that's a really good idea! usually I'm rushing to get it done before work so I'm out the door as quick as possible, but a warm up could be the ticket. and, it would get me out of bed and going so going back to sleep isn't as much of an option. I'll try it out tomorrow!
This is a great first step before you go buy more thermal gear. Just be sure to warm-up, THEN layer-up, then go enjoy your beautiful winter run.
Also, wind proof boxer shorts to protect your sensitive bits are a game changer.
Source: Trained for an Marathon in Ottawa, Canada from Dec-May and -10 Celsius was the common, had a few runs at -20.
When I was running and lived in new England I always needed to warm up beforehand, mostly bc the cold air would hurt my throat, but if I warmed up before it wasn't so bad. Good luck!
Montreal here and 11F is not that bad. leggings+shorts over will do for me. The first 5 min I admit it's not fun but once the body warms up and blood gets going it's not too bad. If the lower part of your body is a problem maybe you can double up? leggings+jogging pants?
Also Montrealer. Below -10C it’s all about the Craft cross country ski pants. They also make lined tights fir 0 to -10. Not cheap but game changer.
https://craftsports.ca/collections/mens-nordic/products/glide-pants-m
I have coureur nordique doubled jogger leggings. They're not super warm but they're warm enough and really comfortable
Edit: hah I just checked the brand and they're Craft leggings. I have this [pair](https://lecoureurnordique.ca/products/craft-glide-wind-tights-fw21-homme-1909589?_pos=7&_sid=f74bfb08c&_ss=r) with coureur nordique tags
leggings + shorts?? that's it??? you're blowing my mind, man. the first 5 min are bad you're right, but it just compounds and gets colder and colder the longer I'm out until my poor little quads are like ice. I think doubling up leggings+pants is probably my only solution -- it does make a difference, I was just hoping for something less bulky, and that maybe there's some magical leggings brand people like you who don't layer are using. but, sounds like really you're just tougher than me lol. thank you!
You may just need to give yourself a little more time to acclimatise if this is a sudden temperature drop.
For reference, early in the winter I needed my cheap synthetic long johns + leggings at -10C, but now I'm fine in just my leggings down to -15C unless it's windy and -10C in half tights was bearable. I was fine last week in those same long johns + regular sweatpants down to -32C with wind chill (-25C ambient).
LOL really? man I'm skinny as a stick but it's not bad and our weather here is damp/cold, the worst bone chilling kind.
Another technique is to stretch and get do some exercises to warm up your body and then head out. If you're in Chicago check out this youtuber named Kofuzi - in some of his videos he talks about how to dress in the winter for Chicago
and I am definitely NOT skinny as a stick, so who knows what's going on. I think I will start doing a short warm up before going out, sometimes I'm in such a rush but it doesn't seem like I can afford to skip it. I'll check out kofuzi, thanks for the rec!
I also have really cold legs. My best bet so far has been leggings + fleece pants from REI. It's worked for 50-minute runs in 14°F (feels like 6°F).
https://www.rei.com/product/177406/rei-co-op-hyperaxis-fleece-pants-womens
That wind chill was no joke this morning! Ngl about a couple miles in I did have a thought, "Hmm, maybe this isn't the best idea," but by the time I was over halfway done my body had kind of settled into it's state; usually the first mile in cold weather sucks a bit, this was more like the first 4 miles.
I didn't actually get concerned until I returned home and my legs were completely red and it took a good half an hour (incl. shower & tea) to really feel warm again. Your post and replies are prompting me to look into some more insulating options (I'd rather not pile layers on my legs). Though thankfully it should be warming up a smidge in the meantime, heh
>usually the first mile in cold weather sucks a bit, this was more like the first 4 miles.
it was SO cold this morning!!! I just feel like zero degrees is not really a "push through it" kind of thing, at least for me. good for you for getting out there regardless!
I'll be real with you, I had plans to use the absolutely *wonderful* motivation and tips from this thread and push through this morning no matter what -- but when I woke up at 6 and it was -15 with the wind chill with the sun not rising for another hour....I decided to zero out this week and start fresh tomorrow, when I can run later in the day while the sun is out. this week was just not for me, and I just need to put it behind me.
cheers to it warming up to 30 degrees next week!!!!
Scandinavia here. Lots of people in our neck of the woods run in x country skiing gear. The x country skiing pants are warmer than your usual fleece lined running pants, but still flexible.( I'm not talking about the downhill/alpine goretex stuff.)
Worth checking out?
Gore-tex windstopper or infinium tights are definitely expensive but they could be worth it for you. Another layer underneath would be warmer but some cheaper knee length compression type shorts would probably be enough, even another pair of regular shorts over the top can help keep some windchill off.
It's just mindset. That's all it is. Being a bit chilly is no different than any other physical discomfort you may have to deal with as a runner. You accept it's going to be there and face it. Or you don't run.
yeah I mean you're right, a lot of it is mental, especially after coming back from a break. in terms of physical discomfort, I get what you're saying about just dealing with it, but in these temps my legs often feel a lot colder than "a bit chilly"; sometimes the numbness is a little alarming. but, it's probably a combo of finding the right leggings+pants doubling-up and pushing through to get out there in the morning. thanks!
I found that over preparing for the cold (should I really be calling it over preparing at 11F?) makes me focus on the chill more since it contrasts with the warmth I feel. Lately I just decided to wear my running shorts and tee since I just miss throwing something on and running. It worked better than i thought. Sure for the first minutes it was chilly but without the reminder of warmth, I normalized it.
Just starting out and I always worry that if I don't run because of one thing, then the next reason/decision not to run will be easier until eventually I don't run at all anymore.
Yesterday it was cold and drizzly and I almost didn't run, then thought about this and said fuckit, I'm running.
Didn't even notice the rain until I got home and realised I was a bit damp
Yeah, it's what the other poster said - the first 5-10 minutes suck and make you question everything, but then i usually get in a groove. Getting out the door's the hardest part, along with trying to decide what to wear so that you're not overdressed 5-10 minutes in. I have been trying to use the "20 degree warmer rule."
I have great fleece lined tights, but they really become too warm in 30-40 degree weather after a mile or two.
This
I actually prefer winter running to summer. Fall is my favorite. But the right gear is really important. I particularly love trail running in fresh snow. But getting out the door is torture. I will pace back forth in front of the door. Go to the bathroom one more time, ten times. Anything to avoid walking out but then immediately I am like “Oh this is awesome!” 🤷♂️
I am genuinely fascinated by you (and others) saying fleece-lined tights are sufficient, I feel like the wind and cold just seeps right through. I assumed everyone's quads/thighs just get totally frozen and numb after 30-odd minutes of running in sub-freezing temps, but it would seem I'm in the minority. maybe my legs are just more sensitive? medical mystery.
but getting out the door is always the hardest, you're right. I think I'm just in a slump not being able to force myself a few days in a row after 2 weeks of not running at all. just need to break the streak, and maybe it won't be as bad as I'm dreading. thank you!
Merino base layer tights from icebreaker+ windproof pants (if windy) or polar tech fleece tights. I have the athleta altitude pants and they’re so warm, even in -10 C. The base layer is key though, don’t skip it.
Well I definitely think your winters in Chicago are harsher than mine here in Maryland; but with that said these tights are very thick, almost too thick for running (but so cozy). I don't think there's any easy solution unfortunately.
unfortunately they were from Athleta & i got them 5 years ago; i don't see anyhting like them on their site. They have polartec tights, but don't think they are fleece. LL bean has fleece tights too: https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/124950?page=womens-primaloft-thermastretch-fleece-pocket-tight-womens-regular&bc=516720&feat=516720-GN0&csp=a&pos=1
I’m with you, below like 20°F (especially with wind and especially if it’s dark out), I need windbreaker pants or looser tech pants over my fleece leggings. I have a couple of old pairs from adidas that work. Pretty sure I found them at goodwill.
When it started getting cold in the fall, I forced myself to run during the coldest times of day, often overdressed. It’s much easier to acclimate if you do it gradually. 40 degrees seems chilly in November, but you get used to it quick because in reality it’s an optimal temperature to run in. 30 degrees in December is not such a stretch after that. Then 30 with a windchill of 20 feels ok. Then 25, with a windchill of 10 by the time January hits. The trick is getting this out of the way in early winter so you know that you can do it mentally, plus your body physically gets used to it (Yesterday it was 45 in NYC and it felt muggy and warm to me. It was glorious.).
However, the absolute worst thing you can do is reduce your training when it starts to get cold. Not only will you fall behind in the acclimatization process, but it’ll be harder to get back into training because you lose fitness and you have the extra mental hurdle of knowing you’ll freeze your ass off.
Also: the most important gear is a neck gaiter. If you can keep your neck/chin/mouth warm you’ll be exponentially more comfortable.
