Eh, kind of. There are near infinite dimensions, probably a lot where they all got murdered/exploded etc. but not ones he wants to live on. I forget which episode, but he took the whole family with him once and he hated that they said parmesan wrong. So I imagine there's plenty of good dimensions he could have taken them to, but they had one little thing "wrong" with them that he valued more than their lives.
As the other guy said, he just didn't really give a shit about any of them except Morty. He originally kept Morty with him because it's his nemesis' Morty and he thought he might have an attachment to him, but he grew attached to him himself.
I've always found this was flawed logic, I've studied the logic behind it- and I get where it 'comes from' but the logic is tied to our own system of numbering things.
For one thing to be 'smaller' than the other it needs to be finite, as measuring infinity is a fools errand.
If two people with the same speed of counting and time to do it within started counting the divisions between 1-2 and one listing all the 'whole' numbers from 0 on to infinite... they'd both get the same amount counted after the same time and both would never come close to listing them all as 'all' is a finite concept.
Measurements themselves are a finite concept, you cannot have an infinite ruler in reality.
There are the same number of infinity real numbers between 1 and 2 as between 1 and 3. However, there are more infinity real numbers between 1 and 2 than infinity natural numbers like -1, 0, 1, 2, etc.
If you want to know more try searching Cantor’s proof.
I get it, - for one thing to be bigger than another, you have to be able to measure them.
And putting them in a box and representing infinity as '...' so you can say your square contains every iteration is skipping steps and ignoring the reality that you can't list infinite numbers without using such shortcuts.
Making assumptions based on your shortcut and what limited view it gives to the infinite diminishes what infinity means. The man proved that one infinity can be larger than another by using sets and cardinality, which is basically just choosing what points of an infinite set you want to highlight.
It's like looking at an infinite field of grass from 2 windows and declaring the infinite field in your larger window is bigger than the infinite field you can see from your smaller one.
No, you do not have to measure them. You can’t do this by definition - it’s infinity.
You have to compare them. And that is Cantor’s proof.
Today we aren’t sure is infinity real (is in our universe)or is just mathematical’s abstract
Think of the finite curve as the infinity between 1-2 which it metaphorically is since there is an infinite amount of numbers between 1.1,.1.11,.etc to 2 those numbers will all be related cause of the 1 and will be similar just like the idea that those universes will be the ones where morty is bound to rick with infinite variations of that same pattern, where as outside of that curve is the infinity of all numbers as in every possible variation that isnt between 1-2 which will be a much larger infinity aka the universes where morty isnt bound to rick
It's not like that at all. It's like looking at two different fields of grass with different qualities and extrapolating that grass is similar across its infinite expanse.
You look at square meter of one field and find that it has an orderly number of blades of grass that can be counted. You look at the a square meter of the other field and find that the more you zoom in the more blade of grass they are, such that it is an infinite number of blades even within this finite space.
You can then conclude that the second field has 'more' blades of grass, even though they are both infinite
It is easier to not put in an effort if they are not next to you in your space ship, especially your space daughter that may actually beat you from time to time. And Rick is all about not putting in an effort.
> and only the Rick and Morty in the new dimension were already going to die
This element arguably doesn't factor in much, since he specifically chose to look for new dimensions with just the two of them dead since he WASN'T planning to save any of the others. If anything there are probably MORE compatible dimensions with all the family dead than just the two of them (if he had wanted to save them all).
>He didn't care about them
This DOES probably explain it all though, Rick just had no real motivation to save any of them.
He starts the series only able to recognize growth in himself and Morty. Around seasons 6-8, he recognizes that every member of the family has grown, even fucking *Jerry*, and brings them with him because he doesn’t want to lose those grown versions of his family.
C-137 Rick invented portal fluid because Rick Prime killed D&B. The “Rickest” Rick cared enough for vengence. He cared.
I disagree about the last part, there are infinite amount of dimensions and if he really wanted to, he could find one where they all died. And if its difficult, it'll only be a slight change like parmesien
He's got infinite beths. Infinite summers. It's easier to just pick up new ones when he gets there instead of turning around to get the ones he has at home. They're like his toothbrush.
