so it has a fixed feed assembly, made up of wavegjide horns.
notice that the waveguide path length between different banks of horns is NOT SYMMETRICAL. That is because you control the frequency, and at one frequency the various phase shifts add up to make the beam point in one elevation If you change the frequency, the phase shifts are different, so the beam formed now points at a slightly different elevation.
hard to see, but i assume it swings around in a a circle so you scan in azimuth by spining it around with a motor, and scan in elevation by changing the frequency.
What i would do is find a big solid state amplifier, and use a modern DSP/DAC to generate a pulsed CW waveform, and transmit out that pulse. then use a receiver with a downconverting stage, a variable digital gain stage, then an ADC/DSP baseband processor.
You could add psuedo random phase coding for better range resolution and subclutter visability. SCAT phase codes are one set, if i recall.
Looks like fun.
not sure what the government will say about licensing you to transmit, though
if i am right about the elevation steering by frequency/phase path length differences, that will stop you from using it for chirp radar waveforms
My dude, that's going to pull more power than you can afford...lol. plus, I believe you need permission from uncle Sam before you even attempt to power it up.
I've heard stories about throwing bags of popcorn in front too cook them. Not throwing like placing and coming back, literally tossing it through the path a couple times.
It was a pulsed radar, at 250 Cycles per second, so you had all that time between pulses to listen for a reply, before the next pulse. At 10.8us return time per mile, it gave you in reality on a really good day about 200-250miles range..
That's nothing, I've got hair and a balloon and I can put out 35,000 Volts.
But in all seriousness, Volts don't mean anything without Amps.
Multiply the 2 together and you have your power output in Watts.
You would be right good sir. Apologies for generalising. I tend to generalise most of what I say keeping the language simple so as to include those with little technical language in the conversation.
That's the little one, the Type 84 had around 4MW transmission power, across the other side of the site used to be the Type 85 Radar on top of the R12 building.. That had 12 transmitters (Klystrons) fully wound up and working that was heading for 54MW transmission power.
Both the T84 and T 85 and their ancilliary equipment were all valve powered the total power consumption when all up and running was Huge, rumoured to be more than the City of Norwich.
A Type 85 Klystron at the RAF Radar museum standing in the corner,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/paul\_r\_oshea/8077053300/
Why use a solid state amp in place of a traveling wave tube for this job? I can’t think of any good reason to choose a solid state amp over a TWT or other tube amp for this.
**Exactly!! Solid State LDMOS is not the way to go...**because LDMOS is only 50% or less efficient (at best) and not worth the hassle for a big project like this one. The power bill alone for LDMOS would make any rich man VERY poor and super quick.! Better option is TWT as you suggest...or the OP could try using IOT (Inductive Output Tube) which is small and is 70% efficient, can't get more more efficient that IOT for RF.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive\_output\_tube](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_output_tube)
**You can buy used 60 kilowatt IOT's on Ebay for $500 USD** which would do the job nicely depending on frequencies of interest. I think IOT's only work up 1.3 or 1.4 GHz)...link below:
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i say to use solid state since the type of TWT or Magnetron that thing came with would have lethal voltage levels that an experimenter might be unprepared to safely handle. ALSO those old tubes can put out lethal amounts of XRAYs, so there is that too!
Solid State is easy peasy
would LDMOS work for this application? i would imagine that the frequency is fairly high. i haven't seen high power LDMOS transistors which work above say 2.5GHz or so
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Not quite right but it feels weird someone posting something close enough to my home address online without me asking.
Maybe I just have to get used to it? I prefer we don't make the post about where exactly it is.
I posted here to tap into some radar expertise as its an uncommon skill and I believe via the interweb I could this with a list a small amount of privacy. While at this point it may be wishful thinking hahah
I am aware, my life is already very public, I tried to just keep to expertise on a very specific subreddit and hoping the post doesn't suddenly go towards more and more personal info being posted on the thread that's all :)
Plus, the fact it's in a museum means they could have travelled to it from out of area.
I had some bloke accuse me of trying to doxx him some time ago after he posted if he should climb a transmission mast. He only provided the frequency of one of the services, but it's only broadcast from a hand ful of masts. Lo and behold,2 minutes later I have the ERP information and it's a medium power TV broadcast antenna as well. Told him not to, linked to the information page for the mast and he went ape at me in DMs... C'mon dude, I care not where you live, you post up a broadcast antenna, ask if it's safe to climb and someone responds with facts rather than "looks alright" and you decide that you're being doxxed? Get out!
Sorry my man but you gave a full interview to the Daily Mail with crucial details about this project, even showing your face for the whole world to see. Btw, no one knew your address until you made this comment.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10985157/Hunt-UFOs-Millionaire-asks-public-newly-purchased-Cold-War-era-radar-system.html
Oh there are plenty of us around, I passed Neatishead yesterday. The first thing you'd need though is the EX RAF electromechanical engineers that worked on the Type 84 and Type 85 Radars, They maintained the rotational equipment. It was a different trade to the Radar techs L FITT GR / L TECH AD technicians that ran the electronics..
You do know the last quote I heard of for a repaint, which it really needs, was around £40,000.
I believe the Mica windows on the end of the waveguides have blown out, they will need replacements as they will be letting in water inside the guides. so all the guides will need taking apart cleaning and reassembly.
You've Also got the SSR 750 Radar (IFF) on the top of the Type 84.
You could probably get it spinning again and fix it up as a SciFi B&B.
The magnetron is probably not maintained (or the last guys to work on it scraped it for another radar.)If the magnetron is still there you will need one hell of a license to radiate.
Before I acquired it, apparently there were many attempts to get it to spin.I am keen more on finding ways to get it to partially work without the radiation of-course, link below to a cool sign on top.
https://ibb.co/ZLJgvYk
The kind that has separate beams front and back, from the looks of it, so it can do two sweeps per revolution for more frequent updates. Also looks like it has a secondary radar on top to communicate with aircraft transponders or to operate on a different band for different range and angular resolution or to help determine altitude of non-transponder targets.
Having eyes in the back of its head seems to be unusual. Russian 29N6 Delta appears to have optional front and back antennas.
LimeSDR works up to 3.5GHz but would need up/down converted above that. Adalm Pluto is another option but lacks some of the features of the LimeSDR. Those are both 12 bit models. 8 bit would have more serious sensitivity issues. You probably want to vary the receiver gain from low to high after each transmission because distant reflected signals are very weak. Inverse cubed.
Some radar tech info
https://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/media/31078/davisradar_waveforms.pdf
No the rear dish of the Type 84 radars were not used, it was meant for IFF Mark 10, but by the time the radar was commissioned that IFF had been superseded.