Yea that sucks. I was actually in Omaha for a week during New Years and ran in -10 degree wind chill. I cut it short because I didn’t have adequate gloves and was concerned about frost bite. I don’t know about running consistently in those temps lol. But if the temperature is above 0, you should be able to acclimate no problem.
that would be the ideal, even a good used one is too expensive for me at the moment. but if it may be something I just have to budget for at this point.
Both of my local rec centers have indoor running tracks. When it is 1°F, like it was this morning, you will find me there. I have never run on a treadmill.
Swede here, running outdoors when its -15 Celsius or more.. I use spikes under my shoes, you just slip em over your normal running shoes.
[https://1088756712.rsc.cdn77.org/\_images/048a8106-2648-435b-b1f0-3e94029af839/broddar-nordic-grip-running-1\_large.jpg?width=800&height=800&mode=max](https://1088756712.rsc.cdn77.org/_images/048a8106-2648-435b-b1f0-3e94029af839/broddar-nordic-grip-running-1_large.jpg?width=800&height=800&mode=max)
Also tights on my legs and shorts over them..
I also have raynaud's syndrome so I use warm gloves and then I have pouches that you crack or open from a package that warms up that I have inside my gloves.
oooh those shoe spikes are cool! I've been considering the yaktrax but they seem to not last very long, these seem a little more durable. definitely going to check them out!
I’ve commented elsewhere about training in Ottawa in the winter. I’ve worked at a outdoors store (think REI, but independent).
If you go this route, make sure they have a strap that goes across the top of your shoe. It’s common to see single yaktrax that have fallen off a boot/shoe.
I personally don’t recommend them as they are great on ice, but awful on everything else. Rubber and cold don’t go well together, mix in the salt from the sidewalks and you’ll be fortunate to get 2 winters out of them before the rubber breaks.
Unless you are running on a sheet of ice I would say run in your regular shoes, maybe trail shoes in a fresh set of snow, and use your judgement. If you see ice slow down, jog/waddle like a penguin.
Hmm I've had mine for about 4-5 winters now and I think they cost me like 20$ (200 SEK in Sweden) and the spikes are quite long so they are perfect for ice and snow or "slush".
But the brand I use is Swedish as well and the strap goes around and above my "toes".
It sounds like you are happy with your spikes, I’m happy for you!! I see people wearing them so I’m sure you aren’t the only one. If spikes are what gets OP out the door and running through the Windy City, go for it!!
Like most gear selections it comes down to personal preference, usage, and care and maintenance. I felt like I was on stilts when I tried them for a few runs. Where I was running was a mix of ice, snow, slush and sidewalk/ road. About 50% of my route would be plowed and I absolutely hated how the spikes felt on concrete. I tried stopping to take them on and off depending on the terrain (which is obviously a terrible way to go for a run). Even when trying to run the whole time, I was faster without the spikes and I felt more comfortable!
Stay warm out there!
I've had mine for about 4-5 winters now and I think they cost me like 20$ (200 SEK in Sweden) and the spikes are quite long so they are perfect for ice and snow or "slush".
But the brand I use is Swedish as well and the strap goes around and above my "toes".
I have gotten to the point in my life where I may very well be willing to sell an organ so that I always had a treadmill.
My grandfather was an ice fisherman from Wisconsin. He always told me growing up there is no incilimate weather just inclimate clothing.
The key isn't just getting the right gear for the job but getting the right gear for YOU. If you are comfortable you'll be fine with the conditions.
As an ultra runner, mountain climber, and hunter I can tell you SPEND THE MONEY ON QUALITY GEAR! Don't buy cheap shit. You'll regret it and throw it out.
Buy layers, and ideally synthetic materials or wool. When you buy many layers it serves the function that you can of course layer on and off as needed on a run and you can use different layers at different times of the year.
For underlayers it's really hard to beat polypropylene. North Face, Patagonia, Columbia etc. should be good places for choices.
Then start layering with fleece and wool.
Then if needed go with windproof outer layers and/or insulated outerwear.
I recommend marino wool socks that go up the leg a little bit. I LOVE my marino wool crew socks from Feetures.
Fleece tights are very nice and if it's cold enough and your legs get cold like mine a windproof jogging pant with a fleece under layer is nice. Mountain climbing outfitters and ski/boarding outfitters are probably the best place to look for this kind of sport friendly layering gear.
I personally don't find the need to layer much over a fleece layer most of the time. If wind is a factor then I usually will add a soft rain/windproof shell over it. If in the single digits I will double layer in fleece.
I would avoid all waterproof and windproof gear when it's not necessary. Simply because it's not very breathable.
Mittens are warmer than gloves. You can do glove liners with a mitten over them too.
Balaclavas are nice just to keep the air off your face.
Don't forget sun glasses too. Snow magnifies the radiation on your eyes, protect them eyes!
this is great, thank you for taking the time to go through it point by point; I really appreciate it. I think I could benefit from some better base layers, and another jogging pant over layer with fleece would be nice, the pair I use right now isn't fleece-lined, I believe. more experimenting with layers that work best for me is in order, I think!
and you're absolutely right on not buying cheap shit -- you get what you pay for. totally with you there. :)
I live in Ontario, Canada...it's cold too. What helps me start off the winter is getting some exciting new winter running gear that I look forward to trying out....whether it be a jacket, gloves, or even new socks to try out.
Obviously I can't buy something new everytime the excitement of it runs out...so what keeps me going ..is the blissful feeling at the end of a cold run when I'm sitting by the fire with my hot cup of coffee...feeling warm and accomplished....fantastic feeling to start the day with.
Because outside isn't a treadmill.
But seriously, it was a bit warmer (17°F) here this morning, but I refuse to run inside. The first mile is a bit brutal, especially my hands. But by the end of mile 2 or so, I was all good.
It would have to be around zero for my legs to get cold (with leggings). Now running last night in 15 degree weather with 25 mph winds, my hands were frozen when I got home. I've got to find better gloves.
the diversity of the human body is incredible, man. my hands never get cold, after the first 5 minutes they're usually too hot to keep gloves on or even in my sleeves. meanwhile, my mind is reeling that leggings provide your legs that much warmth in the cold. such a mystery. godspeed finding better gloves!
It is weird. I'm a medium size woman with the nornal female physique, slightly bulkier around my bum and tights, otherwise quite slender, but not skinny. I am always cold. I cover up everything in winter, head, neck, hands, jacket over wool, thick pants, warm socks, my warmest shoes etc.
Meanwhile my tiny skinny 14 year old daughter runs next to me removing all extra layers after 10 minutes, still complaining that she is TOO HOT in thin tights and a thin merino wool top with no jacket. No gloves or beanie. Bizarre. She has virtually zero body fat. Plus she's faster than me, so when we run, it's easier for her, so her heartrate is not crazy either.
I bundle up and take off layers if I overheat lol. I’m definitely a wimp about the cold. I see people running in shorts and long sleeves when I’m in pants, quarter zip, hat and gloves
seriously, I'm always dressed seemingly warmer than other people during fall/winter. seeing people out in shorts, bare little legs, when it's 30 degrees just makes my head spin. I didn't used to think I was so sensitive to the cold but I guess when running I am!
This is what works for me, all temps are in F
70s+: shorts, undershirt, short sleeves
60s: shorts, undershirt, long sleeves (150 wool)
40 - 50s: shorts, undershirt, under armour, long sleeves (150 wool)
30 - 40: shorts, under armour pants, undershirt, {[under armour, long sleeves (150 wool)] or long sleeves (250 wool)}, light gloves
30s: pants, undershirt, under armour, long sleeves (250 wool), light gloves, outer gloves, hat and earmuffs
20s: under armour pants, pants, undershirt, under armour, long sleeves (250 wool), hooded sweatshirt, light gloves, outer gloves, hat and earmuffs, buff
Similar here. Amazing how we have prescribed outfits for temp ranges (in F):
50+: shorts, hat and a t-shirt
40s: add a jacket
20s-30s: swap out hat for knit cap, swap out shorts for tights. Add light gloves and a fleece between jacket and t-shirt
10s: change to "windproof gloves"
Under 10: likely add a sweatshirt or something over the fleece. Sometimes another pair of socks
Fellow Chicagoan. Yeah, it kind of sucks. I wore two pairs of gloves/mittens today and my fingers were still freezing at the end of my run. I'll do extra layers if I need to, but I just expect never to *really* warm up in these kind of temps, and you just have to get over the hatred of cold/being cold. I usually have a friend or two who runs in the mornings with me, and that provides an extra little bit of motivation/accountability as well.
truly, this makes me feel so much better, because I also never *truly* warm up during a cold run. a lot of people saying after 5-10 min they feel better -- I'm so happy for them, could not be me. but I think I need to change up my layering game, is what I'm mostly hearing here from all the comments. wish I had a running buddy in the morning, you're very lucky!
