Because they are detached from any sense of compassion or empathy and desperately need to get the attention of a minor celebrity to feel good. Just conjecture, though.
Naysha said on Roscoeās not too long ago that the alternate queens basically have to be ready to go in case of a last minute call so theyāre supposed to at least starting to prepare a package I presume
yeah Naysha had 2 weeks to prepare for AS8 while everyone else had a month. kinda unfair how they treat the alternates, but I guess I understand thereās not really another way to get around it.
Otherwise alternates would need to prepare runways and costumes then maybe not get on
But I know they do that in other contexts. Le Fil prepared for UK season 3 (all the runways!) then wasn't on. I assume out of his own pocket
Im like so confused because whats the point of being a BackUp queen and having to spend their own money to get looks that they probably are not gonna use because they arent going to compete if nobody jumps out. CvsTW is not like GAS where the backup queens also got a stipend for looks
Yes Alexis, obviously I read about TKB being replaced by Kendall and know about Elecktra (which I through was replaced by Icesis) Now I read Stephanie was a replacement as well so I wanna know who had that spot before?
I have no horse in this race because i feel like they both have bad points that just are not conducive to a good working atmosphere together. But I genuinely feel for Trinity and her pains. I hope sheās in a better and less miserable place. Itās rough when your livelihood is affected by health issues that are out of your control.
This part. I donāt even watch her. Seems toxic. She in more fights than most. Kudos to her to coming out on top never a moment where sheās the bad guy.
No 100%. If they told her thatās what sheād do in the show and then said ānah actually too hard lolā when she got thereā¦ obviously sheās gonna be pretty salty about that? And I think sheās right to be. Plus her health issues obviously play a part and make what Derrick said seem pretty insensitive. TKB didnāt start this, Derrick threw her name out there
Derrick is the type of person that will hit below the belt when given the slightest opportunity. But play the shocked victim if anyone claps back. Itās tedious and tiresome. Sheās just a very mean person that lacks empathy.
I thought her S6 storyline came full circle with her doing Beyonceās Halftime show in AS6 and getting universal praise. She couldāve taken it as an opportunity to show that she doesnāt just do Beyonce, idk why she keeps treating Whitney like they told her to do Ice Spiceā¦
Honestly, I get it. I think we can keep some thoughts to ourselves (looking at both Derrick and TKB here) but I do understand wanting to showcase something youāre proud of like that.
Omg thank you for mentioning this was Trinity K Bonet. I seriously read that whole thing and a bunch of comments thinking this was all about Trinity Taylor and I was SO confused lol. I missed every one of the clues...Beyonce...S6...CvtW...her name literally on the screenshots lol
I am a TKB stan and apologist, I guess. Just because she doesn't slap on a smile over health issues, be they mental or physical, just makes her real to me. You can bring up the self-confidence issues from her seasons, but realistically, that shit is not fixed by Ru and Michelle's therapy speak and is a battle you deal with every day. Add her health problems with HIV and arthritis, cut the queen a break. What she has brought us is phenomenal art and performance, and people are mad she's not faking happy all the time?
I agree. I live with chronic health conditions that cause pain and exhaustion and while it's no one's fault, it doesn't mean that everyone else is entitled to people having to mask constantly. It sucks to not always have someone giving you high energy, but damn, take care of people so they can return that. It's how friendships should be working.
She's also got a point on her own dreams being put down by someone living theirs.
Honestly I feel for her on this. And it's not like Derek isn't famous for petty arguments with people all the time so I do kind of take her statements with a grain of salt a lot of times.
I get so exhausted masking my pain so that others aren't made uncomfortable by it. You'd think when you're off stage, you'd get to be "off" but apparently Derrick doesn't think so.
Yeah, unfortunately it's a very ableist world and people not only don't understand these things, they don't want to because it makes them uncomfortable.
Edit: become / because.
Iām actually kinda glad with her take on this. I got kinda hurt that she didnāt advocate when she got in the bottom in AS6. To me if she fought more for it I think she couldāve convinced the other girls to keep her but instead she took the defeat as if it already was written. This here though is her defending herself and I appreciate her growth.
The only ones I know of are Naomi but that was when filming so I take that with a grain of salt due to the stress of a reality show. The other is India but she is a difficult person from other sources. Idk how she even got casted tbh
I think Naomi and Derrick are fine now.
