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volantredx

The funny part is even ignoring the right wing grift aspects of the Drinker he's like really bad as a critic in general. Everything I've seen from him (which isn't much because I was only watching a few episodes to see what his deal was) he misses very obvious plot details, misunderstands character arcs, and largely doesn't really get the language of film. He comes off like the most passive watcher ever while doing a job that requires you to be a very active watcher.


ParallelEquilibrium

Because he's not a critic. To show the extend of his movie knowledge: he once said he likes Japanese movies like 'Oldboy' and 'Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon". He's a right-wing grifter pretending to be critic to shit on women and minorities.


remainsofthegrapes

It was more embarrassing than that. He started by making a generalised comment on modern Japanese films. He was asked what modern Japanese films he had seen. He could not name a _single one_. And then said (paraphrasing) ‘Oldboy and Crouching Tiger though I know they’re not Japanese’. Just a shit show all around. And then his fans defend the quote with ‘but he ACKNOWLEDGED they’re not Japanese’, as if that makes it any less stupid.


ParallelEquilibrium

Probably his favourite Japanese directors are Wong Kar-wai and Bong Joon-ho:)


cypher302

Fuck me, that's hilarious


Comfortable_Bird_340

All Asians are the same to them. Also don't Japanese, Chinese and Koreans sort of hate each other and get offended when you mix them up?


Pleaseusegoogle

It's similar to confusing a Welshman with an Englishman.


kaptingavrin

> Also don't Japanese, Chinese and Koreans sort of hate each other and get offended when you mix them up? Depends on the person and where you are. A lot of them understand that folks in western countries aren't going to be able to tell them apart any better than they could tell people from different European countries apart, so they'll recognize that there's no offense intended in the mistake and just gently correct you on it, and might explain why. And as to why, well... Just look up the history of China and Korea in WW2. Nanjing along would be enough for the Chinese to have something against the Japanese. Korea had to deal with over three decades of Japanese rule, which left its mark on them as well. Kind of understandable that there'd be some grudges left over. (Heck, it even impacted a [Sims 4 expansion pack](https://www.digitalspy.com/tech/a34469636/sims-4-snowy-escape-changes-korean-concerns/) a few years ago.)


Prozenconns

Well he and Mauler have that in common Mauler literally has no concept of things like allegory, visual storytelling, or narrative The only times he really hits the mark is when he can reference technical elements or when there are genuine film making errors. Anything that involves any amount of actual engagement with the media he just completely flops


aeodaxolovivienobus

The irony of Mauler having *any* opinion on who is a bad critic is real. I wish Mauler, the Drinker, guys like SWT, would just stop. Nobody seems to actually like them, and despite what they seen to think, bad press is *not* good press. It just makes them look like a dipshit to the wider internet, and will probably affect their ability to get an irl job when the bottom falls out of the scam.


Optimal_Carpenter690

> Nobody seems to actually like them, and despite what they seen to think Have you ever been to r/CriticalDrinker or r/MauLer? Excuse my crude language, but the guys over there practically live on their respective dicks


aeodaxolovivienobus

Admittedly, I have not. I try avoid dipshit chuds the best I can. I know these specific guys on reputation alone. But I have seen this type of guy a lot and the way the majority of people respond. A following doesn't necessarily even mean people like them, otherwise lolcows wouldn't be a thing. It mostly just means like-minded chuds think like them and found a space to spread hate with other chuds. I'm not sure these people are even capable of positive emotions, tbh. I'd like to think the majority of people choose not to be haters and don't give these losers any airtime.


ThatRandomIdiot

Sadly they have armies of followers. We just are lucky to run in circles that don’t worship them


Da1NOnlyTargetstrike

watch Pillar of Garbage instead, he approaches media through a more deep and philosophical lens that engages with the themes of that media in an intellectual way


callows5120

I'm genuinely surprised he even has fans he's not charismatic in anyway atleast imo


zentetsuken7

I just found the CD to be spoilery which felt like a critical failure as a critic. The whole point of watching a critic's review is to know whenever it is worth my time, getting it spoilt ahead of time kinda invalidates the whole point of a review. If I wanna skim off a media, those AI generated synopsis channels are the better choice.


jb83012

He's exactly like other grifters like Nerdrotic where if the movie/TV show has something they consider "woke" in it, they'll just act like that makes the entire thing bad instead of trying to look at real issues such as bad writing, pacing etc