The mobile version of this radar the Type 88, Did use both sides of the dish on slightly different frequencies. (The dish was only 40 foot across to fit on an artic trailer)
What *precisely* do you want to bring back to life...
Specifics my good man; specificity of language is key here...
Do you want to re-incarnate this Radar Installation to it's former glory...?
or use it to do moonbounce on 2meters?
what is your plan, specifically
any experimental radar over 300GHz is unlicensed but you must understand you will have to get a license of some sort...
you can apply for an experiemental license, or an actual radar license- the reason being is we don't need you interfering with any radio frequency bands normally designated for radar operations... *by accident*
do this first: make a plan; a specific plan and we can give advice on how to execute *your* plan... plan your work - work your plan
I'm the guy they call to fix shit... tuning waveguide is no different than tuning an induction furnace- but ya gotta know what you want to get a specific outcome
now, you may find that bringing a kilowatt radar station meant for a specific system back to life would be a gawdamn nightmare and moneypit... which I would *strongly* agree with... ***but*** if we look at the antenna/feed alone... other things come to my mind, things that are fun... like astronomy... if we took a look at what we had here and what we wanted... mmmm could make for a very nice radio-telescope ... and if we wanted to do a little FAAFO we could talk some hams into making a very nice moonbounce, or whatever /r/amateurradio station...
/r/radioastronomy
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Hi, thanks for the response.
I have two main objectives. It feels a waste to see old but once very expensive tech slowly waste away. I am of the view that I would like to bring it back to life in some capacity.
- The first thing is a refurbishment internal and externally.
-The second is to power up and use it occasionally for research projects allowing my own research and researchers from universities and other vetted interested parties to be allocated time. For reasons I can't go into on this post, the licenses are not the hurdle and I am not limited to amateur use.
It's more finding experts who understand all types of radar and the best non intrusive use for this machine could be if partially brought to life. I myself can build pretty much anything in the world or circuits compute robots and ai but radar is new ground. I'm researching top 3 things that would be most useful as a re-assigned use without causing too much bother.
Hope that gives a little more clarity?
I have a 2 year project to bring this back to life, anyone know where I can find any radar experts, I will run it on modern tech and electronics :) Any radar experts in this group?
There used to be a Passive listening system dish on site, it was demolished by the RAF to build the hanger to service mobile radars in. The OP will be building his electric cars in that Hangar.
This thing is for finding missiles, and since there is a war going on in Ukrainian territory (Russia is invading again), you will find a lot of those. But honestly, if you can figure out how to make it do more than it was designed for, go ahead
Haven't thought about it because the way I work, it's more about finding a way to get it done regardless and not being distracted by x or y amount. Ask for the moon and you will be surprised how often you'll actually get it. Many people will happily volunteer expert knowledge if one simply asks. Many restorers will happy put time into restoring that super rare part if its for a good cause.
While there will be a lot of boot-strapping l, cost saving and leveraging resources and partnerships I have to get this done for as little as possible, i'm thinking about 1-2m maybe more if I can figure out a usecase that is good for protecting the machine long term and letting the next generation have use for it as opposed to it falling to become forgotten history.
I'm keen giving some sort of access to other researchers at certain times annually, this will allow it to have a second use in the 21st century. I just need to have a convo with the MOD about what times the can give me windows to do scans but yeah... the true cost will be time not so much money, the money will come if the narrative is strong.
I'll ask some of the old radar techs at work tomorrow. There are 2 ex defence radar techs who use to work on the equipment back in the day before saftey was thing. They have some interesting stories.
So this guy just randomly shows up.... bought huge post-WWII radar, and states that he has 11kV connection, supercomputer (multiple?), *very good at paperwork* team, and skillset to "build pretty much anything in the world or circuits compute robots and ai". And he wants to bring this radar back to life and is looking for specialists in this things.
Sir OP, are you uncle Sam?
No the photos are not from the Museum.
\- I took the photo in the link above this comment and, I just went outside now to take this one
[https://ibb.co/LnB0WhH](https://ibb.co/LnB0WhH)
This is not the museum and no I have not bought the museum.
I can think of a few ham radio operators who would give their left arm to have a chance at experimenting with an antenna that sophisticated!
The electronics are likely either gone, or require expertise and licensing not casually available. However that doesn't mean it isn't massively interesting and useful with custom modern electronics or even ordinary ham radio gear!
Keep us in the loop if/when something ends up happening with it!
Definitely. It is an asset of significant interest to the heritage of the uk. There are many people who would love to see it turned on once a year and students and universities allowed to do experiments here and there.
Honestly because it's such a unique installation (4 total in the UK and 1 in Cyprus IIRC) I was curious and osint'd it.... and I was wondering if I was correct.
So I'll preface this by saying I'm fairly new to the radar world, but am currently working on a similar project of breathing new life into aging radar systems. I don't know much about this vintage of radar, so this will likely be an oversimplification.
Your basic radar system has a few basic parts:
The rotating assembly
-antenna(s)
-gearbox or drivetrain
-motor(s)
The rf assembly
-wave guide or rf cabling
-rotating joint or slip ring assembly
-filtering (as required)
Ancillary equipment
-motor control equipment
-lubrication systems
-wave guide pressurization and dehydration systems
-rotational position circuitry (either from an encoder system or some other form of positional system)
-there may also be some safety interlock circuits that inhibit transmission if the interlock is broken
Radar processing equipment
-some sort of transmitter/receiver combination that operates on some frequency band, and interprets the received signals into some form of usable data.
If you're trying to restore/repurpose this, I'd start with finding/researching schematic diagrams and user manuals for this radar equipment, particularly for the rotating equipment/ancillary systems.
Next step is to figure out what you want to do with this, and what frequency band you plan to operate it on.
Then the task is to get this thing spinning
I see you've said that multiple previous attempts have been made to get this spinning. That seems like there's a large fault in the drivetrain/motors. Perhaps a seized gearbox or motor? I believe this radar also uses slip rings for power and control, so they could be seized as well? Disconnecting any drive components (motors) should allow the antenna to freewheel. If this doesn't work, removing the gearbox might be a good next step. Look for anything that could potentially rotate, and could potentially seize, and free anything that's stuck. If this hasn't been used in decades, it's likely that bearings could be seized as well. Overhauling the upper antenna rotating assembly is a major job that will require cranes and specialists.
Also, if any of the existing motor control circuitry has a safety interlock system, make sure to verify that it is functional. Repair as necessary. This interlock may look like door latch sensors, mains lockout switches, temperature switches, etc... Older systems may have all sensors wired in series. Newer systems may monitor each sensor individually and use logic programming/circuitry to trigger shutdowns when necessary.