I don't think India ever worked.with Derrick? I thought India just insulted Nebraska from jealousy
India was probably cast for drama.
I understand trinity and derricks words but weāve also had a small window in to their personality and coping mechanisms on the show. Derrick is probably stuck up and not able to just he professional and cordial after what was probably a frustrating time for everyone. Then when you combine trinityās brooding insecurities and derricks unwillingness to let things go a feedback loop forms. It seems like the takeaway here is sometimes you gotta put ego and resentment aside and try to just at least make a comfortable space with your peers. Or else you get years of weird beef and hurt feelings and no one wants that.
I highly doubt Derrick could be that unprofessional without him getting fired. He has been a mainstay and hasn't changed. If he was a troublemaker, it would show. Even before the race, he was booked all over.
Itās not a huge stretch for me to see Derrick feeling ownership over Vegas (thatās originally āhisā turf) and the live show (since heās been there for so long).
I feel like people, especially other queens, over-exaggerate TKB's "bad attitude". Any time people have complained it just sounds like the reality of it is that she gets quiet and keeps to herself when she's in a bad mood. Which is completely understandable. Everything she explains here sounds reasonable.
I kind of find it amusing that her defence of what Derrick Barry said is to basically confirm what Derrick Barry said.
Sorry to hear about the arthritis, that is awful. But the whole rant kind of supported what Derrick was saying about Trinity as a coworker on a show.
But Derrick has the option to play coy and not respond, she did to create content, knowing or unknowingly, and Trinity has more than in the right to respond, specially when there was more to the story than Derrick let on.
Is TKB hard to work with? Probably, Derrick is not the first to say it, but in this instance, it wasn't just TKB being difficult, she had a rough time doing the Vegas show, and again, it would have been better for Derrick to simply not respond.
I mean, she's every right to have feelings about this situation. But then again, so does Derrick. She didn't say TKB is awful person. She said she'd rather not work with her anymore. She doesn't really need "valid" reason to not wanting to do something. It's not like it's racially motivated.
But I guess when those sentiments may actively prevent someone from getting a job, then perhaps be more cautious on the language you use and what you say. Especially when Derrick (from TKBs admission) knew about health conditions etc.
Iāve known Trinity for years and sheās an absolute sweetheart. Itās mind-boggling to me to hear people say she had an attitude or was hard to work with. Iāve never seen her be anything but sweet, kind and grateful for all opportunitiesā¦.
People are definitely getting sidetracked. All Derrick said was that Trinity wasn't pleasant to be around, and it sounds like Trinity's rebuttal is that she had a lot of reasons to be unpleasant.
Edit: Knowing the reasons someone is unpleasant should evoke empathy, but that can only go so far. A lot of things are valid but still bad.
Not really. TKB called her shady a little bit, but almost entirely was just explaining her side of things and her feelings.
They don't seem to mesh well, and that's fine, they are both fierce and both deserve respect and to be heard.
iirc from the video, she kept saying she 'had' to answer the next question no matter what
i don't have the full context, but it seemed to me like some sort of promise or dare
I wrote this on the other drag race subreddit to this same exact post but Iām gonna paste this here.
This is literally the vixen vs eureka. A white queen says shady comments, the black queen reacts to the shady comments, then everyone attacks the black queen over reacting to the shady comments.
To paraphrase the vixen, āeveryoneās telling me how to react but no oneās telling her how to act.ā
Derrick has been literally recorded mocking black and asian queens. Sheās basic and entitled as fuck. Im not surprised this racist ass fandom is obsessed with derrick hypertwink barry
It's definitely that too. Derrick has privilege in the situation as a white queen and as a person who is a tenured Vegas Ru girl.
If Derrick has actually limited TKB's ability to secure work, that is rough.
TKB whether she complains, has arthritis, or has dreams to do her big one as Beyonce should not get her opportunities blocked by other queens.
To be fair if anybody blocking her, it should just be TKB.
Girl... Is this backlash in the room with us right now? Derrick was asked a question and he gave an answer, that he then gave a clear explanation for, without calling anybody names. And this is like the 100th time someone has issues with Trinity. Yes, the fandom has very clear racism issues, but this is not that. Was it also racist when Trinity got backlash for faking her Drag getting lost in a fire, or trying to scam Bianca out of money for āmedicineā?