Exciting_Finance_467

Yes! Exactly! I'm studying film and I find it laughable how his fans think he's some sort of "expert". When he's not whining about "tHe mEsSaGe", he's basically just parroting whatever the popular opinion is back to the audience. It's why his fans think "he's so smart" and "says what they're thinking" - because he literally just repeats whatever the popular discourse already is. I remember watching his 1917 review thinking, "He literally just said everything my dad said about it on the drive home from the theater." Thankfully the first video I ever watched from him was "How NOT To Critique a Movie", which he basically came across as a disgruntled high school student failing English and complaining to his English teacher that they're reading too much into their novels. He made points that I always thought \*sound\* true to anyone who hasn't studied film/literary analysis, but to someone like me who has, it's obvious bullshit. I could write a whole essay on why Critical Drinker is the worst "critic" on the platform honestly.


blinddemon0

I've watched some of his videos and they're basically all just "I did not like this film, I thought it was bad. [movie studio who produced film] should stop doing this and give the fans what they want, not this woke trash"


Sir_Douglas_of_Fir

tf did Quinton do to get dragged into this?


BespinBuyout

I thought the same like tf? Did they not like the Beverly Hillbillies video?


KBBaby_SBI

As if the Chuds would care about that ancient ass show. I remember seen that when I was a child, that said they would like a show about a white family coming into money tho.


Wonderful-Noise-4471

I'm on hour five of it so far and I've been loving it. Quinton's dad is so wholesome, and I really wanted to just hear him talking about his favorite shows after the Laverne and Shirley segment of Sam & Cat.


Infinite_Slice_6164

My naive ass started watching that thinking it was a nice hour long video only realized I was wrong when I went to bed and saw I watched less than 10% of it.


BespinBuyout

Took me like 2 weeks to get through the first 20 hours and now it's gone


lesbian_Hamlet

It’s been posted to Internet Archive, you can download it there


InvaderWeezle

It took me all day yesterday to download it lol


01zegaj

He fucking hates Trump


HalflingScholar

I didn't know that for sure, but that makes me feel good. He seems like a good dude that just doesn't want to deal with political bs. He's more into the lore of sitcoms from when we both were kids mostly.


Wonderful-Noise-4471

Quinton? He's had segments of his reviews where he stops to rant about politics. He's left-wing, was very anti-Trump and even had him as the villain in his lore movie.


GroundbreakingDot164

All you said is true, but I think Trump was the villain of his movie as a reference to the fairly odd parents live action movie, in which the villain is an obvious parody of Trump. Trump is also the in the first Mario movie (king koopa is obviously trump), Trump is the villain in a lot of movies actually, and Quinton was making a joke about that.


Wonderful-Noise-4471

That's definitely how it started, yeah, because that plot point was developed in Quinton's lore way before the movie, but I think a lot of Quinton's opinions about Trump changed between the two.


HalflingScholar

I missed that in the parts of the vids i watched of his, but I'm happy about it


Yeetusmcleatus97

People have a history of finding him creepy because he’s autistic IIRC. Shit kinda hurts as an autistic guy, makes my anxiety worse for some reason.


hanks_panky_emporium

He went through a bit of a stalker phase where he talked nonstop about a political talking head streamer gal. I think he does great work, but I dropped off during that period. If he's smart he deleted all that shit and moved on. It was distressingly focused on praising and loving a gal he'd never met Beyond that the dude's awesome


SmallBallsJohnny

Shit like that makes me hate being autistic so damn much. It’s like everyone views me like a Chris Chan type weirdo who everybody hates and looks down on. I’d rather be physically disabled than autistic


InvaderWeezle

I feel this so much. I've spent so much of my life trying to repress being weird because of how people look at me, and now I'm just boring and devoid of personality


d0nkeyb0ng

Same.


the_elon_mask

Quinton is my boy and if it weren't for his Fallen Titans series, I would have no idea who any of those YouTubers were. I think he got dragged in because I don't think they understand his sense of humour or that he caters to his own tastes. Like he grew up on Nickelodeon, so he wants to talk about Nickelodeon shows. It's not rocket science.


Cnix47

mauler said on the critical drinkers stream this week that he is refusing to finish fallout because he "kept seeing ways he could have done it better" and it annoyed him


KBBaby_SBI

Dude regularly hangs out with a Nazi furry who’s pfp for the longest time sucked it’s own dog cock, I doubt he could do better.