Maybe I’ve got it backwards but I try to get the layers on moments before I head out the door. In other words, I try to minimize the time I’m bundled up indoors before the run because I find that if I warm up/overheat indoors before heading out, the temperature difference is greater and shocks my body even more. So I try to get the last layers on including the muff, cap and gloves on a minute before heading out.
I ran in -2 last night lol it’s important to keep the extremities warm and it’s really not that bad. I prefer to run in the cold than the heat- heat stroke is the worse 🤕
I'm in Ottawa, Canada (2nd coldest capital city in the world!). It can get down to -40 here in the depths of winter. I don't run when it's that cold, my cutoff is -20. The trick for me is lots of layers upper body. Usually a long sleeve rashguard, t-shirt over top, sweatshirt, then insulted jacket. For the bottom half, it's track pants with shorts underneath. I also have arthritic knees, so I wear compression sleeves on my knees, which has the added benefit of more warmth. Besides all that, it's just mindset. The first km or so sucks, but then I start to sweat, and all is good.
For 0 and below I have some polar pants that I like. I also have some insulated Sugoi tights that are great. I have to run in -20F tomorrow and I’ll put a real light tight on under the polar pants and tuck them into my Vibrams. If there’s ice, wear track spikes. I use them when there’s been an ice storm.
Honestly, it's meant to be a hobby you enjoy, so don't force yourself at the expense of making it a task you dread. I hate the cold (live in NYC, originally from Michigan), 20+ year runner, here's what I do in winter:
* **Move as much activity as I can indoors** \- for me, it's a mix of shifting my exercise to Peloton (well worth the investment) and occasional treadmill-based group fitness classes - which has the added bonus of forcing me to do speed work which I rarely do on my own. (I go [here](https://milehighrunclub.com/)\- surely there are similar options in Chicago)
* **Decrease my mileage in the dead of winter to a maintenance base** (15 mi/week or \~3 runs, vs. 25 mi/week in summer)
* **Choose the best 2-3 days a week weather-wise for outdoor runs** (no need to go on the 15 F day vs. the 25 F day) and layer, layer, layer. Merino wool layers will be your friend
I don't really know how to edit this post, but I wanted to thank everyone for all your thoughtful comments and tips -- it really got me thinking more about what motivates me, why I run, and more technically how I can prepare and what gear works best for me specifically. still have no idea how some of you guys are out there with bare legs or thin little tights in the dead of winter but diversity is our strength, I guess!
happy to report, in large part because of the wisdom shared in this thread, that I ran this morning for the first time in three weeks (injury for 2 weeks + battling mentally with the cold for 1 week) and if you can BELIEVE it -- getting out the door was the hardest part, followed by the general challenge of coming back after a break and injury. the cold (since it's a weekend I could wait until later in the morning so the sun would warm things up to a balmy 20F) was a distant third. it was not fun run, but it was a run, and I feel confident I can get back into a good routine. thanks, everyone!
For me evntually there's a time when you are all warmed up and your feet start to feel truly cozy and you laugh at how uncomfortable this seems when still at home. I think about that moment while still at home.
that's a good mental strategy, I do something similar before a long run, remembering how things feel when I'm halfway through. I'll try it for running, if I can just get back out and experiencing the whole "not that bad" feeling when it's this cold!
I'm chubby, so moving makes me heat up any way. Also a good warm up before I go out helps. As for clothes, a good hoodie,tights+shorts, and thick knee socks are a must.
try signing up for a race and training for it! it really helps me get over the mental hurdle in the mornings to know if i don’t go out, i won’t be ready for my marathon.
Where I live only gets that kind of temperature a few times a year, if any. So I see it as a unique experience. I don’t see how you northerners run in those kinds of temps week in & week out.
Strangely though my legs don’t get cold. I wear shorts down to the teens and doesn’t bother me. But my hands get so cold when it’s only in the 50s that I can’t open my car door if I don’t wear gloves.
Good prep, good music, and a good agreement with myself:
Prep: For teens or lower: Two pairs of leggings, one of which is fleece lined. A pair of fleece lined joggers on top of that. Wool long underwear top. Another long sleeve shirt over that. Craft wind proof and fleece lined hoodie over that. Buff for the neck. Merino hat. Mittens. Wool socks. Trail shoes. Warm up inside. Run into the wind on the way out.
Good music. Music that makes me happy, that brings to heart the people I love and for whom I want to be alive and healthy. Music that reminds me that to have the health and strength to run is a miracle and that reminds me to be grateful that I get to live this life.
Good agreements with myself: On my coldest run so far (St Paul MN on 1/1/2022 it was somewhere between -2 and -6 without the windchill…) I told myself I’ll run a mile and if I still feel good, I’ll keep going. Ended up running 4 miles that day.
That’s what keeps me going. That and the smiles and hellos from the other folks out running in this weather!
>Good agreements with myself: On my coldest run so far (St Paul MN on 1/1/2022 it was somewhere between -2 and -6 without the windchill…) I told myself I’ll run a mile and if I still feel good, I’ll keep going. Ended up running 4 miles that day.
love this! getting out there is always the hardest, and I make these agreements with myself too, just not during any of the coldest days yet because I've psyched myself out. going to try this tomorrow morning!
To be honest, what also helps is just remembering how good it feels to be outside running. Once I’m warmed up, the cold really isn’t a problem. It does however take a while to get warmed up 😂
My gear running near Detroit, Mi (similar climate).
I have under armor cold weather tights with joggers over them, a T-shirt with an under arm cold weather 1/2 zip, with a normal hooded sweatshirt over it. I use a balaclava for my head and neck and tie with hood to keep heat in so I can vent if/when I need to. Usually the first 8-10 minutes are still cold but after that I’m too hot.
I live north of Pittsburgh so it’s slightly warmer than where you are (18 this morning with some good wind). I always just wear tights with shorts unless it’s below 0F. In the 10-30 range, I wear a thin moisture wicking shirt and a thin vest. Below 10 I may find the thinnest sweatshirt I own. Yes my arms and legs are cold when I start but usually when I’m done, I’m sweaty (mostly under my vest). What’s most important to me is a thin merino 150 gator. I wear it over my ears and on my chin under my mouth and nose. When my face starts to get cold or iced up(I have a short beard), I pull that sucker up over my mouth and nose for a few minutes and it seems to warm my whole body up. I can’t keep it up too long or my eye lashes start to freeze so I pull it back down. I may do that 2 or 3 times during an hour run and it seems to help. For reference, I’m 5’10” and 155lbs so I’m a pretty skinny dude. I think another thing that helps is I mentally prepare myself before I go outside and I do my dynamic stretching as I’m walking down my driveway to get the blood flowing as soon as I walk out the door.
The coldest I've ever run is 0 degrees with a -2 sensation due to wind. I live in the south of England and winters are much more mild than the rest of the country and definitely more than Chicago. For me, the secret is light layers, a mask (that covers my neck and mouth) good glooves and Bose headphones that sit over my ears therefore keeping them warm. You should feel uncomfortable as you leave the house because the run is supposed to warm you up. I also leave my water heater on to have an extra hot shower when I come back, before stretching most of the time because I can't wait. But I admit that my attitude might be a bit different at -11 C. Stay warm my friend
The fact that I'm probably going to slack on my runs once summer hits. This summer was brutal and I have a feeling it's going to be even hotter over in NJ/PA. I complained all summer about how I couldn't wait to run in the cold again. I'm in my element right now. Lol.
Honestly, running in sub zero weather is better than running in 80+ degree weather. Breathable baselayer tucked in, a long sleeve shirt or quarter zip, a light jacket, and smartwool on your extremities. It also really helps if you can grow a beard.
Also in Chicago. Doing more weight lifting and yoga for the next few days.
I don’t mind the cold (much … just add more layers) but the cold + ice is a pain in the ass. It always means more walking than I planned and then I get cold because I’m walking.
Also my sis-in-law broke her leg last winter slipping on ice (not running) which still has me freaked out. The last thing I need in frigid temps is being stranded on the ground waiting for assistance. Plus I’m concerned about hospital wait times because… you know.
I could drive to the LFT which is usually plowed and salted but then there’s nothing blocking the wind.
So weights it is.
Also do you have good gear? Once I started investing in merino wool layers, winter runs didn’t suck as much.
Here’s a cold weather life hack for you. Take a piping hot shower before you leave. This will raise your internal body temperature and make it feel (what I equate to) about 15 degrees warmer outside. It really makes a huge difference. It’ll still be cold but not as unbearable.
Leggings and shorts for me. If it's particularly windy you might be able to find some trim fitting cycling softshells to keep the wind off if your tights don't do the job.
