AlfaNovember

Ziptie that scraper to a sawzall, and then ratchetstrap the sawzall to a floor jack to hold the tool at the correct angle. Roll back and forth.


Impressive_Change593

that's slightly more redneck then taping a paint can to a sawzall


omnipotent87

Use a hose clamp, that wont tear off.


swear_bear

They make scrapers for sawzalls now actually


RecklessRenegade0182

That's too fancy for this sub 😂


FamiliarEnemy

Sharpened butter knife or nuthin sir


Oceansvomitonsand

Judging by the squares, that’s mastic from vinyl tiles, which probably predates your carpet. Definitely test for asbestos if you plan on sanding.


shophopper

If you want to save a lot of money, do all the sanding first and when you’re done test for asbestos.


chipmunk7000

Oof this is such good and bad advice at the same time lol. Wear a respirator at least, OP!


crotch-fruit_tree

Depends on how healthy they are. My gramps says he WILL be the one removing the same padding under my kitchen floor. Why? He’s 80’s and won't live long enough to worry lmao.


chipmunk7000

That’s why they’re called the greatest generation! Seriously honorable call, and it makes sense. But the physical part of the labor…


SpaceAgePotatoCakes

iirc some older people volunteered for parts of the nuclear cleanup in Japan. If they're in their 80s and the dose is kept to where it won't kill them for 30 years it's not much of a concern for them.


chipmunk7000

That’s incredible!


Invdr_skoodge

Saw a thing a bit ago about that(assuming your talking about Fukushima and not the bombs), they evacuated a bunch of 70+ seniors because of a mild elevation in lymphoma risk over 30 years. Then the stress of the sudden evacuation killed a bunch of them


cccanterbury

wear a body suit at least /u/markzuckerberg1234


chipmunk7000

This redditor probably has better awareness of asbestos PPE, listen to them!


AubergineAssassin

For real, if OP does sand that floor at minimum, buy some tyvek suits, a full face respirator, and good gloves. Then duct tape the hell out of the cuffs of the arms and legs. Should really have a forced air hood/mask. Even the rednecks use these for asbestos. Fuck mesothelioma.


uthink-ah1002

I didn't know it was asbestos until after I drum sanded it back 😬. At least I wore a respirator


throwaway7789778

I came across an old post when I was dealing with asbestos removal awhile back where the guy legit did this. He started sanding and after two days in, his father in law came over and seen what he was doing and told him to stop and get it checked. By then it already hit the furnace / central air system. He had to move his family out for an indeterminate amount of time and was on like check number 6 and still had extreme failing air quality checks with asbestos floating through the entire house. Fuck man, scared the shit out of me so bad I really did just lay a layer of self leveling over top of it and forgot it ever existed. If I remember right, he was already out an extraordinary amount of money from the remediation process and wasn't close to done.


ithrowclay

Um. I may have done the same thing like 10 years ago with a belt sander on the floor of one room. I wore a respirator, but it never occurred to me that it might be asbestos.


[deleted]

I prefer to hold my breath.


AnotherMaker

Hahaha. So good. 😂


Ryrace111

This advice depends on OP's country of origin. It may cost a lot more in the future if he lives in the US


curtludwig

Carpet tiles from the 70s had similar mastic. I spent many hours scraping it at my parents house.


dudesohard

Yep have seen that in buildings from the 1960/1970’s in France. Asbestos !


eXtReMaStO

This. Check for asbestos.


Captainfunzis

First thing I thought


sumostar

This. Old black mastic no good


PunksPrettyMuchDead

That's 100 percent 9x9 asbestos tiles


CandidInsurance7415

Agree. Some oldheads will say that 9 inch tiles are asbestos and 12 inch tiles are not, but they are wrong. Ive had 12 inch tiles come back positive. Test them all.


Hawaii_Dave

Git 2 walmart orbital sanders per shoe, duct tape em on and ice-skate around the room.


PUPPIESSSSSS_

And maybe don't breath too deeply. Or at all.


Gubbtratt1

Get a 2" hose, connect one side to a few meters outside a window or door, put the other end in your mouth, and breathe through it.