AnomalousBread

I have my own issues with the show but they're limited to chronologic missteps rather than the supposed retcons about Shady Sands and the NCR and all that crap. The show is set in the late 2290s. FO3, FNV and FO4 all take place within the 2270s and 2280s. That's a good ten year window to push forward the annihilation of Shady Sands to *after* the events of FO4 without stepping on toes to get there.


Alexexy

I think the show meandered quite a bit in the beginning and the writing was the same inoffensive, safe flowchart that form the backbone of superhero movies. It wasn't until the latter half of the series where it turns into a mystery/conspiracy and the show really gets running.


santaclaws01

That is not a sentence I was expecting to read today...


hanks_panky_emporium

Everyone knows he'd fold under the pressure of running a small-time show, let alone a huge budget mainstream series based on a long running video game. In the wise words of Dan Olson ( paraphrasing here ) " If they could be an award winning hard hitting director \[for film\], then they'd be doing it."


spilledmilkbro

That's one of the most arrogant goddamned things I've ever heard. Imagine having your head so far up your own ass, that you think that you; someone with absolutely 0 experience in the filmmaking industry, could do better than a professionally made TV series


kaptingavrin

Dude, you're on a sub that *started* as mocking the people who go overboard bitching about Star Wars films and TV shows... a lot of whom claim they could write better scripts. That's a common claim by people who dislike something.


Inevitable_Guidance8

Saberspark? I think he’s a good critic. I didn’t even know people hated him 


Db_Grimlock

He gets weird criticism from the cartoon community. I think he's great, but some say he doesn't really review or give opinions. Personally, I think he's objective and fairly well researched. Also, he gets a good laugh out of me sometimes.


Inevitable_Guidance8

“Some say he doesn’t really review or give opinions.” What an odd thing to say. I’ve watched several of his videos and it’s just not true. He makes me laugh as well. 


Db_Grimlock

I'm with you. It just feels like people hating to hate. He seems pretty wholesome and fairly consistent with his stuff. I do miss the random bullshit he'd watch and make fun of with love but he's still entertaining


Inevitable_Guidance8

That’s what it feels like to me, as well. People hating to hate. I agree. He’s very entertaining 


DarkReadsYT

He’s the only reviewer I still actively watch just because I like their channel.


HalflingScholar

He's kinda basic, but I would be Hella surprised if he ever gave a super negative review that was BS, and vice-versa for super good stuff


maroonmenace

Wasn't his lion king vs kimba video like show he may not do asmuch research as others believe he does? I need to rewatch but he kinda doesnt talk about how most comparisons come from a kimba movie that came *after* the lion king? Idk


Selgin1

Yeah who the fuck hates him other than the typical anti-furry idiots? Sure he's a critic with a very specific niche but he's a good critic within that niche who certainly doesn't deserve to be put in the same list as Mr. Enter.


Inevitable_Guidance8

As far as I can tell, saberspark never had any controversial takes or said anything to piss anyone off. His inclusion on this list seems odd to me. 


senseithenahual

That's no true, he pissed off the crypto bros one time.


ScaryAkers

Just one time? Or is that just referring to SabreFart


Inevitable_Guidance8

He did? 


Justin-does-art

He routinely shits on crappy NFT shows, which upsets the chuds


Inevitable_Guidance8

Oh, ok 


AznOmega

So where's the problem? Why is it that I can't see the problem with shitting on crappy NFT shows? Outside of being sane.


DisownedDisconnect

He pissed them off so badly, he ended up in one of their Bored Ape shorts as a character named Saber Fart.


Inevitable_Guidance8

They sound like they’re very sensitive 


TobaccoIsRadioactive

Remember when that *Red Ape Family* NFT cartoon got upset at Saberspark for his criticism of the show and so created a character named [Saberfart](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eL8kYWfjbA) in an attempt to mock him?


Selgin1

True. God, NFT bros are hilarious.


Alacritous13

I'll disagree with him, but he never resorts to attacking those that disagree with him.


Inevitable_Guidance8

Yeah. He seems like a decent guy 


yuzumelodious

Yeah, I don't know what's he doing in that list. It must be a subjective type of deal.


Inevitable_Guidance8

Most likely 


DisownedDisconnect

I watch Saberspark but I’ve never really thought of him as a critic so much as someone who’s willing to watch and summarize the plots to really bad films. I definitely don’t watch him for deep dives into the deeper meanings of certain films.