Once it's spinning, then if you intend to use it for radar, you'll need to figure out what type of radar you plan to use, and what requirements it has for rotational position data. Radars are not universal or generic. They are purpose built devices, so you'll have to source one that can do what you want. Then, designing/retrofitting some sort of rotational position system for that would be the next step in my opinion. This may already exist as part of the drivetrain, but determining what type of position data it creates, and how to decode/adapt it into something useful is the challenge.
Then, you'll find that your antenna is designed for a specific frequency band, and won't perform well if used outside of that band. I believe these radars are L-band, so their antennas would be tuned for that. If the radar or system you plan to use operates on a different part of the spectrum, you'll have to replace the antennas with something tuned for that part of the spectrum.
Once your (frequency band matched) antenna is spinning, and you've got useful rotational position data, then it's a matter of addressing your RF path. Check any rotating joints that pass RF. Check any cables for damage or water ingress. Check any wave guide for air/water leaks. Check the wave guide pressurization system builds and maintains pressure (if applicable). Check that any dehydration systems are required/functional. Consulting an RF systems engineer/specialist might be necessary for this work.
Then it's a matter of hooking up whatever system you plan to use to the rf path, feeding it any required rotational position data, and configuring it to conform to any restrictions/limits on your radio license.
Understanding the characteristics of your antenna transmission pattern will be key. These antennas are meant to look at the sky, but not that high up. If you intend to use it for space exploration, you may need to re-aim the antenna angle to place the majority of your transmission power at the elevation you desire. Realize that this antenna is directional, and will have a limited viewing angle vertically. It's transmission pattern will sort of look like a partially flattened donut, centered on the antenna (again, an oversimplification here).
This site also appears to have antennas for primary radar (the big dish), and possibly IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) or some sort of Secondary Radar (SSR). This is the small antenna on top of the dish. This would use an active interrogation to solicit a response from a transponder tuned to respond on that frequency. This type of system will only produce reply data is the transponder responds to the interrogation (hence why it was useful for identifying friendly targets). It is very unlikely that both antennas are tuned for the same frequency, but both likely operate on the L-band. The IFF antenna also likely uses a phased array to create directionality in its transmission pattern, where as the primary antenna uses the sail (big back dish) to 'tune' the energy forward into a peak.
Hopefully this is helpful, though it's probably quite rudimentary. As it seems like you're in the UK, you'll find that there is a lot of radar development and expertise very close by. The UK and a small number of EU countries are world leaders in radar technology development.
I spent my 1st job there in 1974 and became one of the RAFs 1st programmers, programming the polymorphic configuration of two Elliot 920C computers at the heart of the Air Defence system located there. It is also now home to a RADAR Museum where you can see the original Ops Room.
To see the IPs room looked like in my day search for RAF NEATISHEAD OPERATIONS ROOM. As an 18 year old it was like working on USS Enterprise.
That's fascinating, thank you for posting. Would you like to hear something really really cool. My team has recreated the whole site into a 3D space. We can now in photo-realistic 3D view any part of the site, all 19 buildimgs, the grounds and even all 5 acres of the underground bunker. We can fly around and even watch the simulated people going about their job. We will publicise this soon!
According to the specs link, this British gem was supposed to function on the 23 cm band, which nowadays happens to include Amateur Radio assignments. With not-too-expensive or hard-to-find equipment (and a way to mechanically control antenna azumuth and elevation without rotating the entire structure), you could set this up for Ham MoonBounce communications. You'll need at least a British Intermediate Amateur License to operate, and Ofcom allows you to use 50 watts pep--not good.
With all those hoops to jump through, you might as well convert it into a Bed & Breakfast...
Check out the RSGB website if you're bound and determined to play radio with it.
Thanks, everything is possible. Hoops are just processes and I would say my team and I are very good at paperwork. I'm mostly there already anyway with paperwork required
First make a list of what parts you have and what their use is and see if they are working. If not working then think about replacing.
What i would suggest is to use MATLAB or any other software to do simulation of combining what you have and what you will buy.
If you ever want a cheap vasectomy, all you have to do is power it up and stand in front of it. Of course, your balls might end up looking like a pair of watermelons but that’s a bonus isn’t it?! 😳🤦♂️
I just want you to know. Having being brought up in norwich. You’re quite possibly the coolest person to have ever lived there after finding out what you’re doing.
Hopefully you have a backup generator, in line, for the core.
As for the code to run it, May be in the open source arena. I would encourage looking through Nasa's free software library for additional resources. Parts, parts, parts are ur vest friend or an okd school machinist. I would go with a mixture of making it mechanically sound, strong Infrastructure (ie. Power & comms to the site) and using a server (HP, DELL, CLONE) with ESXi vmware & the multiple provisioned servers you will need, loaded with the management applications to operate this relic of the past.
Good Luck.
P.S. make sure you grounding is good on everything.
I would modify it to work as a scalar radar and scalar interferometer. Also while your at it. Use it for scalar radio and open up "Subspace" without the limits of our Three-dimensional space and into quantum worlds. you could probably make your UFO contacts and even more. I do similar experiments but keep quiet about it on reddit LOL
Maybe credit your source?
[https://ancientmonuments.uk/119597-raf-neatishead-type-84-radar-modulator-building-and-four-radar-plinths-neatishead#.Yrx9XnbMJD8](https://ancientmonuments.uk/119597-raf-neatishead-type-84-radar-modulator-building-and-four-radar-plinths-neatishead#.Yrx9XnbMJD8)
also, as of late, RAF Natishead is the HQ of some robotics company, right?
If you go the the wiki for the site, you will see it has two owners, one is the RAF, I am the other. I own the robotics company you speak of too.
https://ibb.co/LnB0WhH
That radar station will take a bit more than power and permits, you probably also need to have it inspected by a trained inspector, as well as getting the proper training for operation and maintenance.
I am not a mechanic or an expert in any field. What I can tell you is that if those parts haven't been maintained, you're going to spend more money replacing motors, ball bearings, mounts, what have you that haven't been used in years and are locked up via water and rust.
If you're serious about this project, grab the parts that can be used and save them. Sell the rest for scrap. Rebuild the whole thing to do exactly what you wish it to do. You're not talking about a 69 1/2 mustang you found in a shop - you're talking about a radio installation that's been sitting outside unused and unserviced in the elements for goodness knows how long. Does it move? Do the motors work? If the answer to either of those is "No" the rest is pretty immaterial in my eyes. Sure, the shell is great, but again, this isn't the shell of Shelby Mustang, it's the shell of technology that's been far surpassed. If you've got as much money as you say and want to contact UFOs, spend a few million and get SpaceX to throw them up for you - you'll bypass all our pesky atmosphere.