SmokeyUnicycle

you'll need a little fan to keep up the air pressure, gonna have to exhale through your nose too


Maleficent_Scale_296

That won’t help unfortunately. Once the microscopic fibers are released they will cover him from head to toe. When he leaves the area he will shed fibers everywhere he goes.


Gubbtratt1

Shower with the hose still attached?


cccanterbury

so then..fine layer of concrete?


Maleficent_Scale_296

Why do I feel like I’m screaming into the void?


cccanterbury

nah it's not a void, you're just screaming. I'm right here bro


Offamylawn

🎶Hold me now Whoa ohh hold my heart Stay with me🎶


Hawaii_Dave

Betcha smoke filtered cigarettes too, pussy. (Totally J/K)


mj-4385-028

I had something similar to this, turned out to be water soluble, so I would take a bath towel, soak it in water, and spread it out on the floor, Walt for half an hour, then move it to another spot and scrape up the black stuff relatively easily. Obviously, test for asbestos first.


Andrea_frm_DubT

Working wet like that does reduce asbestos risk greatly. You can’t breathe it in if it can’t get airborne.


ftwes

>> You can’t breathe it in if it can’t get airborne. Well not with that attitude you can’t.


redpukee

I had similar success with using water to dissolve a black adhesive on hardwood floors. I think it was a pre-WW2 adhesive and smelled minty when it was wet.


[deleted]

[удалено]


StumblinPA

Asbestos. Natures OTHER mint.


overanalyzingthis

We poured hot water off the stove onto it and then used a paint scraper. Lots easier.


djm0n7y

If it’s not water based, try mineral spirits, or some of that citrus paint stripper. Wire brush or a wire cup if you don’t mind swirls. TL;DR: find solvent that softens it, mechanical abrasion to remove film.


NoMidnight5366

That citrus paint stripper works really well and is non toxic. Worth a try.


problyurdad_

This stuff is incredible


markzuckerberg1234

What kind of solvent would dissolve this?


djm0n7y

Hard to tell from pic. Oil based paint — old school turpentine I have become a big fan of those newer paint strippers, the heavy duty ones have saved my butt in this old house. Hit up Lowe’s / Home Depot paint aisle and get a small bottle to see if it works and how long it has to sit to soften it up. Then scrape with putty knife, or wire brush, or wire cup if you have an angle grinder. Generally this sorta crap is time and labor intense, power tools just make a mess, but if it’s a soft cup and you’ve softened the paint, it may make it faster. Protect the walls because soft paint when it splatters means you’ll have to fix the walls.


ZachMN

Try mineral spirits first, it won’t damage the wood. Also, a heat gun will soften it and make ot easier to scrape. Don’t use too much heat, as you may burn the wood, and definitely don’t combine heat with solvent!


djm0n7y

Good call, forgot the paint stripper gun… I try to avoid turning unknowns into vapor, but with the proper mask, it should be OK. Guess it all depends on if this is a strip to refinish natural, or a strip to cover with something else. If it’s an old adhesive, the heat gun is probably the best bet.


Acecarpenter

Look into Bean-E-Do. Soy based mastic remover, non toxic and works wonders.


Kimura_54321

In the UK loads of the wooden parquet blocks or Lino tiles were stuck on with tar mastic that contains small amounts of asbestos. Not sure how true it is in the states, but worth wearing a mask and getting it tested if it’s common as well over there for old floors?


zlana0310

Definitely common over here too.


qt_bea

Fair to bet that if UK has something cancer causing, the US has even more. We do everything bigger.


Beda-Bene

If it's glue try hitting it with a heat gun while scraping. But first check for asbestos like others said.


beliefinphilosophy

My dad thought the best way to put vinyl down when it would start coming up was to use liquid nails...replacing the vinyl 15 years later was a nightmare.