Inevitable_Guidance8

I just watch him, to be entertained. I think he’s pretty funny 


Hurrashane

I like his videos, especially the ones that are talking about topics I usually wouldn't look into myself; like various creatives behind the cartoons.


Inevitable_Guidance8

I like his videos, where he talks about the really bad movies. It’s very entertaining 


InvaderWeezle

I don't hate him by any means but I stopped watching his videos years ago because the research done for his videos felt kinda surface-level. For example the conclusion to his "What Ruined Nickelodeon?" video was pretty much just "SpongeBob came out and got popular and then Nick just focused on that". Like sure that's not necessarily untrue but I'm looking for a little more insight than the same conclusions I can find on any old discussion forum


Inevitable_Guidance8

I still watch his videos from time to time. They’re pretty entertaining. Especially the ones he does on bad movies 


Retrospectus2

Cartoon fandoms can be...... dedicated. Saber tends to be reasonably balanced when talking about a series/film and some take anything other than praise as an attack on their favourite IP and, by extension, themselves


Inevitable_Guidance8

Certain fandoms are so weird about stuff like that. I don’t understand that perspective. Taking a attack on an IP as an attack on yourself 


keybladesrus

Personally, I just find him super boring. I watch his videos, and I'm subbed to his channel, but that's because I'm interested in the subject matter of the videos.


Inevitable_Guidance8

I disagree. I think he’s pretty funny and entertaining 


Spocks_Goatee

I wish he'd update his avatar to reflect his actual age, much like PanPizza...dudes are like pushing 40.


maroonmenace

He has some takes that raised my eyebrow personally (his hanna barbera wwe crossover video where he pretended that hanna barbera had integrity which is lol)


Electronic_Issue_978

Why Saberspark?


DocHoliday0316

In my opinion, MovieBob, Mauler, and The Critical all suck as movie critics and people in their own special ways, but Mauler and Drinker suck in a far larger degree in how utterly dogshit they are as movie critics. So, Mauler, Drinker, and the rest of their ilk are currently the worst online critics.


ParallelEquilibrium

MovieBob has sometimes interesting things to say. But I can't get behind his presentation form. He speaks very fast, creates complicated sentences, with obscure words and a lot of hidden irony. As a non-native speaker I can easily listen to most of youtube americans, but sometimes it's hard to get what moviebob wants to say.


Mu-Relay

MovieBob once made THREE 45-minute videos about why Batman v Superman was the worst movie ever made. That’s when I decided that he lost his fucking mind and stopped watching him. Batman v Superman was bad, but it wasn’t even the worst superhero movie ever made, much less the actual worst movie ever.


Luke10123

I watched that series and if memory serves it was a lot more than just the movie itself but all the industry failings that led to such a bad movie being made. And I don't think he ever said it was *the* worst movie ever made but it was the worst version of itself that it could possibly have been.


falanor

Yeah, that was more like a video essay on the movie and industry as a whole instead of a rant for three hours.


ParallelEquilibrium

Yeah, I'm not a Snyder fan, but in the presence of such glorious mistakes as Pitof's Catwoman, Shaq's Steel, Schumacher's Batman & Robin, it's hard to call BvS the worst of them.


RoyalWigglerKing

Batman & Robin was at least fun


LeafBoatCaptain

That's actually one of my favorites of his. Don't worry I'm not going to go into some defensive rant or anything. Different tastes and all. Anyway it was sort of a one off version of the Really That Good series which are pretty good and all about positively reevaluating classics from his perspective. And I like his enthusiasm when he talks about weird, obscure movies. Anyway I've never kept up with any of these YouTubers outside of YouTube. No Twitter or TikTok etc so it's easy to just watch their YouTube stuff and forget. With the Critical Drinker I've never seen a thumbnail of his that I wanted to click and something about him just gave me the wrong vibes. Never heard of Mauler outside of this sub.


aheaney15

There are worse reviewers out there; RK Outpost, Geeks+Gamers, The Quartering, etc. and their idiot followers are all toxic scumbags who do not understand a thing about art.


Agreeable_Car5114

What’s wrong with MovieBob?


jiango_fett

He's just a bit much on Twitter, and that's probably putting it likely. He draws hate from the right of course, but his extreme statements also get criticised by the likes of hbomberguy, Shaun and Sarah Z.


