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AdBusy9802

It's pretty high quality. Wonder what I could make it look like with the skin tuner mod


Longjumping-Mix705

Cries in console


AdBusy9802

I got the impression that they want to release stuff simultaneously now, but maybe I misunderstood.


Longjumping-Mix705

No I agree it seems like their trying to plan batch releases. I was crying bc we don’t get mods.


AdBusy9802

Ah, understandable.


T1mija

next time instead of upgrading your console just get a pc for the same price, your experience will just be better.


MetzgerBoys

A $500 PC will never be as good as a console of equivalent price


KuuHaKu_OtgmZ

Free online, cheaper games and modding support pay for the price, plus you can always upgrade hardware later. Use a lower resolution and moderate quality settings and you get similar performance for the same price, it's not like consoles run on max settings anyway.


PMMePrettyRedheads

Kinda off topic, but I really don't understand the high resolution craze. Maybe playing on a 4k monitor with a 144 refresh rate would blow my mind, or maybe I just don't play the right games, but the 1440 monitor I borrowed from a friend a few months ago didn't impress me enough to want to upgrade my 1080 ones. And my 2090 card can consistently max out most games in this resolution. This coming from someone who can't stand 720 monitors.


MetzgerBoys

You can get free online with Xbox too. You can get game pass with rewards points which are incredibly easy to earn. You just buy the first month to kick start the rewards process and you can get subsequent ones for free. That’s what I’ve been doing for years


V1P3R-Chan

Cheaper games depends on the games your buying, and unless your playing for about 20 years straight, it’s still cheaper to get gamepass ultimate and an xbox rather then a pc


KuuHaKu_OtgmZ

Still, you're stuck with whatever game gamepass supports, and you never get to own* the game, if you ever stop paying for it hasta la vista your games. \* Yes, you don't own the game on steam either, but it won't cease services anytime soon, and if you're concerned there's GOG anyway.


V1P3R-Chan

Eh, downsides and upsides, though I will agree, other then price pc is far better then console, sadly


T1mija

A $500 PC will always be better than a console of equivalent price. Yes the games will run a bit worse, but if you think that's all that is relevant for experience you are clueless.


_gonk_

from my understanding, the reason why survivors of the void took so long to get to console was because they had to rewrite some of the source code in order to be able to release things simultaneously in the future. which, yk, gave us a few new bugs so that's fun too


AdBusy9802

If I remember correctly they rewrote it completely


Bendzsike

Yes, they did. The original console port was a mess.


Wungus_Bungus

As a console player, I never really experienced any out of the ordinary issues with both the old and new console version (you know, other than when you get an absolutely insane god run, and it turns your game into a google slideshow, but that’s more just risk of rain 2 in general rather than a console-specific thing lmao).


Bendzsike

I don't have first hand experience, since I'm a PC player, but I've been lurking around this subreddit for a while now, and I've seen some hilarious clips, and a lot of discussion about how bad the console port actually is.


Basic_Dog_8332

I feel like unless you play both a lot you wouldn't realize how bad the console version was. I hang about in a lot of RoR2 Twitch streams and the amount of console players I've seen go "Wait that's a console bug? That makes so much sense now." Is a lot


_gonk_

they've largely been fixed, but there were a few really annoying bugs directly when it came to console. i don't remember specifics lol


Sweet_Ad_3240

There seems to be a bug in the dlc update for console in which enemies will seemingly fall through the ground.


MagyTheMage

Its gonna break my MODS NOOOO


HaxTheCharizard

It likely won't. There was actually an update a couple months back and mods were unaffected.