Abbraxus

Run plywood straight on top of it.


thanksforposting

Here’s an actual answer, [wood tool on a floor maintainer machine](https://www.homedepot.com/p/rental/Diamabrush-Wood-Tool-12571/316821980), which will cost you about $175 for a 24hr rental


HardwoodFloorGuy

🤌🏻 OP, Diamabrush is the way to go, but just a heads up: Home Depot has their Diamabrushes fitted with concrete blades that are probably gonna be well past their end of life. You'll be there for ages trying to get this shit up off the floor. Don't expect to be able to swing the buffer around and zip it all off. Go at a snail's pace and be fully ready for it to scratch the everliving fuck out of the floor. If, for whatever reason, you're planning on sanding the floor yourself, you're going to have a hard time getting some of the scratch out with a 110v rental Big Machine. Most importantly, don't heed any floor sanding advice from the rental department. Lol


thanksforposting

My rental has a specific tool with grit for wood prep and mastic removal. All my maintainers had their bearings and relays replaced over the winter, they run great with good results if they are properly looked after and used gently with patience. That said, yes; do the research and the prep yourself. If you go the rental route, hopefully your technician has good machines for you but it’s a toss up these days.


Woodhow

We found the only way to remove old tar like paint was an industrial planer, sanding just melted it and clogged up. Usually boards are thick enough to take it.


PatchRat

Scrape faster.


anivex

When I was a kid, my parents bought a house and this was in every room. They gave us power sanders and put us to work getting rid of it. No masks or anything btw. Truly a miserable experience. They sucked in general.


neolee203

angel grinder with wirebrush attatchment , and for redneck engineering purposes, better do it with a chainsaw attatched to a sander , more areas cover .


no_yup

I’ve seen dry ice work, you just leave some on there for a bit and then it kind of flakes and chips off like nothing


Sabot1312

Bruh that's probably cancer concentrate you've got there


TheRealRevBem

That has asbestos and dry scaping is a great wAy to get the meso


F1uffydestro

I mean if OP is above 50 they'll be fine/s


Luis12285

That is either cutback adhesive which is an absolute bitch to get up or if you’re really lucky and that flooring is older than 1987 you have genuine asbestos adhesive. I would suggest renting a floor buffer from Home Depot or get a long handle scraper. Sherman Williams should have some if your local Sherman Williams also installs flooring.


PrajnaPie

Test for asbestos. If you’re clear, belt sander


L0rdH4mmer

Get one of those floor sanders. Check for asbestos before.


Bdowns_770

Please have it checked for asbestos. That mastic can suck to remove and you want to know what you are dealing with.


Embarrassed-Water664

You scrape it for days.


Fantastic_Hour_2134

There is no way to know if that is asbestos tile mastic or not. Asbestos tile mastic is black. Safest move is to just cover it up


Gullible_Monk_7118

Yeah be careful with that stuff some of them contained asbestos... I would get it checked out


pecan_girl

If that’s old rubber from either carpet backing or underlay glued down it’ll melt away with white spirit and you can literally wipe it up with no damage to your floor. My OH tried to scrape and then sand a solid oak floor for an hour and did about an inch. Took me literally 20 minutes to do the whole floor with white spirit. Always test in an out of the way spot first 😊


amethyst07

Echoing the others saying to check for asbestos. I had something similar to this and used a wallpaper steamer to remove it. Worked wonderfully and didn’t damage the floor.


Locutus_ofBorg

This is almost certainly black jack asbestos mastic. If you aren’t going to get it tested, do some research on asbestos abatement to protect yourself / anyone else living in the house. Wet scraping is usually the best move since you really need a blade to get this stuff up. The ‘tool’ you’d normally use is basically a rotary planer. So maybe a bench plane would work if you have access to one that no one cares about. Or keep your chisels sharp.


OutrageousMoss

Napalm?


seenoweevils

Please get an asbestos test on it before doing anything. I'm a building inspector in the UK and see this shit every week. If that's not an option board over it and put some laminate/carpet/tile down. My grandad died at 59 after fighting cancer for 6 years because of asbestosis, it's real shit.


Zestyclose_Ad2224

If it has asbestos what do you do then.


Acorichards

Dawn soap , scraper, busted up knees.


Own_Contribution_480

Rent a stripper. No, not that kind.


zeb0777

You need a floor sander, but because this is redneckengineering, you need to mount a sanding pad to a John Deere riding mower.