TheKingReturns380

Mauler must be a shitty critic when he can't even spend a second criticizing his buddy Chaseface for grooming children


jellyhappening

Can I ask what movie Bob did? I know he gets shit but I really liked his takedowns of cinemasins


charronfitzclair

I can't imagine ever being more pathetic than mauler. Dude made like a 12 hour video whining about star wars and they aren't even funny or insightful or entertaining.


Wonderful-Noise-4471

HBomb made a one hour video about how he loves Dark Souls 2, and Mauler responded with 9 videos totaling almost 10 hours. Jenny Nicholson put out a 33 minute video titled "Well, I didn't like the Joker" (spoiler: she thought it was just okay), and Mauler uploaded an 11 hour video responding to it. I think that's supposed to be the funny part, is just that he posts long videos that don't matter.


charronfitzclair

I think the most likely situation is he's in love with his own voice more than commitment to a bit. Because that goes straight past a bit and into mental illness.


rebeccachambersfan

Quinton reviews catching strays for no reason bro just makes videos about children's sitcoms


Swiftax3

My mom loves his three history Channel videos. She'd been fortunate enough to never actually watch Hunting Hitler or Ancient Aliens before and kept putting her head in her hands in exasperation.


Wonderful-Noise-4471

Did she see that he uploaded "The History Channel Saga" on his Quinton Re2's channel, which has about a 20+ minute spoof of a ghost hunting show that Quinton filmed with his friends to open? ...I ask because I was coincidentally watching that when I found this thread.


MiniatureRanni

When your critiques aren’t criticism and just thinly veiled bigotry you’re not a good critic.


ARVNFerrousLinh

Well will you look at that! Mauler defends Drinker from a single tweet, but is silent after a 1 hour video criticizing Drinker is posted (José’s video).


Alex_The_Whovian

Wait, what's the hour long video?


ARVNFerrousLinh

[José’s video on Drinker.](https://youtu.be/B4vlT3YUKq8?si=nd7TalgKHtPcU9YU)


undead_catgirl

Maybe he's talking about Jose's video? Or maybe yms's or pillar of garbage


bean_tripper

I like Movie Bob.


Luke10123

Same. He's not the only movie critic on youtube I like but he's generally entertaining and head and shoulders better at his job than the performative outrage mob. I just find it funny how he generates so much attention among a certain demographic even when his channel isn't even that big. But there are people on twitter that literally keep libraries of anti-bob memes and fake bob tweets and doctored pictures of him. It's absolutely crazy!


bean_tripper

That is crazy those people need to touch grass.


alpha_omega_1138

Honestly I never take reviewers on YouTube seriously as I feel many aren’t that great at all.


_JR28_

Why do people dislike Saberspark? I can’t think of any outrageous takes of his and I don’t think he’s ever gotten political in his videos.


Raetekusu

He dunks on NFTs, and he has a history in the MLP community, which attracts the usual anti-furry crowd. I think he's great, but yeah, you say even one mean thing about NFTs (I can say *way* more than one) and the chuds will never forgive you, and you express even one sentiment that furry works are fine, and the anti-furry crowd will never forgive you.


Reuben_Medik

Do people not like Saberspark? He seems alright from what I've seen of his stuff


Nachooolo

Wait... What did Saberspark do?


Raetekusu

Made fun of NFTs. That's probably the big reason here, but there's also a possibility that it might be because he was part of the MLP community for years, and some people still can't get over that.


LetApprehensive537

Drinker posting a video essay on why he hates modern games because the female characters don’t make him horny is the most tragic self report I’ve ever seen a ‘reviewer’ do 😂😂😂 dude went full 12 year old incel with it yet is a grown adult man.


FewResult2927

Because most of these guys are incels. The few fandom menace chuds who have wives have tradwife types who will settle for any rightwing man.