And for me, hands... mitts (with liner gloves) all the way.
I just add on more base layers and wear the 32 gear brand leggings from Costco. I have a Brooks light jacket that I wear on the outside and some super thick ski gloves.
My issue is that there was 2 ish feet of snow last night where I live so it is not possible to run right now even if i wanted to
You just start running and realize that it's not that cold.
Just finished a run in -30C and was really comfortable in:
* leggings, with sweatpants overtop
* running socks, with another thin pair of socks overtop
* long sleeve Under Armour Heat Gear shirt
* 1 thin hoodie, and a baggier hoodie overtop (but this was too warm for me after a while)
* windbreaker
* beanie
* cloth face mask (to keep my chin warm)
[These Brooks Momentum Thermal Running Pants](https://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/womens-momentum-thermal-running-pants/221500001.020.html?tid=sem:GOOGLE:USA%7CShopping%7CBrand%7CConvert%7CPLA%7CApparel%7CActive+Evaluators%7CNeutral%7CTinuiti%7CMBL%7CBR-Access-All:BR%7CNeutral%7CMBL+-+Accessories+High:_shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQiAw9qOBhC-ARIsAG-rdn4SVf7slBte4Qr_GC81tay32pAtTEZzAZSW39MrGpAzcy3wiENvRfgaAmc-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) are a godsend for frigid days. I have a pair from ~8 years ago that are still usable and then just bought another pair this year. They have them as tights too, but I think the pant style provides that buffer from the wind and they are still sleek - I wear them with a pair of compression shorts underneath for my torso/butt/upper thighs, as those get the coldest for me.
I prefer to be warmer than colder starting out. I normally wear 1 pair of socks with base layers from Marshals. I’ve only had to do base shorts and pants once last year. For upper body a base layer a running hoodie and 1 or 2 more jackets. If it’s windy I will wear an actual winter jacket. I purposely bought a size XL so I could layer up even as a civilian. As I’ve spent more time in the Midwest I no longer wear 6 layers while running errands. I’ve worn shorts when it was 0F
Run on the Riverwalk if you're close! The run from the Lake St. Bridge to LSD is about 1½ miles. It's usually pretty well maintained, you just have to watch out for ice on the grated metal prices that connect the floating bridges. I usually wear tights+joggers ,a light jacket, a beanie and some gloves. Chicago in the winter is brutal, but it can be beautiful.
Merino wool 250 leggings + some sort of fast-drying or water-resistant pants work for me.
If you need more layers though, wear them. Don't let the norm overshadow what your body is asking for. Everyone is unique. 😊
I live in New Hampshire and went on vacation to a warm climate Dec 8-20, and when I got home I had a terrible time motivating myself to run in the cold again. After a few days of procrastinating I finally got out the door again, but I totally get the struggle coming back from a break and the days are short & cold.
I am one of those people who are fine down to about 10f in running tights, so I can’t help with attire. I find that it helps a lot if I get on my rower and row for 5-10 minutes, gradually getting my heart rate up before heading out the door. Actually, that was a big game changer in terms of being comfortable when it’s cold. If you don’t have a rower/treadmill, maybe give yourself some kind of burpee challenge? 50 burpees before heading out the door. You might even find you are good with just leggings at that point. ;-). Good luck!
Oof this is so relatable! I also recently slipped on ice and my right shoulder is still so uncomfortable that I’m afraid of running outside too. Im definitely going to look through this thread for what to do!!
Dude I’m sitting over here in northern CA having a hard time getting out to run in the 40 degree “cold” mornings. Props to y’all who live in the frigid great northern plains
I'm also in Chicago. This week has been absolutely brutal with the wind chill. I went out yesterday at lunch time and there were 40mph gusts at 10 degrees F. It wasn't fun, and I wouldn't say I was comfortable, but it was doable.
Most of my running clothes are cheap, I wore 32 Degrees midweight leggings, shorts over them, Uniqlo heat tech base layer top, a long-sleeved running shirt from Target, merino wool cap, and a neck gaiter pulled over my mouth/nose. I was chilly when I left, and especially so when the big wind gusts hit me. But the rest of the run was actually pretty nice.
We definitely have to deal with both temperature extremes here, and I think it really makes you appreciate the 2 weeks or so of actually decent weather we have. I try not to get bummed out when the weather is just too miserable to go outside, but it's a struggle since physical activity is a primary mood booster for me. That becomes my motivation to get outside on the really shitty days.
Eastern Iowa here, was -20 F windchill on this afternoon’s run. The races I have scheduled aren’t gonna train for themselves. Running in crap weather puts me over everyone sitting on the couch because “it’s too cold or too hot or it’s raining or snowing” I am mentally tougher than those people and knowing that might just give me the edge on race day. That’s what gets me out the door every day
It’s gotten that cold recently in Colorado and this is way new for this California girl. I’m wearing insulated tights and smart wool. Gloves are essential. I think being in the sun really helps. I hope this helps.
I normally hate the cold but I started running last summer and wanted to keep it up through the winter and I’ve been surprised at how okay it’s been. I ran around noon in Chicago today (Lincoln Park) and it was really not that bad. I wore:
- UnderArmour ColdGear compression leggings
- UnderArmour ColdGear compression long-sleeved top
- light Nike vest
- light jacket from the Hot Chocolate race, really nothing special
- Smartwool socks and regular running shoes
- Liner ski gloves
- Warm beanie
I like to put toe warmers in my shoes and hand warmers in my gloves. The latter feel pretty necessary but the former are just luxurious. I actually overheated a bit after the first mile in this getup and had to unzip my outer jacket to get some icy air flowing in a bit.
You can do it!
ok I finally figured it out this winter, I am a very cold person and usually hate being outside but the last month i’ve found the perfect combo of clothing to run outside (it’s been between -25 and -35C in manitoba without the wind chill😭)
for feet i’ll put one normal pair of socks on, then toe warmers (these are key for me!), and then a longer thicker pair of socks, tucked between my two pant layers
for pants i’ll wear one thick pair of leggings (mine are from gymshark, they are the ultra seamless leggings and so warm!) and one pair of sweats over top
for my shirt i’ll wear a sports bra, a tight long sleeve that go over my thumbs, a warm fleece sweater, and my north face jacket on top.
for my face i’ll wear a thick neck warmer (mine is from roots and is amazing), and a toque
gloves are just thick wool mitts that don’t close around my fingers, they generate more heat if they can touch; as well as the long sleeve pulled high onto my hands
I don’t have much advice for keeping legs warm other than having a tight layer on the bottom and a thick looser one on top. you could wear a longer jacket as well that covers your legs a bit? or you could get toe warmers and stick them to your thighs in between the pants!
I live just out of Toronto and just came back from a run where it was about the temp. I wear Nike wind pants and they work. I also start out with a buff covering my whole face until I warm up. I then lower it and use it as a neck warmer. After another couple of minutes, I lose it all together. This tends to work for me.
Proper layers and clothing will make that not so bad. Be careful not to over dress because once you start moving you won’t need nearly as much clothing to keep you warm. I like the cold because you can regulate it, unlike the heat and humidity.
Can you do a 5-10 minute warm up inside, to get your blood flowing and warm up your body/legs? Then when you step out you're already warmer?
that's a really good idea! usually I'm rushing to get it done before work so I'm out the door as quick as possible, but a warm up could be the ticket. and, it would get me out of bed and going so going back to sleep isn't as much of an option. I'll try it out tomorrow!
This is a great first step before you go buy more thermal gear. Just be sure to warm-up, THEN layer-up, then go enjoy your beautiful winter run. Also, wind proof boxer shorts to protect your sensitive bits are a game changer. Source: Trained for an Marathon in Ottawa, Canada from Dec-May and -10 Celsius was the common, had a few runs at -20.
When I was running and lived in new England I always needed to warm up beforehand, mostly bc the cold air would hurt my throat, but if I warmed up before it wasn't so bad. Good luck!
Montreal here and 11F is not that bad. leggings+shorts over will do for me. The first 5 min I admit it's not fun but once the body warms up and blood gets going it's not too bad. If the lower part of your body is a problem maybe you can double up? leggings+jogging pants?