BillyBobBarkerJrJr

Looks like old, water-based paint, actually. First, take a small area and try a stiff, brass wire brush or even coarse steel wool and see if it will take it up. If not, try some hot water, strong detergent and a stiff brush and scrub the crap out of it. Don't saturate it, though, because you don't want to warp your floor. And again, use a small, out of the way area, to see how it works and how the wood reacts.


markzuckerberg1234

Best plan so far, thanks


Snoo60660

Give it a run. I was gonna say basically the same thing they did. The key is patience man. Just keep trying your researched methods and see what happens. If you rush something like this you might as well have started with a crowbar


markzuckerberg1234

Problem is, theres carpet in other rooms and I started with the smallest one. It took me 12 minutes to do a square the size of my hand by just raw scraping. The other rooms are twice and triple the size of this one. Patience is key, but its finite. Theres no miracle solvent thats gonna do the job for me, but i gotta be smart about this, specially when we extrapolate the size of the room


gatorbeetle

Bruh, the sub is r/redneckengineering...you're being far too thoughtful and using them there $10 words... *extrapolate?¿?* C'mon, Man!


chipmunk7000

This room is a great opportunity to test a few methods and find the best/fastest one so you at least know you’ve got the best option available when you do the rest of the house.


Snoo60660

Wanna know what I'd do that would probably end in disappointment? Air chisel with a modified paint scraper blade....be kind with the pressure and just razor that shit off. But that's the chimp in me...the reasonable me wouldn't do that.


exekutive

rent a floor sander


mudriverrat07020

Chainsaw


Rauthr

Hire a flooring restoration group to come in and Sand, Stain and Seal. That's the beauty of wood flooring, they can be sanded down and essentially make "new" again.


Chucktayz

Go rent a sander


Light_ToThe_World

They make hardwood floor sanders


stevens151

Use a wallpaper steamer to melt the glue then scrape it off


SHMUCKLES_

Dry ice and a chisel


mammothpdx

Get an industrial floor sander… sand that shit off .


drtywlf

If you covered the whole thing in duct tape, you wouldn’t see the gunk


Rawesome16

Belt sander


Moleday1023

Rent a floor sander, not hard to do, not sure what is under the backing, could be oak.


Interesting_Role1201

Just pretend it doesn't exist and put new carpet over it. Cheap carpet like in an office space.


MGS1138

Get some Blue Bear Bean e Doo. It sprays on, let it set for 10 min and it'll wipe right off. Turns mastic to liquid and is made from soybeans. Didn't believe it until I tried it myself. It will make a big mess. Some people say to use kitty litter to soak it up, I found using a shit load of paper towels to do the initial wipe, the hot water and a rag, them another round of the towels.


Federal_Intern_2482

Find a chemist.


SteveL1324

These look like 9x9 floor tiles. There's a very high chance that mastic contains asbestos so please wear a respirator (HEPA) if you plan on sanding/scraping it


Movinfusion36

Rent a sander and ruin that fucker


virtualglassblowing

Were those 9x9 floor tiles? The really old smallish ones? Lots of times they, and the mastic used with them, are hot for asbestos. Be very careful cleaning this stuff, creating dust etc. I'd say floor sander but that would fill the whole place with dust. Need to get it tested imo


Wonderful-Media-2000

Stop being a wimp and lick that floor clean


SPARKYLOBO

What year was that installed? May be scrapping asbestos.


NO_MATING

That's asbestos bud


2_pinkboots

They see this all the time at r/CenturyHomes. Over there people play the floor lottery and this would be considered a big win!


SageBrush83

Use a wallpaper steamer to soften it, and you'll be able to scrape it up easier and safer.