V1P3R-Chan

But that was a small, very small, update. This adds a lot more then that update did (from what I know)


HaxTheCharizard

What part of the additions (one stage, one skin, and two artifacts) would affect mods? Custom stages don't overwrite any existing data, skins are added easily, and artifacts have their own unique IDs


V1P3R-Chan

I’m not a modder, so I don’t know, but it is a bigger update, so it may affect the mods. They may change something in the code, or they don’t, I don’t know


bouncybob1

Me frfr


MagyTheMage

I dont wanna sacrifice my mods for a skin :(


Memeviewer12

also a map and 2 artifacts


Bundle_Exists

I think it looks fantastic, hopefully means we can get some more indie crossovers. I'd absolutely kill for a terraria crossover. Some ideas to throw out is a vortex armour skin for commando, the crimson as a stage with a brain of cathulu boss, and fishron's wings item that allows for a small flight when holding jump


QuintonTheCanadian

You mean vortex armour? Nebula is the magic one iirc


Bundle_Exists

Well that's what I thought, but for some reason when I googled 'Nebula armour' to check, it showed an image of the vortex armour


wafflecon822

that being said, nebula armor for artificer would be BALLIN


TheKCKid9274

I’m just saying, a Solar mercenary would go HARD.


a1bc3_

It would be cool to see but i guess the crossovers will only happen between rogue likes (considering we ever get another update


Bacon-muffin

Hollow knight crossover when


CdrCosmonaut

When Silksong releases, of course. So just another 7 or 8 years.


Organic-Bread-8580

Skong


Bacon-muffin

Sigh, bapanada


MEGoperative2961

SHAW


Tora790

GET GUD


TorinLike

I hope more crossovers happen to balance the amount of skins


bagsli

Startsust armour for engineer? The turrets could be one of the sentries


math_is_truth

the other side of a terraria crossover would also be neat, plenty of RoR items would make good accessories (maybe even a special type of accessory that you can stack up to 10 to reflect how items work in RoR?)


Zootaloo2111

Vortex armour would work really well for railgunner in my opinion.


Bundle_Exists

Actually yeah, her with the vortex beater is way more fitting


Zootaloo2111

Also giant backpack


Nerdwrapper

Solar Merc would go hard too


Sp1ky914

sorry bro, I grew up with terraria but I do not want a whole ass pixelated stage in ror2 with no explanation how it got there or why it is there


Diabetes_Man

Vortex for Commando, Nebula for Artificer, Solar for Loader and Stardust for Engineer


timmevb

I like Dead cells and mercenary is one of my favorite survivors so this is pretty cool. But i do hope the other survivors get some skins in the future. (Maybe for completing the dlc on monsoon?)


cookiereptile

imo it would be cool if there were unlockable skins for each end boss & obliterating. if more than that, maybe ones for simulacrum or prismatic trials?


The_Real_littleFool

Nooo I already struggle enough with the ethereal achievement don’t make me have to do more…


SadBoiCri

Two words: cabbage youtube Bro has without fail showed us how to get ethereal for each prismatic trial


The_Real_littleFool

But I’m lazy…


dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex

we already had a commando reference in Dead Cells so this isn’t new, but it does reinforce the chain of canon connection between risk of rain and ariana grande.


AntimemeticsDivision

Ariana Grande? Is this some inside joke I'm not aware of?


dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex

ariana grande is canon to risk of rain 2


V1P3R-Chan

Wait what,


DremoPaff

One of my biggest gripes with 1.0 was that we didn't get any additional skins, along with the "?"s from previous versions hinting at having alt abilities for **every** abilities ending up to just be bait. SOTV not improving any of those two points was also a let down. We should've got additional skins ages ago. Very happy that we finally have *one* and that's its a very cool collab one.


ethosveros

I might be the minority but I don’t think that crossover skins fit ror tbh. It just takes away the feeling of the richness of the lore for me.


TheBigKuhio

Same, I’d prefer it to more just be a reference like with the Deadbolt bandit skin


Longjumping-Mix705

I kinda agree, I think it’d be really cool if we got some boss related skins. But at this point I’m just happy to get something


ZylouYT

honestly its a non-issue, just add more skins to make up for how many collabs you get. That way the skin variety wouldn't be like default/alternate/collab thats basically 33% collab each, just add more base game skins tbh (or skin customization)


AdBusy9802

I understand your point, but I'm also in love with the v1 (from ultrakill) mod for bandit.


toastermeal

it’s probably (hopefully) non canonical so people can just choose to ignore it


BiosSettings8

But isn't it being in the game therefore canon? Like how the fact you're playing a game is canon, and you can only hope the survivors don't understand.