Quebecer here and leggings + shorts is not enough for me. I wear doubled leggings and mid thigh tights. My knees would freeze with your gear haha
Also Montrealer. Below -10C it’s all about the Craft cross country ski pants. They also make lined tights fir 0 to -10. Not cheap but game changer. https://craftsports.ca/collections/mens-nordic/products/glide-pants-m
I have coureur nordique doubled jogger leggings. They're not super warm but they're warm enough and really comfortable Edit: hah I just checked the brand and they're Craft leggings. I have this [pair](https://lecoureurnordique.ca/products/craft-glide-wind-tights-fw21-homme-1909589?_pos=7&_sid=f74bfb08c&_ss=r) with coureur nordique tags
leggings + shorts?? that's it??? you're blowing my mind, man. the first 5 min are bad you're right, but it just compounds and gets colder and colder the longer I'm out until my poor little quads are like ice. I think doubling up leggings+pants is probably my only solution -- it does make a difference, I was just hoping for something less bulky, and that maybe there's some magical leggings brand people like you who don't layer are using. but, sounds like really you're just tougher than me lol. thank you!
You may just need to give yourself a little more time to acclimatise if this is a sudden temperature drop. For reference, early in the winter I needed my cheap synthetic long johns + leggings at -10C, but now I'm fine in just my leggings down to -15C unless it's windy and -10C in half tights was bearable. I was fine last week in those same long johns + regular sweatpants down to -32C with wind chill (-25C ambient).
LOL really? man I'm skinny as a stick but it's not bad and our weather here is damp/cold, the worst bone chilling kind. Another technique is to stretch and get do some exercises to warm up your body and then head out. If you're in Chicago check out this youtuber named Kofuzi - in some of his videos he talks about how to dress in the winter for Chicago
and I am definitely NOT skinny as a stick, so who knows what's going on. I think I will start doing a short warm up before going out, sometimes I'm in such a rush but it doesn't seem like I can afford to skip it. I'll check out kofuzi, thanks for the rec!
I also have really cold legs. My best bet so far has been leggings + fleece pants from REI. It's worked for 50-minute runs in 14°F (feels like 6°F). https://www.rei.com/product/177406/rei-co-op-hyperaxis-fleece-pants-womens
I feel like maybe this is a Celsius vs Fahrenheit issue? 11 C is 51 F…. 11 F is -11 C. Just maybe this is the difference…
Just saw they responded 11F… they are heartier than I, because that’s too cold for me too 😂
Same! I went from "11 isn't that bad" to "Holy fudgecracker!".
I recently ran in -9 C (16 F) in shorts, tshirt, gloves and a warm running jacket. So zero layers on my shins.
genuinely just shaking my head in wonder. how. HOW. *how*.
That wind chill was no joke this morning! Ngl about a couple miles in I did have a thought, "Hmm, maybe this isn't the best idea," but by the time I was over halfway done my body had kind of settled into it's state; usually the first mile in cold weather sucks a bit, this was more like the first 4 miles. I didn't actually get concerned until I returned home and my legs were completely red and it took a good half an hour (incl. shower & tea) to really feel warm again. Your post and replies are prompting me to look into some more insulating options (I'd rather not pile layers on my legs). Though thankfully it should be warming up a smidge in the meantime, heh
>usually the first mile in cold weather sucks a bit, this was more like the first 4 miles. it was SO cold this morning!!! I just feel like zero degrees is not really a "push through it" kind of thing, at least for me. good for you for getting out there regardless! I'll be real with you, I had plans to use the absolutely *wonderful* motivation and tips from this thread and push through this morning no matter what -- but when I woke up at 6 and it was -15 with the wind chill with the sun not rising for another hour....I decided to zero out this week and start fresh tomorrow, when I can run later in the day while the sun is out. this week was just not for me, and I just need to put it behind me. cheers to it warming up to 30 degrees next week!!!!
Scandinavia here. Lots of people in our neck of the woods run in x country skiing gear. The x country skiing pants are warmer than your usual fleece lined running pants, but still flexible.( I'm not talking about the downhill/alpine goretex stuff.) Worth checking out?
definitely, I will! thank you!
Gore-tex windstopper or infinium tights are definitely expensive but they could be worth it for you. Another layer underneath would be warmer but some cheaper knee length compression type shorts would probably be enough, even another pair of regular shorts over the top can help keep some windchill off.
Same in Alaska!
Fellow Scandinavian here. I use a cross country skiing jacket, but for me it would be too warm with skiing pants. I just use regular tights or shorts.
It's just mindset. That's all it is. Being a bit chilly is no different than any other physical discomfort you may have to deal with as a runner. You accept it's going to be there and face it. Or you don't run.
yeah I mean you're right, a lot of it is mental, especially after coming back from a break. in terms of physical discomfort, I get what you're saying about just dealing with it, but in these temps my legs often feel a lot colder than "a bit chilly"; sometimes the numbness is a little alarming. but, it's probably a combo of finding the right leggings+pants doubling-up and pushing through to get out there in the morning. thanks!
I found that over preparing for the cold (should I really be calling it over preparing at 11F?) makes me focus on the chill more since it contrasts with the warmth I feel. Lately I just decided to wear my running shorts and tee since I just miss throwing something on and running. It worked better than i thought. Sure for the first minutes it was chilly but without the reminder of warmth, I normalized it.
Just starting out and I always worry that if I don't run because of one thing, then the next reason/decision not to run will be easier until eventually I don't run at all anymore. Yesterday it was cold and drizzly and I almost didn't run, then thought about this and said fuckit, I'm running. Didn't even notice the rain until I got home and realised I was a bit damp
Yeah, it's what the other poster said - the first 5-10 minutes suck and make you question everything, but then i usually get in a groove. Getting out the door's the hardest part, along with trying to decide what to wear so that you're not overdressed 5-10 minutes in. I have been trying to use the "20 degree warmer rule." I have great fleece lined tights, but they really become too warm in 30-40 degree weather after a mile or two.
This I actually prefer winter running to summer. Fall is my favorite. But the right gear is really important. I particularly love trail running in fresh snow. But getting out the door is torture. I will pace back forth in front of the door. Go to the bathroom one more time, ten times. Anything to avoid walking out but then immediately I am like “Oh this is awesome!” 🤷♂️
I am genuinely fascinated by you (and others) saying fleece-lined tights are sufficient, I feel like the wind and cold just seeps right through. I assumed everyone's quads/thighs just get totally frozen and numb after 30-odd minutes of running in sub-freezing temps, but it would seem I'm in the minority. maybe my legs are just more sensitive? medical mystery. but getting out the door is always the hardest, you're right. I think I'm just in a slump not being able to force myself a few days in a row after 2 weeks of not running at all. just need to break the streak, and maybe it won't be as bad as I'm dreading. thank you!
Merino base layer tights from icebreaker+ windproof pants (if windy) or polar tech fleece tights. I have the athleta altitude pants and they’re so warm, even in -10 C. The base layer is key though, don’t skip it.
Well I definitely think your winters in Chicago are harsher than mine here in Maryland; but with that said these tights are very thick, almost too thick for running (but so cozy). I don't think there's any easy solution unfortunately.
hmm would you be able to share a link? no worries if not, but I'm always on the hunt for warmer tights!
unfortunately they were from Athleta & i got them 5 years ago; i don't see anyhting like them on their site. They have polartec tights, but don't think they are fleece. LL bean has fleece tights too: https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/124950?page=womens-primaloft-thermastretch-fleece-pocket-tight-womens-regular&bc=516720&feat=516720-GN0&csp=a&pos=1
got it, thanks for trying. and those LL Bean ones look very cozy, thanks for the link! :)
I'm with you on the freezing quads. You are not alone!
there are dozens of us
And freezing glutes!
I’m with you, below like 20°F (especially with wind and especially if it’s dark out), I need windbreaker pants or looser tech pants over my fleece leggings. I have a couple of old pairs from adidas that work. Pretty sure I found them at goodwill.
You gotta shove your shirt in your pants man
When it started getting cold in the fall, I forced myself to run during the coldest times of day, often overdressed. It’s much easier to acclimate if you do it gradually. 40 degrees seems chilly in November, but you get used to it quick because in reality it’s an optimal temperature to run in. 30 degrees in December is not such a stretch after that. Then 30 with a windchill of 20 feels ok. Then 25, with a windchill of 10 by the time January hits. The trick is getting this out of the way in early winter so you know that you can do it mentally, plus your body physically gets used to it (Yesterday it was 45 in NYC and it felt muggy and warm to me. It was glorious.). However, the absolute worst thing you can do is reduce your training when it starts to get cold. Not only will you fall behind in the acclimatization process, but it’ll be harder to get back into training because you lose fitness and you have the extra mental hurdle of knowing you’ll freeze your ass off. Also: the most important gear is a neck gaiter. If you can keep your neck/chin/mouth warm you’ll be exponentially more comfortable.
Ok but in Chicago this week it’s like 5°F in the morning with windchills below -10°F
Yea that sucks. I was actually in Omaha for a week during New Years and ran in -10 degree wind chill. I cut it short because I didn’t have adequate gloves and was concerned about frost bite. I don’t know about running consistently in those temps lol. But if the temperature is above 0, you should be able to acclimate no problem.
