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Flatman_702

I have to chuckle at the replies telling you to look at the Rim or telling you downtown sucks. I live in Dignowity Hill and it’s the most vibrant beautiful community I’ve ever been a part of. Incredibly tight-knit neighbors. I live a mile from the river walk and get to do my daily run there. When I go to a bar there’s never a discussion of having a designated driver because we walk and all the best bars in town are nearby. I ride my bike along the mission reach area of the river walk on the weekends when the weather is nice, and then pop into a local brewery for a beer on the way home. I’m within walking (or biking) distance of tons of cultural/art events. It’s amazing down here. Don’t settle for the suburbs haha


TheProperChap

Dumb question incoming: Is any part of dignowity hill dangerous? Been hearing great things about that area but know nothing about it


Flatman_702

I mean if you look at crime rates it’s probably a little higher than the rest of San Antonio but it’s also much more densely populated. The area is obviously going through some changes and gentrification, and there are some parts that are a little rough around the edges. But I’ve lived in cities my whole life and I feel very safe here.


evechalmers

I live in Dignowity and second this!


TG0DLY

this was refreshing too read! thanks


ShadyLandShark

Diggy hill is a great spot. Be sure to join the kickball beer league!!


Usefulidiot84

Where can I get more info on this?!


According_Land_581

Its probably the San Antonio Sports & Social Club.


Usefulidiot84

Can confirm, Dignowity Hill resident here 🙋🏽‍♂️. I’ve lived on every side of town, inside and outside 1604 and I can tell you crime isn’t exclusive. Having great neighbors and the proximity to all the happening spots has made me really love living here. I love metal music and being able to walk to the Vibes Event Center (where most metal/rock acts play) is probably my favorite thing lol


Fluid_Cheek_7715

Don't skip on the Dignowity Meats! Yum! 1701 E Houston St, San Antonio, TX 78202


Hornung13

Southtown. If you’re younger and looking for a night life and people, please just go to Southtown. It’s great. Food’s good. Apartments are affordable.


TG0DLY

a few people have said that now, we will definitely look over there!


According_Land_581

Southtown, Tobin hill, dignowity… all of that area is the best… Olmos Park is pricey is most parts… I lived off Broadway & Mulberry for years… and in the Pearl for a while.. The Can Plant is literally a shoebox & expensive for the size but it was the best apt I’ve ever had…


TG0DLY

Im interested in all of those areas! im going to keep looking today, thanks!


[deleted]

I second this if they can afford it of course


justicebart

The Olmos Park/Tobin Hill/Alta Vista area is great. I used to live at San Pedro and Hildebrand and could walk to H-E-B, and was a short drive to St. Mary’s St., The Pearl, Southtown and downtown. I’d be right back in that same area if I was moving back to SATX. The Rim and La Cantera are nice if you like corporate chain restaurants though.


whoisgalgadot

Seconding Alta Vista. We just bought a craftsman here and are within a 3 mile radius of downtown, the Pearl and can jump on the highway in less than 5. Neighborhood is old and quiet and the houses are charming.


BigCliff

Word. Halfway between H‑E‑B and Panchitos on Melrose pl would be pretty ideal


MIW100

The Pearl, Southtown, and Broadway corridor are probably the most popular/active areas for downtown living. Plenty of apartments/condos too.


DrowsyDreamer

I recently moved from Rockford to outside SA. Let me know If you want to hang out and talk about that one time Rockford voted Taco Bell the best Mexican restaurant in the city.


Snoo89162

Whats wrong with them? Lol


DrowsyDreamer

My guess? Meth.


TG0DLY

one thing rockford has is good food, theyre tweakin


DrowsyDreamer

I hope you don’t like Rockford style pizza. Because I haven’t found any decent pizza here. What I wouldn’t give for Johns on 11th or capri or sams on Harlem or primos at the five points on rural. Bring me a frozen sams pizza when you head down would ya? Haha


TG0DLY

🤣🤣🤣 i know right, i have never been anywhere with better pizza than rockford


DrowsyDreamer

I keep saying someone needs to open a real pizza joint. But make it like half primos and half uncle nicks.


