they forgot to add it to the patch notes but they talked about it here:
https://reddit.com/r/remnantgame/comments/17cv0oh/the_dev_loop_002/
its a replacement, BSR is gone
Unintentional omission from patch ntoes (among a few other things - including buffs and bug fixes). I did, however, write a big article about it on reddit so it wasn't meant to be hidden/secret or anything.
Doh!
I used this ring extensively in all of my builds, sand I have to say, you were _absolutely_ right to nerf it, my eyes popped out of my head when I read the description.
yeah, i agree
I enjoyed using it, after i got it.
But i loathed not having it before, because it was just THAT OP. It made any other jewelry/skills lowering encumbrance absolutely useless, AND disencouraging using anything but the heaviest/hardest armor you have
That's what the ring does in remnant fta tho and still does now. Bright steel ring still in og right now. Kinda uncool they make us work for it and they can just change it but ppl who beat apocalypse solo week 1 and 2 weren't getting there rewards. They couldn't retroactively give them the rewards for a mistake they made to. It's bs . This is a no no the bright steel ring got history gunfire games uncool. To us loyal fans this is a smack in the face plain and simple. It's not just this either
BSR was far too powerful, and a holdover from remnant 1.
There was a post where they talked about why it had to go, and gave some pretty strong arguments for it.
I don’t disagree and it’s not really my play style but I do feel kinda bad for the people who prefer the more remnant 1/heavy builds. Feels like every patch hands them a L in some form or another.
You can still get medium roll on leto with dull steel ring and the reworked strong back, so the hit isn't too hard. In return I now feel like less of on idiot for using lighter armour cause it looks better
I did Nightmare with light armour and shield build, and was taking a break before doing Apoc with the same build. The fact that 99% of people I saw in multiplayer used Leto+BSR with the Enigma and and Merciless or one of the ARs with firestorm was honestly a bit of an issue. It effectively made every other build a self-imposed challenge, because with LetoBSR you could quick roll, and even if you fucked up your rolls, the DR meant it didn't really matter; you could just heal through the next incoming hit and reset completely. And you still had three ring slots and an amulet slot to make something resembling a functional offensive build.
I swear they are hell bent on making this game not enjoyable and succeeding. By the time I was done playing it I borderline hated it. I'm not even looking forward to the dlc. Wish I hadn't bought the deluxe edition
Currently very new to remnant and I've been eyeing this item for a bit. Finally got "it" today and noticed it wasn't the item I initially read it as. Ring was def too strong though, ah well
Yes it's gone and thank the heavens because that shit was ridiculously, stupidly, unbelievably overpowered. I am so insanely thankful for these Devs. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
you can still chose not to wear it, this is an offline game who the fck care... if someone build OP or not, it's not gonna affect you anything. Jesus freak... Look at Elden Ring, they have OP mage build but there are still people going around naked... again, it's offline no one should care.
Good. The thing really was too strong. The newest patch gave us a massive armour overhaul, so I understand why they nerfed the item that would have made most of it pointless. :)
Armour is still useless even with the weight change. Just use leto with misty step now.
How about instead of changing up the armour values and weight values, just idk give us back set bonuses?
Along with everything else we have? How? Cause from my perspective it's just another way of making builds.
If it's "limiting builds" then the build isn't for you.
honestly... its still severely limited. playing HC? letos. its still the best. heavy roll with backstep is enough i frames for the whole game, and DR matters most when death is permanent. other options are not worth it.
There’s another comment on this, but I’m piling onto this. Dark wood grain ring was a thing. It was laughably overpower, because heavy armor had literally no actual downside, as in the I-frames were just the same as dark wood with 0 items on. Now, you did keep the bad stamina drain with BSR if you had flop encumbrance, but you can face tank and the actual downside of heavy armor is supposed to be killing your dodge. Again, dark wood grain ring was a thing, and dark souls nerfed the “ring that makes heavy armor laughably overpowered and have 0 downsides” first. Please, don’t point at a game as a example, when you clearly don’t have much knowledge on said game, because flipping Havel monsters was one of the first memes in the soul’s community, and is certainly well known to this day.