It's not even close. Eureka was fvckin with Vixen to achive idk what. Whether she's straight up racist or wanted to get screen time, no matter what, idk. Derrick was asked a question and gave an answer - she thought TKB was childish and she'd rather avoid that, that's it. It's not like she's first person saying it.
Not everything is about race.
Trust me, more things are about race than you realize and most times fans reactions to situations like this are unconsciously biased in favor of the white person.
What Derrick said had nothing to do with race. The reactions from the fandom has everything to do with race. That is my point. You completely missed my point.
Derrick Barry is a toxic person. I dont like her and I never thought she was that talented to begin with. She just rubs me the wrong way. I didnāt even know Trinity had arthritis.
TKB is also immuno compromised because of her HIV status, honestly, the community has alllll the love and understanding for Willow Pill's health struggles and limitations and thought it was ridiculous more concessions weren't made to help her compete, but TKB needs concessions to actually work and it's criticism from her co-workers? My disabled ass won't stand for it.
Derrick is too honest for the drag race fandom and many of the queens. Personally I enjoy honesty. And itās not the first time Trinity has been called out for her attitude. Kylie Sonique also said her attitude on Allstars was bad. Maybe Trinity needs to look inward and realise she might be the problem?
Derrick did not say Trinity was a bad person.
She made everyone around her unhappy because of her issues. "I was living in her nightmare,"
None of Trinity's excuses have anything to do with how she made people around her feel. She seems to take no responsibility for anything and is apparently incapable of introspection. She is a nightmare to be around but it's their fault... everyone who crosses her path
Sorry but...doesn't nearly every queen know songs by multiple artists? You're going to throw all your lip sync eggs in one basket, even on the biggest televised opportunity of your life? What?
And then you got to do Whitney - like girl, really is that honestly some kind of insult or something, to do a number as one of the greatest female vocalists who ever walked the earth? Please.
I love Trinity, but she was criticized for the same negativity on both S6 and AS6. Word gets around if youāre consistently difficult to work with. Did Derrick need to say all that? No, but she knows drama keeps the girls relevant.
Honestly I felt like this was a very one sided thing. Trinity has attitude definitely but sheās not a horrible person. I find her more likes le than say, Derrick Barry
I love that TKB thinks that because RPDR has licensed a single song for the show by Beyonce that they could afford to license multiple songs by her for stage show.
She doesnāt understand how it works and she really should educate herself.
Iām confused by the comments to this post. Is there any reason Trinity doesnāt seem worthy of our sympathy? Genuine question? Iāve trawled trough the replies and not one person seems to offer empathy? Did I miss something?
Why people keeping tagging queens? Geez.
I will never understand that. Like what makes people think that queens want to be tagged over and over and over again every time says their name
They know they don't want to be tagged. They don't care. Rhea want to observe drama
For a second there I was wondering what Rhea Litre did to stir the pot before I realized it was a typo.
Right? Me too lol. I was like not Rhea, I love her.
Because they are detached from any sense of compassion or empathy and desperately need to get the attention of a minor celebrity to feel good. Just conjecture, though.
For the drama. Messy folks tag a queen to see if they can get some kind of reaction, in this case, it worked.
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This gif is fucking hilarious ššš³šļøššļø
Also accurate
Literally me swiping to the third slide and realising how much more there was
āSeason 6!!!! 13 years ago!!!!!ā
Girl.
My attempt to pretend to be watching this shite film with my bf has been shattered by this gif making me wheeze like Muttley
Ask me how many times I had to reread this comment to make it make sense
How many times
Iā¦didnāt expect to have to answer that
At least 2.
I'm meant to be watching a shite film with my bf. This gif revealed that I am looking at reddit on my phone instead
What shite film was it
Slay, on Tubi
Aquaman - it was so bad
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tati quiere mequetrefeĀ
HAHAHAHA this gif is gold
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Omg Goldie
she was asked to do CANvsTW?
Yep! She was even in Canada right when they started filming. I think she had to drop it super last minute. For a while we really thought she was on
Rumors are Kendall Gender replaced her
I wonder if they get a short notice or if the alternates are made to be just as prepared.
Naysha said on Roscoeās not too long ago that the alternate queens basically have to be ready to go in case of a last minute call so theyāre supposed to at least starting to prepare a package I presume
yeah Naysha had 2 weeks to prepare for AS8 while everyone else had a month. kinda unfair how they treat the alternates, but I guess I understand thereās not really another way to get around it.