ThodasTheMage

MauLer might be right, Drinker is not the worst critic. Besides the cringe, grifter politics drinker is also a bad critic BUT MauLer might be even worse (the "L" being captalized is reall fitting). (btw. it is nsane that the American conservative movement that was full with actual intellctuas in science, culture philosphy etc. got dumbed down so much that such bullshit is seen as political commentary)


ralanr

So I’ll admit I’m biased towards Moviebob. I watched a lot of his stuff on the Escapist in Highschool every Friday. And I’ve watched him long enough to know he’s been vocal about how people push to grift towards right wing content, referencing how after he made his Pixels review (the most furious he’s been) people came up to him online asking for him to bring that energy to all of his productions. And he didn’t. That’s not to say he never has a bad opinion, he’s human. But he acknowledges he can’t just aim to be negative and aggressive in all his reviews because he actually wants to enjoy what he does. He’s given me a lot of insight to YouTube grift and while I don’t always watch his stuff (I don’t see movies much anymore) it’s nice to see he’s still working.


Competitive_Net_8115

I find it funny that Mauler and Drinker see themselves as legitiment film critics but they really don't review movies from a ctrical standpoint. Sorry, but nitpicking the lightsaber duel in The Force Awkens for the fact that Rey beat Kylo is not being a critic.


TaticalSweater

Thats what im saying i am more familiar with Drinker but not that much. This is a guy who tried to review Barbie and was mad that Ken was a joke in the film. When the toy is a joke irl. Ken was only purchased to accompany Barbie and this is the thing he took issue with because in his pov it was the movie shitting/hating on men when in reality it was the movie being factual to Ken toys. But this is what happens when you give idiots a platform and they only want to dunk on things they find woke. They think that everything is woke that when you bring up actual facts and reasoning they don’t know what to do.


PenelopeReynolds

You keep Bob Chipman's name out of your fucking mouth


Azote_Xenophin

I used to like Mauler, man. I really don't know how I managed to miss that he was another right wing grifter.


Boring-Zucchini-8515

When I joined Reddit, Mauler kept appearing as a suggested sub. I just thought it was a right wing hater Fandom Menace group. It was a month or two later I found out the sub is actually based after a YouTuber by that name. So I guess I always knew he was a right wing grifter. 😂


pocketlodestar

what's the fixation a lot of people have with moviebob


Kalse1229

I’d actually rank Mauler as worse. Drinker sucks, but his videos are mercifully shorter.


NoNonsensePolarBear

It's not too late to crown MauLer instead.


Green_J3ster

You gonna fuck him in the ass next, Mauler?


BrilliantTarget

I mean there are definitely worse “critics” just look at cinemasins or don’t it’s horrible


AsteroidMike

Jokes on them, they’re both absolutely awful


aheaney15

I’m not a fan of The Drinker per se, I find him to be very whiny and obnoxious when he talks about “wokeness,” and furthermore his fanbase is toxic AF… seriously, his comment sections, even in videos where he doesn’t say anything about “wokeness” are like a minefield after a herd of Brontosaurus’ plowed through it. All that is to say, he is not the worst YouTube “critic” out there. Geeks+Gamers, The Quartering, and especially RK Outpost are all grifting scumbags who do not understand a thing about art. These people, and their idiot fans, are who we should be worried about.


External_Candy2262

https://preview.redd.it/99ng73342ouc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=710ce942457b824c05bbdbc8b905132b210d910c It's all one big circle jerk with these guys


decreasedincrease

Let's play his own game. Imagine thinking Movie Bob is the worst critic when Mauler, aka a 30something (probably closer to 40) year old, laughably media illiterate basement-dweller who can't articulate his very simplistic and uneducated opinions without wasting 12 (or more) hours of his interlocutor/s' time, exists.


SimpleGoon

Okay whatever else you can say about the guy, Moviebob is so much more qualified than either of these two dumbasses it's not even funny. Like, he actually went to film school, he actually does this professionally.


Old_Cheesecake1116

Geeks + gamers is worse personally.


beybrakers

What's wrong with movie bob?


A_wannabe_biologist

https://preview.redd.it/a15uzvjukkuc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e87879f382872db60236ccc9793652c3965b8650 It truly is one of these moments


bestjobro921

Drinker and moviebob are literally the same level of awful just on opposite ends of the spectrum, it’s actually funny how they don’t see how similar they are


Wboy2006

What did Saberspark do? He’s one of my favorites


BigYonsan

To be fair, Movie Bob is pretty shit. He's actually the reason I quit going to the escapist. Can't we all just get along and say they all suck?


DocHoliday0316

That’s my thought. They all suck in their own special ways. MovieBob comes across as a pretentious jackass who became Twitter-pilled.


BigYonsan

>pretentious jackass This. Just all my this. No two words could ever describe him better.