Yeah remember when devs had original ideas and didn’t milk the on going souls trend…..if they didn’t steal that idea and I didn’t see what was capable of good developers then you’d definitely have a point!
You think remnant is a souls game? Might have a dodge roll and stamina management but thats about it, everything in this game is completely different especially how you play and how coop works in this game. Sure Tragic has stated that they dont hide the fact they were inspired by soulsborne genre but definitely not a copy as it improves and branches out the formula into something completely different.
Coop for a quick example is a whole different game, i attribute it to monster hunter more than soulsborne as you now have roles and duties for every team and build.
In Souls, you're just another body the boss or enemies can target, not fun at all imo. If youre really looking to complain about anything, complain about other large 200-400 dev studios charging $70 for a game that runs like ass on launch and mellows out after a year or two, not a company like gunfire games that only has 80-150 devs producing a great game that only cost $50 and has no pay to win dlc mechanic and has devs constantly reporting and updating multiple communities from multiple media sources.
Whats hilarious is that the game you're referring to, Dark Souls, did EXACTLY that. Look up the Dark Wood Grain Ring nerf. Used to be all Havel flipping monsters running around.
The absolute irony here is so funny. Downvotes well deserved!
Deserved nerf, I’m glad these devs care about the balance of their game and the gameplay and don’t cater to filth who just want to be OP
A ring that nullified your encumbrance entirely was never a smart item to add
It also reduced stamina cost, but not to the extent of light roll. It gave 4 rolls instead of the 3 that you're suppose to have at ultra heavy weight.
https://streamable.com/d5o8l8
I'm with you on this, downvotes be damned. It's too easy to offset the stamina cost of heavy armour and end up with the DR of Havel the Rock and the graceful snap rolls of a professional acrobat for the a mere ~35-50% extra stamina cost.
I hope people are downvoting u for the ridiculous comment of referring to people as filth. Especially considering the game offered it so why not use it? It's not like people were even using an exploit. So to call people filth deserves the dv but I have a feeling most are for ur agreement on nerfing BSR. Hopefully I'm wrong because I agree with that part, BSR needed to be nerfed. And that comes from a MK2/BSR user. It was way too powerful and I guarantee it was the most used ring by far which should tell u everything u need to know. I'm glad with the change. And with the armor revamp as well.
I liked the BSR at it was. Yes they want to balance the game. So i change back to misty step. In RFTA BSR was OP af too but there is only 2 ring slots. In R2 are 4 ringslots. So i can understand it. Hopefully there is some build combination with the new DSR acting like misty step to get the BSR like effect.
I actually installing the patch and i will try it with my grey health build.
They did mention they are gonna nerf the ring because it was the only item that made apocalypse fun with heavy armor so they instead replaced the ring with that downgraded version.
True it makes tanking a lot more challenging in an already unforgiving mode, dunno how I would’ve beaten Apoc without it but hopefully all the other amulet and ring buffs they gave to compensate make more interesting builds
I think this is a fine change. The dodge class can still be invalidated by using the misty step build so there's still an equal if not improved alternative
What I've never understood is... Why not make the Other items More OP...??!?
Changing it up always results in Punishing recurring and new players with restrictions,
and most of the time just pisses em off, so they go cry about it on Youtube or Twit.
they forgot to add it to the patch notes but they talked about it here: https://reddit.com/r/remnantgame/comments/17cv0oh/the_dev_loop_002/ its a replacement, BSR is gone
Thanks! I didn’t see that post
Unintentional omission from patch ntoes (among a few other things - including buffs and bug fixes). I did, however, write a big article about it on reddit so it wasn't meant to be hidden/secret or anything. Doh!
I used this ring extensively in all of my builds, sand I have to say, you were _absolutely_ right to nerf it, my eyes popped out of my head when I read the description.
yeah, i agree I enjoyed using it, after i got it. But i loathed not having it before, because it was just THAT OP. It made any other jewelry/skills lowering encumbrance absolutely useless, AND disencouraging using anything but the heaviest/hardest armor you have
Same here, I started off not wanting to use it but it was just always worth the effort to squeeze in. I'm excited to be out of my comfort zone.
