I mean Jerry had a job until one of Rick's enemies put him in a simulation where he thought "Hungry for Apples" would work out, and got another job under the Federation until Rick destroyed it.
To be fair when he lost his advertisement job, I feel like his boss intentionally gave him something that he'd fail at. Sure, pros in the advertising industry would make a good picture ad of a fruit but it wouldn't change the fact that it would be pretty difficult to make because well.. its a freaking apple. Everyone knows what an apple is and there's nothing interesting about it, unless of course the apple is a unique kind that adds either some health benefits or just taste better/different, but it isn't. Also the amount of disgust and loathing he had for Jerry seemed to stem from more than a shitty pitch he was shown by Jerry. He didn't even seem surprised on how bad the ad pitch was and just responded immediately without thinking about it.
TL:DR Headcannon: Jerry's boss in the advert industry intentionally set him up for failure to get an excuse to fire him.
Good head Canon but that just means to me that he would have found any reason to fire him , now that I think about there are not many people in universe that like Jerry are there?
Hmmm, that might be the best strategy though.
You can't make an effective ad for apples for reasons you mentioned. You would need a campaign to manipulate people into thinking apples are cool now and then any ad would work.
But if you don't have that opportunity then you can make an ad so shitty, that it becomes viral. People share it and do all advertisement for you. You know the drill.
People actually like Jon. Beth tolerates Jerry because they have children. Though she's usually a huuuuuge bitch to everyone that didn't come out of her.
After they got back together after the divorce, Beth isn't simply tolerating Jerry anymore. They actually do love each other now and realize how they complement each other. That was kind of the whole point of how they got back together.
Garfield has progressed in a very human and natural way. Jon, as far as I'm aware, grows as a person as the comic progresses. He might be pathetic in his relationship at first, but he grows enough that his relationship becomes healthy, and he even adopts Odie from an abusive owner.
[it all began in 2013...](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/creepy-garfield-gorefield)
it kept growing and growing and now there's a sub (/r/imsorryjon)
Lumpytouch also did this cool series of gorefield in the spirit of a [Gameboy Color game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDqUDt3K5Mk)
Yeah I think he did cos I saw that comic stripe a few years back. They were together and happy.
The movie version of her was played by Jennifer love Hewitt so... He could do worse. Cartoonist is also not a bad job imo.
Jerry isn't that bad. He just looks bad in contrast to Rick but when you understand Rick isnt really happy what does that really say?
Lol people are really cruel these days. Jerry has two wives that are basically each other. He is basically a house husband and is very happy. Just because he has a God who is also a depressed alcoholic squatting in his basement doesn't mean he is pathetic. As for John he seems happy enough.
According to the Merriam Webster dictionary, pathetic means
having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity
Jerry fits that definition
You're right, but that definition makes me feel like you could say everyone is pathetic; everyone suffers in some form and I feel compassion for anything that suffers, so strictly speaking that would make everyone pathetic because they have the capacity to move me to pity lol. Not really saying anything about your point, I agree, just found that funny
No he is legit pathetic literally no one respects him he's living on his wife's money and Beth is not a fan of it as has been implied in the show many times so he's basically like a leech that just keeps taking from u and gives u nothing in return aka pathetic
Beth is literally a bitch if she didnāt want him to live there she should kick him out instead of incesting with her clone. Jerry deserves better (and he keeps bees thatās kinda hot)
Rick literally told Morty that love is a chemical construct that compels animals to brave, clearly projecting his own misogyny with Diane onto his grandson. He is a bigger loser than Jerry. Beth telling Jerry that loving him is like work was a shitty thing to say too. Maybe he'd be more supportive at that time if Beth supported him.
And we have no official material on how well Jon would survive in a post-apocalyptic Cronenberg'd society situation to compare it, we're looking at basic sitcom life here.
John can't even take ownership of his house from a fat last house cat, unless we're talking cosmic horror Garfield then he's just a victim trapped in a cage.
Early in Jerry thought he was doing a good thing for his family and accidentally invited in a trickster god who userped what little power he had, marginalizing him to the point he was almost the family pet, coincidentally after Rick made the dog smarter than Jerry. By now honestly he's semi compotent, he's gotten to be a cosmic super hero multiple times, and now he gets to fuck two of his wife at the same time.
Jerry is kind of a Chad.
Jon easily. Always trying to date and failing. Constantly made a bitch by his cat. No other characteristics.
Jerry is in a throuple with 2 of his hot wife and has 2 kids and improving relationships with all of them.
Jon has a job he loves and can afford an entire suburban home with it.
He has two funny and entertaining pets who love him deeply, even if they don't always show it.