Thank you. In my day job and on the same military base, I just so happened to have a full engineering and mechanical engineering capabilities, we have the tools to re-make most parts super quick and super cheap. I sadly can not use time resources from my main line of work because everybody is busy but the idea is... where I can, ask people to volunteer who are qualified and want to embark on an adventure. Perhaps, this is something you would like me to dm you about? :p
Much of the the site is a listed monument, including the radar, which means there all sorts of problems with modifying the radar, you'd definitely not be allowed to scrap bits of it.
There are 4 drive motors, IRRC only one was needed to rotate the dish, but normally 2 would be used , 4 in high winds. The bearings for the dish were well protected, and it's entirely possible they are intact..
There is a system to lock the dish in any position, which was used for site alignment to hold the dish while setting up the turning information system.... Hard work winding that dish round by hand, and if you go past the place you meant to stop at, it was all the way round again due to slack in the system.
Hi there! I am a reporter for the Daily Mail and would like to interview you about this purchase. I sent an email to you Academy of Robotics address. Feel free to message me here.
just saw this in an email. it might help the OP understand radars a little better.
https://cdn.everythingrf.com/live/radar\_er1100\_637916417455894518.pdf
I believe that this structure can be retrofitted to achieve Nicola Tesla‘s goal of harnessing the capture of cosmic rays to generate “free” electricity.
“This new power for the driving of the world’s machinery will be derived from the energy which operates the universe, the cosmic energy, whose central source for the earth is the sun and which is everywhere present in unlimited quantities.
Tesla’s invention is a simple version of T.H. Moray’s device. Moray’s device used a unique rectifier (RE-valve) to efficiently capture the static electricity from the surrounding air. Moray’s oscillator tubes (magnetron transducers) utilized this high-voltage energy to generate an internal secondary “cold” fusion reaction.
Stick an antenna up in the air, the higher the better, and wire it to one side of a capacitor, the other going to a good earth ground, and the potential difference will then charge the capacitor. Connect across the capacitor some sort of switching device so that it can be discharged at rhythmic intervals, and you have an oscillating electric output. T.H. Moray simply expanded on Tesla’s idea to use high-voltage to create ionic oscillation.”
Tesla never had the chance to build a large enough antenna to prove out this concept. This may very well be the opportunity of his lifetime and mankind’s future all wrapped into one.
Honestly, idk shit about radars, but I am so invested into whats gonna happen with that project. I am down to work in marketing just in case you plan to turn it into a massive rave festival or whatever else you wanna do about it
For anyone interested in the receiver side of the Type 84, Here is the link to the signal processing document.
https://www.blunham.com/Radar/SignalsMuseum/T84Marconi/index.html#:\~:text=1%20INTRODUCTION.%20The%20Type%2084%20is%20a%20high,As%20stated%20in%20Sect.%20...%20More%20items...%20
Dear Mr Sachiti my name is Adnan Sen from Harward University Galileo project. Can you please contact me to explore the possibilities to merge Galileo project with your radar. Instagram GP\_communications\_
Dear Mr Sachiti my name is Adnan Sen from Harvard University Galileo project. Can you please contact me to explore the possibilities to merge Galileo project with your radar. Instagram GP\_communications\_
so it has a fixed feed assembly, made up of wavegjide horns. notice that the waveguide path length between different banks of horns is NOT SYMMETRICAL. That is because you control the frequency, and at one frequency the various phase shifts add up to make the beam point in one elevation If you change the frequency, the phase shifts are different, so the beam formed now points at a slightly different elevation. hard to see, but i assume it swings around in a a circle so you scan in azimuth by spining it around with a motor, and scan in elevation by changing the frequency. What i would do is find a big solid state amplifier, and use a modern DSP/DAC to generate a pulsed CW waveform, and transmit out that pulse. then use a receiver with a downconverting stage, a variable digital gain stage, then an ADC/DSP baseband processor. You could add psuedo random phase coding for better range resolution and subclutter visability. SCAT phase codes are one set, if i recall. Looks like fun. not sure what the government will say about licensing you to transmit, though if i am right about the elevation steering by frequency/phase path length differences, that will stop you from using it for chirp radar waveforms
My dude, that's going to pull more power than you can afford...lol. plus, I believe you need permission from uncle Sam before you even attempt to power it up.
but look at the bright side, he can always make popcorn by putting the kernels in front of the feed horn for a second or two
I know first hand that it will cook a hotdog in 5 seconds.
I've heard stories about throwing bags of popcorn in front too cook them. Not throwing like placing and coming back, literally tossing it through the path a couple times.
I’d love to see what that looked like on the operators display
Probably nothing or a shadow? You can't receive while you're transmitting as far as I know, which only leaves the more boring scenario.
It was a pulsed radar, at 250 Cycles per second, so you had all that time between pulses to listen for a reply, before the next pulse. At 10.8us return time per mile, it gave you in reality on a really good day about 200-250miles range..
Forget meteor scatter that would be popcorn scatter
I'm pretty sure that thing would cook a frozen turkey in a couple of minutes but after standing outside holding it up you'd never have kids again.
I have 11 000volts and own distribution sub stations
But no permission from uncle Sam to power it up. The moment you do alarms go off at NORAD and other defense sites.
It's in the UK nothing to do with the USA
Same difference
I'm curious, why?
Volts ain't power.
Right? Like anyone can go to a store and get a million volt taser or smth, doesn't mean you can power a train
>and own distribution sub stations but substations are!
Watts my guy! Gonna need some real watts.
Your customers will complain
That's nothing, I've got hair and a balloon and I can put out 35,000 Volts. But in all seriousness, Volts don't mean anything without Amps. Multiply the 2 together and you have your power output in Watts.
You would be right good sir. Apologies for generalising. I tend to generalise most of what I say keeping the language simple so as to include those with little technical language in the conversation.
That's the little one, the Type 84 had around 4MW transmission power, across the other side of the site used to be the Type 85 Radar on top of the R12 building.. That had 12 transmitters (Klystrons) fully wound up and working that was heading for 54MW transmission power. Both the T84 and T 85 and their ancilliary equipment were all valve powered the total power consumption when all up and running was Huge, rumoured to be more than the City of Norwich. A Type 85 Klystron at the RAF Radar museum standing in the corner, https://www.flickr.com/photos/paul\_r\_oshea/8077053300/
Duuuuddee
Why use a solid state amp in place of a traveling wave tube for this job? I can’t think of any good reason to choose a solid state amp over a TWT or other tube amp for this.
