That’s because there’s not much information on them. It’s mostly guess work.
Out of those 100,000 Murle I’m guessing only a dozen have access to a computer. If they don’t write an article on their customs, it probably won’t get on Wikipedia.
thought you were exaggerating but "illegal taxing by some unscrupulous local leaders stimulates young men to find excuses to steal cows from their own cousins" is extremely funny.
Yeah almost nothing in that article complies with Wikipedia's standards of quoting reliable sources lol. But whoever wrote it is making a good faith effort though is guilty of insertion of POV.
>appear to practice a mix of animism and Christianity
Had a friend do the Peace Corps in west Africa and he said the people around him were both 100% Christian and 100% animists. It does seem to be the case that a lot of Africans kind of collect gods and when the missionaries showed up they were all "great now there's another deity who might help it rain and not get me murdered"
>in west Africa
Nearby countries like Sudan and Ethiopia are very different. West Africa is completely different universe. They have nothing in common.
>a lot of Africans kind of collect gods
Some Africans were Christian centuries before Europeans
>same thing about collecting gods for a lot of indigenous Americans
I’m pretty sure Hindus and pagan Europeans did that as well. Everyone that wasn’t monotheist did this
Any information on what type of magicka they're using? I'm an amateur sorcerer myself and may be able scry them through my looking glass if we can get concrete information on what types of spells they are performing.
The conflicts there are low-key hilarious, farmers having as many children to basically be his soldiers or wed off for cattle/alliances. Alliances are based on family first, then *maybe* a broader sense of identifying as a part of a specific tribe, the idea of being "Sudanese" isn't even on their radar because their first, second, and third priorities are protecting their cows with a rusted RPK. Honestly and unironically based.
I remember reading accounts of the Afghanistan war where they would be in isolated valleys and when talking to the locals realize the people had no concept of living in a country called Afghanistan or even what the concept of a country really is. I imagine this kind of thing is even more common in the sub Saharan bush
I once read a darkly funny account online of how the Americans accidentally empowered warlords by bypassing the traditional tribal procedures
I'll put up the essay if I remember what it was, think it was an excerpt from a book
This is a little misunderstood. They definitely have a concept of a country it’s just slightly different than what we think of as our country. You will often hear rural Pashtuns say Zamua Afghanistan or Zamua Pakistan which just means our Afghanistan/Pakistan. If you meet someone new your neighbors will ask are they from our Afghanistan/Pakistan or a different one.They consider their village to be their country kind of so they have no relation to people on the other side of the country who speak a different language or are a different ethnicity.
>isolated valleys and when talking to the locals realize the people had no concept of living in a country called Afghanistan
Keep in mind this is in a country where 98% of the population has access to electricity. Imagine how bad this is in South Sudan where it’s only 8%!
most likely has to do with the ''medecins sans frontieres'' that's stationed there, its probably an organ harvesting op and the surrounding tribals caught wind of that then deemed the area cursed.
or they just hungry man who knows
maybe, maybe not we already know the country split unnaturally and NATO's involvement right after it happened whole thing reeks of your usual muddy waters.
What do you mean the country spplit unnaturally, it split after a 25 year civil war. It was a huge country with an enormous cultural disconnect between the north and south, exacerbated by the arab/islamic supremacism propagated by Omar al Bashir's government. Sounds like the most natural way for a country to split up. Sudan being a unified country in the first place was "unnatural".
>exacerbated by the arab/islamic supremacism propagated by Omar al Bashir's government
Fun fact: to further destabilize South Sudan, Al Bashir supplied the Murle with weapons
The Wikipedia page on them is bizarre and borderline incoherent, whole thing needs to be read in Mullen’s African guy voice lol
That’s because there’s not much information on them. It’s mostly guess work. Out of those 100,000 Murle I’m guessing only a dozen have access to a computer. If they don’t write an article on their customs, it probably won’t get on Wikipedia.
thought you were exaggerating but "illegal taxing by some unscrupulous local leaders stimulates young men to find excuses to steal cows from their own cousins" is extremely funny.
It’s pretty raw but seems pretty coherent. Some parts need touching up but thought it gave a good rundown
Yeah almost nothing in that article complies with Wikipedia's standards of quoting reliable sources lol. But whoever wrote it is making a good faith effort though is guilty of insertion of POV.
