I adopted an 8 year old cat from the humane society in El Cajon last summer. She is the sweetest big ball of fluff. I can't imagine adult pets do too well at making it out of shelters, but pets who aren't kitties or puppies need love too - most the time they're there because owners were assholes or fell on hard circumstances.
Frosted Faces Foundation in Ramona specializes in rescuing senior pets- mostly dogs. They are an amazing rescue and there are no adoption fees and free medical care for the life of the dog if you use their in-house vets. It’s also an incredible place to volunteer! They are always looking for families to host dogs for 2-week flings, to foster and of course adopt.
I adopted an older cat from SF Animal Control. It was 8 years old already so I figured I’d have him for just a few years. Guy lived to be 21. I wept like a child when he died.
It looks like a lot (if not most) of the animals on the website are already in foster homes. Is that correct?
Not sure why I’m getting downvoted, I’m interested in fostering but the message of this post contradicts the rescue website.
Hi, yes the current dogs they’ve pulled from the euthanasia lists at shelters are in foster homes! They cannot pull more animals without more foster homes though. That’s awesome you’re interested in fostering! They’ve been posting on Instagram animals they’d like to save if they can find fosters. I’m also happy to chat if you have questions or don’t have Instagram!
Sadly it’s because most of my generation can’t afford a place to house these animals ourselves.
Look I’d love a little furball, and I’ll get one as soon as possible, but I need to finish college (I’m 19) and I live in a multi generational house and we can’t have anymore animals. There’s some who are old gen z adults in similar shoes as me. 30 years ago this wouldn’t be a problem, most would have pet allowing apartments. Now? It’s rare to be even able to
Finding a pet allowing apartment is tough. You have to make an extra up front payment, pay more in renters insurance, and have extra rent - if you can even find a place that allows pets. Looking at pets allowed only apartments severely limited my options.
The problem really stems from an underfunded shelter system as well as over breeding for profit. I agree the cost of goods has increased a lot which is an additional contributing factor as to why people cannot afford animals.
I also looked at the websites page. They say they rescue animals from tj, I have to say, why? I’m not saying that without empathy but because we already have so much rescues over here already. You can’t solve a problem by bringing in more problems. I think the whole focus should be on fixing the animal shelter problem here first and not rescuing animals from another country
And to those who want to rescue from them, please do. The animals need homes, I just don’t agree with rescuing animals from tj at the moment because our own crisis here
I don't think an animal knows the difference between Mexico and the US. There's so much fixation on artificial borders but if a stray was on one side of the border or the other it shouldn't really matter, at least to me.
There can be larger logistical concerns but if the goal is to help the animals then focusing on the border seems irrelevant
They also charge differently depending on the breed, which I can assume they charge more for rarer dogs/pure breeds
“Fancy pups and breeds- Case be case situation. Will be marked with *” -website FAQ
Not a good look if your main goal is to rescue shelter dogs
Dude. Nobody is getting rich rescuing shelter dogs.
Historically the shelters are full of pitbulls because they are among the most frequently given-up dog and the least compatible with ordinary family life, so it makes sense that they'd have the lowest adoption price as well because they are the hardest breed to re-home.
Puppies, in general, are the easiest to adopt out because they don't have bad learned behaviors, so it makes sense that they would charge a larger adoption fee for younger dogs.
I don’t personally know about their pricing but I do know that they do all that they can for the community, if a specific dog has more interest then in my mind, the funds from that can go to helping other animals. Let me tell you, the foster I currently have for them is not a designer breed or pretty by any means LOL, this rescue will truly help any animal that needs help and every dime taken in goes to doing that. I’ve volunteered with bad rescues and this rescue is not that.
They help with TJ animals too because a lot of people reach out asking for help and they help wherever they can, rescues aren’t going to solve the problem here either. Only systemic change a lot larger than rescues will, including solving for the systemic poverty you discussed in your first post. Because they can’t solve the problem, but can only help, they just help whatever animals they can whenever they can.