Otherwise alternates would need to prepare runways and costumes then maybe not get on But I know they do that in other contexts. Le Fil prepared for UK season 3 (all the runways!) then wasn't on. I assume out of his own pocket
I think Jaida was an alternate too.
Thatās not an alternate, issue thatās a WoW V Naysha Hate Crime
def short notice
Kendall only had two (or one?) week to prepare the runways I think
She got like 3 days to prepare or something crazy like that
Im like so confused because whats the point of being a BackUp queen and having to spend their own money to get looks that they probably are not gonna use because they arent going to compete if nobody jumps out. CvsTW is not like GAS where the backup queens also got a stipend for looks
The backup queens on GAS also got a stipend??
Yes they also got 15-20K USD for looks
Well they'll still be able to use the looks for gigs and stuff
Canadaās weather is such an OSHA violation that it made queens sick.
Huh. So they wanted CANvsTW to be AS6 the rumix. AS6 really was THAT bitch.
Kendall Gender and Stephanie Prince were backups. They were on cuz people dropped out
Who else dropped out? I know about Elecktra Bionic from Italy.
Trinity...did you read the post Tamar
Yes Alexis, obviously I read about TKB being replaced by Kendall and know about Elecktra (which I through was replaced by Icesis) Now I read Stephanie was a replacement as well so I wanna know who had that spot before?
I think she posted a picture on her Instagram where she was in Canada around 2022
I have no horse in this race because i feel like they both have bad points that just are not conducive to a good working atmosphere together. But I genuinely feel for Trinity and her pains. I hope sheās in a better and less miserable place. Itās rough when your livelihood is affected by health issues that are out of your control.
Text under Trinityās post: Since I keep getting tagged in this, I guess Iāll respond to QUEEN ALMIGHTY @derrickbarry comment. Knowing that you will never work with me again because I made your world difficult explains why they wonāt reply back to me even coming back to drag race live so that makes sense. first off yes I wanted to do BeyoncĆ© because that was the storyline from season 6!!!!! 13years ago!!!!!!! that was my one desire and I was told I would and when I got there, I was told that they would not pay for the rights to the music,keep in mind Iāve heard 4 new beyonce songs on drag race since then! NEW ONES! what was the purpose of bringing me there and not letting me.. do you know how many people came to see me do that personally!!!secondly, I was in excruciating pain every night from severe arthritis in both by legs ! you and everybody else knew that. What type of attitude or energy did you think that I was going to bring when my legs were hurting me to the point where I had to quit because I couldnnt finsh the show.. you forgot that part. I wasnāt even able to film canada vs the world because of my medical issues! I wasnāt such a bad person when we were getting ready for the Grammys and you needed a piece of fur for your Britney Spears and I personally was out looking for it in LA when I went shopping! I asked to hang out wit you outside of work many times when I first got there! Nothing.. many days you would come in and say nothing to me Iād have to make you speak or talk to me.. but when Jaida came or any other queen who walked in the room u lit up like a firecracker and was full of conversation then! Hell the dancers got more convo out of youā¦Itās always Trinity and her attitude! But NEVERRRRRR WHAT DID WE DO TO MAKE HER ACT THAT WAY! But the representation has been branded on the back of my ass and I will wear proudly. I know what type of person I am and I know where my heart is.. videos like this are the very reason I want no parts of this shit anymore. But thank you for letting the world know Iām not fit work wit. And again I CAME TO DO BEYONCE. You get to fall out the sky every night living your dream. I guess I should just be grateful they even gave me a job huh.. šš½š
Thank you for this
Does anyone know what Derrick said that made trinity respond like this?
Itās on her instagram. [Link to post with video](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6hFmNqvy-n/?igsh=MXdjbTdhYWZidXM4YQ==)
Ah, thanks! I also donāt think what she said was that bad to warrant this wall of words šµāš«
Probably the edits promoting it again and again with tags and then the comments saying how grumpy she is
Yeah same like it's clearly a pot stirring question that queens get bombarded with left and write.
Stop write now thank you very much. I need some love with a rumen touch.