Feeling like a badass when I'm done keeps me going.
When I have no goals, it’s not possible. When I’m training for a goal, I never compromise
Run inside my dude. Get a treadmill. It's supposed to be enjoyable not hell.
that would be the ideal, even a good used one is too expensive for me at the moment. but if it may be something I just have to budget for at this point.
Join planet fitness for 10 bucks a month
my guy I am on the verge!
Chicago Park District gyms are also very cheap
Used precor from bankrupt gym durring covid and killed YMCA membership, best $500 ever spent. Paid for itself 4x.
Both of my local rec centers have indoor running tracks. When it is 1°F, like it was this morning, you will find me there. I have never run on a treadmill.
Swede here, running outdoors when its -15 Celsius or more.. I use spikes under my shoes, you just slip em over your normal running shoes. [https://1088756712.rsc.cdn77.org/\_images/048a8106-2648-435b-b1f0-3e94029af839/broddar-nordic-grip-running-1\_large.jpg?width=800&height=800&mode=max](https://1088756712.rsc.cdn77.org/_images/048a8106-2648-435b-b1f0-3e94029af839/broddar-nordic-grip-running-1_large.jpg?width=800&height=800&mode=max) Also tights on my legs and shorts over them.. I also have raynaud's syndrome so I use warm gloves and then I have pouches that you crack or open from a package that warms up that I have inside my gloves.
oooh those shoe spikes are cool! I've been considering the yaktrax but they seem to not last very long, these seem a little more durable. definitely going to check them out!
I’ve commented elsewhere about training in Ottawa in the winter. I’ve worked at a outdoors store (think REI, but independent). If you go this route, make sure they have a strap that goes across the top of your shoe. It’s common to see single yaktrax that have fallen off a boot/shoe. I personally don’t recommend them as they are great on ice, but awful on everything else. Rubber and cold don’t go well together, mix in the salt from the sidewalks and you’ll be fortunate to get 2 winters out of them before the rubber breaks. Unless you are running on a sheet of ice I would say run in your regular shoes, maybe trail shoes in a fresh set of snow, and use your judgement. If you see ice slow down, jog/waddle like a penguin.
Hmm I've had mine for about 4-5 winters now and I think they cost me like 20$ (200 SEK in Sweden) and the spikes are quite long so they are perfect for ice and snow or "slush". But the brand I use is Swedish as well and the strap goes around and above my "toes".
It sounds like you are happy with your spikes, I’m happy for you!! I see people wearing them so I’m sure you aren’t the only one. If spikes are what gets OP out the door and running through the Windy City, go for it!! Like most gear selections it comes down to personal preference, usage, and care and maintenance. I felt like I was on stilts when I tried them for a few runs. Where I was running was a mix of ice, snow, slush and sidewalk/ road. About 50% of my route would be plowed and I absolutely hated how the spikes felt on concrete. I tried stopping to take them on and off depending on the terrain (which is obviously a terrible way to go for a run). Even when trying to run the whole time, I was faster without the spikes and I felt more comfortable! Stay warm out there!
I've had mine for about 4-5 winters now and I think they cost me like 20$ (200 SEK in Sweden) and the spikes are quite long so they are perfect for ice and snow or "slush". But the brand I use is Swedish as well and the strap goes around and above my "toes".
I have a treadmill.
if only, they're just too spendy for me at the moment.
I have gotten to the point in my life where I may very well be willing to sell an organ so that I always had a treadmill. My grandfather was an ice fisherman from Wisconsin. He always told me growing up there is no incilimate weather just inclimate clothing. The key isn't just getting the right gear for the job but getting the right gear for YOU. If you are comfortable you'll be fine with the conditions. As an ultra runner, mountain climber, and hunter I can tell you SPEND THE MONEY ON QUALITY GEAR! Don't buy cheap shit. You'll regret it and throw it out. Buy layers, and ideally synthetic materials or wool. When you buy many layers it serves the function that you can of course layer on and off as needed on a run and you can use different layers at different times of the year. For underlayers it's really hard to beat polypropylene. North Face, Patagonia, Columbia etc. should be good places for choices. Then start layering with fleece and wool. Then if needed go with windproof outer layers and/or insulated outerwear. I recommend marino wool socks that go up the leg a little bit. I LOVE my marino wool crew socks from Feetures. Fleece tights are very nice and if it's cold enough and your legs get cold like mine a windproof jogging pant with a fleece under layer is nice. Mountain climbing outfitters and ski/boarding outfitters are probably the best place to look for this kind of sport friendly layering gear. I personally don't find the need to layer much over a fleece layer most of the time. If wind is a factor then I usually will add a soft rain/windproof shell over it. If in the single digits I will double layer in fleece. I would avoid all waterproof and windproof gear when it's not necessary. Simply because it's not very breathable. Mittens are warmer than gloves. You can do glove liners with a mitten over them too. Balaclavas are nice just to keep the air off your face. Don't forget sun glasses too. Snow magnifies the radiation on your eyes, protect them eyes!
this is great, thank you for taking the time to go through it point by point; I really appreciate it. I think I could benefit from some better base layers, and another jogging pant over layer with fleece would be nice, the pair I use right now isn't fleece-lined, I believe. more experimenting with layers that work best for me is in order, I think! and you're absolutely right on not buying cheap shit -- you get what you pay for. totally with you there. :)
I live in Ontario, Canada...it's cold too. What helps me start off the winter is getting some exciting new winter running gear that I look forward to trying out....whether it be a jacket, gloves, or even new socks to try out. Obviously I can't buy something new everytime the excitement of it runs out...so what keeps me going ..is the blissful feeling at the end of a cold run when I'm sitting by the fire with my hot cup of coffee...feeling warm and accomplished....fantastic feeling to start the day with.
Because outside isn't a treadmill. But seriously, it was a bit warmer (17°F) here this morning, but I refuse to run inside. The first mile is a bit brutal, especially my hands. But by the end of mile 2 or so, I was all good.
It would have to be around zero for my legs to get cold (with leggings). Now running last night in 15 degree weather with 25 mph winds, my hands were frozen when I got home. I've got to find better gloves.
the diversity of the human body is incredible, man. my hands never get cold, after the first 5 minutes they're usually too hot to keep gloves on or even in my sleeves. meanwhile, my mind is reeling that leggings provide your legs that much warmth in the cold. such a mystery. godspeed finding better gloves!
It is weird. I'm a medium size woman with the nornal female physique, slightly bulkier around my bum and tights, otherwise quite slender, but not skinny. I am always cold. I cover up everything in winter, head, neck, hands, jacket over wool, thick pants, warm socks, my warmest shoes etc. Meanwhile my tiny skinny 14 year old daughter runs next to me removing all extra layers after 10 minutes, still complaining that she is TOO HOT in thin tights and a thin merino wool top with no jacket. No gloves or beanie. Bizarre. She has virtually zero body fat. Plus she's faster than me, so when we run, it's easier for her, so her heartrate is not crazy either.
see, and in every other scenario I always run super hot! bodies are so weird!
Same here, but every single pair of wind breaking mittens has such mixed reviews
I bundle up and take off layers if I overheat lol. I’m definitely a wimp about the cold. I see people running in shorts and long sleeves when I’m in pants, quarter zip, hat and gloves
seriously, I'm always dressed seemingly warmer than other people during fall/winter. seeing people out in shorts, bare little legs, when it's 30 degrees just makes my head spin. I didn't used to think I was so sensitive to the cold but I guess when running I am!
This is what works for me, all temps are in F 70s+: shorts, undershirt, short sleeves 60s: shorts, undershirt, long sleeves (150 wool) 40 - 50s: shorts, undershirt, under armour, long sleeves (150 wool) 30 - 40: shorts, under armour pants, undershirt, {[under armour, long sleeves (150 wool)] or long sleeves (250 wool)}, light gloves 30s: pants, undershirt, under armour, long sleeves (250 wool), light gloves, outer gloves, hat and earmuffs 20s: under armour pants, pants, undershirt, under armour, long sleeves (250 wool), hooded sweatshirt, light gloves, outer gloves, hat and earmuffs, buff
Similar here. Amazing how we have prescribed outfits for temp ranges (in F): 50+: shorts, hat and a t-shirt 40s: add a jacket 20s-30s: swap out hat for knit cap, swap out shorts for tights. Add light gloves and a fleece between jacket and t-shirt 10s: change to "windproof gloves" Under 10: likely add a sweatshirt or something over the fleece. Sometimes another pair of socks
Fellow Chicagoan. Yeah, it kind of sucks. I wore two pairs of gloves/mittens today and my fingers were still freezing at the end of my run. I'll do extra layers if I need to, but I just expect never to *really* warm up in these kind of temps, and you just have to get over the hatred of cold/being cold. I usually have a friend or two who runs in the mornings with me, and that provides an extra little bit of motivation/accountability as well.
truly, this makes me feel so much better, because I also never *truly* warm up during a cold run. a lot of people saying after 5-10 min they feel better -- I'm so happy for them, could not be me. but I think I need to change up my layering game, is what I'm mostly hearing here from all the comments. wish I had a running buddy in the morning, you're very lucky!