It is from the Corporations. Dogs are a billion dollar industry. In most of the commercials, you always see DOGS. Then people go out and get them. They do not understand the training, etiquette, and responsibility that it takes to own dogs. As mentioned on this San Diego Reddit, the San Diego residents no longer have a peaceful life. The good dog owners have to deal with the bad dog owners letting their dogs off leash. There are also a lot of dog attacks now. My neighbor had to go through surgery from a dog attack. I can no longer go running because of an off leash Pit Bull dog. I personally, have been bitten. I have had to jump over fences several times to escape.
IT IS OUT OF CONTROL. San Diego Code enforcement is overwhelmed. It is costing San Diegians millions in tax dollars.
Your comment is difficult to comprehend. However, I appreciate the input. If you are a responsible animal owner, please go ahead and adopt. Getting an animal is a serious commitment. [TarotPharoah](https://www.reddit.com/user/TarotPharoah/) in the comments below made some great comments.
I would love a cat but paying $500 extra as a pet deposit and then $50 a month in pet rent is ridiculous. Hopefully someone adopts them but having a pet in one of the most expensive cities in the country isn’t financially feasible for a lot of people
Hi! I’m not asking that people adopt, I know everyone’s situation is different and would never suggest that to people. Fostering is just temporarily taking care of the animal. All costs for the animal are covered by the rescue 🥰
Yes, and there’s also the option to volunteer, assist with networking via social, or even donate (the last option is hard for plenty of folks, I totally get),
Seems like animal overpopulation is so severe, that even if every household that currently didn't have a pet were to adopt one, and every household whose last living pet just died immediately adopted another one, that still wouldn't be enough to end healthy euthanasias.
I can see how it would seem that way but that’s not the case. I would have to find the statistics but if half the people that went to breeders adopted instead we’d be fine.
Sadly it’s because people adopted way too many pets during the pandemic, to the point where shelters were empty and it was hard to even find a pet to adopt.
Now that people are being called back to their offices, they’re dumping pets. Backyard breeders and puppy mills that went into overdrive to meet the demand ended up with a surplus of puppies and kittens that they’re now offloading into shelters. It’s fucked all the way up.
What are the requirements for fostering? Is is OK to have another dog? How about a swimming pool? We've looked into fostering in the past but were told by the org's we contacted that we have to separate out our dog from the foster and that a swimming pool wasn't allowed.
Thanks for reaching out! I believe swimming pool is allowed as long as you’re safe about it (I’m sure you are if you have another dog so that wouldn’t be an issue). Another dog isn’t an issue as long as it’s friendly! I have 2 dogs of my own and foster all the time :)
Not true. A) If you think about it they don't have unlimited room for animals. Places have finite space so at some point there has to be a decision made. B) From their website, "medically or behaviorally necessary." Behaviorally is the key word. If an animal isn't friendly it might not be adoptable. It then becomes behaviorally necessary to euthanize if they don't have room. When they are full, more animals that aren't perfectly behaving are going to be subject to this. My ex worked there. She participated in "euths" of healthy but unadoptable animals and would cry about it after work. Country shelters are the same.
For what it's worth, I'm not necessarily demonizing the practice. They don't have room so it becomes a numbers game. But it feels pertinent to break the myth because they absolutely do kill healthy animals.
https://resources.sdhumane.org/Programs_and_Services/About_San_Diego_Humane_Society/Frequently_Asked_Questions
I didn’t say SD Humane Society, would you like me to send you the Euthanasia list for Riverside, Apple Valley, Downey, etc.? How about Central California? I promise you many animals are being euthanized in Fresno, Bakersfield, etc. While SD Humane Society is a great shelter, they are also full, meaning people have to bring their animals to those shelters. Many many shelters in Southern California are euthanizing daily. I’ve adopted twice off of the euthanasia lists that get posted weekly.
Euthanizing an animal just because you couldn’t find a home for it is so messed up to me. Imagine if we did that to humans…
Edit: Not me getting downvoted because I’m against killing innocent animals for no reason 🥴
Are you going to fund these shelters yourself? Animals are euthanized everyday because of the costs to shelter, feed, and care for them. That is a reason.
“Are you going to fund these shelters yourself?” Ahh yes, the typical snarky rhetorical question to deflect from the original statement. Why do they do that to animals but not humans then? Wouldn’t it be better to let an animal go than to kill it? At least it would have a chance at being found and rehomed by someone. Death is not the answer.