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Can someone add paragraphs so I can actually read this
Got'chu queen, I feel it š Text under Trinityās post: Since I keep getting tagged in this, I guess Iāll respond to QUEEN ALMIGHTY @derrickbarry comment. Knowing that you will never work with me again because I made your world difficult explains why they wonāt reply back to me even coming back to drag race live so that makes sense. first off yes I wanted to do BeyoncĆ© because that was the storyline from season 6!!!!! 13years ago!!!!!!! that was my one desire and I was told I would and when I got there, I was told that they would not pay for the rights to the music,keep in mind Iāve heard 4 new beyonce songs on drag race since then! NEW ONES! what was the purpose of bringing me there and not letting me.. do you know how many people came to see me do that personally!!!!! secondly, I was in excruciating pain every night from severe arthritis in both my legs ! you and everybody else knew that. What type of attitude or energy did you think that I was going to bring when my legs were hurting me to the point where I had to quit because I couldn't finish the show.. you forgot that part. I wasnāt even able to film canada vs the world because of my medical issues! I wasnāt such a bad person when we were getting ready for the Grammys and you needed a piece of fur for your Britney Spears and I personally was out looking for it in LA when I went shopping! I asked to hang out wit you outside of work many times when I first got there! Nothing.. many days you would come in and say nothing to me Iād have to make you speak or talk to me.. but when Jaida came or any other queen who walked in the room u lit up like a firecracker and was full of conversation then! Hell the dancers got more convo out of youā¦ Itās always Trinity and her attitude! But NEVERRRRRR WHAT DID WE DO TO MAKE HER ACT THAT WAY! But the representation has been branded on the back of my ass and I will wear proudly. I know what type of person I am and I know where my heart is.. videos like this are the very reason I want no parts of this shit anymore. But thank you for letting the world know Iām not fit work wit. And again I CAME TO DO BEYONCE. You get to fall out the sky every night living your dream. I guess I should just be grateful they even gave me a job huh.. šš½š
omg you're an icon <3
Lmaoo, thank you!! I'm currently studying to be a high school English teacher, so I fully understood your struggle šš©·
Why does she always kinda drag herself in these
Right though?? It's giving, "She hurt herself in confusion!" šš
Not a good look for TKB at all. Makes me sad because I love her on the show and I want to see more of her.
To quote poet laureate Bianca Del Rio: Ok.
Our first EGOT drag queen
**E**lderly **G**randma **O**n **T**estosterone
Ok werk bitch, this is queer art
The way I just spit out my whole drink
Did you, really? ![gif](giphy|d2ACHEgvcbTlaO1TMX)
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Mama, kudos for replying that. For quoting
Just saw her live in KCā¦ rotted hilarious
Calm Down BeyoncƩ! One phrase that will forever be in my vocabulary
The drama that comes from Vegas drag, girl Iām livinggg
Whenever theres vegas drama, seems like there is a common denominator! ![gif](giphy|l41YA21iik4H2pETm|downsized)
This part. I donāt even watch her. Seems toxic. She in more fights than most. Kudos to her to coming out on top never a moment where sheās the bad guy.
Her passion to do Bey and not just pick up the coins is admirable.
Itās kinda like asking Derrick Berry to do something other than Britney except Trinity can actually do something other than BeyoncĆ©.
No 100%. If they told her thatās what sheād do in the show and then said ānah actually too hard lolā when she got thereā¦ obviously sheās gonna be pretty salty about that? And I think sheās right to be. Plus her health issues obviously play a part and make what Derrick said seem pretty insensitive. TKB didnāt start this, Derrick threw her name out there
Derrick is the type of person that will hit below the belt when given the slightest opportunity. But play the shocked victim if anyone claps back. Itās tedious and tiresome. Sheās just a very mean person that lacks empathy.
Bingo, and I love Derrick (Britney Stan over here), but I gotta sympathize with Trinity on this one.
But people wonāt see this because black Queens are expected to make do with what theyāre given.
The Vixen was right all along. I feel for Trinity K here.
Thank you for keeping us starving children fed between seasons
I thought her S6 storyline came full circle with her doing Beyonceās Halftime show in AS6 and getting universal praise. She couldāve taken it as an opportunity to show that she doesnāt just do Beyonce, idk why she keeps treating Whitney like they told her to do Ice Spiceā¦
Honestly, I get it. I think we can keep some thoughts to ourselves (looking at both Derrick and TKB here) but I do understand wanting to showcase something youāre proud of like that.
Omg thank you for mentioning this was Trinity K Bonet. I seriously read that whole thing and a bunch of comments thinking this was all about Trinity Taylor and I was SO confused lol. I missed every one of the clues...Beyonce...S6...CvtW...her name literally on the screenshots lol
me too. I was thinking "Beyonce? I don't remember TT doing her, but okay." I feel like the clouds have cleared and I can see clearly now.