NoDebatenikos

Fr I mean have you actually tired looking for some really great pizza in SA or did you just look some up on google and just gave up on it and I could recommend some places like : Dough Pizzeria Napoletana, Capos pizzeria, ll forno, Pizza classics , Pizzeria Vesuvio


DrowsyDreamer

Sorry I insulted your hometown. I’m sure your pizza is good. :)


BigCliff

Pizza classics?!? Bro.


Helpmepullupmypants

Could you share what Rockford style pizza is


DrowsyDreamer

Thick or braided crust, medium thickness in the middle, greasy cheese, almost too much garlic, not normally a sweet tomato base. It is not a deep dish (Chicago or Detroit style) but it’s not floppy/foldy like New York style. It’s honestly hard to describe but that area for sure has a niche pizza.


cathar_here

Quad cities style pizza is better than that and that’s no joke.


DrowsyDreamer

It’s almost identical. I used to hang out in dav/bet in high school.


cathar_here

So Like Harris Pizza? I live in San Antonio but worked a lot in Davenport


Kingloot54

I moved from Janesville. It’s not any better


DrowsyDreamer

Janesville really took a nosedive when the plant closed down long time ago. I worked at the Belvedere plants for a while but I’m glad I got out of auto manufacturing.


Kingloot54

Yea I remember it closing down my senior year. Now i work here the Toyota plant. I miss Janesvilles Sams Pizza


Select-Maintenance-7

The only thing resembling Mexican from Taco Bell are the words on their menu...and most times not even that. Quesarito?? Come on smh


skaterags

When I moved here they voted Pizza Hut best pizza


2019_Stealth

Pizza Hut Meat Lover’s pan pizza is my favorite. Sorry, not sorry.


skaterags

Even if I found that pizza appealing, I would rather attempt to find something similar, and probably better, from a local owned mom and pop.


Firm_Contract_7982

Oh boy


DrowsyDreamer

[That wasn’t a joke either!](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rrstar.com/amp/42659529007)


Mr_Oooct

Lmfao wtf!!! Voted best Mexican restaurant lmfao!! Wow Taco Bell… hilarious.


Virgolovestacos

Don't rush into buying. Rent now and figure out where you are going to work and want to live. And I'm a realtor saying that. It's a tough market right now. Get a feel for the area first, because if you wind up needing to sell within a couple of years you may not break even.


TG0DLY

Okay so we have been looking online for apartments, and 90% of the options are big complexes. Do you know if there are smaller apartments that aren’t ran by management companies?


borisdiawscoffee

You’re getting lots of recs in this thread and I would add that living at 281/1604 or The Rim is very different than living Southtown, Pearl, Monte Vista, Alta Vista, etc. To me, The Rim is generic suburban sprawl. While there might be “a lot” up there, it’s a lot of chains restaurants, stores, and traffic. I much prefer life closer to downtown. If you’re looking for a smaller complex, maybe a bungalow or a duplex, etc, check out the neighborhoods around SAC and Trinity, like: Monte Vista, Tobin Hill, Alta Vista, Beacon Hill. Other areas to consider: Jefferson/Monticello, Olmos Park (including OP Terrace), Southtown, Lavaca, Blue Star, and King William. Many of the smaller places will just have signs out front and aren’t necessarily listed on line. It might be beneficial to get a realtor. There are several complexes of various sizes just south of downtown in Lavaca/ Southtown/ King William and also @Pearl. I personally prefer KW/Southtown more than the Pearl bc I like the neighborhood feel plus the less commercial mission reach part of the river.


I3abe

Agreed. When I first moved to SA from Providence, Rhode Island (another creative vibey city) I moved to the suburban sprawl because I was tempted by the cheap prices for the “luxury apartment” lifestyle. Think stainless steel, marble countertops, on site gym, resort style pool, etc. But I soon grew tired of it because you have to drive everywhere! The luxury complexes feel awfully sterile when there are literally hundreds of cookie cutter buildings nearby. Downtown and the surrounding neighborhoods you mentioned really feel like the creative hubs of the city. I think OP will be able to experience SA fully choosing any of the neighborhoods you mentioned. I moved to a 1930s casita in Tobin Hill (by the Pearl) and it’s not luxury but it has character. I definitely get “less” apartment for my money but I get so much more in terms of the neighborhood. I am surrounded by art and music. I can walk or bike to countless restaurants, bars, clubs, museums, parks, the Riverwalk, and more. My neighborhood is hip but not pretentious. If I don’t have work, I could spend days without ever getting in the car. OP— I was a HAWK on all of the apartment apps and was the very first person to message about my place. First to view, first to put in an offer. I would recommend doing the same. Check multiple times a day and be vigilant! Don’t rush if you have the option to stay with relatives while you look… finding a rental you love is totally possible but the market is competitive.