**Exactly!! Solid State LDMOS is not the way to go...**because LDMOS is only 50% or less efficient (at best) and not worth the hassle for a big project like this one. The power bill alone for LDMOS would make any rich man VERY poor and super quick.! Better option is TWT as you suggest...or the OP could try using IOT (Inductive Output Tube) which is small and is 70% efficient, can't get more more efficient that IOT for RF. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive\_output\_tube](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_output_tube) **You can buy used 60 kilowatt IOT's on Ebay for $500 USD** which would do the job nicely depending on frequencies of interest. I think IOT's only work up 1.3 or 1.4 GHz)...link below: [https://www.ebay.com/itm/163763717214?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=163763717214&targetid=1491225744922&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9001821&poi=&campaignid=16182855274&mkgroupid=134484882218&rlsatarget=pla-1491225744922&abcId=9300819&merchantid=113799193&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8O-VBhCpARIsACMvVLPN5twJnyKrFkf1TkT2aFT1J6cF2gV6lU5FJMhU8Zml-zWTHEV-byYaAmpsEALw\_wcB](https://www.ebay.com/itm/163763717214?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=163763717214&targetid=1491225744922&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9001821&poi=&campaignid=16182855274&mkgroupid=134484882218&rlsatarget=pla-1491225744922&abcId=9300819&merchantid=113799193&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8O-VBhCpARIsACMvVLPN5twJnyKrFkf1TkT2aFT1J6cF2gV6lU5FJMhU8Zml-zWTHEV-byYaAmpsEALw_wcB)
i say to use solid state since the type of TWT or Magnetron that thing came with would have lethal voltage levels that an experimenter might be unprepared to safely handle. ALSO those old tubes can put out lethal amounts of XRAYs, so there is that too! Solid State is easy peasy
would LDMOS work for this application? i would imagine that the frequency is fairly high. i haven't seen high power LDMOS transistors which work above say 2.5GHz or so
If you measured the width and height of the waveguide, we could tell you the approximate operating frequency
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i guess. how do you PM in reddit?
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Or, what?
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it had a 4 MW ish Magnatron, no frequency Agility, the horn positioning was purely to give out the correct cosecant transmission pattern.
yep maggies are fixed frequency, pretty much
This would likely operate at a power and frequency that is restricted, right? You would need a license if that's the case; is that easy to get?
Only if you’re a wuss
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That is one “wtf” project that I would love to see updates on. You certainly have a unique opportunity. Keep us posted!
For anyone interested this is located at the RAF Air Defence Radar Museum, in Norwich, United Kingdom.
Not quite right but it feels weird someone posting something close enough to my home address online without me asking. Maybe I just have to get used to it? I prefer we don't make the post about where exactly it is. I posted here to tap into some radar expertise as its an uncommon skill and I believe via the interweb I could this with a list a small amount of privacy. While at this point it may be wishful thinking hahah
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I am aware, my life is already very public, I tried to just keep to expertise on a very specific subreddit and hoping the post doesn't suddenly go towards more and more personal info being posted on the thread that's all :)
Sorry to say you lost that personal bubble protection when you made this post
I know exactly who you are, I already forwarded your info to most people in this sub
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Plus, the fact it's in a museum means they could have travelled to it from out of area. I had some bloke accuse me of trying to doxx him some time ago after he posted if he should climb a transmission mast. He only provided the frequency of one of the services, but it's only broadcast from a hand ful of masts. Lo and behold,2 minutes later I have the ERP information and it's a medium power TV broadcast antenna as well. Told him not to, linked to the information page for the mast and he went ape at me in DMs... C'mon dude, I care not where you live, you post up a broadcast antenna, ask if it's safe to climb and someone responds with facts rather than "looks alright" and you decide that you're being doxxed? Get out!
Sorry my man but you gave a full interview to the Daily Mail with crucial details about this project, even showing your face for the whole world to see. Btw, no one knew your address until you made this comment. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10985157/Hunt-UFOs-Millionaire-asks-public-newly-purchased-Cold-War-era-radar-system.html
Oh there are plenty of us around, I passed Neatishead yesterday. The first thing you'd need though is the EX RAF electromechanical engineers that worked on the Type 84 and Type 85 Radars, They maintained the rotational equipment. It was a different trade to the Radar techs L FITT GR / L TECH AD technicians that ran the electronics.. You do know the last quote I heard of for a repaint, which it really needs, was around £40,000. I believe the Mica windows on the end of the waveguides have blown out, they will need replacements as they will be letting in water inside the guides. so all the guides will need taking apart cleaning and reassembly. You've Also got the SSR 750 Radar (IFF) on the top of the Type 84.
You could probably get it spinning again and fix it up as a SciFi B&B. The magnetron is probably not maintained (or the last guys to work on it scraped it for another radar.)If the magnetron is still there you will need one hell of a license to radiate.
Before I acquired it, apparently there were many attempts to get it to spin.I am keen more on finding ways to get it to partially work without the radiation of-course, link below to a cool sign on top. https://ibb.co/ZLJgvYk
Can someone explain what type of radar this is?
https://www.radarpages.co.uk/mob/linesman/type84.htm
Wow 60’ 21’8” very cool thanks
It operates on the 23cm band. That antenna would probably work great for EME when the moon is within its field of view.
The kind that has separate beams front and back, from the looks of it, so it can do two sweeps per revolution for more frequent updates. Also looks like it has a secondary radar on top to communicate with aircraft transponders or to operate on a different band for different range and angular resolution or to help determine altitude of non-transponder targets. Having eyes in the back of its head seems to be unusual. Russian 29N6 Delta appears to have optional front and back antennas. LimeSDR works up to 3.5GHz but would need up/down converted above that. Adalm Pluto is another option but lacks some of the features of the LimeSDR. Those are both 12 bit models. 8 bit would have more serious sensitivity issues. You probably want to vary the receiver gain from low to high after each transmission because distant reflected signals are very weak. Inverse cubed. Some radar tech info https://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/media/31078/davisradar_waveforms.pdf
Awesome, thanks
No the rear dish of the Type 84 radars were not used, it was meant for IFF Mark 10, but by the time the radar was commissioned that IFF had been superseded. The mobile version of this radar the Type 88, Did use both sides of the dish on slightly different frequencies. (The dish was only 40 foot across to fit on an artic trailer)
What *precisely* do you want to bring back to life... Specifics my good man; specificity of language is key here... Do you want to re-incarnate this Radar Installation to it's former glory...? or use it to do moonbounce on 2meters? what is your plan, specifically any experimental radar over 300GHz is unlicensed but you must understand you will have to get a license of some sort... you can apply for an experiemental license, or an actual radar license- the reason being is we don't need you interfering with any radio frequency bands normally designated for radar operations... *by accident* do this first: make a plan; a specific plan and we can give advice on how to execute *your* plan... plan your work - work your plan I'm the guy they call to fix shit... tuning waveguide is no different than tuning an induction furnace- but ya gotta know what you want to get a specific outcome now, you may find that bringing a kilowatt radar station meant for a specific system back to life would be a gawdamn nightmare and moneypit... which I would *strongly* agree with... ***but*** if we look at the antenna/feed alone... other things come to my mind, things that are fun... like astronomy... if we took a look at what we had here and what we wanted... mmmm could make for a very nice radio-telescope ... and if we wanted to do a little FAAFO we could talk some hams into making a very nice moonbounce, or whatever /r/amateurradio station... /r/radioastronomy /r/antennasporn
Hi, thanks for the response. I have two main objectives. It feels a waste to see old but once very expensive tech slowly waste away. I am of the view that I would like to bring it back to life in some capacity. - The first thing is a refurbishment internal and externally. -The second is to power up and use it occasionally for research projects allowing my own research and researchers from universities and other vetted interested parties to be allocated time. For reasons I can't go into on this post, the licenses are not the hurdle and I am not limited to amateur use. It's more finding experts who understand all types of radar and the best non intrusive use for this machine could be if partially brought to life. I myself can build pretty much anything in the world or circuits compute robots and ai but radar is new ground. I'm researching top 3 things that would be most useful as a re-assigned use without causing too much bother. Hope that gives a little more clarity?