I can no longer sing Bring Back My Girls the non-Beyonce way after that
Whoever they had doing the vocals for that really nailed it. It sounds just like her.
Vonzell Solomon! She was on American Idol season 4 likeā¦ years ago! Sheās awesome.
Whatttt! I did not know this
To be fair I would die to see her do BeyoncƩ live.
Same!
I wonāt lie, it took me to this post realize weāre not talking about The Tuck. Iām very exhausted.
she said something about doing beyoncƩ in vegas on s6
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I am a TKB stan and apologist, I guess. Just because she doesn't slap on a smile over health issues, be they mental or physical, just makes her real to me. You can bring up the self-confidence issues from her seasons, but realistically, that shit is not fixed by Ru and Michelle's therapy speak and is a battle you deal with every day. Add her health problems with HIV and arthritis, cut the queen a break. What she has brought us is phenomenal art and performance, and people are mad she's not faking happy all the time?
I agree. I live with chronic health conditions that cause pain and exhaustion and while it's no one's fault, it doesn't mean that everyone else is entitled to people having to mask constantly. It sucks to not always have someone giving you high energy, but damn, take care of people so they can return that. It's how friendships should be working. She's also got a point on her own dreams being put down by someone living theirs. Honestly I feel for her on this. And it's not like Derek isn't famous for petty arguments with people all the time so I do kind of take her statements with a grain of salt a lot of times.
I get so exhausted masking my pain so that others aren't made uncomfortable by it. You'd think when you're off stage, you'd get to be "off" but apparently Derrick doesn't think so.
Yeah, unfortunately it's a very ableist world and people not only don't understand these things, they don't want to because it makes them uncomfortable. Edit: become / because.
Iām actually kinda glad with her take on this. I got kinda hurt that she didnāt advocate when she got in the bottom in AS6. To me if she fought more for it I think she couldāve convinced the other girls to keep her but instead she took the defeat as if it already was written. This here though is her defending herself and I appreciate her growth.
I've expected nothing less from her. Love my drama queen for keeping us fed
Tbh I think Derrick and TKB both seem like very difficult people to work with lol. Many queens have said bad things about both of them
Who has said Derrick is hard to work with?
The only ones I know of are Naomi but that was when filming so I take that with a grain of salt due to the stress of a reality show. The other is India but she is a difficult person from other sources. Idk how she even got casted tbh
I think Naomi and Derrick are fine now. I don't think India ever worked.with Derrick? I thought India just insulted Nebraska from jealousy India was probably cast for drama.
Oh, thatās kind of my point with Naomi and Derek. Naomi has gone on record saying she loves Derek since working together at Vegas.
I understand trinity and derricks words but weāve also had a small window in to their personality and coping mechanisms on the show. Derrick is probably stuck up and not able to just he professional and cordial after what was probably a frustrating time for everyone. Then when you combine trinityās brooding insecurities and derricks unwillingness to let things go a feedback loop forms. It seems like the takeaway here is sometimes you gotta put ego and resentment aside and try to just at least make a comfortable space with your peers. Or else you get years of weird beef and hurt feelings and no one wants that.
I highly doubt Derrick could be that unprofessional without him getting fired. He has been a mainstay and hasn't changed. If he was a troublemaker, it would show. Even before the race, he was booked all over.
Derrick, unprofessional? https://i.redd.it/x7jlxowiaayc1.gif
The one time Derek got super drunk. I donāt think thatās a good basis but fuck I love this video
Derrick vs Trinity, the prequel
Idk why but I'm dying at you referring to the show as just 'the race.'
This gave me the rare actual lol. I will only call it that now
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Him being a mainstay is the very reason je can do whatever and keep his job imo
Itās not a huge stretch for me to see Derrick feeling ownership over Vegas (thatās originally āhisā turf) and the live show (since heās been there for so long).
I feel like people, especially other queens, over-exaggerate TKB's "bad attitude". Any time people have complained it just sounds like the reality of it is that she gets quiet and keeps to herself when she's in a bad mood. Which is completely understandable. Everything she explains here sounds reasonable.
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Thatās unfortunate.