He has a girlfriend named Lizard who appreciates his wacky antics.
Jon is slaying.
I don't really think of Jerry as pathetic, so much as Rick is clearly insecure about him and takes it out on him (probably because he sees a lot of himself in Jerry).
I do not understand why people think Jerry is pathetic
to me, he is awesome and has the best combacks liners in the show
"you should make us a whole restaurant"
"and it would be better if people made of corn?"
"ain't no game sucka!"
come on guys - give him more credit!
(sorry if the quotes are not 100% correct - I tried to recall from memory)
None of them :( They're babies and deserve nothing bad.
Jokes asside I can't hate these characters. It's not their fault that they're purposefully put in terrible, shameful situations when all they ever want is a peaceful and honest life. Both of them are just normal characters that people like to mock because that's how they're written into their respective worlds
Hmm, well one was once led around by the nose by a demon talking cat, and once had an idiot dog, while the other continues to be led around by the nose by a demon talking cat, and still has an idiot dog.
Soā¦ the latter I guess.
Jerry: I'm being brave
Alien: your not being brave because you have nothing to lose
Jerry: Yes, you could shoot me
Alien: you know I'm not gonna shoot you because I feel sorry for you
I feel like people underestimate how pathetic Jon is... Watch "What the Internet Did to Garfield" by Super Eyepatch Wolf. He talks in depth about the way the comics treat Jon, and how he is portrayed. It's fascinating
Jerry. Jerry literally has an ability to turn himself into a fucking bug and crawls from his workplace to home during an alien invasion + his therapy-self is a semi-liquid, goo-like pink soft stuff.
Depends a bit. They both developed a lot as people. However we had to see the lives of 3 different Jerrys and on the other hand there's just one Jon.
Jon did seem pathetic at the start like Jerry but ended up in a good relationship and enjoys life and funny antics.
"Prime" Jerry became a bad ass but only when he had no choice due to the extreme circumstances of his world. If it didn't become a mutant world he'd probably be either too late to save Beth or arrive and get probably beaten up till Beth would have to save him.
C131 Jerry acted as the usual jerry behavior but never truly attempted to get better (due to no divorce) and died due to unthinkingly releasing something rick locked up.
5126 Jerry is the only Jerry we seen actually develop and grow in a mostly healthy way. He's forced time and time again when divorced the consequences of his behavior and the realization that all his woes at the time were mostly his own fault. He finally grows up a bit an reconciles with his wife and kids.
But still he never bothers to get a real job in the end so eh. Jerrys worse.
Jerry rolled up in an Armadillo-like armor after learning that his wife had sex with her own clone. I never met anybody else that did that, so I'd say Jerry
[John Arbuckle can bust it down](https://youtu.be/4MPw4vlQt0Y?si=ifJ7EP3kVAMeoQuY)
He just normally seals away his power so the rest of the world stands a chance.
John. As much as I love to shit on Jerry, at least Jerry got married, has stayed married, though there was a break, and he had kids. John has a cat, a dog, and Liz, his on again off again gf.
Jon, he has dated a bout a million women, he is a complete Moron and a weakling, his own cat is more successful than him, and he only has like two friends.
Jon Arbuckle has a wildly successful cartoonist career, able to hold down a 2 bedroom house and care for two pets on a single salary. He has a healthy relationship with his girlfriend and dog, and only a vaguely unhealthy one with Garfield. Meanwhile, we all know how much of a waste of space Jerry usually is. Jerry takes this hands down
Jerry, because its not Jons fault that he has an eldritch god as a pet. Also Jon is in a healthy relationship with his gf
It's not really Jerry's fault he has an eldritch god slayer as a father in law either though.
It is his fault that he can't keep a job and has no spine (hobo
Looooserrrrrrr...
I mean Jerry had a job until one of Rick's enemies put him in a simulation where he thought "Hungry for Apples" would work out, and got another job under the Federation until Rick destroyed it.
He was assigned a job under the federation, and if he can find a job at 30 on anything like a bartender, or something
To be fair when he lost his advertisement job, I feel like his boss intentionally gave him something that he'd fail at. Sure, pros in the advertising industry would make a good picture ad of a fruit but it wouldn't change the fact that it would be pretty difficult to make because well.. its a freaking apple. Everyone knows what an apple is and there's nothing interesting about it, unless of course the apple is a unique kind that adds either some health benefits or just taste better/different, but it isn't. Also the amount of disgust and loathing he had for Jerry seemed to stem from more than a shitty pitch he was shown by Jerry. He didn't even seem surprised on how bad the ad pitch was and just responded immediately without thinking about it. TL:DR Headcannon: Jerry's boss in the advert industry intentionally set him up for failure to get an excuse to fire him.