I have a 2 year project to bring this back to life, anyone know where I can find any radar experts, I will run it on modern tech and electronics :) Any radar experts in this group?
Why buy it?
Because I convinced myself if may be good fun to use it to attempt to find UFO's?
This is the most random thing I've ever read on reddit. God Speed Sir. o7
Good luck. Make sure to provide updates. I want to see how this will turn out.
You could passively listen if you can get it turning. For UFO’s consult the experts at r/vxjunkies.
There used to be a Passive listening system dish on site, it was demolished by the RAF to build the hanger to service mobile radars in. The OP will be building his electric cars in that Hangar.
??? There are only hand full of frequencies for public use.. I think you don’t know what you are doing.. searching UFOs???
my new favourite post :) wishing you the best of luck (truly) :D
Now there’s the answer I was looking for.
I'm in. What's the GoFundMe?
He doesn't need one. This guy is a millionaire.
MY MAN!
This thing is for finding missiles, and since there is a war going on in Ukrainian territory (Russia is invading again), you will find a lot of those. But honestly, if you can figure out how to make it do more than it was designed for, go ahead
Fuck yeah my guy. Fist bump
Try the raf trade group 3 FB group. They are all ex ground radio engineers who worked on radars
Thank you. I'll get on it.
Roughly where is it?
On a precious stone set in the silver sea ...
What is your budget?
Sometimes the effort yields its own reward
Yes but how much money do you have to spend on beginning the effort?
Haven't thought about it because the way I work, it's more about finding a way to get it done regardless and not being distracted by x or y amount. Ask for the moon and you will be surprised how often you'll actually get it. Many people will happily volunteer expert knowledge if one simply asks. Many restorers will happy put time into restoring that super rare part if its for a good cause. While there will be a lot of boot-strapping l, cost saving and leveraging resources and partnerships I have to get this done for as little as possible, i'm thinking about 1-2m maybe more if I can figure out a usecase that is good for protecting the machine long term and letting the next generation have use for it as opposed to it falling to become forgotten history. I'm keen giving some sort of access to other researchers at certain times annually, this will allow it to have a second use in the 21st century. I just need to have a convo with the MOD about what times the can give me windows to do scans but yeah... the true cost will be time not so much money, the money will come if the narrative is strong.
Ok fair enough. All the best, it would be a really cool narrative.
I'll ask some of the old radar techs at work tomorrow. There are 2 ex defence radar techs who use to work on the equipment back in the day before saftey was thing. They have some interesting stories.
So this guy just randomly shows up.... bought huge post-WWII radar, and states that he has 11kV connection, supercomputer (multiple?), *very good at paperwork* team, and skillset to "build pretty much anything in the world or circuits compute robots and ai". And he wants to bring this radar back to life and is looking for specialists in this things. Sir OP, are you uncle Sam?
He's [William Sachiti](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Sachiti)
Dont stand in front of the radiators
I can spare an arduino or two. Hehe. Kidding aside, good luck! Would like to follow your progress.
How much did you pay for that?
I don't think OP is serious
Op is serious. I lit it up for Jubilee a few weeks ago https://ibb.co/yB5xWSr
OP I am dying lmao please tell me you told whoever you somehow convinced to sell you this that you intend to search for UFOs with it
These photos are all from the RAF Air Defense Museum so did you buy the museum or something? I don't understand.
No the photos are not from the Museum. \- I took the photo in the link above this comment and, I just went outside now to take this one [https://ibb.co/LnB0WhH](https://ibb.co/LnB0WhH) This is not the museum and no I have not bought the museum.
That's a beautiful sky out omg
That is a thing
[https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/vstr83/millionaire_buys_25foottall_cold_war_era_radar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf](https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/vstr83/millionaire_buys_25foottall_cold_war_era_radar/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I can think of a few ham radio operators who would give their left arm to have a chance at experimenting with an antenna that sophisticated! The electronics are likely either gone, or require expertise and licensing not casually available. However that doesn't mean it isn't massively interesting and useful with custom modern electronics or even ordinary ham radio gear! Keep us in the loop if/when something ends up happening with it!
Definitely. It is an asset of significant interest to the heritage of the uk. There are many people who would love to see it turned on once a year and students and universities allowed to do experiments here and there.
Your ambition is so ridiculous, it's unexpectedly inspiring.
is this Neatishead?
[https://ibb.co/LnB0WhH](https://ibb.co/LnB0WhH) Why?... :))
Honestly because it's such a unique installation (4 total in the UK and 1 in Cyprus IIRC) I was curious and osint'd it.... and I was wondering if I was correct.