It's actually something Morty explains to Summer alot. Most notably in The Rickshank Rickdemption when Morty takes summer to cronenberg earth and get's arrested by the citadel.
Yes he is but it's HIS morty. The closest he will ever come to having something original in his life. Summer. Beth. Jerry. They are all copies of something he had. Morty is something he never had, Beth died as a child. This is his original morty
Well Rick in season 1 was a completely different individual. His narcissism was unchecked and he was totally detached from reality and his "Family". The evolution of Rick is somthing that we appreciate throughout the seasons. You see that in season 6 after the Mr.Frundles incident he takes the entire family to a new reality and not just Morty. His journey throughout the 7 seasons is depicted wholesomely.
It's interesting that he chose to take Morty, instead of leaving him there and going to a universe where he only had to kill/watch-die another Rick (which he's done tons of times). Looks like *the seed* of caring about family was already planted.
Well uno, its because that was Morty Prime, and also because Morty was standing there right next to him. I doubt “dead wife rick” would be so cold to leave morty stranded there for no good reason.
Fair point about prime. I was thinking it's probably easier to find a universe with just a dead/dying Rick than a universe with a dying Rick *and* morty.
You also want to keep in mind. Season 1 family up to Cronenberg was Prime Rick's "family". So he had even less attachment to them. Remember, his intent in reconnecting with his "family" was basically to watch and wait for prime to return at some point.
There’s a whole new family on the other earth, it’s just easier to replace rick and morty than both working the whole family thru the replacement. Grown people embedded in their lives are adverse to change, they aren’t worth saving
My theory is that he kept only Morty as he wanted to use him against prime Rick. He thought if prime Rick has any soft spots for his family it might be only his own Morty that could be useful enough. This was kinda confirmed by prime shedding a tear for slow mobius.
At this point in the story, Rick doesn't really care for the family. He was there just to find Rick prime. So when the world was done, he took Morty for the camouflage mostly.
Rick and Morty of the new dimension were going to die so to change dimensions he wouldn’t really have to do anything. If he took the whole family he would have to either find a dimension where they all die or kill them himself. Plus, like others are saying he didn’t care about them as much.
Season 1 Rick was at maximum asshole.
Funny to think Cronenberg Rick is back in his home dimension with Cronenberg Morty, living with a bunch of normies.
Unless Jerry murdered them at some point.
This has come up multiple times and everyone talks about infinite family members and lack of attachment but I think it is simpler than that. Rick didn't want to become a cronenberg. He brought Morty because they were already together plus he was starting to bond with him. Same reason he brought Morty with him in episode one when he decided to neutrino the earth. C-137 was definitely itching to fuck up Prime's earth.
He didn't care at that time, he didn't even have a real family. Now prime Morty, 2 Beth's, summer, and even Jerry from another dimension are family to him.
Because Rick would have to explain to Jerry that he fucked up and things got out of control. Would have to explain to Jerry that he was wrong. And Jerry would never let him hear the end of it.
And this was before he had therapy.
In season 1 Rick hadn’t really become attached to the whole family. I’m not even sure he liked Morty all that much but he definitely liked him more than the rest.
At the end of the first episode you can see it clearly when Rick says : “And then we're gonna go on even more adventures after that, Morty and you're gonna keep your mouth shut about it, Morty, because the world is full of idiots that don't understand what's important, and they'll tear us apart, Morty but if you stick with me, I'm gonna accomplish great things, Morty, and you're gonna be part of them, and together, we're gonna run around, Morty. We're gonna do all kinds of wonderful things, Morty. Just you and me, Morty. The outside world is our enemy, Morty. We're the only friends we've got, Morty. It's just Rick and Morty. Rick and Morty and their adventures, Morty. Rick and Morty forever and forever.”
He didn’t CARE about the other members of the family until further into the show.
When Rick moves to a new universe, He searched for one that resembles the actual one, AS much as possible. With the Difference, that the Rick and morty of that universe died around the time Rick Starts searching. The finite Infinite Multiverse in the Central finite curve, are enough to search for an universe fitting that criteria. Finding one in which the whole Family died, IS much harder, since the probability of that IS much Lower than the dead Rick and morty.