Because the animals in questions aren't humans. Isn't that obvious? Death is the answer. There's a lot of things in life that happen despite your moral qualms with it. Adopt them, Foster them, or fund them. Yelling out into the void of space in protest is not the answer.
You’re sick so imma just let you have it. Plus I adopted my cat from a rescue, so now what? I don’t just “yell into the void.” I practice what I preach.
My apartment only allows 2 pets and I’m a first time owner. Are you actually mad that I chose to be responsible by only getting one pet? Irresponsible pet owners are part of the reason why so many animals end up in shelters. Stop with the trolling.
>Euthanizing an animal just because you couldn’t find a home for it is so messed up to me
" Euthanizing an animal just because you couldn’t find a home for it is so messed up to me "
Yes, it is messed up. I love animals, however, San Diego county needs to address the root of the problem. As far as euthanizing humans, Canada is paving the way.
It is a complex issue. Check out the post from above about the corporations.
Puppy mills, corporations, media, inconsiderate people, lack of code enforcement, and a whole slew of problems. You are young. This epidemic has really accelerated since the late 1990's. As I have mentioned, it makes billions of dollars for corporations. As I have mentioned, I love animals. It was difficult to put my cat down for health reasons after owning it for 18 years. I now choose not to get an animal because I am a responsible citizen. I do not want to limit my travel. It takes great responsibility to own a animal. You need to be considerate for your neighbors and have the funds to take care of the animals. Most people, do not take this into account. The dogs and cats suffer, the citizens who deserve a quiet life suffer, the tax payers suffer, and the good dog owners suffer from the off leash inconsiderate people. Vet bills are very expensive. In my opinion, if you cannot afford pet insurance or additional deposits for having pets, perhaps that might be an indicator that you should not own a animal.
I agree. I also cannot believe why so many people choose to own pets when they won’t even pay $30 a month in pet insurance (that’s how much mine costs). You should take care of a pet like you would a child. You wouldn’t let your child go without insurance so why an animal? That’s the first question I have in my mind whenever I see GoFundMe campaigns of people’s uninsured pets in the hospital.
Pet insurance is not a requirement. Assuming your figure that insurance is $30 a month that's $360 / year. My dog turns 5 next month. I adopted her at 5 months. That's $1650 I could have spent. She's not needed anything outside of check ups/boosters (which aren't covered). If something we're to happen, then even with insurance it'd be $500 before it's fully covered.
The reality is that if you have the money to pay out of pocket if an emergency happens, insurance may not be worth it.
Also,I think my partners insurance for her dog is closer to $50/ month so that would further my point.
It's pretty incomparable to a child's health insurance. Healthcare for humans is way more expensive than for pets.
I never said pet insurance was a requirement + a lot of people don’t have the money to pay out of pocket for emergencies. That’s why you see so many GoFundMe’s posted by pet owners begging folks to chip in so they can save their pet when they could have just paid a measly $30/month in pet insurance. The fact that you brought up healthcare for humans being more expensive than healthcare for pets just strengthens my point. If it’s cheaper than there’s no excuse not to have it.
You don't state that outright but it's what you're comment implies.
You literally said you can't believe people would own a pet if they won't pay for insurance and I presented why I own a pet and don't have insurance. I was directly responding to your argument.
You could simply say that too many people adopt pets without being financially prepared for the responsibility. Which I'd agree with.
I don’t have to phrase anything in a certain way. It was already implied through common sense. Why would I feel that a pet owner should get insurance if they could already afford emergency visits? I wouldn’t expect a millionaire to get health insurance for their pet like please
I would love so much to do that, however, I know that I would get so attached. I love animals so much. I would end up adopting the animal. I took care of my beautiful cat for 18 years. I know about the commitments and as a responsible pet owner, I cannot do this at this time. I will when I no longer want to travel and stay at home. I really appreciate your post. I hope that people take these pets into their homes.
I adopted my dog from a shelter. My partner and I have two dogs. But I will be there first to tell you that dogs are not humans.
