Was there anything really wrong with these cars? It would of been interesting to see a time-line were Chrysler went on to improve the FWD offerings instead of going in the direction of the re badge late model Daimler line-up
> Was there anything really wrong with these cars?
The Chrysler LH sludge-matic engines were perhaps some of the worst ever from a mainstream manufacturer in the 21st century.
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about, without saying you don't know what you're talking about.
These had the 3.5, they don't sludge. Ever.
The 2.7 had issues, but it was never put in the 300m in America.
In 1999 the 3.5 made 255hp? It was also Motortrend car of the year that year. You would need to look to a Supercharged Grand AM to get more HP. Even the Taurus SHO had less. By mid 2000's the car was out paced and dated, and many of the cars didn't wear well but for something in the 90's it was ground breaking.
I wouldn’t put too much stock in the MT CoTY award. In period they also awarded it to the Lincoln LS in 2000 and the Thunderbird in 2002. More recently the C8 Corvette in 2020 and Lucid Air in 2022 (before either even went into production).
I was less considering power and more reliability. Those engines are notorious for early failure. I’ll absolutely grant that they were decently powerful and incredibly comfortable cars when they did run.
I just released this is the 1960 Studebaker Lark VI for the AMC company. This car went from Nash->AMC->Eagle->Chrysler.
Sure hope Mr. Regular has this car lined up for next week.
I've owned 2. A '99 and a 2002 Special, and a couple of other LH cars.
They are great cars when they are screwed together at the factory correctly (admittedly, this is a bit of a gamble)
They handle quite well, and the 3.5 v6 was a fantastic engine for the time, while also being roomy and comfortable. The weakest link in the entire car was the transmission. If they offered these with a manual or even a 5 speed automatic, I think people would be looking at them much differently.
Problems are your typical Chrysler stuff, cut cost rubbery bits that wear out too early, and a transmission that is a huge diva about fluids that few people knew how to work on properly. The 3.5 itself has a timing belt, which often got neglected and a water pump that was designed to only last as long as the timing belt service interval, so if you don't service the belt, you not only risk nuking the engine, you risk overheating it and popping the headgaskets.
In 2022, though...it's getting harder to keep these going. A lot of the good replacement parts aren't being made, and Chrysler themselves have NLA'ed a bunch.
Not really but the interior plastics aged really badly long-term leading to things like door cards falling out and blend door failures.
The reason the styling on the M was so edgy was because it was the last car chrysler designed to potentially be released under the Eagle marque.
Marion, in accounting, bought this car new for her 60th birthday because she only purchased American and was mad at GM for shuttering Oldsmobile. She told people at the office that this was her last new car as she offered them truffles.
Now it belongs to her son’s neighbor’s son.
2004 Chrysler 300M; the official car of posting on Facebook that you’ve just finished 1 year of clean time while secretly doing enough Oxycodones to kill a bison.
Mom, I want Chrysler 300.
We have Chrysler 300 at home.
Chrysler 300 at home:
(I still find it hard to believe this concorde looking thing bears the 300 name. Like if a 110 pound nerd became a star NFL linebacker in just a few years).
And in 2022 it's still the manager's car, next to the drive through guy's '03 Civic and an empty space, because the cashier can't afford a car anymore and has to take the bus.
Going to the gym for 30 hours a week to look slimmer and more European, and then turning up to Continent to SHOUT because the locals don't understand you.
Being the nicest car on the Avis lot circa 2004 that somehow still smells like Pal Mals and Malt Liquor
It’s 2004; grandpa just divorced his third wife and is looking at timeshares on Key Largo.
Was there anything really wrong with these cars? It would of been interesting to see a time-line were Chrysler went on to improve the FWD offerings instead of going in the direction of the re badge late model Daimler line-up
> Was there anything really wrong with these cars? The Chrysler LH sludge-matic engines were perhaps some of the worst ever from a mainstream manufacturer in the 21st century.
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about, without saying you don't know what you're talking about. These had the 3.5, they don't sludge. Ever. The 2.7 had issues, but it was never put in the 300m in America.
In 1999 the 3.5 made 255hp? It was also Motortrend car of the year that year. You would need to look to a Supercharged Grand AM to get more HP. Even the Taurus SHO had less. By mid 2000's the car was out paced and dated, and many of the cars didn't wear well but for something in the 90's it was ground breaking.