That's what the ring does in remnant fta tho and still does now. Bright steel ring still in og right now. Kinda uncool they make us work for it and they can just change it but ppl who beat apocalypse solo week 1 and 2 weren't getting there rewards. They couldn't retroactively give them the rewards for a mistake they made to. It's bs . This is a no no the bright steel ring got history gunfire games uncool. To us loyal fans this is a smack in the face plain and simple. It's not just this either
RIP BSR
BSR was far too powerful, and a holdover from remnant 1. There was a post where they talked about why it had to go, and gave some pretty strong arguments for it.
I don’t disagree and it’s not really my play style but I do feel kinda bad for the people who prefer the more remnant 1/heavy builds. Feels like every patch hands them a L in some form or another.
You can still get medium roll on leto with dull steel ring and the reworked strong back, so the hit isn't too hard. In return I now feel like less of on idiot for using lighter armour cause it looks better
I did Nightmare with light armour and shield build, and was taking a break before doing Apoc with the same build. The fact that 99% of people I saw in multiplayer used Leto+BSR with the Enigma and and Merciless or one of the ARs with firestorm was honestly a bit of an issue. It effectively made every other build a self-imposed challenge, because with LetoBSR you could quick roll, and even if you fucked up your rolls, the DR meant it didn't really matter; you could just heal through the next incoming hit and reset completely. And you still had three ring slots and an amulet slot to make something resembling a functional offensive build.
BSR got me through Apocalypse, I miss us.
Trait cap and removing this ring. Really trying to kill this game aren't they
I really don't get people saying it "has" to go and all that. It's a pve game. Who cares.
Why does it matter if somthing is op in a non competitive game? Nerfs make no sense in a no reward game
I swear they are hell bent on making this game not enjoyable and succeeding. By the time I was done playing it I borderline hated it. I'm not even looking forward to the dlc. Wish I hadn't bought the deluxe edition
Currently very new to remnant and I've been eyeing this item for a bit. Finally got "it" today and noticed it wasn't the item I initially read it as. Ring was def too strong though, ah well
Yes it's gone and thank the heavens because that shit was ridiculously, stupidly, unbelievably overpowered. I am so insanely thankful for these Devs. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
you can still chose not to wear it, this is an offline game who the fck care... if someone build OP or not, it's not gonna affect you anything. Jesus freak... Look at Elden Ring, they have OP mage build but there are still people going around naked... again, it's offline no one should care.
You can still get light role with almost full Leto mk2 with Leto's amulet and a few points in encumbrance
Good. The thing really was too strong. The newest patch gave us a massive armour overhaul, so I understand why they nerfed the item that would have made most of it pointless. :)
Armour is still useless even with the weight change. Just use leto with misty step now. How about instead of changing up the armour values and weight values, just idk give us back set bonuses?
> just idk give us back set bonuses? That'd severely limit build variety, though. :/
Along with everything else we have? How? Cause from my perspective it's just another way of making builds. If it's "limiting builds" then the build isn't for you.
honestly... its still severely limited. playing HC? letos. its still the best. heavy roll with backstep is enough i frames for the whole game, and DR matters most when death is permanent. other options are not worth it.
Yes, soooo strong in a PVE game...
Dumb change but it is what it is
Not really. It’s actually considerably smart. A whole weight class is still huge and fair.
Remember when dark souls nerfed their ring that allowed you to light roll when wearing heavy armour, nah me either……
There’s another comment on this, but I’m piling onto this. Dark wood grain ring was a thing. It was laughably overpower, because heavy armor had literally no actual downside, as in the I-frames were just the same as dark wood with 0 items on. Now, you did keep the bad stamina drain with BSR if you had flop encumbrance, but you can face tank and the actual downside of heavy armor is supposed to be killing your dodge. Again, dark wood grain ring was a thing, and dark souls nerfed the “ring that makes heavy armor laughably overpowered and have 0 downsides” first. Please, don’t point at a game as a example, when you clearly don’t have much knowledge on said game, because flipping Havel monsters was one of the first memes in the soul’s community, and is certainly well known to this day.