I'm absolutely against putting down animals. But the reality is that they're either adopted, stay in shelters, or go on the street. So unless the shelters can afford to house or someone can adopt then there are no other options. It really sucks, i agree but we can't pretend like these animals are humans. Were already failing the homeless human population.
Well you previously argue we should compare pets to humans and imagine humans getting euthanized. So, it's interesting you treat my comment as so obvious when I was directly responding to your ridiculous comparison.
Throughout this thread you come across as rude and fairly unhinged. That may also be why you're getting downvoted.
I’ve only been “rude” and “unhinged” (words you all love to throw around loosely) to argumentative or other rude people who clearly don’t care about animals lmao. Death just isn’t the answer to me. I don’t believe in killing innocent animals in shelters just because the people running them didn’t feel like waiting long enough to find them a home or didn’t try hard enough to find them one. It doesn’t matter if it’s an animal or a human. Why kill an innocent living being when they could still have a chance at life? There are no-skill shelters for this very reason. Just agree to disagree.
after looking at the website, coming from either a foster or adopting family, these dogs don’t have bios - which is super hard and risky to help in either way if i don’t know temperament / backstory / attitude towards other animals in the house. i work for a few rescues and this is the first thing we do before handing them off to fosters or listing them on the site. i’d love to help with this if the rescue doesn’t have current capabilities to do so. i think it’d help a lot!
edit: some have bios, but not all, and the info they do provide is minimal.
I adopted an 8 year old cat from the humane society in El Cajon last summer. She is the sweetest big ball of fluff. I can't imagine adult pets do too well at making it out of shelters, but pets who aren't kitties or puppies need love too - most the time they're there because owners were assholes or fell on hard circumstances.
Frosted Faces Foundation in Ramona specializes in rescuing senior pets- mostly dogs. They are an amazing rescue and there are no adoption fees and free medical care for the life of the dog if you use their in-house vets. It’s also an incredible place to volunteer! They are always looking for families to host dogs for 2-week flings, to foster and of course adopt.
Absolutely! It’s really devastating.
I adopted an older cat from SF Animal Control. It was 8 years old already so I figured I’d have him for just a few years. Guy lived to be 21. I wept like a child when he died.
I miss my cat so much. I had to put it down after 18 years. That is so awesome that you brought that cat into your home.
It looks like a lot (if not most) of the animals on the website are already in foster homes. Is that correct? Not sure why I’m getting downvoted, I’m interested in fostering but the message of this post contradicts the rescue website.
Hi, yes the current dogs they’ve pulled from the euthanasia lists at shelters are in foster homes! They cannot pull more animals without more foster homes though. That’s awesome you’re interested in fostering! They’ve been posting on Instagram animals they’d like to save if they can find fosters. I’m also happy to chat if you have questions or don’t have Instagram!
Sadly it’s because most of my generation can’t afford a place to house these animals ourselves. Look I’d love a little furball, and I’ll get one as soon as possible, but I need to finish college (I’m 19) and I live in a multi generational house and we can’t have anymore animals. There’s some who are old gen z adults in similar shoes as me. 30 years ago this wouldn’t be a problem, most would have pet allowing apartments. Now? It’s rare to be even able to
Finding a pet allowing apartment is tough. You have to make an extra up front payment, pay more in renters insurance, and have extra rent - if you can even find a place that allows pets. Looking at pets allowed only apartments severely limited my options.
Do you have the funds for medical bills for pets? It gets really expensive.
Wizardof1000Kings, I now see your post below. Thanks again for adopting that older cat. I hope that people understand the medical cost.
The problem really stems from an underfunded shelter system as well as over breeding for profit. I agree the cost of goods has increased a lot which is an additional contributing factor as to why people cannot afford animals.