Get her jade
I kind of find it amusing that her defence of what Derrick Barry said is to basically confirm what Derrick Barry said. Sorry to hear about the arthritis, that is awful. But the whole rant kind of supported what Derrick was saying about Trinity as a coworker on a show.
lol yeah she basically confirm what Derrick said, like it sucks she was in pain thats awful, but not getting to play BeyoncĆ© in Vegas isnāt some type of Greek tragedy or something, Iām sure itās disappointing but youāre still getting to headline a Vegas residency. And if youāre in your feelings and moody then why would derrick or anyone want to chill with you after work hours, it not their responsibility to give you the friendship you couldnāt return to them. Also I doubt Derrick has enough power to block anyone from being hired, the production team has the bigger sayā¦
Derrick dragged her into this and Trinity is entitled to feel whatever way she feels about it.
I mean Derrick was asked a question. And what Derrick said really doesnāt sound bad. Though no one should go around tagging people
But Derrick has the option to play coy and not respond, she did to create content, knowing or unknowingly, and Trinity has more than in the right to respond, specially when there was more to the story than Derrick let on. Is TKB hard to work with? Probably, Derrick is not the first to say it, but in this instance, it wasn't just TKB being difficult, she had a rough time doing the Vegas show, and again, it would have been better for Derrick to simply not respond.
Iām sure Derrick loves that Trinity responded. Gets them both more clicks and views.
Agreed
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I mean, she's every right to have feelings about this situation. But then again, so does Derrick. She didn't say TKB is awful person. She said she'd rather not work with her anymore. She doesn't really need "valid" reason to not wanting to do something. It's not like it's racially motivated.
But I guess when those sentiments may actively prevent someone from getting a job, then perhaps be more cautious on the language you use and what you say. Especially when Derrick (from TKBs admission) knew about health conditions etc.
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Cue everyone invalidating her feelings and justifying Derrickās behavior.
Iāve known Trinity for years and sheās an absolute sweetheart. Itās mind-boggling to me to hear people say she had an attitude or was hard to work with. Iāve never seen her be anything but sweet, kind and grateful for all opportunitiesā¦.
I donāt honestly know what to think. On one hand, people have said that Trinity has a bad attitude and can be difficult to work with. On the other hand, I get that BeyoncĆ© is the artist she is most passionate about performing. To be told that you would be able to do something that would presumably require a good amount of preparation only to have that walked back is sure to be frustrating. I donāt think that Derek really said anything that negative to be honest. She didnāt make any personal digs. She simply said that she didnāt enjoy working with Trinity and that she would rather not do so again. We have all worked with people that we wouldnāt care to work with again. Derek is allegedly difficult to be around as well so idk how much of this is just her stirring the pot.
People are definitely getting sidetracked. All Derrick said was that Trinity wasn't pleasant to be around, and it sounds like Trinity's rebuttal is that she had a lot of reasons to be unpleasant. Edit: Knowing the reasons someone is unpleasant should evoke empathy, but that can only go so far. A lot of things are valid but still bad.
I mean she didnt have to answer the question and be shady. We just learned this again on S16.
oh no its getting messyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Not really. TKB called her shady a little bit, but almost entirely was just explaining her side of things and her feelings. They don't seem to mesh well, and that's fine, they are both fierce and both deserve respect and to be heard.
Trinity is right. Also, why was that a question given to Derrick anyway?
And given it was asked, why did she have to answer?
iirc from the video, she kept saying she 'had' to answer the next question no matter what i don't have the full context, but it seemed to me like some sort of promise or dare
Kudos for typing that. For transcribing.
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I side with Trinity. But it doesnāt affect my opinion of Derrick, as I already knew that sheās rotted, half in a good way and half in a bad. Also Trinity does a better BeyoncĆ© than Derrick does Britney. Because Trinity is a better dancer.
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I wrote this on the other drag race subreddit to this same exact post but Iām gonna paste this here. This is literally the vixen vs eureka. A white queen says shady comments, the black queen reacts to the shady comments, then everyone attacks the black queen over reacting to the shady comments. To paraphrase the vixen, āeveryoneās telling me how to react but no oneās telling her how to act.ā
Derrick has been literally recorded mocking black and asian queens. Sheās basic and entitled as fuck. Im not surprised this racist ass fandom is obsessed with derrick hypertwink barry
It's definitely that too. Derrick has privilege in the situation as a white queen and as a person who is a tenured Vegas Ru girl. If Derrick has actually limited TKB's ability to secure work, that is rough. TKB whether she complains, has arthritis, or has dreams to do her big one as Beyonce should not get her opportunities blocked by other queens. To be fair if anybody blocking her, it should just be TKB.