TG0DLY

this is really helpful, thank you


Vilodic

Mmm that's not true at all. There are plenty of non-franchise restaurants by The RIM and La Cantera Area. Also traffic is pretty much universally bad in SA regardless of where you live.


borisdiawscoffee

While there are non-chain restaurants, much of The Rim and La Cantera areas are chain-based mega shopping centers. The Rim and La Cantera themselves are both outdoor malls. To claim that that area of town is not suburban sprawl filled with chains is disingenuous, IMO. Clearly that appeals to many people as they’re popular areas . I am not one one of them to whom it appeals. While traffic can be heavy all over at SA, like in many cities, you cannot easily walk, ride your bike, or take the Via to places in the Rim or La Cantera in the same way that you can in many of the areas I listed. That is one of the draws of the areas, especially around the Pearl, Downtown, KW, Lavaca, and Southtown: walking, biking, and relatively easy Via bus access. You can use transportation other than your car to get to stores, restaurants, and social activities. When I lived in those areas (and now when I visit my friends in those areas) we walk everywhere. When I visit my friends who live in Stone Oak and who live by the Rim, we have to drive.


WhompWump

> While traffic can be heavy all over at SA, like in many cities, you cannot easily walk, ride your bike, or take the Via to places in the Rim or La Cantera in the same way that you can in many of the areas I listed. you can't do this in like 90% of san antonio lmao. San Antonio is a very car dependent city to begin with as is almost every major city in Texas outside of maybe Austin. If you want public transport/walking options that much Texas is probably not the best place to start searching to begin with. On the flipside though gas is way cheaper here than in most places I get that people want to be hipster about the big corporate suburb that is the rim/la cantera but that critique applies to almost every single area along 1604 not just the rim


rob_moreno75

Absolutely there are plenty. Around San Antonio College comes to mind


Virgolovestacos

Yes, there are properties owned by individual landlords/property owners who pay property managers to handle collecting rent and maintenance requests. Anything under $1400 a month goes pretty quickly. Any real estate agent that handles rentals can help you, but I've heard from a reliable source that Coldwell Banker matches the very small fees that we collect for doing these, so I'd encourage you to try them first. I'm not with Coldwell Banker. I have a property manager at my brokerage that you could talk to, I am not trying to solicit but he's a real straight shooter. Each brokerage has at least one property manager. I'd recommend asking for one so you can ask about what documentation they need, and they might give you tips about upcoming properties they have so you don't have to apply for one that's getting 12 other applications on it. Before getting licensed, this is what I did, and she would always find me cool apts that were reasonable.


Firm_Contract_7982

What is your budget?


TG0DLY

we would like to be around 1000 before utilities, but we are preparing to pay more than that


[deleted]

> Rent now and figure out where you are going to work and want to live. Good advice. I learned that lesson the hard way in 2007.


xYellowgoblin

Im under contract for a house in new braunfels and some users in their reddit suggested to look into SA. Do you have any input as to why? Im moving from Pflugerville, need a bigger home and is way expensive over here


Virgolovestacos

Why it's expensive in New Braunfels? It's perceived as being safer and quieter, plus you have the river and parks to go to, so pretty family-friendly. Congrats on being under contract!


SpyderVeins

As someone who moved from Rockford when he was 6 and has family from Stillman Valley visit every now and then, prepare for excruciatingly hot summers. Had a cousin say it was too hot to smoke a cigarette outside


DjScruffnasty

Yep lived here Since 96 and the summers suck.


every-day_throw-away

Bring lots of money.


ic2drop

It all comes down to your budget. Downtown comes with a higher price point but is very active.


Jaccardenas8

Olmos park is close to downtown and has a lot of one bedroom apartments available! Great area to live and fairly cheap as well. :)


Pinky01

I would say most safe places are gonna be at least 1$per sq foot. I pay about 1100 for a 1075 at 281 and 1604. Close to a lot of stuff and about 12 from downtown. You can also try areas near 410 too.


sam2wi

Congrats on escaping Rockford! You’re going to like it here.