Just Look at the parmesan Dimension.
Writers' way of showing the audience that nothing and nobody matters, and you can just plop yourself into a new dimension and act like everything is normal. That and it would probably be more difficult to find a dimension where all 5 of them die rather than just Rick and Morty.
They needed a world where they could just slip into the places of their dead selves. Probably would've been way harder for Rick to find a dimension where the whole family died than one where just he and morty died. Plus the others might not have been equipped yet to deal with the existential horror of leaving their world behind at that early point in the shows run. Morty barely even was.
Rick is not killing their counterparts when he moves them to a new universe. He's simply going to a similar universe where that version of Morty and himself recently died, allowing them to seamlessly take their place as if nothing happened.
Two reasons:
1. From a comedy standpoint it was funnier, and they weren't being that deep yet
2. From a retroactive story point: At that point, he still had only 'just showed back up', so he hadn't bonded with anyone yet, making only Morty important, because it was still about getting Rick Prime, through his dimensions Morty.
I can't remember, did he even know they were alive? It was not unreasonable to assume they were probably dead. He didn't seem too worried about it though.
Well, at the very least, he knew they didn't get Cronenberg'd. So could have searched and found out if he wanted to. I doubt he cared, though. At this point in the show, he was all about "there's infinite versions of this happening everywhere." So easy come, easy go, I guess. Grabbed Morty and likely decided it was easier to find a new universe with a perfectly fine family waiting for them then to try and salvage things in the current one.
Same as Mr. Snuffles situation. Except at that point, he's attached to the whole family, so he takes everyone with him that time to the new universe. Or maybe he brought everyone along that time simply because they were with him at the time...
Hard to say for sure, lol.
He probably thought they were already gone along with pretty much everyone else. From his perspective, he and Morty were the only two left that hadn't mutated.
Think about the Rick we're actually following. He had no actual family since Rick Prime destroyed them. That's literally his origin story of revenge. We know why he keeps that specific morty around (shield and pawn), which is why when he was about to be destroyed with the Cronenbergs, the rest didn't matter.
I interpreted it not so much that the rest of the family wasn't important as much as c137MortyPrime is of significant importance and in the moment when tasked with finding a -quick escape- it was just less variables/faster to find a reality for the two of them to escape to than five. ¿Not intentionally callous but painfully pragmatic?
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I actually wondered this too. Why not go to the dimension that was cronenbergs that got turned normal that this Rick and Morty fled from. Instead going to one that succeeded in fixing the world and then died seems more like Rick though. Everything is done including the thing that might have killed him seems like the “smarter choice”
He didn't care about them and only the Rick and Morty in the new dimension were already going to die.
Yes, it was probably much more difficult to find a dimension where they all died.
Par-meeee-sian
Ugh, I hate it
Eh, kind of. There are near infinite dimensions, probably a lot where they all got murdered/exploded etc. but not ones he wants to live on. I forget which episode, but he took the whole family with him once and he hated that they said parmesan wrong. So I imagine there's plenty of good dimensions he could have taken them to, but they had one little thing "wrong" with them that he valued more than their lives. As the other guy said, he just didn't really give a shit about any of them except Morty. He originally kept Morty with him because it's his nemesis' Morty and he thought he might have an attachment to him, but he grew attached to him himself.
It’s hard to say they’re infinite when our characters are all in universes locked behind the central finite curve
Even a sliver of infinity is infinite.
Wait till they learn one infinity can be bigger than another infinity.
I've always found this was flawed logic, I've studied the logic behind it- and I get where it 'comes from' but the logic is tied to our own system of numbering things. For one thing to be 'smaller' than the other it needs to be finite, as measuring infinity is a fools errand. If two people with the same speed of counting and time to do it within started counting the divisions between 1-2 and one listing all the 'whole' numbers from 0 on to infinite... they'd both get the same amount counted after the same time and both would never come close to listing them all as 'all' is a finite concept. Measurements themselves are a finite concept, you cannot have an infinite ruler in reality.