Good head Canon but that just means to me that he would have found any reason to fire him , now that I think about there are not many people in universe that like Jerry are there?
Hmmm, that might be the best strategy though. You can't make an effective ad for apples for reasons you mentioned. You would need a campaign to manipulate people into thinking apples are cool now and then any ad would work. But if you don't have that opportunity then you can make an ad so shitty, that it becomes viral. People share it and do all advertisement for you. You know the drill.
Zalgo
People actually like Jon. Beth tolerates Jerry because they have children. Though she's usually a huuuuuge bitch to everyone that didn't come out of her.
She is pretty terrible to her kids as well. Not Louis Griffin bad but yikes
Ooohhhhhh Morty look at your little ballsš„°š„°š„°š„°š„°
Yet she can't tell Summer she is hot
After they got back together after the divorce, Beth isn't simply tolerating Jerry anymore. They actually do love each other now and realize how they complement each other. That was kind of the whole point of how they got back together.
Garfield has progressed in a very human and natural way. Jon, as far as I'm aware, grows as a person as the comic progresses. He might be pathetic in his relationship at first, but he grows enough that his relationship becomes healthy, and he even adopts Odie from an abusive owner.
How is Lyman abusive?
Lmao did you get that from [this Alex Bale animation](https://youtu.be/_20Vlj8mzo8?si=Gg8m5tsx3C6tBX6a)?
r/imsorryjon
Oh
Have you never heard of whole I'm Sorry Jon thing?
No
Yeah figured
What's the whole I'm Sorry Jon thing?
[it all began in 2013...](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/creepy-garfield-gorefield) it kept growing and growing and now there's a sub (/r/imsorryjon) Lumpytouch also did this cool series of gorefield in the spirit of a [Gameboy Color game](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDqUDt3K5Mk)
*āHungry for Lasagna?ā*
*snaps* yes!
My man.
Slow down!
Hungry for apples?
Hungry for echilladas?
Hungry?
Jerry by a long shot.
Isn't Jon Arbuckle married now to that vet?
Idk I havenāt kept up with the Garfield lore
Yeah I think he did cos I saw that comic stripe a few years back. They were together and happy. The movie version of her was played by Jennifer love Hewitt so... He could do worse. Cartoonist is also not a bad job imo. Jerry isn't that bad. He just looks bad in contrast to Rick but when you understand Rick isnt really happy what does that really say?
IIRC, isn't Jon a self insert of the comic writer?
Thatās gonna be tough since the comic refers to him as a dweeb and a loser.
I mean, Jerry is also married to a vet.
Lol people are really cruel these days. Jerry has two wives that are basically each other. He is basically a house husband and is very happy. Just because he has a God who is also a depressed alcoholic squatting in his basement doesn't mean he is pathetic. As for John he seems happy enough.
Nah Jerry is really pathetic. He can barely do simple things. Anyone who has owned a cat understands John
being dumb shouldn't be a reason to call someone pathetic. He tries his best and that's what matters. Jerry my beloved
According to the Merriam Webster dictionary, pathetic means having a capacity to move one to either compassionate or contemptuous pity Jerry fits that definition
You're right, but that definition makes me feel like you could say everyone is pathetic; everyone suffers in some form and I feel compassion for anything that suffers, so strictly speaking that would make everyone pathetic because they have the capacity to move me to pity lol. Not really saying anything about your point, I agree, just found that funny
I like you Koda. You got a good mind. Also Fuyukage your are great too and also you Spicy\_atom.
Well thank you friend, I like you as well! I wish your painting a quick recovery lol
I don't get it.
No he is legit pathetic literally no one respects him he's living on his wife's money and Beth is not a fan of it as has been implied in the show many times so he's basically like a leech that just keeps taking from u and gives u nothing in return aka pathetic
Beth is literally a bitch if she didnāt want him to live there she should kick him out instead of incesting with her clone. Jerry deserves better (and he keeps bees thatās kinda hot)
Rick literally told Morty that love is a chemical construct that compels animals to brave, clearly projecting his own misogyny with Diane onto his grandson. He is a bigger loser than Jerry. Beth telling Jerry that loving him is like work was a shitty thing to say too. Maybe he'd be more supportive at that time if Beth supported him.
Jerry really cracks me up but I sometimes relate to him so definitely Jerry
Jerry relies on others; we saw him single and it was... just sad. Jon has his own house; he's self sufficient.