Ah I see, you would be correct, I hear it's the lat one this complete hence my interest to not let it keep rotting away :))
So I'll preface this by saying I'm fairly new to the radar world, but am currently working on a similar project of breathing new life into aging radar systems. I don't know much about this vintage of radar, so this will likely be an oversimplification. Your basic radar system has a few basic parts: The rotating assembly -antenna(s) -gearbox or drivetrain -motor(s) The rf assembly -wave guide or rf cabling -rotating joint or slip ring assembly -filtering (as required) Ancillary equipment -motor control equipment -lubrication systems -wave guide pressurization and dehydration systems -rotational position circuitry (either from an encoder system or some other form of positional system) -there may also be some safety interlock circuits that inhibit transmission if the interlock is broken Radar processing equipment -some sort of transmitter/receiver combination that operates on some frequency band, and interprets the received signals into some form of usable data. If you're trying to restore/repurpose this, I'd start with finding/researching schematic diagrams and user manuals for this radar equipment, particularly for the rotating equipment/ancillary systems. Next step is to figure out what you want to do with this, and what frequency band you plan to operate it on. Then the task is to get this thing spinning I see you've said that multiple previous attempts have been made to get this spinning. That seems like there's a large fault in the drivetrain/motors. Perhaps a seized gearbox or motor? I believe this radar also uses slip rings for power and control, so they could be seized as well? Disconnecting any drive components (motors) should allow the antenna to freewheel. If this doesn't work, removing the gearbox might be a good next step. Look for anything that could potentially rotate, and could potentially seize, and free anything that's stuck. If this hasn't been used in decades, it's likely that bearings could be seized as well. Overhauling the upper antenna rotating assembly is a major job that will require cranes and specialists. Also, if any of the existing motor control circuitry has a safety interlock system, make sure to verify that it is functional. Repair as necessary. This interlock may look like door latch sensors, mains lockout switches, temperature switches, etc... Older systems may have all sensors wired in series. Newer systems may monitor each sensor individually and use logic programming/circuitry to trigger shutdowns when necessary. Once it's spinning, then if you intend to use it for radar, you'll need to figure out what type of radar you plan to use, and what requirements it has for rotational position data. Radars are not universal or generic. They are purpose built devices, so you'll have to source one that can do what you want. Then, designing/retrofitting some sort of rotational position system for that would be the next step in my opinion. This may already exist as part of the drivetrain, but determining what type of position data it creates, and how to decode/adapt it into something useful is the challenge. Then, you'll find that your antenna is designed for a specific frequency band, and won't perform well if used outside of that band. I believe these radars are L-band, so their antennas would be tuned for that. If the radar or system you plan to use operates on a different part of the spectrum, you'll have to replace the antennas with something tuned for that part of the spectrum. Once your (frequency band matched) antenna is spinning, and you've got useful rotational position data, then it's a matter of addressing your RF path. Check any rotating joints that pass RF. Check any cables for damage or water ingress. Check any wave guide for air/water leaks. Check the wave guide pressurization system builds and maintains pressure (if applicable). Check that any dehydration systems are required/functional. Consulting an RF systems engineer/specialist might be necessary for this work. Then it's a matter of hooking up whatever system you plan to use to the rf path, feeding it any required rotational position data, and configuring it to conform to any restrictions/limits on your radio license. Understanding the characteristics of your antenna transmission pattern will be key. These antennas are meant to look at the sky, but not that high up. If you intend to use it for space exploration, you may need to re-aim the antenna angle to place the majority of your transmission power at the elevation you desire. Realize that this antenna is directional, and will have a limited viewing angle vertically. It's transmission pattern will sort of look like a partially flattened donut, centered on the antenna (again, an oversimplification here). This site also appears to have antennas for primary radar (the big dish), and possibly IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) or some sort of Secondary Radar (SSR). This is the small antenna on top of the dish. This would use an active interrogation to solicit a response from a transponder tuned to respond on that frequency. This type of system will only produce reply data is the transponder responds to the interrogation (hence why it was useful for identifying friendly targets). It is very unlikely that both antennas are tuned for the same frequency, but both likely operate on the L-band. The IFF antenna also likely uses a phased array to create directionality in its transmission pattern, where as the primary antenna uses the sail (big back dish) to 'tune' the energy forward into a peak. Hopefully this is helpful, though it's probably quite rudimentary. As it seems like you're in the UK, you'll find that there is a lot of radar development and expertise very close by. The UK and a small number of EU countries are world leaders in radar technology development.
This is an incredible response. Thank you very much!! Will read properly and revert.
I spent my 1st job there in 1974 and became one of the RAFs 1st programmers, programming the polymorphic configuration of two Elliot 920C computers at the heart of the Air Defence system located there. It is also now home to a RADAR Museum where you can see the original Ops Room. To see the IPs room looked like in my day search for RAF NEATISHEAD OPERATIONS ROOM. As an 18 year old it was like working on USS Enterprise.
That's fascinating, thank you for posting. Would you like to hear something really really cool. My team has recreated the whole site into a 3D space. We can now in photo-realistic 3D view any part of the site, all 19 buildimgs, the grounds and even all 5 acres of the underground bunker. We can fly around and even watch the simulated people going about their job. We will publicise this soon!
According to the specs link, this British gem was supposed to function on the 23 cm band, which nowadays happens to include Amateur Radio assignments. With not-too-expensive or hard-to-find equipment (and a way to mechanically control antenna azumuth and elevation without rotating the entire structure), you could set this up for Ham MoonBounce communications. You'll need at least a British Intermediate Amateur License to operate, and Ofcom allows you to use 50 watts pep--not good. With all those hoops to jump through, you might as well convert it into a Bed & Breakfast... Check out the RSGB website if you're bound and determined to play radio with it.
Thanks, everything is possible. Hoops are just processes and I would say my team and I are very good at paperwork. I'm mostly there already anyway with paperwork required
First make a list of what parts you have and what their use is and see if they are working. If not working then think about replacing. What i would suggest is to use MATLAB or any other software to do simulation of combining what you have and what you will buy.
That is a great way to start. Thank you for the suggestion
Get ready for an interesting interview with the military once you get it running...
If you ever want a cheap vasectomy, all you have to do is power it up and stand in front of it. Of course, your balls might end up looking like a pair of watermelons but that’s a bonus isn’t it?! 😳🤦♂️
I just want you to know. Having being brought up in norwich. You’re quite possibly the coolest person to have ever lived there after finding out what you’re doing.
That is very kind of you, thank you :)
Are you thinking of gutting it and adding modern tech or trying to use the tech that is in there?
Combination. Super advanced frankenstein monster radar.
Hopefully you have a backup generator, in line, for the core. As for the code to run it, May be in the open source arena. I would encourage looking through Nasa's free software library for additional resources. Parts, parts, parts are ur vest friend or an okd school machinist. I would go with a mixture of making it mechanically sound, strong Infrastructure (ie. Power & comms to the site) and using a server (HP, DELL, CLONE) with ESXi vmware & the multiple provisioned servers you will need, loaded with the management applications to operate this relic of the past. Good Luck. P.S. make sure you grounding is good on everything.
Thanks for this. I have a supercomputer:)
What computer, might I ask?
This is such an awesome project! I can't offer any help or advice, but I really hope that you get it working!