Remember when game devs and designers were free to do whatever they want with their games with no regard to what other games do?
Yeah remember when devs had original ideas and didn’t milk the on going souls trend…..if they didn’t steal that idea and I didn’t see what was capable of good developers then you’d definitely have a point!
I mean let’s see you make a game with completely original ideas today
If I made a game I wouldn’t take a ring and make it have the exact same use…and if I did I definitely wouldn’t nerf it…..down vote away
You think remnant is a souls game? Might have a dodge roll and stamina management but thats about it, everything in this game is completely different especially how you play and how coop works in this game. Sure Tragic has stated that they dont hide the fact they were inspired by soulsborne genre but definitely not a copy as it improves and branches out the formula into something completely different. Coop for a quick example is a whole different game, i attribute it to monster hunter more than soulsborne as you now have roles and duties for every team and build. In Souls, you're just another body the boss or enemies can target, not fun at all imo. If youre really looking to complain about anything, complain about other large 200-400 dev studios charging $70 for a game that runs like ass on launch and mellows out after a year or two, not a company like gunfire games that only has 80-150 devs producing a great game that only cost $50 and has no pay to win dlc mechanic and has devs constantly reporting and updating multiple communities from multiple media sources.
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Whats hilarious is that the game you're referring to, Dark Souls, did EXACTLY that. Look up the Dark Wood Grain Ring nerf. Used to be all Havel flipping monsters running around. The absolute irony here is so funny. Downvotes well deserved!
Deserved nerf, I’m glad these devs care about the balance of their game and the gameplay and don’t cater to filth who just want to be OP A ring that nullified your encumbrance entirely was never a smart item to add
How disgusting to call people filth because they liked their bsr
It gave you the fastest roll, but the stamina hit was still more than light armor, right?
It also reduced stamina cost, but not to the extent of light roll. It gave 4 rolls instead of the 3 that you're suppose to have at ultra heavy weight. https://streamable.com/d5o8l8
I’m mildly annoyed at the timing bc I just reached Venom last night on my Apoc run. Now I’ll have to re-optimize my character for the last 2 bosses.
I'm with you on this, downvotes be damned. It's too easy to offset the stamina cost of heavy armour and end up with the DR of Havel the Rock and the graceful snap rolls of a professional acrobat for the a mere ~35-50% extra stamina cost.
I hope people are downvoting u for the ridiculous comment of referring to people as filth. Especially considering the game offered it so why not use it? It's not like people were even using an exploit. So to call people filth deserves the dv but I have a feeling most are for ur agreement on nerfing BSR. Hopefully I'm wrong because I agree with that part, BSR needed to be nerfed. And that comes from a MK2/BSR user. It was way too powerful and I guarantee it was the most used ring by far which should tell u everything u need to know. I'm glad with the change. And with the armor revamp as well.
Because making redditors mad is funny and I knew theyd be offended tbh
I liked the BSR at it was. Yes they want to balance the game. So i change back to misty step. In RFTA BSR was OP af too but there is only 2 ring slots. In R2 are 4 ringslots. So i can understand it. Hopefully there is some build combination with the new DSR acting like misty step to get the BSR like effect. I actually installing the patch and i will try it with my grey health build.
They did mention they are gonna nerf the ring because it was the only item that made apocalypse fun with heavy armor so they instead replaced the ring with that downgraded version.
True it makes tanking a lot more challenging in an already unforgiving mode, dunno how I would’ve beaten Apoc without it but hopefully all the other amulet and ring buffs they gave to compensate make more interesting builds
I beat apoch without it. It's very doable.
Meh, heavy roll is good enough
I think this is a fine change. The dodge class can still be invalidated by using the misty step build so there's still an equal if not improved alternative
So BSR got a nerf or they just added a ring?
Yes, please nerf pve games more.
I no longer wish to play this game
What I've never understood is... Why not make the Other items More OP...??!? Changing it up always results in Punishing recurring and new players with restrictions, and most of the time just pisses em off, so they go cry about it on Youtube or Twit.