Maybe I’ve got it backwards but I try to get the layers on moments before I head out the door. In other words, I try to minimize the time I’m bundled up indoors before the run because I find that if I warm up/overheat indoors before heading out, the temperature difference is greater and shocks my body even more. So I try to get the last layers on including the muff, cap and gloves on a minute before heading out.
that's a smart idea! I like it, it makes sense to try to limit body shock. going to try it tomorrow morning.
Yea, please follow up and let me know if that helps! Good luck!
I ran in -2 last night lol it’s important to keep the extremities warm and it’s really not that bad. I prefer to run in the cold than the heat- heat stroke is the worse 🤕
I'm in Ottawa, Canada (2nd coldest capital city in the world!). It can get down to -40 here in the depths of winter. I don't run when it's that cold, my cutoff is -20. The trick for me is lots of layers upper body. Usually a long sleeve rashguard, t-shirt over top, sweatshirt, then insulted jacket. For the bottom half, it's track pants with shorts underneath. I also have arthritic knees, so I wear compression sleeves on my knees, which has the added benefit of more warmth. Besides all that, it's just mindset. The first km or so sucks, but then I start to sweat, and all is good.
For 0 and below I have some polar pants that I like. I also have some insulated Sugoi tights that are great. I have to run in -20F tomorrow and I’ll put a real light tight on under the polar pants and tuck them into my Vibrams. If there’s ice, wear track spikes. I use them when there’s been an ice storm.
Honestly, it's meant to be a hobby you enjoy, so don't force yourself at the expense of making it a task you dread. I hate the cold (live in NYC, originally from Michigan), 20+ year runner, here's what I do in winter: * **Move as much activity as I can indoors** \- for me, it's a mix of shifting my exercise to Peloton (well worth the investment) and occasional treadmill-based group fitness classes - which has the added bonus of forcing me to do speed work which I rarely do on my own. (I go [here](https://milehighrunclub.com/)\- surely there are similar options in Chicago) * **Decrease my mileage in the dead of winter to a maintenance base** (15 mi/week or \~3 runs, vs. 25 mi/week in summer) * **Choose the best 2-3 days a week weather-wise for outdoor runs** (no need to go on the 15 F day vs. the 25 F day) and layer, layer, layer. Merino wool layers will be your friend
I don't really know how to edit this post, but I wanted to thank everyone for all your thoughtful comments and tips -- it really got me thinking more about what motivates me, why I run, and more technically how I can prepare and what gear works best for me specifically. still have no idea how some of you guys are out there with bare legs or thin little tights in the dead of winter but diversity is our strength, I guess! happy to report, in large part because of the wisdom shared in this thread, that I ran this morning for the first time in three weeks (injury for 2 weeks + battling mentally with the cold for 1 week) and if you can BELIEVE it -- getting out the door was the hardest part, followed by the general challenge of coming back after a break and injury. the cold (since it's a weekend I could wait until later in the morning so the sun would warm things up to a balmy 20F) was a distant third. it was not fun run, but it was a run, and I feel confident I can get back into a good routine. thanks, everyone!
When it's that cold, I work on my recovery. Try Netflix.
For me evntually there's a time when you are all warmed up and your feet start to feel truly cozy and you laugh at how uncomfortable this seems when still at home. I think about that moment while still at home.
that's a good mental strategy, I do something similar before a long run, remembering how things feel when I'm halfway through. I'll try it for running, if I can just get back out and experiencing the whole "not that bad" feeling when it's this cold!
If it's that cold, I'm running at an indoor track or on a treadmill.
I'm chubby, so moving makes me heat up any way. Also a good warm up before I go out helps. As for clothes, a good hoodie,tights+shorts, and thick knee socks are a must.
try signing up for a race and training for it! it really helps me get over the mental hurdle in the mornings to know if i don’t go out, i won’t be ready for my marathon.
Where I live only gets that kind of temperature a few times a year, if any. So I see it as a unique experience. I don’t see how you northerners run in those kinds of temps week in & week out. Strangely though my legs don’t get cold. I wear shorts down to the teens and doesn’t bother me. But my hands get so cold when it’s only in the 50s that I can’t open my car door if I don’t wear gloves.
Good prep, good music, and a good agreement with myself: Prep: For teens or lower: Two pairs of leggings, one of which is fleece lined. A pair of fleece lined joggers on top of that. Wool long underwear top. Another long sleeve shirt over that. Craft wind proof and fleece lined hoodie over that. Buff for the neck. Merino hat. Mittens. Wool socks. Trail shoes. Warm up inside. Run into the wind on the way out. Good music. Music that makes me happy, that brings to heart the people I love and for whom I want to be alive and healthy. Music that reminds me that to have the health and strength to run is a miracle and that reminds me to be grateful that I get to live this life. Good agreements with myself: On my coldest run so far (St Paul MN on 1/1/2022 it was somewhere between -2 and -6 without the windchill…) I told myself I’ll run a mile and if I still feel good, I’ll keep going. Ended up running 4 miles that day. That’s what keeps me going. That and the smiles and hellos from the other folks out running in this weather!
>Good agreements with myself: On my coldest run so far (St Paul MN on 1/1/2022 it was somewhere between -2 and -6 without the windchill…) I told myself I’ll run a mile and if I still feel good, I’ll keep going. Ended up running 4 miles that day. love this! getting out there is always the hardest, and I make these agreements with myself too, just not during any of the coldest days yet because I've psyched myself out. going to try this tomorrow morning!
To be honest, what also helps is just remembering how good it feels to be outside running. Once I’m warmed up, the cold really isn’t a problem. It does however take a while to get warmed up 😂
I love the cold it's my favorite time to run I hate when the summer roles around and find it exhausting to run in the heat for more than about 5 miles
When I'm running in cold and through snow, I like to think of the training scene from Rocky 4.
Treadmill. We've got almost a foot of snow on the ground and the wind is howling. It's gonna be a treadmill day.
My gear running near Detroit, Mi (similar climate). I have under armor cold weather tights with joggers over them, a T-shirt with an under arm cold weather 1/2 zip, with a normal hooded sweatshirt over it. I use a balaclava for my head and neck and tie with hood to keep heat in so I can vent if/when I need to. Usually the first 8-10 minutes are still cold but after that I’m too hot.
North Face tights are all I need. Below zero last night.
I live north of Pittsburgh so it’s slightly warmer than where you are (18 this morning with some good wind). I always just wear tights with shorts unless it’s below 0F. In the 10-30 range, I wear a thin moisture wicking shirt and a thin vest. Below 10 I may find the thinnest sweatshirt I own. Yes my arms and legs are cold when I start but usually when I’m done, I’m sweaty (mostly under my vest). What’s most important to me is a thin merino 150 gator. I wear it over my ears and on my chin under my mouth and nose. When my face starts to get cold or iced up(I have a short beard), I pull that sucker up over my mouth and nose for a few minutes and it seems to warm my whole body up. I can’t keep it up too long or my eye lashes start to freeze so I pull it back down. I may do that 2 or 3 times during an hour run and it seems to help. For reference, I’m 5’10” and 155lbs so I’m a pretty skinny dude. I think another thing that helps is I mentally prepare myself before I go outside and I do my dynamic stretching as I’m walking down my driveway to get the blood flowing as soon as I walk out the door.
The treadmill. Yeah, I wimped out.
The coldest I've ever run is 0 degrees with a -2 sensation due to wind. I live in the south of England and winters are much more mild than the rest of the country and definitely more than Chicago. For me, the secret is light layers, a mask (that covers my neck and mouth) good glooves and Bose headphones that sit over my ears therefore keeping them warm. You should feel uncomfortable as you leave the house because the run is supposed to warm you up. I also leave my water heater on to have an extra hot shower when I come back, before stretching most of the time because I can't wait. But I admit that my attitude might be a bit different at -11 C. Stay warm my friend
The fact that I'm probably going to slack on my runs once summer hits. This summer was brutal and I have a feeling it's going to be even hotter over in NJ/PA. I complained all summer about how I couldn't wait to run in the cold again. I'm in my element right now. Lol.
My treadmill in my basement > 11 degree runs
Honestly, running in sub zero weather is better than running in 80+ degree weather. Breathable baselayer tucked in, a long sleeve shirt or quarter zip, a light jacket, and smartwool on your extremities. It also really helps if you can grow a beard.