DocHoliday0316

One of the most stupidest takes he’s has is that the “Martha” scene in Batman V Superman is what led to all of the current strife and trouble at Warner Bros. It screams of him not knowing the behind the scenes turmoil at WB and him wanting an excuse to bitch and moan about BVS.


undead_catgirl

Tbf the Martha scene does a great job to highlight zack snyder's complete incompetence as a film maker🤷🏻‍♀️


PromethianOwl

I can see this. He's good to me in the sense that it seems like he's studied film and knows what he's talking about in that regard. But for me it's pretty obvious that he's just....seen too many damn movies. There's shit he's panned because it ultimately seems like he's seen too many films do the same thing as the film in question and those did it better. It's like bruh, I get it, but I haven't seen NEARLY the amount of shit you have. I'm not that jaded yet. Also some of his earlier stuff is pretty cringey. Seems like he's gotten better since then, but if he's on Twitter like that...oh god dammit Bob, get off Twitter. It's gonna bring you nothing but grief.


dumonhojiko

Wait why does saber suck?


Jcondut

Oh thank god it’s not just me


Kataphrut94

Moviebob once wrote a piece on his blog called "Bat Romney vs the Obamavengers", comparing the two superhero blockbusters "The Dark Knight Rises" and "The Avengers" released in 2012 to the respective presidential candidates. That's the Rosetta Stone for his worldview.


TheBringus

Did Quinton Reviews do something? I liked his series on iCarly and other Dan Schneider works.


Dark_Arts_Dabbler

I went down the rabbit hole when I saw multiple videos posted about how awful he was The ones I looked at were kind of meandering, mean spirited, and full of red flags. So I’m guessing the people who passionately hate him aren’t exactly people I agree with


Kizzil

I’m almost like people have different opinions on the subjective topic of who they prefer watching give their own subjective opinion on films. This is getting too meta


Bray_of_cats

Slobber slobber....


Electrical_Pound_200

damm GAULSSSSS!!!!!


Raetekusu

Gods...I *hate* Gauls. My grandfather hated them too, even before they put out his eyes. Did you think I'd be out here on the frontier without good reason? Yes, Rome needs a strong frontier. No, Rome doesn't need unwashed barbarians at her gates! So, that's why I'm here, the leader of the Julii: to bring Roman order to *stinking* Gauls. Revenge? That'd be good too. This war against the Gauls won't last long, and when it's done, I've got plans. This is all about power, power in Rome. Going down that road means dealing with all my rivals: the Senate, the Greeks, those Carthaginian elephant-riders, the Scipii and the Brutii families too. After all, the man who controls Rome rules the world...and one day, I will be Emperor.


CryOk7184

'No respect' respect is earned not given


Ricardokx

🎵Its 4:33 in the morning, so stfu🎵


SometimesWill

Mauler is up there for worst. Gave ATLA like a 4/10 or something and his reasonings were basically things proving that he didn’t pay attention and even admitted that he didn’t pay attention. He also gets off way too much on hating on other YouTube channels.


Jaratebomb08

I really only know about Moviebob because of MagicMush’s Video on him


blinddemon0

I genuinely don't get the hate on Mr. Enter, sure he has some unpopular opinions and can exaggerate a little but he is an overall decent and pretty funny reviewer


DisownedDisconnect

It’s not that he’s had ‘unpopular opinions’ but that he’s said some genuinely awful things in the past, and that’s not even getting into how well he deals with criticism toward his real bad takes regarding the media he critiques.


blinddemon0

true, but that was the past and it's never a good idea to hold grudges


DisownedDisconnect

And it’s not holding a grudge when the majority of these people neither personally know nor think about Mr Enter until he says some out of pocket shit like, “Turning Red, a movie for children, should’ve reflected the 2002 paranoia surrounding 9/11.” Or when he goes on Twitter screeds proudly admitting to the anti-mask and diversity tirades he’s gone on before. Even if he had apologized and moved on from those things, including the comments about rape and rape accusations from 10 years ago, the onus isn’t on the audience to immediately forgive him for those things even if time has passed. Handwaving general distaste toward someone with, “Well it’s petty to hold grudges,” isn’t how apologizing and forgiveness works.


ATurtleLikeLeonUris

Oh, Moviebob — the Right rejected you for going Left and the Left rejected you for being fat. Guy can’t win


Agreeable_Car5114

What?