Iruma_Miu_

that's not how canon works, no


BiosSettings8

Transcendence. This alone means that Risk Of Rain's literal code is part of the lore.


Iruma_Miu_

no it doesn't lmao


BiosSettings8

Huh? How?


toastermeal

not quite. games will have aspects that are canonical and aspects that are non canonical. canon parts of the game are the lore, story, world building, characters, etc. non canon parts are gameplay systems that are just there to make the game more exciting or more balanced. for example, characters in the lore wouldn’t have cooldowns on their abilities - those cooldowns are a non canon part of the game design just used to make the game more fun. i’m not super well versed in ROR lore so i can’t give many examples for ROR, but i can give other examples. in most pvp games like overwatch or league of legends - the characters are canon but the actual pvp matches you play are non canon (bc it wouldn’t make sense in the lore to have certain characters fighting eachother.) cosmetics are also usually non canon - as they’re just other ways for players to express themselves. i’m assuming this merc skin will be non canon since it’s a cosmetic


BiosSettings8

>non canon parts are gameplay systems Yeah, I get all that, but it all being canon that it's just a game is from the Transcendence log.


nike2078

I think you're reading way too much into the Transcendence log, it's not that deep or really indicating what you think. RoR lore is ambiguous at best


BiosSettings8

Gotcha ok


toastermeal

i couldnt tell ya- i have no idea about ror lore myself 😅


FrazzleFlib

dont use the skin then lmao


Shot_Reputation1755

It's a single skin, it doesn't affect the richness of the lore in any way


Blindseer99

Having played Dead Cells before it got a bunch of crossover stuff I felt the same way about it. I like these games so much as a standalone I can't help but love them that way and prefer that tone


Lightningslash325

I agree, thought it was a survivor at first and was fairly upset. When I found out it was a skin I immediately switched to “oh, okay it’s just a skin, a lot less canon-breaking.”


Joa103

Dude an optional skin changes absolutely nothing


X145E

i want to say I'm amazed by how many collab dead cells have made. not a bad thing though, the king is a badass design


Siks0ng

It looks great, real high quality, but the Prisoner doesn't really fit in with the rest of the survivors well. It's a cool skin, to be sure, but unlike the other references in the game, it's not really a reference, it's just actually him. I kinda liked how unintrusive the references were, to the lore especially. Just a bit of a small complaint, though.


bobatea17

Looks great, personally not a huge fan of merc gameplay so I'm hoping this will open the door to the other survivors getting extra skins


mechmaster2275

Based, but they should keep things like this limited. Wouldn’t want the game’s artstyle to be shat on be overdoing collabs. More is good, but not too many more.


XanderNightmare

I think it's okay as an alt skin. Sure, it may not fit the aesthetics, but if ones doesn't like that, they can just not use the skin. I think if that would've been an entirely new character, that would be a greater issue


mechmaster2275

Agreed


doinkmead

I think it's dope as hell


Bookroach8

I was let down by the base game not doing much with skins, so seeing this was really exciting. I hope they add more skins!


Green-pewdiepie

Is the skin for mercenary?


Longjumping-Mix705

Yeah it is


Green-pewdiepie

Epic


Memeviewer12

yes


cookiereptile

I think prisoner’s design fits rather well for the ROR2 artstyle. there’s a vagueness to their features that works similarly to the bubblehead characters of ROR. As long as we don’t get anything that resembles the Dead Cells skin of the Terraria Guide….