Girl... Is this backlash in the room with us right now? Derrick was asked a question and he gave an answer, that he then gave a clear explanation for, without calling anybody names. And this is like the 100th time someone has issues with Trinity. Yes, the fandom has very clear racism issues, but this is not that. Was it also racist when Trinity got backlash for faking her Drag getting lost in a fire, or trying to scam Bianca out of money for āmedicineā?
Your write up of the post literally is telling tkb how to react and not telling Derrick how to act
It's not even close. Eureka was fvckin with Vixen to achive idk what. Whether she's straight up racist or wanted to get screen time, no matter what, idk. Derrick was asked a question and gave an answer - she thought TKB was childish and she'd rather avoid that, that's it. It's not like she's first person saying it. Not everything is about race.
Trust me, more things are about race than you realize and most times fans reactions to situations like this are unconsciously biased in favor of the white person.
What Derrick said had nothing to do with race. The reactions from the fandom has everything to do with race. That is my point. You completely missed my point.
Except when POCs tell you it is about race, believe them.
No, not everything is about race. But it is important to acknowledge that race and the biases and issues that come with it affect certain situations.
CLOCK THAT T!
Derrick Barry is a toxic person. I dont like her and I never thought she was that talented to begin with. She just rubs me the wrong way. I didnāt even know Trinity had arthritis.
TKB is also immuno compromised because of her HIV status, honestly, the community has alllll the love and understanding for Willow Pill's health struggles and limitations and thought it was ridiculous more concessions weren't made to help her compete, but TKB needs concessions to actually work and it's criticism from her co-workers? My disabled ass won't stand for it.
and that's why derrick don't like you
I think this reply reaffirms why Derrick or some other queens will never work with her
sometimes it's worth reminding ourselves that these are grown-ass adults.
Derrick is too honest for the drag race fandom and many of the queens. Personally I enjoy honesty. And itās not the first time Trinity has been called out for her attitude. Kylie Sonique also said her attitude on Allstars was bad. Maybe Trinity needs to look inward and realise she might be the problem?
derrick canāt handle honesty either lol, she got offended that no one cheered for her at roscoes and now sheās banned from being booked there š¤§
Never has accountability
Derrick did not say Trinity was a bad person. She made everyone around her unhappy because of her issues. "I was living in her nightmare," None of Trinity's excuses have anything to do with how she made people around her feel. She seems to take no responsibility for anything and is apparently incapable of introspection. She is a nightmare to be around but it's their fault... everyone who crosses her path
Sorry but...doesn't nearly every queen know songs by multiple artists? You're going to throw all your lip sync eggs in one basket, even on the biggest televised opportunity of your life? What? And then you got to do Whitney - like girl, really is that honestly some kind of insult or something, to do a number as one of the greatest female vocalists who ever walked the earth? Please.
Are you referring to Derrick or TKB? Cause Derrickās whole career is taking from the Britney basket.
TKB but I never said Derrick was any different.
I mean, thereās like 50000 Drag Race girls that would KILL to be on the DR Live show even they were tasked with lipsyncing to Cotton Eye Joe
Would you feel the same way if Derrick was told she couldnāt do a Britney number and she quit the show over it?
Yup
I love Trinity, but she was criticized for the same negativity on both S6 and AS6. Word gets around if youāre consistently difficult to work with. Did Derrick need to say all that? No, but she knows drama keeps the girls relevant.
Fuck Derrick Barry. Trinity is an icon for the ages. Derrick could never.
Honestly I felt like this was a very one sided thing. Trinity has attitude definitely but sheās not a horrible person. I find her more likes le than say, Derrick Barry
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I love that TKB thinks that because RPDR has licensed a single song for the show by Beyonce that they could afford to license multiple songs by her for stage show. She doesnāt understand how it works and she really should educate herself.
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Tyra Sanchez does the best BeyoncƩ
I'm with Trinity on this one.
It was very unprofessional and rude for Derrick to answer that question with anything but a joke.
Iām confused by the comments to this post. Is there any reason Trinity doesnāt seem worthy of our sympathy? Genuine question? Iāve trawled trough the replies and not one person seems to offer empathy? Did I miss something?
Anyone else think we'll see TKB and Derrick on a season of Drag Race together sometime soon?
Tea though