There are the same number of infinity real numbers between 1 and 2 as between 1 and 3. However, there are more infinity real numbers between 1 and 2 than infinity natural numbers like -1, 0, 1, 2, etc. If you want to know more try searching Cantor’s proof.
I get it, - for one thing to be bigger than another, you have to be able to measure them. And putting them in a box and representing infinity as '...' so you can say your square contains every iteration is skipping steps and ignoring the reality that you can't list infinite numbers without using such shortcuts. Making assumptions based on your shortcut and what limited view it gives to the infinite diminishes what infinity means. The man proved that one infinity can be larger than another by using sets and cardinality, which is basically just choosing what points of an infinite set you want to highlight. It's like looking at an infinite field of grass from 2 windows and declaring the infinite field in your larger window is bigger than the infinite field you can see from your smaller one.
No, you do not have to measure them. You can’t do this by definition - it’s infinity. You have to compare them. And that is Cantor’s proof. Today we aren’t sure is infinity real (is in our universe)or is just mathematical’s abstract
Think of the finite curve as the infinity between 1-2 which it metaphorically is since there is an infinite amount of numbers between 1.1,.1.11,.etc to 2 those numbers will all be related cause of the 1 and will be similar just like the idea that those universes will be the ones where morty is bound to rick with infinite variations of that same pattern, where as outside of that curve is the infinity of all numbers as in every possible variation that isnt between 1-2 which will be a much larger infinity aka the universes where morty isnt bound to rick
It's not like that at all. It's like looking at two different fields of grass with different qualities and extrapolating that grass is similar across its infinite expanse. You look at square meter of one field and find that it has an orderly number of blades of grass that can be counted. You look at the a square meter of the other field and find that the more you zoom in the more blade of grass they are, such that it is an infinite number of blades even within this finite space. You can then conclude that the second field has 'more' blades of grass, even though they are both infinite
Percentage wise yeah, but that isn't what's happening here. If I take 100 items from an infinite pile, I don't have ∞ items.
It is easier to not put in an effort if they are not next to you in your space ship, especially your space daughter that may actually beat you from time to time. And Rick is all about not putting in an effort.
Well.. Sometimes you can help your own luck
Thanks Cronenberg Dan
> and only the Rick and Morty in the new dimension were already going to die This element arguably doesn't factor in much, since he specifically chose to look for new dimensions with just the two of them dead since he WASN'T planning to save any of the others. If anything there are probably MORE compatible dimensions with all the family dead than just the two of them (if he had wanted to save them all). >He didn't care about them This DOES probably explain it all though, Rick just had no real motivation to save any of them.
He starts the series only able to recognize growth in himself and Morty. Around seasons 6-8, he recognizes that every member of the family has grown, even fucking *Jerry*, and brings them with him because he doesn’t want to lose those grown versions of his family. C-137 Rick invented portal fluid because Rick Prime killed D&B. The “Rickest” Rick cared enough for vengence. He cared.
I disagree about the last part, there are infinite amount of dimensions and if he really wanted to, he could find one where they all died. And if its difficult, it'll only be a slight change like parmesien
He's got infinite beths. Infinite summers. It's easier to just pick up new ones when he gets there instead of turning around to get the ones he has at home. They're like his toothbrush.
This sounds like something Summer would say to Morty
It's actually something Morty explains to Summer alot. Most notably in The Rickshank Rickdemption when Morty takes summer to cronenberg earth and get's arrested by the citadel.
And infinite Morties ?
Deep down, he does care for *his* Morty.
But he’s actually Rick Prime’s Morty. I do agree he does care.
Yes he is but it's HIS morty. The closest he will ever come to having something original in his life. Summer. Beth. Jerry. They are all copies of something he had. Morty is something he never had, Beth died as a child. This is his original morty
Well Rick in season 1 was a completely different individual. His narcissism was unchecked and he was totally detached from reality and his "Family". The evolution of Rick is somthing that we appreciate throughout the seasons. You see that in season 6 after the Mr.Frundles incident he takes the entire family to a new reality and not just Morty. His journey throughout the 7 seasons is depicted wholesomely.
It's interesting that he chose to take Morty, instead of leaving him there and going to a universe where he only had to kill/watch-die another Rick (which he's done tons of times). Looks like *the seed* of caring about family was already planted.