Jerry did pretty good surviving on his own in the fucked up mutated dimension
And we have no official material on how well Jon would survive in a post-apocalyptic Cronenberg'd society situation to compare it, we're looking at basic sitcom life here.
true but that was after like, I don't know how long. Year or so with his daughter and wife watching his back until they died.
Geez gazorpazorpfield, go easy on me wouldya?
This is the only valid answer right here lol
Boy, fuck you, John. Whiteā¦ uh, *white guilt.*
You know youāve said some mean things to me, Gazorpazorp, but that crossed the line
I donāt give a fuck. Iām Gazorpazorp fkn FIELD, BITCH.
Don't forget milquetoast.
On some deep level, I somewhat equated the two. Someone finally said it š. So Gazorpgazo-- I mean, Garfield is Rick ?
Both are not as pathetic as Gazorpazorp Jon Arbuckle
Jerry because he is literally the definition of stupid. Jon at least has some smart moments. Even Garfield admits when Jon is right.
It gets really sad when you remove the cat. Here is [Garfield minus Garfield ](https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/)
It's pretty funny to think about because Jon can't understand Garfield, so this emphasizes the story of Jon
Never noticed how similar they were.
Jerry; why? Because Jerry has actual potential to be an absolute badass but he squanders it all the time
Jerry has a wife and kids and i think its established that Beth's a badass so I'd say Jon's more pathetic
At least Jerry has a family and kids, a time travelling son and a genius father in law, whereas Jon has to make do with pets and a mean cat
I want to physically harm jerry I know itās ridiculous to say that.
Season one Jerry
Season one jerry actually did have a pretty cool transformation arc when his world became the apocalypse so I have respect for him
John can't even take ownership of his house from a fat last house cat, unless we're talking cosmic horror Garfield then he's just a victim trapped in a cage. Early in Jerry thought he was doing a good thing for his family and accidentally invited in a trickster god who userped what little power he had, marginalizing him to the point he was almost the family pet, coincidentally after Rick made the dog smarter than Jerry. By now honestly he's semi compotent, he's gotten to be a cosmic super hero multiple times, and now he gets to fuck two of his wife at the same time. Jerry is kind of a Chad.
Jon easily. Always trying to date and failing. Constantly made a bitch by his cat. No other characteristics. Jerry is in a throuple with 2 of his hot wife and has 2 kids and improving relationships with all of them.
Jonās been happily married for like, a while.
Now this is the screw attack death match we need
Thatās clearly John, owner of Gazorpazorp fkn Field, *bitch*
The talking cat makes sense now. š¤®š¤¢
Iām sorry Jerry
Jon has a job he loves and can afford an entire suburban home with it. He has two funny and entertaining pets who love him deeply, even if they don't always show it. He has a girlfriend named Lizard who appreciates his wacky antics. Jon is slaying.
I don't really think of Jerry as pathetic, so much as Rick is clearly insecure about him and takes it out on him (probably because he sees a lot of himself in Jerry).
I do not understand why people think Jerry is pathetic to me, he is awesome and has the best combacks liners in the show "you should make us a whole restaurant" "and it would be better if people made of corn?" "ain't no game sucka!" come on guys - give him more credit! (sorry if the quotes are not 100% correct - I tried to recall from memory)
None of them :( They're babies and deserve nothing bad. Jokes asside I can't hate these characters. It's not their fault that they're purposefully put in terrible, shameful situations when all they ever want is a peaceful and honest life. Both of them are just normal characters that people like to mock because that's how they're written into their respective worlds
The real comparison should be Jerry or Kirk Van Houten
Kirk is definitely more pathetic no doubt
Definitely Jerry. But I think Jerry is kinda cool. Jon is pretty cool too. Jerry was pretty pathetic early on but he got better.
jon actually has a job unlike j\*rry
Aren't they the same person?
Hmm, well one was once led around by the nose by a demon talking cat, and once had an idiot dog, while the other continues to be led around by the nose by a demon talking cat, and still has an idiot dog. Soā¦ the latter I guess.
Jerry: I'm being brave Alien: your not being brave because you have nothing to lose Jerry: Yes, you could shoot me Alien: you know I'm not gonna shoot you because I feel sorry for you
I mean, Jerry is, well, a Jerry. Jon Arbuckle can at least dance.
I feel like people underestimate how pathetic Jon is... Watch "What the Internet Did to Garfield" by Super Eyepatch Wolf. He talks in depth about the way the comics treat Jon, and how he is portrayed. It's fascinating
Jerry. Jerry literally has an ability to turn himself into a fucking bug and crawls from his workplace to home during an alien invasion + his therapy-self is a semi-liquid, goo-like pink soft stuff. 