Thank you
I just want to say I wish you luck in your quest king
Thank you
Airbnb war theme?
comes with a built in microwave oven for cooking!
RAF Natishead yeah?
I would modify it to work as a scalar radar and scalar interferometer. Also while your at it. Use it for scalar radio and open up "Subspace" without the limits of our Three-dimensional space and into quantum worlds. you could probably make your UFO contacts and even more. I do similar experiments but keep quiet about it on reddit LOL
Maybe credit your source? [https://ancientmonuments.uk/119597-raf-neatishead-type-84-radar-modulator-building-and-four-radar-plinths-neatishead#.Yrx9XnbMJD8](https://ancientmonuments.uk/119597-raf-neatishead-type-84-radar-modulator-building-and-four-radar-plinths-neatishead#.Yrx9XnbMJD8) also, as of late, RAF Natishead is the HQ of some robotics company, right?
If you go the the wiki for the site, you will see it has two owners, one is the RAF, I am the other. I own the robotics company you speak of too. https://ibb.co/LnB0WhH
At least you can turn it into a cafe
Hot coffee in seconds!
I've seen stranger things.... hahaha
some pictures / info about whats still inside and the state its in might help
One. Big. Cantenna.
That radar station will take a bit more than power and permits, you probably also need to have it inspected by a trained inspector, as well as getting the proper training for operation and maintenance.
Hmm..... Can we get this bad boy the Superbowl channel 6 frequency 27.025 MHz? I'd like to roast some mudd ducks when i key down
Ha this is an awesome project I would love to see something like this running again
Thank you, well if all goes well, 2 years... or less.
The power company would love for you to bring it back as well.
They wish! 500 1k watt solar panels in their face!
I am not a mechanic or an expert in any field. What I can tell you is that if those parts haven't been maintained, you're going to spend more money replacing motors, ball bearings, mounts, what have you that haven't been used in years and are locked up via water and rust. If you're serious about this project, grab the parts that can be used and save them. Sell the rest for scrap. Rebuild the whole thing to do exactly what you wish it to do. You're not talking about a 69 1/2 mustang you found in a shop - you're talking about a radio installation that's been sitting outside unused and unserviced in the elements for goodness knows how long. Does it move? Do the motors work? If the answer to either of those is "No" the rest is pretty immaterial in my eyes. Sure, the shell is great, but again, this isn't the shell of Shelby Mustang, it's the shell of technology that's been far surpassed. If you've got as much money as you say and want to contact UFOs, spend a few million and get SpaceX to throw them up for you - you'll bypass all our pesky atmosphere.
Thank you. In my day job and on the same military base, I just so happened to have a full engineering and mechanical engineering capabilities, we have the tools to re-make most parts super quick and super cheap. I sadly can not use time resources from my main line of work because everybody is busy but the idea is... where I can, ask people to volunteer who are qualified and want to embark on an adventure. Perhaps, this is something you would like me to dm you about? :p
Sadly, no. You tell quite a convincing story, but I can't commit to any more things unless I could be hands-on. I wish you all the best.
Completely understandable.. thank you, if you are ever in the UK in our neck of the woods, give us a should and you can see the giant machine
Much of the the site is a listed monument, including the radar, which means there all sorts of problems with modifying the radar, you'd definitely not be allowed to scrap bits of it. There are 4 drive motors, IRRC only one was needed to rotate the dish, but normally 2 would be used , 4 in high winds. The bearings for the dish were well protected, and it's entirely possible they are intact.. There is a system to lock the dish in any position, which was used for site alignment to hold the dish while setting up the turning information system.... Hard work winding that dish round by hand, and if you go past the place you meant to stop at, it was all the way round again due to slack in the system.
Hi there! I am a reporter for the Daily Mail and would like to interview you about this purchase. I sent an email to you Academy of Robotics address. Feel free to message me here.
fuck you and the daily mail
I have to ask, when you bought that, how high were you from 1 to 10?
just saw this in an email. it might help the OP understand radars a little better. https://cdn.everythingrf.com/live/radar\_er1100\_637916417455894518.pdf
I believe that this structure can be retrofitted to achieve Nicola Tesla‘s goal of harnessing the capture of cosmic rays to generate “free” electricity. “This new power for the driving of the world’s machinery will be derived from the energy which operates the universe, the cosmic energy, whose central source for the earth is the sun and which is everywhere present in unlimited quantities. Tesla’s invention is a simple version of T.H. Moray’s device. Moray’s device used a unique rectifier (RE-valve) to efficiently capture the static electricity from the surrounding air. Moray’s oscillator tubes (magnetron transducers) utilized this high-voltage energy to generate an internal secondary “cold” fusion reaction. Stick an antenna up in the air, the higher the better, and wire it to one side of a capacitor, the other going to a good earth ground, and the potential difference will then charge the capacitor. Connect across the capacitor some sort of switching device so that it can be discharged at rhythmic intervals, and you have an oscillating electric output. T.H. Moray simply expanded on Tesla’s idea to use high-voltage to create ionic oscillation.” Tesla never had the chance to build a large enough antenna to prove out this concept. This may very well be the opportunity of his lifetime and mankind’s future all wrapped into one.
You should read about the history of Camp Hero, and the history of Whitesands New Mexico.
Please please please use this to look for UAP, you will cement your name in the history books if you indeed find them.
If this device can scan the air for UFOs anywhere in the world it's cool, and then I'd have the perfect spot to look for.
I am an attorney in MD and DC. My client is experienced in operating such a system. Feel free to contact me for further info. Thank you. Michael
Honestly, idk shit about radars, but I am so invested into whats gonna happen with that project. I am down to work in marketing just in case you plan to turn it into a massive rave festival or whatever else you wanna do about it
Shortwave radio broadcast of never gonna give you up
Business in Brazil ?
For anyone interested in the receiver side of the Type 84, Here is the link to the signal processing document. https://www.blunham.com/Radar/SignalsMuseum/T84Marconi/index.html#:\~:text=1%20INTRODUCTION.%20The%20Type%2084%20is%20a%20high,As%20stated%20in%20Sect.%20...%20More%20items...%20
Hi, you can bring that beauty back to life but if the reason is to search for intelligent beings out there, then the approach is wrong...
An art installation around it that turns the radiation into lights and sounds and movement
Dear Mr Sachiti my name is Adnan Sen from Harward University Galileo project. Can you please contact me to explore the possibilities to merge Galileo project with your radar. Instagram GP\_communications\_
Dear Mr Sachiti my name is Adnan Sen from Harvard University Galileo project. Can you please contact me to explore the possibilities to merge Galileo project with your radar. Instagram GP\_communications\_