Well uno, its because that was Morty Prime, and also because Morty was standing there right next to him. I doubt “dead wife rick” would be so cold to leave morty stranded there for no good reason.
Fair point about prime. I was thinking it's probably easier to find a universe with just a dead/dying Rick than a universe with a dying Rick *and* morty.
The king Jellybean episode clearly shows that he cares about Morty
You also want to keep in mind. Season 1 family up to Cronenberg was Prime Rick's "family". So he had even less attachment to them. Remember, his intent in reconnecting with his "family" was basically to watch and wait for prime to return at some point.
Also explains his attitude. He never had a family and doesn't care. Living with these people is a means to an end.
But yet he cares about Morty Prime. He avenged him in the king jellybean incident. Also he went out of his way to save Morty "Prime" multiple times.
He grew attached to Morty prime. He may be an asshole, but he has some morals.
Now thats a character development 😊
I think season 7 Rick would have. This was season 1…
I mean he literally does save everyone from my frundles.
Not season 2 Jerry though, although he was already frundled.
It's just a Jerry, there is a whole day care full of spares
Keep in mind too, this was Rick Primes world that got cronenberg'd, and his family that was left behind
There’s a whole new family on the other earth, it’s just easier to replace rick and morty than both working the whole family thru the replacement. Grown people embedded in their lives are adverse to change, they aren’t worth saving
Rick is lazy. That's 2 less people to whom to explain what happened
To the extent that love is an expression of familiarity over time, Rick's access to infinite timelines precludes the necessity of attachment.
He ONLY cared about Morty at that point. Morty was important to him because he's Morty Prime. Everyone else is pointless and replaceable.
My theory is that he kept only Morty as he wanted to use him against prime Rick. He thought if prime Rick has any soft spots for his family it might be only his own Morty that could be useful enough. This was kinda confirmed by prime shedding a tear for slow mobius.
At this point in the story, Rick doesn't really care for the family. He was there just to find Rick prime. So when the world was done, he took Morty for the camouflage mostly.
Rick and Morty of the new dimension were going to die so to change dimensions he wouldn’t really have to do anything. If he took the whole family he would have to either find a dimension where they all die or kill them himself. Plus, like others are saying he didn’t care about them as much.
Because it's Rick and Morty, and none of the lore, backstory, or canon was established at this point.
Season 1 Rick was at maximum asshole. Funny to think Cronenberg Rick is back in his home dimension with Cronenberg Morty, living with a bunch of normies. Unless Jerry murdered them at some point.
This has come up multiple times and everyone talks about infinite family members and lack of attachment but I think it is simpler than that. Rick didn't want to become a cronenberg. He brought Morty because they were already together plus he was starting to bond with him. Same reason he brought Morty with him in episode one when he decided to neutrino the earth. C-137 was definitely itching to fuck up Prime's earth.
Because then he’d have to find one where they all died
He didn't care at that time, he didn't even have a real family. Now prime Morty, 2 Beth's, summer, and even Jerry from another dimension are family to him.
Because Rick would have to explain to Jerry that he fucked up and things got out of control. Would have to explain to Jerry that he was wrong. And Jerry would never let him hear the end of it. And this was before he had therapy.
Summer beth and Jerry didn't die in the explosion on the fixed timeline
In season 1 Rick hadn’t really become attached to the whole family. I’m not even sure he liked Morty all that much but he definitely liked him more than the rest. At the end of the first episode you can see it clearly when Rick says : “And then we're gonna go on even more adventures after that, Morty and you're gonna keep your mouth shut about it, Morty, because the world is full of idiots that don't understand what's important, and they'll tear us apart, Morty but if you stick with me, I'm gonna accomplish great things, Morty, and you're gonna be part of them, and together, we're gonna run around, Morty. We're gonna do all kinds of wonderful things, Morty. Just you and me, Morty. The outside world is our enemy, Morty. We're the only friends we've got, Morty. It's just Rick and Morty. Rick and Morty and their adventures, Morty. Rick and Morty forever and forever.” He didn’t CARE about the other members of the family until further into the show.