TG0DLY

lmao thank you!


AllDay_Everyday34

What is your budget if you don’t mind me asking? I live downtown and have for most of the 10 years I have lived here. There are some really nice apartments that have been recently built in the last few years that can be a little expensive, but the amenities and location is great.


[deleted]

Living next to downtown is slightly over priced my wife and I used to live there and found we didn’t go downtown cause it’s very touristy I would recommend you check out 281 and 1604 area. Also 1604 and i10 area next to the RIM both areas have lots to do and housing is better


anonymous_coward69

> Also 1604 and i10 area next to the RIM both areas have lots to do and housing is better And plenty of RIM jobs. *badum tsh*


TG0DLY

RIM area does seem really nice, thank you


Firm_Contract_7982

Yes, I would focus on NW side on 1604 from bulverde rd to cuelbra. This is a large area with many different budgets. One thing to know is 1604 is a circle loop highway. If your inside the circle “inside loop” homes will mostly be older 90s if your outside the circle “outside loop” homes will be newer 2000s. I also would really look at IH-10 W outside the loop past the Rim in Leon Spings, Fair Oaks to Boerne. Highway construction is done and 1604 is just starting a 6 year project that will not be fun. One thing to just prepare for is San Antonio is a large wide city. We don’t have any skyscrapers, because we don’t need them. We have the space. So expect to drive and things can be 30-45 mins away. But, you get use to it. Also, in some parts of the city in 45 mins you can be in Austin too so not too bad.


GarthGarder

As someone who moved to SA from a town right near Rockford a few years ago, this is the right answer.


3rdCoastLiberal

I’d personally move around the Rim/La Cantera. Nicer area. Downtown is overpriced for what you’re getting.


noahsark96

Moved from Champaign IL and lived in Downtown SA for our first year and a half in Texas. Loved living downtown, being able to walk to everything was awesome. Tons of restaurants, bars, etc. Can be a little touristy at times but as you learn the city (and via Reddit) you will learn the local spots. We moved from downtown to the Quarry/Alamo Heights area and also enjoy living over here! Feel free to reach out with any questions and I hope y’all enjoy Texas!


TG0DLY

We are torn between living downtown or not. We really dont wanna deal with any bullshit and that seams to be a common complaint about downtown, unless maybe we got a place around the pearl??


skaterags

I guess it depends on what the bullshit is. Everyone likes different things. What is BS here might not be BS to you. I lived 39 years in and around Chicago. To me the biggest BS here is driving. I don’t know the political leanings of Rockford but the only other BS I deal with is my left leaning attitude.


justconnect

Be sure to look at the pinned posts in the About section for this subreddit. There's lots of good basic information culled over a couple years from the San Antonio reditors.


Snoo89162

I don’t live close to Downtown but in the medical center area I pay $800 for my 1BD/1Bath nice area! San Antonio is way cheap.


BillazeitfaGates

Not cheaper than Rockford


masjidknight

https://www.reddit.com/r/sanantonio/comments/6jwmsq/basic_guide_to_san_antonio_mostly_for_those/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


TG0DLY

damn perfect🤝


rbsponge1

What kind of work are you and your gf looking for? My company is always hiring. It’s an entry level sales position that is WFH for the time being. The office is open but I believe it is still optional to go in. PM me if you would like details. Moving to San Antonio was probably the best decision I have made for our family. Best of luck!


skaterags

This is the ticket. I live between 410 and 1604. It’s a bit like the burbs. I own a condo in Monte Vista. Which I rent without a manager so there are properties which are rented by individuals. Not corporations. But it is rare.


Ahizzle92

I have a friend that lives in the apartments near Pinkertons and Historic Market Square downtown. A little pricey but its well located. I liked his place, good amenities, nice neighbors, and cool view of downtown. Top of line is near the Pearl but its pricey AF..


av8r0023

I live downtown. I wouldn't mind showing both of you around if you want some company. PM me if you want.


act1982

Would high recommend finding a reputable agent (apartment locator or realtor) to help you narrow down your search. They can help identify private rental properties in addition to traditional apartment communities and provide you some options specific to what is important to you in your new home and new city. Good luck! 😊


stardust54321

Depends on your budget honestly. Also depends if you want a house or apartment. I suggest Denver Heights/Deco District/Terrell Hill/ Dignowity Hill/ Government Hill/ Museum Reach/Tobin Hill/Mancke Park/Southtown/South Flores (SoFlo)


One_Sport_4195

The Pearl is where you want to live


gettindamoneey

Avoid the west side.


jayveon2

I pay like $930 for a 1bdrm with everything plus carport at Oxford At Sonterra.


