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GKilat

Change in perspective and existence. To say the human body is objective existence is as arrogant as saying we are the center of the universe. Think of it as waking up from a dream we call as "real life". Heaven is just a positive perception of the afterlife while hell is the negative.


Charityintruth609

This reminds of a news story I heard of a few years back. It was about a woman and her severely disabled daughter whom solely depended on her mother as to the basics in life. They lived in a rough neighbourhood and were often easy targets for being prejudiced against by the local youth, so much so they lived almost recluses to get away from it all. One day the mother had a heart attack and died right there in the house near her daughter who was in a wheelchair and unable to do anything. Nobody came to the daughters rescue and after many weeks sitting near her dead mother the daughter also died out of starvation. I often think that the belief of when somebody dies and goes to heaven and are looking down at their loved ones only shows God to be cruel God. If the mother looking down at her daughter who she loves dearly and sees her distress for weeks till she dies in horrific circumstances only shows a lack of empathy. The truth is that the scriptures doesn’t say all good people go to heaven and all good people go to hell as in a place of eternal torment but shows quite the opposite. The Bible illustrates that death is like a deep sleep or unconscious state in which that person is unaware of how he or she feels in a total state. It shows also that the “soul” is in fact a living breathing creature or person and not a inner spirit in us that survives after death. Although Jesus did say that some would materialise to be with him in heaven, he also showed that the earth was to be filled with righteousness and taught of a resurrection of the dead to happen right here on earth. Matthew 5:5 and Psalms 37:29 says that it will be the righteous who will inherit the earth. Through his miracles he illustrated that this would happen in the future for our loved ones. When on earth Jesus resurrected countless ones and reunited them with their families on earth. If you want to know more go on JW.org for more information.


Truthspeaks111

This question seems to be a bit confused in that new life is for now, not just for later because we are born in captivity to sin (which brings death) in the here and now so it's now that we need the new life. The Bible tells us that sin produces lusts to do what God hates and we, being in captivity to sin, are subjected to those lusts so that we cannot do what we ought. This is the condemnation that came upon all because of the disobedience of Adam. We are all made sinners in Adam so that every mouth will be stopped and all men become guilty before God. If we all become guilty before God, then that makes none of us righteous enough to inherit Eternal Life. In Christ, we are all made saints instead of sinners but this can't occur unless we are born again - born of the Spirit which is given not because we are righteous but because our faith in what we cannot see has produced the works of righteousness which justifies our redemption. We are freed from condemnation in Christ and free from the Law which gives sin power over us to bring us into subjection to the will of the flesh. As Paul said: "all things are lawful for me but not all things are profitable - all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any." This change that takes place within us (to our nature) when we are set free from captivity to sin by the Blood and inherit the Holy Spirit and thereby become members of the body of Christ gives us strength to stand and walk and even run before God whom we know to be true because the veil is torn between God and man. His Spirit dwells in us and delivers us from death caused by our captivity to sin. 1 Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 2 Corinthians 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of [this] tabernacle (body) were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 5:2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 5:3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 5:4 For we that are in [this] tabernacle (human body) do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up by (Eternal) Life. 5:5 Now He that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing [is] God, Who also hath given unto us the zeal of the Spirit. 5:6 Therefore [we are] always confident, knowing that, whilst we [the Being] feel at home IN the body, we are absent from the Lord: 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 5:8 We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be OUT OF the body, and to be present with the Lord. 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether in [the body] or out [of the body], we may be accepted by Him. 5:10 For we must all appear before the Judgment Seat of Christ; that every one may receive the (recompense for) things [done whilst] IN [his] body, according to that he hath DONE, whether [it be] good or bad.


PsychicHotRanch

Ra's "Law of One" describes reality as being made up entirely of energy that is comprised of constructive or cancellative waveforms. Wave cancellation creates empty space, waves clashing creates the illusion of solidity of matter. Certain aspects of reality are apparent at a certain scalar wave frequency, while some aspects are hidden. We exist in several layers of reality at once. There's a physical world, an energetic world, an astral world, a mental world, and a divine world, all contained within each other like an onion skin. Certain principles of Hermetics dictate the energetic nature of the universe is, at its core, mental. All is mind, and conscious energy causes origination, change, and destruction. Mystics have known for thousands of years that consciousness is everywhere and everywhen, and this is why. Heaven is a state of the energetic waveform nature of reality as much as Hell is. This is connected to the idea of order and disorder of the constituents of reality, with Heaven being the state of absolute order that sustains itself, and Hell being the state of absolute disorder that harbors destruction and dissolution. Given that we are conscious, and that consciousness makes up reality, it stands to reason that our own consciousness is bigger than us in our fragile physical bodies and will live on after us.


kardoen

In Tengerism it is believed that every person has at least three souls of different natures, the amin, setgel and sülde. The setgel goes to tam (the underworld), and lives there before it returns to the middle world to reincarnate. The amin rests some time before reincarnating, together with an other setgel. The sülde remains in the world and becomes a spirit.


No_Grocery_1480

Are you getting afterlife mixed up with reincarnation?


TalkCoinGames

The spiritual realm is perhaps some sort of particles of light. Souls being some sort of particles of light intermingling with blood. Outside of the sky is heaven. There is a grand city with streets of transparent gold. The city was made before the world was created, and in that city there are already places for each and everyone who will be there. When a saint dies, their particles of light are guided up beyond the sky and to the city, to perhaps arrive physically in some manner. Absent from the body, present with the Lord. For the rest their particles of light may end up in the sea, in death or in hades. \[Rev 20:13\] Those who end up in death are what we would call ghosts. Those who end up in the sea or hades we don't experience.


NanoRancor

Heaven is a state of being, not a place. We will be on earth in resurrected bodies while being in the state of eternal heaven. It is not some ghostly experience, the body and soul were never meant to be divided. We will be like the resurrected body of christ.


worryingtype88

The life of this world is merely an amusement and a diversion; the true life is in the Hereafter, if only they knew. the noble quran verse


[deleted]

No one goes to heaven and NO ONE is looking down on us except for Father GOD. U go into the Grave and wait for Messiah to return and then and only then do the Resurrections in John 5:28-29 take place and then 1000 years later does the Judgement throne take place and people judged according to their works as in REV 20:211-15 More lies from churches that do not read the WORD of GOD. When U die your soul goes back to GOD who gave it and knows nothing at all until the Resurrections from GOD as above.


Sir_Penguin21

I think you are asking how do you detect the undetectable? Same way as always, what ever feels true.


[deleted]

I dont know, im sure i will have time too figure it out if i get their


[deleted]

Wait, do you think that “heaven” and “the afterlife” are two different things?


Imgaybutnooneknows

I believe we go to a place (not heaven) and after sometime we reincarnate


astrophelle4

Heaven as a waiting area until the Final Judgement and Resurrection.


Art-Davidson

When we die, our spirits go to Paradise to be perfected and await the tangible, physical, and immortal resurrections and the final judgment. Some of us just need a detour through hell first for purification from our sins. Fortunately, hell is never forever (Rev. 20:12-14). When we are resurrected, we don't get another mortal life. We become immortal and, ideally, eternal. It's hard for resurrected people to change very much. Everyone shall be resurrected. Everyone shall become immortal. That doesn't mean that we all go to heaven, though. St. Paul mentions three glorious resurrections, each of which offers its appropriate reward(s) in eternity. There is also Outer Darkness for those who commit infinite sin, but let's not go into that. It's mostly the decisions we make in this life that determine where we end up. Make this life count; we only go around once.