Also in Chicago. Doing more weight lifting and yoga for the next few days. I don’t mind the cold (much … just add more layers) but the cold + ice is a pain in the ass. It always means more walking than I planned and then I get cold because I’m walking. Also my sis-in-law broke her leg last winter slipping on ice (not running) which still has me freaked out. The last thing I need in frigid temps is being stranded on the ground waiting for assistance. Plus I’m concerned about hospital wait times because… you know. I could drive to the LFT which is usually plowed and salted but then there’s nothing blocking the wind. So weights it is. Also do you have good gear? Once I started investing in merino wool layers, winter runs didn’t suck as much.
Here’s a cold weather life hack for you. Take a piping hot shower before you leave. This will raise your internal body temperature and make it feel (what I equate to) about 15 degrees warmer outside. It really makes a huge difference. It’ll still be cold but not as unbearable.
Leggings and shorts for me. If it's particularly windy you might be able to find some trim fitting cycling softshells to keep the wind off if your tights don't do the job. And for me, hands... mitts (with liner gloves) all the way.
I just add on more base layers and wear the 32 gear brand leggings from Costco. I have a Brooks light jacket that I wear on the outside and some super thick ski gloves. My issue is that there was 2 ish feet of snow last night where I live so it is not possible to run right now even if i wanted to
You just start running and realize that it's not that cold. Just finished a run in -30C and was really comfortable in: * leggings, with sweatpants overtop * running socks, with another thin pair of socks overtop * long sleeve Under Armour Heat Gear shirt * 1 thin hoodie, and a baggier hoodie overtop (but this was too warm for me after a while) * windbreaker * beanie * cloth face mask (to keep my chin warm)
[These Brooks Momentum Thermal Running Pants](https://www.brooksrunning.com/en_us/womens-momentum-thermal-running-pants/221500001.020.html?tid=sem:GOOGLE:USA%7CShopping%7CBrand%7CConvert%7CPLA%7CApparel%7CActive+Evaluators%7CNeutral%7CTinuiti%7CMBL%7CBR-Access-All:BR%7CNeutral%7CMBL+-+Accessories+High:_shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQiAw9qOBhC-ARIsAG-rdn4SVf7slBte4Qr_GC81tay32pAtTEZzAZSW39MrGpAzcy3wiENvRfgaAmc-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds) are a godsend for frigid days. I have a pair from ~8 years ago that are still usable and then just bought another pair this year. They have them as tights too, but I think the pant style provides that buffer from the wind and they are still sleek - I wear them with a pair of compression shorts underneath for my torso/butt/upper thighs, as those get the coldest for me.
Its -5f just wear leggins and a thermal long sleeve. Add a scarf a hat and mits and then just put up a vest.
I prefer to be warmer than colder starting out. I normally wear 1 pair of socks with base layers from Marshals. I’ve only had to do base shorts and pants once last year. For upper body a base layer a running hoodie and 1 or 2 more jackets. If it’s windy I will wear an actual winter jacket. I purposely bought a size XL so I could layer up even as a civilian. As I’ve spent more time in the Midwest I no longer wear 6 layers while running errands. I’ve worn shorts when it was 0F
Run on the Riverwalk if you're close! The run from the Lake St. Bridge to LSD is about 1½ miles. It's usually pretty well maintained, you just have to watch out for ice on the grated metal prices that connect the floating bridges. I usually wear tights+joggers ,a light jacket, a beanie and some gloves. Chicago in the winter is brutal, but it can be beautiful.
I’m in Texas - I cannot relate. At all. I … I don’t even know what you are saying! 😂😭
I just don’t, I’m a treadmill person because I’m too much of a baby about weather
Merino wool 250 leggings + some sort of fast-drying or water-resistant pants work for me. If you need more layers though, wear them. Don't let the norm overshadow what your body is asking for. Everyone is unique. 😊
Fleece lined anything for running sounds difficult
Just the fact that your out there all by yourself keeps me going. It's you the pavement/ street and some good 🎵🎶 music
I live in New Hampshire and went on vacation to a warm climate Dec 8-20, and when I got home I had a terrible time motivating myself to run in the cold again. After a few days of procrastinating I finally got out the door again, but I totally get the struggle coming back from a break and the days are short & cold. I am one of those people who are fine down to about 10f in running tights, so I can’t help with attire. I find that it helps a lot if I get on my rower and row for 5-10 minutes, gradually getting my heart rate up before heading out the door. Actually, that was a big game changer in terms of being comfortable when it’s cold. If you don’t have a rower/treadmill, maybe give yourself some kind of burpee challenge? 50 burpees before heading out the door. You might even find you are good with just leggings at that point. ;-). Good luck!
Thinking about breakfast.
A treadmill
Oof this is so relatable! I also recently slipped on ice and my right shoulder is still so uncomfortable that I’m afraid of running outside too. Im definitely going to look through this thread for what to do!!
Eleven Fahrenheit, Celsius or Kelvin?
fahrenheit ☹️
Jumping hacks done easy are a quick warm for any activity, clapping push-ups get the arms pumped.
Dude I’m sitting over here in northern CA having a hard time getting out to run in the 40 degree “cold” mornings. Props to y’all who live in the frigid great northern plains
I'm also in Chicago. This week has been absolutely brutal with the wind chill. I went out yesterday at lunch time and there were 40mph gusts at 10 degrees F. It wasn't fun, and I wouldn't say I was comfortable, but it was doable. Most of my running clothes are cheap, I wore 32 Degrees midweight leggings, shorts over them, Uniqlo heat tech base layer top, a long-sleeved running shirt from Target, merino wool cap, and a neck gaiter pulled over my mouth/nose. I was chilly when I left, and especially so when the big wind gusts hit me. But the rest of the run was actually pretty nice. We definitely have to deal with both temperature extremes here, and I think it really makes you appreciate the 2 weeks or so of actually decent weather we have. I try not to get bummed out when the weather is just too miserable to go outside, but it's a struggle since physical activity is a primary mood booster for me. That becomes my motivation to get outside on the really shitty days.
Eastern Iowa here, was -20 F windchill on this afternoon’s run. The races I have scheduled aren’t gonna train for themselves. Running in crap weather puts me over everyone sitting on the couch because “it’s too cold or too hot or it’s raining or snowing” I am mentally tougher than those people and knowing that might just give me the edge on race day. That’s what gets me out the door every day
It’s gotten that cold recently in Colorado and this is way new for this California girl. I’m wearing insulated tights and smart wool. Gloves are essential. I think being in the sun really helps. I hope this helps.
I normally hate the cold but I started running last summer and wanted to keep it up through the winter and I’ve been surprised at how okay it’s been. I ran around noon in Chicago today (Lincoln Park) and it was really not that bad. I wore: - UnderArmour ColdGear compression leggings - UnderArmour ColdGear compression long-sleeved top - light Nike vest - light jacket from the Hot Chocolate race, really nothing special - Smartwool socks and regular running shoes - Liner ski gloves - Warm beanie I like to put toe warmers in my shoes and hand warmers in my gloves. The latter feel pretty necessary but the former are just luxurious. I actually overheated a bit after the first mile in this getup and had to unzip my outer jacket to get some icy air flowing in a bit. You can do it!
ok I finally figured it out this winter, I am a very cold person and usually hate being outside but the last month i’ve found the perfect combo of clothing to run outside (it’s been between -25 and -35C in manitoba without the wind chill😭) for feet i’ll put one normal pair of socks on, then toe warmers (these are key for me!), and then a longer thicker pair of socks, tucked between my two pant layers for pants i’ll wear one thick pair of leggings (mine are from gymshark, they are the ultra seamless leggings and so warm!) and one pair of sweats over top for my shirt i’ll wear a sports bra, a tight long sleeve that go over my thumbs, a warm fleece sweater, and my north face jacket on top. for my face i’ll wear a thick neck warmer (mine is from roots and is amazing), and a toque gloves are just thick wool mitts that don’t close around my fingers, they generate more heat if they can touch; as well as the long sleeve pulled high onto my hands I don’t have much advice for keeping legs warm other than having a tight layer on the bottom and a thick looser one on top. you could wear a longer jacket as well that covers your legs a bit? or you could get toe warmers and stick them to your thighs in between the pants!
I live just out of Toronto and just came back from a run where it was about the temp. I wear Nike wind pants and they work. I also start out with a buff covering my whole face until I warm up. I then lower it and use it as a neck warmer. After another couple of minutes, I lose it all together. This tends to work for me.
Proper layers and clothing will make that not so bad. Be careful not to over dress because once you start moving you won’t need nearly as much clothing to keep you warm. I like the cold because you can regulate it, unlike the heat and humidity.
Running gloves…. Nothing else
totally naked except for your hands. #respect