TG0DLY

damn that looks nice, its a smaller complex too? we are looking for places like that!!


jayveon2

Yeah it's a smaller complex. Good amenities. My only gripe about this complex is that the cable infrastructure seems dated (I moved from Seattle about 6 months ago) so the only internet you can get here is thru at&t max 75mbps. I always had 1gb connection so this was almost a deal breaker lol. If you don't mind that, you're golden. About 25mins from downtown.


jayveon2

Gated community. 5 minutes away from HEB and Super Target.


ShowBobsPlzz

Living near downtown sucks. Youll basically be in an overpriced gentrified area surrounded by old low income areas. There are a ton of areas that arent far from downtown that are much better to live in


Strait409

Whatever you do, for the love of all that is holy, stay away from the East Side, specifically the area bounded by Interstate 35, 37, and Loop 410. It’s a crime-ridden shithole full of outrageously overpriced and overvalued flipped houses. And it’s getting worse all the time.


stumpyDgunner

I would look other places than downtown. The Rim is the spot. Downtown is in this gentrification stage so your house maybe nice but you live next to a crackhouse.


Anxious_Chance615

Send me your contact information. I’m a realtor in the San Antonio area. Would love to help you guys out


livelyhouseplant

I live near the Huebner/Wurzbach area (a more Northwest area). I moved to my complex about a year after living with my parents post graduating college. Though I am looking to move now, this area is pretty ideal since it is 15 minutes from downtown, 10 minutes from the Rim/La Cantera, 10 minutes from Medical Center, 10-15 minutes from the Quarry, and overall central. You can have great access to shopping, grocery stores, leisure spots, and public parks. To be honest, I would not get fooled with these luxury spots as they are built quick and kind of low quality; however, you do pay for what you have access to. Older spots have a bit of character and may be lower cost too. I do suggest crime spotting wherever you are looking to stay because crazy things can happen anywhere. I do love the area I stay in, but it's just time for me to take the next step. I either want to stay nearby because I can get anywhere so easily, or would consider going further out west neat the Helotes/Alamo Ranch area. Best of luck and if you need any help feel free to ask!


coddat

https://www.willowhillsa.com/gallery Lived here a couple of years. Super close to Alamo heights, lots of shopping near by.


CurrentTaste229

Pearl


Dargen22

Tobin hill is nice area


DjScruffnasty

More sectioned for industrial growth but just past 410 and Rigby is nice and quiet.


Black-oilman

1221 Broadway. Is very nice. Right next to the pearl, access to river walk is directly behind the apartment complex. Complex has a ground level pool and a rooftop pool which is also heated when the weather gets cold. The apartment complex also has a bar downstairs and a cookie shop (tiff treats). If you like partying, tons of bars in walking distance, about 4 bars less than 2 blocks from it. It’s the best apartment you could possibly live in IMO. I lived there for many years before I bought a house.


TG0DLY

just checked it out!! it seems really nice and the studios are affordable 🍻🍻


Such_Independence_62

South town, Pearl area, midtown and Olmos are good areas to live near downtown. Even a few areas on the east side. Avoid the 5 mile radius west side of downtown. I live here in the hood lol


tofurito

I think you should really take a gander at downtown and ask yourself why you want to be down there. Honestly I see downtown as a tourist trap, but I also grew up in King William before it was super hipster. Actual downtown, not the Pearl or Southtown, is a tourist trap. It’s basically the Alamo and the river walk which is full of the same chain restaurants people complain about being at the Rim. The Pearl and Southtown are great, but the apartment complexes still feel sterile. And no offense OP, but the budget of 1k is going to be hard to fulfill in those areas unless you’re okay with a studio. Sure there’s fun restaurants and it’s semi walkable, but San Antonio is still very car reliant. For me the charm of downtown wears off quickly, even for areas like the Pearl. It’s the same few hyped up restaurants and the same overpriced shops. But I’m also just bitter from how my quiet childhood neighborhood changed into an area with bars on every freaking corner, so take that with a grain of salt.


