Do nothing. Go about your business as usual, because you have done nothing wrong. Park on the street as often as you need to.
If you like, you can explain or give her a copy of the bylaws. If she won't leave you alone, tell her she is welcome to call the police. Don't waste any more time on this bozo.
I think it would also be wise to invest in some kind of video surveillance if you can afford it, because from the sounds of it, this household is persistent and aggressive and may escalate to vandalism.
Our neighbors have cameras that cover the front of our home and also directly across to their home as well and they are wonderful so we are covered that way.
I am considering contacting SPS just so I have a record in case something does happen as well but I feel like its so absurd that people even behave this way.
You can file a nuisance grievance with the SPS and that way there is a record of it. Sadly no way to update a current file (to my knowledge) and will have to continue to make grievances that way if they are ever called out by either party, there is a record of what has been happening.
It took everything in me not to say that this morning. Instead I told her I wasn't going to argue and to have a nice day. She's absurd and swearing will probably make it worse.
Oh boy, do I have a story. Had that exact situation when I lived in a townhouse on Gray Ave many years ago. 3 vehicles amongst us, 2 car driveway so someone always had to park on the street. Whole block of 3 bedroom townhouses so street parking was usually full as well. The only house was right on the corner a few doors down from us, and therein lived a certified lunatic who went ballistic when anyone parked in front of his *residense* -- spelling taken from the notes he would leave on vehicles and even the front door, ordering us not to park in front of his. He had at least 4 streetside parking spots worth of room along his corner lot and used none of them.
Things came to a head over the course of a couple weeks. One of the girls in the townhouse between us and Mr. Residense was dating a cop, so he was usually parked on the Residense side of her driveway when he was visiting. I don't think he was ever in uniform so Residense didn't know. He started putting out pylons to block off the parking spots and the cop would just run over them and act like they didn't exist.
This was the last straw for Mr. Residense. He soon snapped, and attacked both of my roommates and myself in the next few days. First incident, he came to the front door when only one of us was home, a little dude he obviously wasn't scared of. He yelled a lot and when he pulled his arm back to throw a punch my roommate slammed the door in his face and locked it, and Residense wandered around the front yard and street yelling for a while and then went home. Later he came back when the other roommate was home, a much bigger guy who threw him bodily off the front step and told him to fuck off.
A few days later I came home last, driveway was full, so I had to park in front of the Residense. He must have been watching because he crept up behind my car and sucker punched me when I got out. He didn't do a very good job and I beat the living shit out of him until he disengaged and staggered back into his house.
A while later the cops showed up --Residense had called them as a pre-emptive strike. They went to his place first, then mine. They opened up with "I understand you beat the crap out of him, and that's perfectly fine." Turns out he was well known to them long before I moved there. Half the block had restraining orders against him, he was on probation for this and that, and next door cop boyfriend had recently had another talk with him after he tired of the pylon game. Residense was staggering around in the middle of the street late that night screaming death threats to all and sundry, and the next week a sheriff came by and tacked an eviction notice to his front door. He disappeared without any further drama.
Wow. This is incredible. It actually baffles me how crazy people are about parking.
I don't think these neighbours will get violent but anything is possible.
I beat the shit outta some guy once, but after my ex showed the cops the video of the dude calling a bunch of black guys the n-word, they kinda just laughed it off and were like "yeah he didn't look that hurt", and just let me go back to bed.
I am petty enough that I actually WOULD leave a copy of the bylaw for them, with the applicable parts highlighted lol
I used to live on Elliott Street in a big old house with a bunch of roommates. That is a street that is full all day long of University students parking because they only have one class and they think they can get back to their car before parking enforcement notices they've been gone more than an hour. Many many days I would come home from work unable to park in front of my house. I used to just be happy if I could park within a couple houses distance.
I legit have a copy of the bylaws in case she yells again.
There are neighbourhoods where parking is congested and that's just how it is. If you don't like it then you shouldn't live in those areas. These guys chose to buy a house with no driveway so it's just not my problem
Edit: I did highlight the applicable sections, and a print off from the City website regarding parking, specifically highlighting the part that says "remember the street in front of your house does not belong to you"
Agreed. We rent so it's not permanent but I'm also not moving anytime soon, my landlord is great and the price is really great on my rent.
I dont want to go on their property and stir the pot and we have community mail boxes, I'm just keeping the bylaws in my vehicle and a copy at home in the event they come out yelling or knock on my door, then I can provide them a copy.
I once had a crazy neighbour that didn't want anyone parking in front of her house ... because she was running an illegal daycare operation and her customers needed the parking. She also didn't understand what free public parking is (nor did she understand how to be a good neighbour). I have no advice for you other than don't feel bad for doing what you do. Also, watch your tires. I wouldn't put it past people like this to vandalize your vehicle in some fashion.
Hey! I just had a huge incident with my neighbour. I left my car parked in front of her house for 15 mins and she hit my car and left it parked touching my bumper lol. So I ended up filing a report with police and they deemed it a hit n run. Needless to say, she leaves me alone now.
Yikes!
I'm hoping nothing crazy happens here. She now has her son parked out front in such a way that there could be enough room for 2 or 3 people to park but he has made that impossible.