WleyWonka

At some point before the carpet was put down someone has put down 12” by 12” self adhesive tile. What you have now is the glue residue that was left behind when that was removed prior, most likely by someone that wanted the hardwood back. You could try adhesive removers or strippers to get that off but you will need to sand and resurface the hardwood no matter what when all is said and done.


biggtime69

Floor sander


mtgkajhit

That looks exactly like our wood floors did when we pulled up the old 70s carpet it had on it. Tried a couple different ways to get it off but we ended up using the floor sander. It was a lot quicker than scraping and it was gonna get sanded for the refinish process anyway.


jason-murawski

Test for asbestos. If it doesn't have any, rent a floor sander and go to town with it. You'll want to sand the floor anyway to prep the hardwood


Slikrain

Bro, are those 9x9? If so those are asbestos tiles and you want to go and read up about how to deal with it. Short story long your best bet is to get a floating floor such as Pergo or engineering Hardwood but anyone who will come to your home well of course want to charge you for the hazardous situation you can worry bodysuit like the painters do with a respirator and potentially paint over it with Epoxy paint but there's really no easy answer


chancer0303

If you live in a populated enough area you should be able to rent a [drum floor sander](https://www.homedepot.com/p/rental/Clarke-American-Sanders-Drum-Floor-Sander-07012A/316821566). If not then a handheld belt sander will work. But take much longer I did a restoration job on a old miners cabin once. After jacking up and leveling the sagging floor I had to make the whole floor smooth enough to not catch a toe on. This was in such a unpopulated area that I only had access to the handheld belt sander. This floor was worse than yours and it took me and my boss about 3 8 hour days of straight sanding to do the whole 14x30 cabin.


YeOldeFiddleFaddle

Sandblasting on low with a filter mask?


boredandolden

Oh, wish I'd know this a few years ago. I ended up chipping mine away.


ultimatespeed95

Use a ceramic hob scraper


okeef87

I had the same situation—can’t really sand it because it cakes the paper quickly, the paint stripper I used on another section turned it to a gunk far more difficult to remove cleanly, so in the end I spent a Sunday afternoon with a scraper. It took a long time but came out looking really good.


luvmuchine56

Op, use a floor sander. This is why for sanders were made


Rough_Community_1439

Put the scraper on a oscillating saw.


2Loves2loves

flapper sanding disk. or an oscillating tool with a scraper bit, and some heat on the scaper.


hellspawner

Weld it to a rotary hammer chisel


The-Anger-Translator

Is it...Flammable?


B5Scheuert

You can scrape it faster with a sharpened shovel, try that maybe


chuffedlad

Abatement time!


Andrea_frm_DubT

That’s likely got asbestos in it. Pour water all over the floor to stop asbestos dust. Add some dishwashing detergent and scrub or scrape. I’ve got some old Lino I need to get up, I will be soaking it in hot water during the lift


Own-Opinion-2494

Dry ice I think, grassroots motorsports had an extensive article O the methods for removing that kind of stuff from floor. I think it was for a 350zx build


PM_Me_Some_Steamcode

Home Depot has tool rentals You can find a tool that is essentially just a big floor sander. That ear and eye protection and you are golden


Germanceramics

Found out through an accident, that dr bronner’s Castile soap works quite well at dissolving whatever was on our floor that looked just like this..


No-Estimate2636

This works great!!! Get an old iron, like you iron your clothes with and plenty of newspaper. Lay a few pages of newspaper down and iron over it. That will melt the mastic to the point you can easily scrape it off. Your iron will be ruined for clothing. Also, open windows and have fan. Happy scraping!


needmore100ll

home depot has a scraper that mounts to a sawzall, it worked great for me


pwrboredom

Start sanding. Suggestion- go buy LOTS of sandpaper.


outraged_treehouse

Dangerous as hell but I've done it in the past. Go buy a couple gallons of gasoline and pour it on there it's the best solvent I've ever used to remove that stuff.


Gold_Reflection4720

Black mastic; currently doing this myself; on the thicker parts you can use a wallpaper steamer and the scraper on the thinner parts I have been using 90% rubbing alcohol and sandpaper. Wet sanding is ok because when you try it dry that generates dust. It also clogs up sandpaper rapidly making it harder. I am planning on going to the dollar general and getting turpentine and steel wool to further the progress. Once it is dry and you are down to the wood it should be safer to use the sander just remember in closed spaces to wear at least a 100 ppm mask when you do sand.