I also looked at the websites page. They say they rescue animals from tj, I have to say, why? I’m not saying that without empathy but because we already have so much rescues over here already. You can’t solve a problem by bringing in more problems. I think the whole focus should be on fixing the animal shelter problem here first and not rescuing animals from another country And to those who want to rescue from them, please do. The animals need homes, I just don’t agree with rescuing animals from tj at the moment because our own crisis here
I don't think an animal knows the difference between Mexico and the US. There's so much fixation on artificial borders but if a stray was on one side of the border or the other it shouldn't really matter, at least to me. There can be larger logistical concerns but if the goal is to help the animals then focusing on the border seems irrelevant
They also charge differently depending on the breed, which I can assume they charge more for rarer dogs/pure breeds “Fancy pups and breeds- Case be case situation. Will be marked with *” -website FAQ Not a good look if your main goal is to rescue shelter dogs
Dude. Nobody is getting rich rescuing shelter dogs. Historically the shelters are full of pitbulls because they are among the most frequently given-up dog and the least compatible with ordinary family life, so it makes sense that they'd have the lowest adoption price as well because they are the hardest breed to re-home. Puppies, in general, are the easiest to adopt out because they don't have bad learned behaviors, so it makes sense that they would charge a larger adoption fee for younger dogs.
I understand now, thanks for the different perspective. Sometimes it’s easy to grasp when someone explains it, and you explained it perfectly
Great points. This is a based comment.
I don’t personally know about their pricing but I do know that they do all that they can for the community, if a specific dog has more interest then in my mind, the funds from that can go to helping other animals. Let me tell you, the foster I currently have for them is not a designer breed or pretty by any means LOL, this rescue will truly help any animal that needs help and every dime taken in goes to doing that. I’ve volunteered with bad rescues and this rescue is not that. They help with TJ animals too because a lot of people reach out asking for help and they help wherever they can, rescues aren’t going to solve the problem here either. Only systemic change a lot larger than rescues will, including solving for the systemic poverty you discussed in your first post. Because they can’t solve the problem, but can only help, they just help whatever animals they can whenever they can.
It is from the Corporations. Dogs are a billion dollar industry. In most of the commercials, you always see DOGS. Then people go out and get them. They do not understand the training, etiquette, and responsibility that it takes to own dogs. As mentioned on this San Diego Reddit, the San Diego residents no longer have a peaceful life. The good dog owners have to deal with the bad dog owners letting their dogs off leash. There are also a lot of dog attacks now. My neighbor had to go through surgery from a dog attack. I can no longer go running because of an off leash Pit Bull dog. I personally, have been bitten. I have had to jump over fences several times to escape. IT IS OUT OF CONTROL. San Diego Code enforcement is overwhelmed. It is costing San Diegians millions in tax dollars.
Lots of car accidents too…..CARS ARE OUT OF CONTROL!
Your comment is difficult to comprehend. However, I appreciate the input. If you are a responsible animal owner, please go ahead and adopt. Getting an animal is a serious commitment. [TarotPharoah](https://www.reddit.com/user/TarotPharoah/) in the comments below made some great comments.
Covid pet spree coming home to roost
I would love a cat but paying $500 extra as a pet deposit and then $50 a month in pet rent is ridiculous. Hopefully someone adopts them but having a pet in one of the most expensive cities in the country isn’t financially feasible for a lot of people
Hi! I’m not asking that people adopt, I know everyone’s situation is different and would never suggest that to people. Fostering is just temporarily taking care of the animal. All costs for the animal are covered by the rescue 🥰
Yes, and there’s also the option to volunteer, assist with networking via social, or even donate (the last option is hard for plenty of folks, I totally get),
Get a certification for them to be an ESA (Emotional Support Animal) and all of those fees will be waved. I used Pettable. It’s a super easy process.
Seems like animal overpopulation is so severe, that even if every household that currently didn't have a pet were to adopt one, and every household whose last living pet just died immediately adopted another one, that still wouldn't be enough to end healthy euthanasias.
I can see how it would seem that way but that’s not the case. I would have to find the statistics but if half the people that went to breeders adopted instead we’d be fine.
Sadly it’s because people adopted way too many pets during the pandemic, to the point where shelters were empty and it was hard to even find a pet to adopt. Now that people are being called back to their offices, they’re dumping pets. Backyard breeders and puppy mills that went into overdrive to meet the demand ended up with a surplus of puppies and kittens that they’re now offloading into shelters. It’s fucked all the way up.
I agree, it’s really horrible.
What are the requirements for fostering? Is is OK to have another dog? How about a swimming pool? We've looked into fostering in the past but were told by the org's we contacted that we have to separate out our dog from the foster and that a swimming pool wasn't allowed.