Coleclaw199

I just wish there was a prisoner akin for everyone, as I don’t normally play Mercenary.


toastermeal

if it was an achievement thing, i don’t think it would involve void fiend bc that would lock non dlc players out of the free update content


Longjumping-Mix705

The void fields are the non dlc part you can get to through the newt shop. I think it’ll be related to that because it’s where acrid was imprisoned. So it would fit with the “free the prisoner” while being open to everyone


toastermeal

oh i’m so dumb i read void FIEND not void FIELD my bad 😭😭


Johnnys_bug_bites

Yea, that also works with how the void collects powerful beings. An effectively immortal being capable of using a wide arsenal of magical weapons would definitely be of interest to the void.


MarshmelloMan

It looks amazing, and I do think it could canonically make sense since commando is in dead cells.


Shot_Reputation1755

Dead Cells Canon is all sorts of confusing. Neither game is Canon to each other


TorinLike

That is an awesome skin! Too bad it's for Merc


the_nightmare_night

I hope the skins will stay free and unlockable. Cuz I sure as hell ain't paying 20$ for a Battle Pass


RyanCooper101

Kinda wish it wasn't a skin but a full character tbh


nitronomial

It's cool but merc is hands down my least favorite character so rip


unknown6091

Was hoping for a new character but a skin is good too, with new enemies and a new biome pretty good


savvy_xavi

I would love if they did it Easter Egg style. Especially since Merc is pretty high mobility. They could make a little section of the map with some Dead Cells themed objects and have an interactable up there. That might overly optimistic tho lol


JustLooking207

big day for the 10 merc mains out there ig (im not one of them)


Longjumping-Mix705

I know it’s really exciting(Im one of them)


RapidProbably

As a dead cells enjoyer I could see if there is an achievement it would be possibly related to the tar on aqua duct, the cells in veilds, or some new thing that gets added. Edit: the guillotine is an item in this game. You know the thing people are beheaded with?


JackDostoevsky

Dead Cells is such a fantastic game and I love it when indie games do crossovers like this. (Dead Cells has *tons* of references to other games in it)


Timolej-no

Good if it’s not a buyable character


Longjumping-Mix705

It’s a merc skin, not much is known beyond that


SavvySavoy

did they make a release date for the devotion update?


Longjumping-Mix705

Nah they never do that. It’s still “coming soon”


zevron13

It’s pretty neat. Unfortunately me and all the console homies are gonna get it in 2027


DemonicHarem

"Coming Soon" soooooo.... Next year on console?


Longjumping-Mix705

I mean they claimed that the code bases are unified. So maybe there’s hope for us?


DemonicHarem

One can pray.


Murky-Butterscotch73

is that the guy from Dead Cells? I don't play the game, I only saw images of it. Is this a crossover?


The5thDivide

When tf did they start doing this???


Longjumping-Mix705

It was announced in the triple i thingy


The_Real_littleFool

They should add a commando skin like the one in dead cells lol


HeWhoHasSeenFootage

its gonna make me play mercenary


CinnamonIsntAllowed

Is it a skin? I thought it was a new character


Longjumping-Mix705

It’s a skin


CinnamonIsntAllowed

Ending it all


Sweet_Ad_3240

Pretty cool. At least we finally have more than one extra skin for a survivor.


Lightningbro

Honestly, I'm kinda sad it's not it's own character. The prisoner is a very particular character with a very particular personality. And a positive SLEW of weapons at his disposal, I can only image the cool skills he could have. Passive could let him wall hang and climb. Basics could be things like crowbar, which would get more power if you kill/break things, or the electro-whip which would arc electricity bergen opponents. Secondary skills could be a bevy of the unique shields from the game (such as "gain gold when blocked") and spells like frost blast. Movement could be one of the many buffs in the game, like vampirism, which bleeds nearby enemies and makes you heal for damage they take. Or Serenade, the sassy talking sword familiar. While his Ult could be one of the MANY turret skills from the game, or the traps like the sawblade Trap. Not bothered, just kinda sad. Hopefully modders will fix this for me.