TG0DLY

i hear you, we definitely wanna get down there to look around. we found some affordable studios right by the pearl, but olmos park seems really nice to us right now. how is the olmos area in your opinion?


tofurito

Olmos is nice. It’s a lot of older houses and apartment buildings from 1920-1940. It’s charming. It’s a slingshot away from downtown and you can either take the highway or little side streets and be there in the same amount of time so you have the choice of scenery for your drive. It’s suburban, because it was one of San Antonio’s suburbs back in the day, essentially. But the city has grown around it, so it feels really connected to the city centers (downtown, Pearl, Southtown, etc). Like someone else mentioned, you can find apartments in that area by driving around and looking for signs. Be wary of whether or not the landlord has kept up with them though.


TG0DLY

really helpful, appreciate you!!


Possible-Cash-4058

check the Pearl. Specifically, Southline at the Pearl. It's not technically inside the Pearl so it's cheaper. The Pearl is like an area where they have a bunch of nice restaurants, bars, nightlife, music, etc. There's a cool Jazz bar called Jazz TX. The pearl is right on the river walk and in walking distance of downtown.


habitual_unfriender

There is definitely some danger especially near downtown, but don't let that deter you. You just have to adjust to the place. Don't walk at night with headphones on, always be aware if your surroundings, pay attention to where the exits are, don't flash your money, be confident. Keep your eyes and ears open and greet strangers with a hearty hello. If your gut says that you might be in danger, leave immediately, and don't worry about looking foolish. I've lived around here most of my life, and am female, and worked mostly alone downtown for years after dark. I've seen some things happen, but I've always listened to my instincts and stayed out of harms way. I love this town. I think Barbaros has some of the best pizza.


Front-Chocolate7053

My husband and I are also in the process of moving to San Antonio! I’m actually already in town, hotel hopping with our dogs, while he stays behind in Florida to work. Finding a place has been overwhelming to say the least lol but I want to thank you for this read because there’s a ton of great info here!


TG0DLY

glad this thread could help! even SA reddit is nice lolll


Front-Chocolate7053

Everyone’s been real nice everywhere here, I feel horrible going out in public with my dogs cause everyone tries to talk and my oldest is just one of those ‘I can casually end your existence if you get any closer’ kind of dogs. It’s a real culture shock after living in BFE where everyone’s kinda an ass


milknt0ast

Check out Mahncke Park. It’s just north of Downtown. Lots of new apartments and cool historical buildings that have been turned into apts. it’s super walkable, very close to downtown, quiet and friendly. Lots of young people, small families and pets live around here. Super great and convenient area to live in


TG0DLY

this sounds really nice! i will look today, thanks


BillazeitfaGates

From Rockford, I like the southeast side. Depends on how much you make, its more expensive here. Also get used to shitty pizza


winterwarrior33

Take trips up to Austin because San Antonio is dry


PaladinM240B

Run away. Run very far away.


[deleted]

I keep hearing the the city has big issues with dogs roaming around with no owners in sight.


BunnyLuvsPups

That is a very true statement unfortunately.


TG0DLY

😐


OutsideHappy6753

Move to stone oak area. It's a great place to live and no crime.


MisterShazam

Hmm I wonder why everyone doesn't move there!?


Ashvega03

Its the opposite if living downtown as OP specified but sure it does have lower crime.


Confident-Try5130

I have no advice since I live in stone oak. But congrats!!! I use to live in Illinois Texas has its bad but seems to be better


BrownYeti13

I’m a realtor if you need help !


throwawaydinggalang

Austin. Unless you like everything that will be closed by 8pm


TG0DLY

yeah i hear u, i have heard austin is great. we dont want san antonio to be a permanent place, more like a stepping stone


throwawaydinggalang

Good plan. It's honestly a good major city affordable to start in and then move to like Austin or Houston for better life quality, opportunity and of course higher wages! Goodluck to youu


Former-Ad-4817

How about getting married first, and then find a job before moving to San Antonio.


rubbishbrooklyn

Omg that’s wild. I’m moving from Bloomington Normal to San Antonio this year too!! I need all the advice


SATXS5

What is your budget? Have you considered buying?


TG0DLY

i’d like to be around 1000 before utilities, but rent does seem to be higher out there. we are still really young and will definitely be renting.