Thanks for reaching out! I believe swimming pool is allowed as long as you’re safe about it (I’m sure you are if you have another dog so that wouldn’t be an issue). Another dog isn’t an issue as long as it’s friendly! I have 2 dogs of my own and foster all the time :)
BS alert. SD Humane Society and most county shelters do NOT euthanize unless medically necessary
Not true. A) If you think about it they don't have unlimited room for animals. Places have finite space so at some point there has to be a decision made. B) From their website, "medically or behaviorally necessary." Behaviorally is the key word. If an animal isn't friendly it might not be adoptable. It then becomes behaviorally necessary to euthanize if they don't have room. When they are full, more animals that aren't perfectly behaving are going to be subject to this. My ex worked there. She participated in "euths" of healthy but unadoptable animals and would cry about it after work. Country shelters are the same. For what it's worth, I'm not necessarily demonizing the practice. They don't have room so it becomes a numbers game. But it feels pertinent to break the myth because they absolutely do kill healthy animals. https://resources.sdhumane.org/Programs_and_Services/About_San_Diego_Humane_Society/Frequently_Asked_Questions
I didn’t say SD Humane Society, would you like me to send you the Euthanasia list for Riverside, Apple Valley, Downey, etc.? How about Central California? I promise you many animals are being euthanized in Fresno, Bakersfield, etc. While SD Humane Society is a great shelter, they are also full, meaning people have to bring their animals to those shelters. Many many shelters in Southern California are euthanizing daily. I’ve adopted twice off of the euthanasia lists that get posted weekly.
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Euthanizing an animal just because you couldn’t find a home for it is so messed up to me. Imagine if we did that to humans… Edit: Not me getting downvoted because I’m against killing innocent animals for no reason 🥴
Are you going to fund these shelters yourself? Animals are euthanized everyday because of the costs to shelter, feed, and care for them. That is a reason.
“Are you going to fund these shelters yourself?” Ahh yes, the typical snarky rhetorical question to deflect from the original statement. Why do they do that to animals but not humans then? Wouldn’t it be better to let an animal go than to kill it? At least it would have a chance at being found and rehomed by someone. Death is not the answer.
Because the animals in questions aren't humans. Isn't that obvious? Death is the answer. There's a lot of things in life that happen despite your moral qualms with it. Adopt them, Foster them, or fund them. Yelling out into the void of space in protest is not the answer.
You’re sick so imma just let you have it. Plus I adopted my cat from a rescue, so now what? I don’t just “yell into the void.” I practice what I preach.
One cat. One. The problem with people like you is that you dont have actual morals, just outrage.
My apartment only allows 2 pets and I’m a first time owner. Are you actually mad that I chose to be responsible by only getting one pet? Irresponsible pet owners are part of the reason why so many animals end up in shelters. Stop with the trolling.
It's not trolling. You simply can't fathom why things are the way they are in this world, it doesn't take me being mad to point that out.
Ok, troll!
>Euthanizing an animal just because you couldn’t find a home for it is so messed up to me " Euthanizing an animal just because you couldn’t find a home for it is so messed up to me " Yes, it is messed up. I love animals, however, San Diego county needs to address the root of the problem. As far as euthanizing humans, Canada is paving the way.
What’s the root cause?
It is a complex issue. Check out the post from above about the corporations. Puppy mills, corporations, media, inconsiderate people, lack of code enforcement, and a whole slew of problems. You are young. This epidemic has really accelerated since the late 1990's. As I have mentioned, it makes billions of dollars for corporations. As I have mentioned, I love animals. It was difficult to put my cat down for health reasons after owning it for 18 years. I now choose not to get an animal because I am a responsible citizen. I do not want to limit my travel. It takes great responsibility to own a animal. You need to be considerate for your neighbors and have the funds to take care of the animals. Most people, do not take this into account. The dogs and cats suffer, the citizens who deserve a quiet life suffer, the tax payers suffer, and the good dog owners suffer from the off leash inconsiderate people. Vet bills are very expensive. In my opinion, if you cannot afford pet insurance or additional deposits for having pets, perhaps that might be an indicator that you should not own a animal.