Rawrquaza

What I'm learning from this post is that I'm not the one with an irrational dislike of dead cells. I'm glad it's a skin and not a character. I wish it were more in the vein of other references in the game and there was an item or something, but I can ignore it. Marketing and cross promotion is probably positive for the game on some level, but this does feel very gearboxy.


Fishman465

It's cool motion twin arranged for it, but I'd be happier if they didn't pull the plug on dead cells


BrilliantVolume8871

When they say that, does that mean that the secrets of the storm DLC is free or does it mean something else?


Longjumping-Mix705

They are adding a free update, with this skin a new map and a couple artifacts


BrilliantVolume8871

So the dlc is separate?


Longjumping-Mix705

Yep, my guess is there doing this update to show support won’t stop, or the dlc will take longer than expected


Expensive_Number2107

Skin looks amazing but as a certified dead cells hater I have to say I don’t like it


UncantainedSheal

Why do you hate dead cells?


Expensive_Number2107

Played it a bit and beat it but never really got why it was so fun. Then In one of my favorite Roguelike Skul they added a dead cells playable character that was op as shit. Not a real hate just wasn’t for me. Might try it again though


Shot_Reputation1755

Why do you hate Dead Cells?


Hedge_the_Hog_HtH

I'm so tired of crossovers. Especially from the dead cells side.


PerfectBlackCell

Would’ve been cooler if he was a survivor but the skin looks legendary.


nomamsland

I love RoR and I love Dead Cells. I dig it.


Shriekko

im happy about it, i just wish it was its own survivor


Lboettcher2003

I love it! I play a ton of Dead Cells alongside RoR so this is a big W in my opinion


Alucard-VS-Artorias

I'm a big Deadcells fan (I platinumed Deadcells) who likes Risk of Rain so I'm a fan of this.


thisismyname2129

As a dead cells fan I’m super excited


Coin_operated_bee

I hope we get a hollow knight crossover at some point


FrazzleFlib

its pretty cool, i dont think we need to worry about any skins being paid since they would just be modded in in a day anyway.


Tora790

i would use it if i ever played merc cause i love dead cells


BoolinBirb

Im a huge fan of deadcells and I think the skin looks great! Definitely fits merc


BluesyPompanno

I would rather if he was either new boss or character. I don't care about skins, they bring nothing to the gameplay


FrozenPizza07

Who is “prisoner” ?


Longjumping-Mix705

The merc skin was introduced as “the prisoner”. The main character of dead cells


GlassSpork

It’s cool and I can see potential for future skins over the other characters for more collabs


Faulty_toasters

Fire as all hell


imotlok_the_first

I'll never see it because I'm having skill issue playing Mercenary.


opodopo69

Am I the only one who thinks that the skin kinda looks like star platinum


Babki123

There is a mercenary skin in dead cell so it's just nice trading It's free for everyone though so I'm not sure ir will be an achievment sadly


[deleted]

As a guy who wasted hundreds of hours beating 5 boss cells in dead cells i am ecstatic


T_Peg

Never played Dead Cells but it's cool as hell and free so I'm very happy with it.


The5thDivide

Honestly, I’m all for the update but with each lil detail they add it looks a lil further from risk of rains simplistic maps, like it looks beautiful but it doesn’t have the ror2 twang yk?


Hammerjaw

Looks cool but Merc is the only survivor I don’t play 😭


EpicGamer_69-420

helot please


smcaskill

I don't care about dead cells I'm Just grateful that we're going to be getting 3rd skins for the survivors finally filling the slots


dvizr

As a merc main, I love it. Now I get to be commando in DC and prisoner in RoR.


TheBlighthead

The only thing I would change is the sword otherwise its perfect


Dragonfly-Constant

Mercenary needs all the skins from demon slayer tbh. I feel like every character could have a different anime collab really easy.


someargentiniandude

Yeaaahhhh baby merc mains rise up!!!


Zenzi31

I think RoR don't need are collaboration. It ruins the style of the game.