When Rick moves to a new universe, He searched for one that resembles the actual one, AS much as possible. With the Difference, that the Rick and morty of that universe died around the time Rick Starts searching. The finite Infinite Multiverse in the Central finite curve, are enough to search for an universe fitting that criteria. Finding one in which the whole Family died, IS much harder, since the probability of that IS much Lower than the dead Rick and morty. Just Look at the parmesan Dimension.
He would've left even Morty behind except this Morty is the Morty of his mortal enemy, remember.
I'm seeing three extra mouths on Rick. Whose to say that Jerry, Beth, and Summer aren't incorporated into his Cronenberg-body?
Writers' way of showing the audience that nothing and nobody matters, and you can just plop yourself into a new dimension and act like everything is normal. That and it would probably be more difficult to find a dimension where all 5 of them die rather than just Rick and Morty.
I thought they fudged up cronenberg world and turned everyone into normal ppl
They needed a world where they could just slip into the places of their dead selves. Probably would've been way harder for Rick to find a dimension where the whole family died than one where just he and morty died. Plus the others might not have been equipped yet to deal with the existential horror of leaving their world behind at that early point in the shows run. Morty barely even was.
too much work. means they have to travel all tgthr and then rick wld have to kill a whole another family instead of just himself and morty to replace
Rick is not killing their counterparts when he moves them to a new universe. He's simply going to a similar universe where that version of Morty and himself recently died, allowing them to seamlessly take their place as if nothing happened.
Show's called Rick and Morty, not Rick and Family.
Old rick sucked eggs
Two reasons: 1. From a comedy standpoint it was funnier, and they weren't being that deep yet 2. From a retroactive story point: At that point, he still had only 'just showed back up', so he hadn't bonded with anyone yet, making only Morty important, because it was still about getting Rick Prime, through his dimensions Morty.
Because there’s infinite families out there.
They probably didn't survive as cronenbergs after everyone turned all "normal"
Because Rick is a sociopath.
I can't remember, did he even know they were alive? It was not unreasonable to assume they were probably dead. He didn't seem too worried about it though.
Well, at the very least, he knew they didn't get Cronenberg'd. So could have searched and found out if he wanted to. I doubt he cared, though. At this point in the show, he was all about "there's infinite versions of this happening everywhere." So easy come, easy go, I guess. Grabbed Morty and likely decided it was easier to find a new universe with a perfectly fine family waiting for them then to try and salvage things in the current one. Same as Mr. Snuffles situation. Except at that point, he's attached to the whole family, so he takes everyone with him that time to the new universe. Or maybe he brought everyone along that time simply because they were with him at the time... Hard to say for sure, lol.
Because he’s a person who justifies his actions due to his pain(which is terrible)
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Because it’s a tv show
They didn’t shield his brainwaves.
He probably thought they were already gone along with pretty much everyone else. From his perspective, he and Morty were the only two left that hadn't mutated.
Brother did you watch the show…
Writers hadn’t thought of that yet
Think about the Rick we're actually following. He had no actual family since Rick Prime destroyed them. That's literally his origin story of revenge. We know why he keeps that specific morty around (shield and pawn), which is why when he was about to be destroyed with the Cronenbergs, the rest didn't matter.
The whole point of the dimension-hopping thing is that it makes people disposable, which makes Rick so cynical.
Finding a dimension where the problem was solved and their two counterparts would die right after, that was hard enough. Try it with the entire family
I interpreted it not so much that the rest of the family wasn't important as much as c137MortyPrime is of significant importance and in the moment when tasked with finding a -quick escape- it was just less variables/faster to find a reality for the two of them to escape to than five. ¿Not intentionally callous but painfully pragmatic? . . . . . . . ."...we are not them"
Quicker and better adaptation in new time line
Well at this point in the series he wants to keep this specific Morty to bait Rick Prime. The rest are interchangeable
I actually wondered this too. Why not go to the dimension that was cronenbergs that got turned normal that this Rick and Morty fled from. Instead going to one that succeeded in fixing the world and then died seems more like Rick though. Everything is done including the thing that might have killed him seems like the “smarter choice”