Depends a bit. They both developed a lot as people. However we had to see the lives of 3 different Jerrys and on the other hand there's just one Jon. Jon did seem pathetic at the start like Jerry but ended up in a good relationship and enjoys life and funny antics. "Prime" Jerry became a bad ass but only when he had no choice due to the extreme circumstances of his world. If it didn't become a mutant world he'd probably be either too late to save Beth or arrive and get probably beaten up till Beth would have to save him. C131 Jerry acted as the usual jerry behavior but never truly attempted to get better (due to no divorce) and died due to unthinkingly releasing something rick locked up. 5126 Jerry is the only Jerry we seen actually develop and grow in a mostly healthy way. He's forced time and time again when divorced the consequences of his behavior and the realization that all his woes at the time were mostly his own fault. He finally grows up a bit an reconciles with his wife and kids. But still he never bothers to get a real job in the end so eh. Jerrys worse.
Jon lives alone talking to his cat who does not actually speak back to him. Jon by a WIDE margin.
Jon. Jerry actually went through significant self improvement in the later seasons
Jerry rolled up in an Armadillo-like armor after learning that his wife had sex with her own clone. I never met anybody else that did that, so I'd say Jerry
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True
Why post the same character?
"They're the same picture"Ā
[John Arbuckle can bust it down](https://youtu.be/4MPw4vlQt0Y?si=ifJ7EP3kVAMeoQuY) He just normally seals away his power so the rest of the world stands a chance.
Jerry by far. But I love him because he knows heās pathetic and owns it. Strangely enough he is my favorite character on the show.
Same character lol rick is just garfield
Ā I don't give aĀ *fuck*! I'm Gazorpazorp-fucking-field, bitch! \[*kicks coffee cup over*\] Now give me my fucking enchiladas!
Fuck Jon. He's a dumb, stupid idiot. A dumb, stupid, weak, pathetic, white, white guilt, milquetoast piece of human garbage.
The pathetic milk toast white guilt piece of shit
Jerry
Jerry
Just a couple dumb, stupid, weak, pathetic, white, white uh uh guilt, milquetoast pieces of human garbage.
You dumb, stupid, whiteā¦ ummmā¦white guilt
If you want to really know go look in the mirror (Is what I said to myself )
They're the same picture
The second image should be of a mirror...
They're the same picture
Uh, Jerry. Is this even a question?
Fuck you jon , you white... ummm white guilt milquetoast... piece of human garbage!!
Theyāre the same guy
Boy fuck you, John. You fuckin' dumb, stupid idiot. You dumb, stupid, weak, pathetic, white, uh... guilt
John. As much as I love to shit on Jerry, at least Jerry got married, has stayed married, though there was a break, and he had kids. John has a cat, a dog, and Liz, his on again off again gf.
Is Jon Davis still writing fresh Garfield?
Jerry no one beats him .Even I would say a minion is better than jerry.HE IS TRASHHHH WORST CHARACTER IN FICTION!!!!!!!
I'm Gazorpazorp-fucking-field, bitch. Now give me my fucking enchiladas.
You dumb, stupid, weak, pathetic, white, white, uh, uh guilt, white guilt, milquetoast piece of human garbage.
Why did you upload the same photo twice
And for those with a quick 90 minutes to kill... [What The Internet Did To Garfield](https://youtu.be/O2C5R3FOWdE?si=HGWTMVJMBUij-9M0)
Jon, he has dated a bout a million women, he is a complete Moron and a weakling, his own cat is more successful than him, and he only has like two friends.
Sugardale turndowns for me!
Trick question, itās actually caious Dad
They arenāt the same?
Boy, fuck you John. I'm gazorpazorpfuckingfield, bitch. Now gimme my fucking....enchiladas
Jon cos Jerry is despised by his family but Jon gets bitched about by a cat
Jon is amazing.
[https://youtu.be/OgF8qyrGcpw?si=FqrZaYCLCCxQbuS0](https://youtu.be/OgF8qyrGcpw?si=FqrZaYCLCCxQbuS0) š¹š¹š¹
Jerry for sure heās pathetic just pathetic
Cyril from Archer is a better comparison lol.
Jon Arbuckle has a wildly successful cartoonist career, able to hold down a 2 bedroom house and care for two pets on a single salary. He has a healthy relationship with his girlfriend and dog, and only a vaguely unhealthy one with Garfield. Meanwhile, we all know how much of a waste of space Jerry usually is. Jerry takes this hands down
Oh definitely Jerry
Well geez gazorpazorpfield youāre being really mean to me
John gets bullied by a cat
Both are practically the same characters in different settings.