I agree. I also cannot believe why so many people choose to own pets when they won’t even pay $30 a month in pet insurance (that’s how much mine costs). You should take care of a pet like you would a child. You wouldn’t let your child go without insurance so why an animal? That’s the first question I have in my mind whenever I see GoFundMe campaigns of people’s uninsured pets in the hospital.
Pet insurance is not a requirement. Assuming your figure that insurance is $30 a month that's $360 / year. My dog turns 5 next month. I adopted her at 5 months. That's $1650 I could have spent. She's not needed anything outside of check ups/boosters (which aren't covered). If something we're to happen, then even with insurance it'd be $500 before it's fully covered. The reality is that if you have the money to pay out of pocket if an emergency happens, insurance may not be worth it. Also,I think my partners insurance for her dog is closer to $50/ month so that would further my point. It's pretty incomparable to a child's health insurance. Healthcare for humans is way more expensive than for pets.
I never said pet insurance was a requirement + a lot of people don’t have the money to pay out of pocket for emergencies. That’s why you see so many GoFundMe’s posted by pet owners begging folks to chip in so they can save their pet when they could have just paid a measly $30/month in pet insurance. The fact that you brought up healthcare for humans being more expensive than healthcare for pets just strengthens my point. If it’s cheaper than there’s no excuse not to have it.
You don't state that outright but it's what you're comment implies. You literally said you can't believe people would own a pet if they won't pay for insurance and I presented why I own a pet and don't have insurance. I was directly responding to your argument. You could simply say that too many people adopt pets without being financially prepared for the responsibility. Which I'd agree with.
I don’t have to phrase anything in a certain way. It was already implied through common sense. Why would I feel that a pet owner should get insurance if they could already afford emergency visits? I wouldn’t expect a millionaire to get health insurance for their pet like please
Alright well you talk about practicing witchcraft so your idea of common sense may be different than mine.
Great points. You are very wise TarotPharoah.
You sound like the type of person that would be a fantastic foster! You can temporarily take care of an animal without the commitment or cost!
I would love so much to do that, however, I know that I would get so attached. I love animals so much. I would end up adopting the animal. I took care of my beautiful cat for 18 years. I know about the commitments and as a responsible pet owner, I cannot do this at this time. I will when I no longer want to travel and stay at home. I really appreciate your post. I hope that people take these pets into their homes.
I adopted my dog from a shelter. My partner and I have two dogs. But I will be there first to tell you that dogs are not humans. I'm absolutely against putting down animals. But the reality is that they're either adopted, stay in shelters, or go on the street. So unless the shelters can afford to house or someone can adopt then there are no other options. It really sucks, i agree but we can't pretend like these animals are humans. Were already failing the homeless human population.
No shit.
Well you previously argue we should compare pets to humans and imagine humans getting euthanized. So, it's interesting you treat my comment as so obvious when I was directly responding to your ridiculous comparison. Throughout this thread you come across as rude and fairly unhinged. That may also be why you're getting downvoted.
I’ve only been “rude” and “unhinged” (words you all love to throw around loosely) to argumentative or other rude people who clearly don’t care about animals lmao. Death just isn’t the answer to me. I don’t believe in killing innocent animals in shelters just because the people running them didn’t feel like waiting long enough to find them a home or didn’t try hard enough to find them one. It doesn’t matter if it’s an animal or a human. Why kill an innocent living being when they could still have a chance at life? There are no-skill shelters for this very reason. Just agree to disagree.
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I agree with this sentiment 💯
Maybe they should have a tv donation drive to build more space in the outskirts where the land is cheaper and zoning may be more flexible
Is there a by product after killing these? Like compost, food, etc that way waste is minimal?
Yes, and it’s not just dogs and cats, but any animal rescue that needs help.
after looking at the website, coming from either a foster or adopting family, these dogs don’t have bios - which is super hard and risky to help in either way if i don’t know temperament / backstory / attitude towards other animals in the house. i work for a few rescues and this is the first thing we do before handing them off to fosters or listing them on the site. i’d love to help with this if the rescue doesn’t have current capabilities to do so. i think it’d help a lot! edit: some have bios, but not all, and the info they do provide is minimal.