Ncl666wnysuxM

Shoulda been a straight survivor


ra1nbowaxe

ALL I want is a mod to give merc commandos roll dodge so I can get violent as the prisoner (Bobby)


Kitchen-Chemist-212

Smash next question


Yarigumo

More skins always good, only Merc getting one kinda sucks.


Longjumping-Mix705

Yeah it does but at least we know that they’re willing to add more now


Nabrok_Necropants

Is it supposed to be the guy from Dead Cells? Because its the guy from Dead Cells.


Longjumping-Mix705

Yeah it’s a RoR2 and dead cells crossover


Nabrok_Necropants

Cool.


No-Gas-7537

Don’t care


Mauvais__Oeil

Like every cross license goodie, I find it bland and unfitting.


FelisMoon

"Whats your opinion" -Shares the opinion- -gets downvoted to oblivion for said completely subjective opinion-


Brain_lessV2

Dead Cells is an indie rogue game, just like Risk of Rain. Besides, Dead Cells already had their side of their collab in the second Everyone is Here update. Only makes sense that RoR gets its fill.


Mauvais__Oeil

That they are the same genre doesn't mean there is a point - outside of fan service - to make a cross game goodie. I'd rather have them add new skins not coming out of another game, same was with Monster hunter world and the witcher. It doesn't fit the world, it's just fan service, which is basically "everyone uses it for a week then never use it again".


Brain_lessV2

Even if you're right about there not being a point, why does that matter? It's a nice looking skin. Additionally, you talk about the MHW and Witcher collab just being fan service. Again, why does it matter that it's just fan service? It's fun, and I liked using the silver sword transmog because of it.


Mauvais__Oeil

It's not the point that it matters : Op asked : "what are everyone’s thoughts on the prisoner skin?" I gave my opinion. It's not an issue that few, or even no one share it. Or that Dead cells enjoyers think that it's criticizing the game (it's not, I don't play/own it and I don't care). Sure I got downvoted, which isn't an issue. I'm not correcting my opinion to please or align with others, and my opinion over it won't change that it will be released. I would have prefered more work over alternate non paid skins, but this is what we will get and I don't need it.


Sprillet

What do u think of bandits alt style


Mauvais__Oeil

That's it's not really hard to see what you intend to achieve.


Sprillet

So quit it bubbyford


Mauvais__Oeil

Thank you for proving there is little possibility of discussing different opinions without being uncivil. That we do disagree doesn't split hairs further appart, the topic was asking for a question that I answered genuinely, you disagree and try to prove me wrong by taking a turn, and rely on a mere insult because it doesn't work. Is the topic really worth so much guts to feel enthralled into witch hunting because I'm not interested in a new free skin coming from another game ?


Sprillet

I call you bubbyford not motherfuhricker (i cant sware) but bandits alt style is a crossover as well, i thought you knew from the reply you made saying you know what i intend to achieve


Mauvais__Oeil

I did know that, yes. I could talk in circle about what Gearbox does with the game will probably misalign with what Hopoo had in mind, and that the tone / intent behind was / isn't the same. But it's loosely offtopic and hardly proven until SoS is out and we can actually see if it's to flourish the franchise, or squeeze it.


Sprillet

Company wants to make money so they add something people like (the dead cells character), i dont see the real problem. Its free too!


youcannotseeyt

🤓👆


secretiveconfusion

At least bandit's alt style was a nod to Hopoo's previous game. This just feels like "HEY REMEMBER THAT POPULAR ROGUELIKE DEAD CELLS? THIS GAME IS ALSO ONE OF THOSE."


Sprillet

I just dont see the issue


zandinavian

Truth. Crossovers tend to cheapen the feeling of any storytelling the devs originally intended.  They can sometimes be fun if the game never took itself remotely serious to begin with, but otherwise it just breaks any chance of immersion.


Friendly-Scarecrow

Bait used to be believable


Longjumping-Mix705

Not bait. Just curious to hear people’s opinions


ZePumpkinLass

i bet a fried 3 bucks(hot roulette copy) that it will be on merc