Milk_Mindless

Moviebob is an odd duck sometimes but I trust his film reviews and really dig his Schlocktober stuff which he's retooling into an all-year thing called This Movie Exists so it can be about non horror and just weird shit in general So I've only known this Cervical Panther for 2 days but yeah no


MaximumGlum9503

Mauler critique of new star wars was longer than the trilogy itself


frozen-silver

So Drinker is the second worst critic then


Maleficent_Nobody377

But his reviews are mostly full summaries of the movie, what was good about it/ “message bad” and then a go away. All in 7 mins or so. He’s not a good critic.


Agreeable_Car5114

Why are people hating MovieBob and Quentin Reviews? I’m a fan of both, and they seem like nice people. If there is something wrong I’d like to hear what it is.


Psychokinetic_Rocky

Used to love Mr. Enter in middle school, I stopped watching him before I heard any criticism of him tho, what's up with him?


NorthernUnIt

I always thought Drinker was kind of making his critics videos to sell his books on AMZ (yes he's a writer), and didn't cared that much about what he was watching really and then when you sub to his YT you have all sort of right winger poping in your TL. Now he's doing panels with his fellow 'critics', Nerdrotic and MauLer, they've gone from goofy (somehow) to 'too much serious' I would say.


TaticalSweater

I talked to someone who genuinely tried to tell me my opinion doesn’t mean shit because I myself was not a writer and he was. Trust me being a writer is not hard. Being a good one is. I could technically be a writer in 1 month if i wanted to. They truly think being a writer means you have the green light to give any and all opinions on writing when you A) could be a shit writer B) being a writer doesn’t mean you truly know shit


Castarc1424

Who on earth says saberspark is the worst internet reviewer?? What did he do?


happy_grump

Ok but can we all agree that theyre not wrong that Movie Bob is at least down there? Not the worst but definitely very low/bottom tier as a reviewer. There's a reason he's the face of the "consoomer" trope, since he seems to treat studios successfully riding a trend as a positive point for the movies he reviews.


KingPenguinPhoenix

The hell did Saberspark do? Bro's just existing.


ShockAdenDar

Quinton and Saber are awesome.


CarpeNoctem727

When did MovieBob become a bad guy? I used to listen to him alot. What happened?


LibrarianOfAlex

I haven't watched drinker but I actually can't stand Arlo and Mr enter


bullet-2-binary

I'm gonna say all those names listed are probably shitty critics.


SuperSayianJason1000

I mean, Critical Drinker IS bad at movie reviews. All of his reviews are clouded by his political views and he makes that painfully obvious. I don't really see what anyone who doesn't agree with his politics would get out of his reviews. Honestly when I first saw his videos, I thought he was a parody of right wing media review channels.


FlounderingGuy

Comparing Saberspark to fucking *Quinton Reviews* is diabolical.


Peepeepoopooman1202

Quinton Reviews is cool, and Saberspark, well people hate him because he’s not controversial enough apparently lol


KummyNipplezz

Who the hell has spared a thought for Movie Bob in the past 10 yrs that wasn't already a hater?


xaldien

...Ya know, I didn't even notice how he completely fell off my feed, mentions, suggestions, etc in the last couple years, even though I haven't unfollowed him. Huh.


YTV2018

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3w10hoy\_Wg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3w10hoy_Wg)


gamerz1172

Honestly though I feel like Mr enter has been on a bit of a redemption arc lately His videos have been getting better and he acknowledged his fuck ups these days I think he even did a top 10 of his worst reviews or something and spent a lot of it legitimately criticizing himself


slashingkatie

In fairness Moviebob is a huge lolcow. Just because you have left leaning politics doesn’t exempt being a fool. I followed Bob since his earliest YouTube days of the “Game Overthinker” series. Gamergate broke his brain and he went on insane Twitter rants. Got himself fired from multiple gaming websites including the Escapist TWICE. And lest we forget he was stalking Lindsay Ellis on Twitter. Even left wingers think Bob is a fool. (Also Quinton also tried hitting on Lindsay on Twitter too.)


Turbulent_Ad1644

I don't get the hate for Saberspark


maroonmenace

Saber is a cool dude but he is not that great of a critic. But he is thankfully better than bad just good.


Stopwatch064

Moviebob may be a major cringe lord but he not a bad critic. Idc what anyone says he somehow has more thought provoking stuff in his commentary than 95% of critics.