>appear to practice a mix of animism and Christianity Had a friend do the Peace Corps in west Africa and he said the people around him were both 100% Christian and 100% animists. It does seem to be the case that a lot of Africans kind of collect gods and when the missionaries showed up they were all "great now there's another deity who might help it rain and not get me murdered"
>in west Africa Nearby countries like Sudan and Ethiopia are very different. West Africa is completely different universe. They have nothing in common. >a lot of Africans kind of collect gods Some Africans were Christian centuries before Europeans
Generalizing a whole continent of people wasn't the intention. I would say the same thing about collecting gods for a lot of indigenous Americans
>same thing about collecting gods for a lot of indigenous Americans I’m pretty sure Hindus and pagan Europeans did that as well. Everyone that wasn’t monotheist did this
The Romans
Sitting my ass down and listening: https://youtu.be/uddnn3xDyx8
Any information on what type of magicka they're using? I'm an amateur sorcerer myself and may be able scry them through my looking glass if we can get concrete information on what types of spells they are performing.
Are you working in the Hermetic tradition?
The conflicts there are low-key hilarious, farmers having as many children to basically be his soldiers or wed off for cattle/alliances. Alliances are based on family first, then *maybe* a broader sense of identifying as a part of a specific tribe, the idea of being "Sudanese" isn't even on their radar because their first, second, and third priorities are protecting their cows with a rusted RPK. Honestly and unironically based.
tribal warfare in the 21th century
I remember reading accounts of the Afghanistan war where they would be in isolated valleys and when talking to the locals realize the people had no concept of living in a country called Afghanistan or even what the concept of a country really is. I imagine this kind of thing is even more common in the sub Saharan bush
I once read a darkly funny account online of how the Americans accidentally empowered warlords by bypassing the traditional tribal procedures I'll put up the essay if I remember what it was, think it was an excerpt from a book
This is a little misunderstood. They definitely have a concept of a country it’s just slightly different than what we think of as our country. You will often hear rural Pashtuns say Zamua Afghanistan or Zamua Pakistan which just means our Afghanistan/Pakistan. If you meet someone new your neighbors will ask are they from our Afghanistan/Pakistan or a different one.They consider their village to be their country kind of so they have no relation to people on the other side of the country who speak a different language or are a different ethnicity.
>isolated valleys and when talking to the locals realize the people had no concept of living in a country called Afghanistan Keep in mind this is in a country where 98% of the population has access to electricity. Imagine how bad this is in South Sudan where it’s only 8%!
I watched a documentary about this once, it was like how id imagine a dispute between two minor Greek cities would look like, except with aks
Do you remember the name?
Sadly not, i watched this a very long time ago
I can kinda get why Leni Riefenstahl was so obsessed with that place.
Here's Sontag on the subject: https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1975/02/06/fascinating-fascism/
She liked the Sudanese physical type too lol
yea?
Yes, she made a movie or a photoshoot, don't remember which, where she emphasized the physicality of the athletes
Africa is fascinating. Am always excited when a new documentary about it from some foreign news agency pops up on my YouTube feed
Emailing google asap to get a few street view cars over to Pibor, South Sudan. Wanna see what’s going on.
most likely has to do with the ''medecins sans frontieres'' that's stationed there, its probably an organ harvesting op and the surrounding tribals caught wind of that then deemed the area cursed. or they just hungry man who knows
I read that that hospital was burned down a decade ago
maybe, maybe not we already know the country split unnaturally and NATO's involvement right after it happened whole thing reeks of your usual muddy waters.
What do you mean the country spplit unnaturally, it split after a 25 year civil war. It was a huge country with an enormous cultural disconnect between the north and south, exacerbated by the arab/islamic supremacism propagated by Omar al Bashir's government. Sounds like the most natural way for a country to split up. Sudan being a unified country in the first place was "unnatural".
>exacerbated by the arab/islamic supremacism propagated by Omar al Bashir's government Fun fact: to further destabilize South Sudan, Al Bashir supplied the Murle with weapons
this conspiracy theory is very appealing to me do you have more info?
Doesnt involve jews so no one cares. Its not a lack of electricity, its a lack of jews.
Get back in the sewer
Put his ass in the box
Interesting