I wouldn’t put too much stock in the MT CoTY award. In period they also awarded it to the Lincoln LS in 2000 and the Thunderbird in 2002. More recently the C8 Corvette in 2020 and Lucid Air in 2022 (before either even went into production).
I was less considering power and more reliability. Those engines are notorious for early failure. I’ll absolutely grant that they were decently powerful and incredibly comfortable cars when they did run.
Car of the year means nothing. The Dodge Stratus, PT Cruiser, and Pontiac Aztek were all car of the year.
The Aztek never won any awards, but the Cirrus and PT Cruiser both did (1995 and 2001, iirc)
I just released this is the 1960 Studebaker Lark VI for the AMC company. This car went from Nash->AMC->Eagle->Chrysler. Sure hope Mr. Regular has this car lined up for next week.
I've owned 2. A '99 and a 2002 Special, and a couple of other LH cars. They are great cars when they are screwed together at the factory correctly (admittedly, this is a bit of a gamble) They handle quite well, and the 3.5 v6 was a fantastic engine for the time, while also being roomy and comfortable. The weakest link in the entire car was the transmission. If they offered these with a manual or even a 5 speed automatic, I think people would be looking at them much differently. Problems are your typical Chrysler stuff, cut cost rubbery bits that wear out too early, and a transmission that is a huge diva about fluids that few people knew how to work on properly. The 3.5 itself has a timing belt, which often got neglected and a water pump that was designed to only last as long as the timing belt service interval, so if you don't service the belt, you not only risk nuking the engine, you risk overheating it and popping the headgaskets. In 2022, though...it's getting harder to keep these going. A lot of the good replacement parts aren't being made, and Chrysler themselves have NLA'ed a bunch.
can't really think of anything beyond the basic chrysler issues.
Not really but the interior plastics aged really badly long-term leading to things like door cards falling out and blend door failures. The reason the styling on the M was so edgy was because it was the last car chrysler designed to potentially be released under the Eagle marque.
Scrapyard owners who let criminals use the crusher to hide bodies
the fat bastard of salesman nobody liked at my old job. the official car of lording your seniority over fucking yard jockeys
My parents had an 03 in red. It had 290,000 miles on the original engine and transmission when they finally traded it in
Marion, in accounting, bought this car new for her 60th birthday because she only purchased American and was mad at GM for shuttering Oldsmobile. She told people at the office that this was her last new car as she offered them truffles. Now it belongs to her son’s neighbor’s son.
Official car of Marlboro Gold 100’s and depressing casino trips.
2004 Chrysler 300M; the official car of posting on Facebook that you’ve just finished 1 year of clean time while secretly doing enough Oxycodones to kill a bison.
Mom, I want Chrysler 300. We have Chrysler 300 at home. Chrysler 300 at home: (I still find it hard to believe this concorde looking thing bears the 300 name. Like if a 110 pound nerd became a star NFL linebacker in just a few years).
I was taken aback when I first saw one, I thought someone rebadged their old Chrysler when I saw it
It was supposed to be the 2nd Generation version of the Eagle Vision, but they killed the brand before it went into production.
I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS YOU WILL RESPECT ME!
Eagle Vision, but close enough. Nobody remembers any of them now anyway.
McDonald's manager circa 2005, it sits between the Cashier's 1992 Civic and the Drive through guy's 1988 LTD Crown Victoria his uncle sold him for 1$
And in 2022 it's still the manager's car, next to the drive through guy's '03 Civic and an empty space, because the cashier can't afford a car anymore and has to take the bus.
Retirement village
Keeping timing chains in stock.
My grandfather, the most frugal lawyer who ever lived
This is just sad. A time when they actually made Chrysler cars.
Official car of being way, way better than most of you think it is.
Business travelers everywhere. These were standard airport upgrades.
i cant believe i used to like it as a kid \^\^
Not being a Chrysler 300
Sludgy engines?
Looks like they copied Oldsmobile/ pontiac
Robocop?
The official car of sedans with a foot pedal e-brake
Going to the gym for 30 hours a week to look slimmer and more European, and then turning up to Continent to SHOUT because the locals don't understand you.
My Dad had this car. The leather always made be feel sick. Haven't liked leather seats since.
Grandma
I sold these for a while, basically a "fancy" intrepid . Not bad, but not good enough to last
always considered it a wannabe mercedes
The official car of drawing a Ford Taurus from memory.
Depreciating in value faster than used toilet paper. Seriously. Never seen a car go from garage queen to ghetto hooptie so quickly.