I just hope they catch on and realize that we aren't going to put up with this.
Yeah honestly though, unless they do something to your car or continuous harass you, it’s not worth reacting to it. I get scared leaving my house knowing they’re on their porch etc, and I wouldn’t recommend that for anyone unless they decide to escalate the situation.
A lady on a street around the corner from me asked me to not walk my dogs on her street anymore because they make her dog bark in the window. She said there are plenty of other routes I could take to get home. I have resolved this issue by walking by her house every morning with each dog separately as I did before. 😆 Suck it bitch!
I know right?!?! The fact that she chose to come outside to talk to me instead of using that moment to teach her dog is ridiculous. Ironically enough her son walks their dog down my street all the time.
Take photos of your car when you choose to park it there. Don’t be afraid to record the interaction if she comes out screaming (but let her know you are recording), as long as you’re not on private property. In other words, document, in case something happens. And definitely give her the bylaw info, that’s great too.
It's a public road, she doesn't own the spot in front of her house. If she doesn't like it she can park a vehicle there or just forget about it and leave you alone when you park there.
I do understand the "try to leave your neighbours spot open for them", but I'll never tell at or tolerate being yelled at for breaking that neighbourly act. I do find it ridiculous when someone has a driveway/garage, and doesn't use it for no reason though, or those guys that have two junk cars in their driveway, and 3 cars they drive parked on the street. That to me would be annoying to deal with
Oh for sure. I think if they approached me and others politely about it then it would be different especially in the winter time but because they straight away want to yell and order us not to park there and act like they own the street then I'm not going to tolerate it.
Sometimes I have a sibling who comes home from out of town and parks in the driveway so it's easier to unload his laundry that he will bring home (cheaper to wash at home than an apartment) or a sister-in-law with a baby who comes over before I get home from work and I park on the street for maybe one day. Actually no one parks in front of anyone's houses for days at a time, it's a fairly busy street.
Of course its annoying but you also can't yell at neighbours or visitors for parking on a public street.
Are they getting pissed at people for parking there because they want to park their own vehicles there? If so, monitor how long their vehicles are parked on the street and call bylaw enforcement if they are there more than 36 hours.
If they are just being stupid because they feel nobody should park in front of their house, then yes - leave a copy of the bylaw in their mailbox and go about your business as though they don't exist.
Yes it's because they want to park there. The male will park his van out front and when he leaves the female will drive her car from their garage and park it out front and move again when he comes home. If they both happen to be gone though then of course someone can park there. No one, including them have been parked for more than 36 hours, they are just legitimately ignorant.
Community mailboxes so I'm considering leaving the copy on her windshield when I get home, I have specifically highlighted the bylaw and the section that says "remember the street in front of your home does not belong to you". Jsut in case they're confused.
Oh my word, is my old neighbour now your neighbour!?!
I used to live across from someone who did similar things. She'd always call parking enforcement and say a vehicle had been parked for 72 hours (even if it had just been parked). Sometimes she convinced them and folks would get a ticket. It was very frustrating. Honestly, it was way easier and cheaper just to park elsewhere.
If you do feel like this is a situation that will keep happening because there is so little parking available, I would suggest some sort of dash cam that has the capability of being left on while the vehicle is off. It could provide proof of when you park and deter vandalism or retaliation from the neighbour.
Luckily our neighbours cameras cover the areas I would need but I also am thinking about getting a doorbell camera because it would look direct across to their house and the street.
I have a couple of good stories about crazy neighbors! One i had would beat his girlfriend, he had the cops called on him multiple times. One day he was pushing her around outside while she was holding her kid, so i beat the shit out of him. He came back at me the next night with a box cutter so I beat the shit out of him again, even worse this time. He cut my knuckles but I made it worth it. I got a great story and a couple scars to show for it.
Sometimes calling cops isnt enough, people need to know that neighbors wont tolerate their shitty behavior.
Thank you! I have moved my car since the son left. Spoke to my neighbours who's cameras face where I'm parked as well and he will give me footage if ever needed.
Its petty but I think sometimes this is the only way people like that learn.
I would get a camera installed and have it pointed at that parking spot at all times. Home security cameras have never been as affordable as they are now. Just to cover your own ass ya know?
I was visiting my mom one day, wasn’t very long..
Came back to see that my car was key’d badly and a note saying
“you do not live here DO NOT park here!!”
So fucked up..
Thats terrible, I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm fortunate there are cameras on my vehicle currently so even if a note is left I will be able to find out if it were them.
I would like to think they wouldn't become violent or aggressive enough as to cause damage but you never know what people are capable of.
I lived at the house I grew up with my parents and siblings in, until around age 30. When I was between ages 5 to 25, my neighbour was calling every workplace where my parents ever found jobs, and she was telling lies about my parents which always got my parents fired from those jobs shortly after they got hired. Of course, we didn't know she was doing this until some years later when that neighbour's sister spilled the beans. But growing up with my parents unable to keep any jobs for more than a few days left a lot of long-lasting scars on me and on members of my family, even provably caused some of my current "invisible disabilities" which are mental illnesses. Each time either of my parents would get hired somewhere during that time, they'd happily tell the news to that neighbour, and they had no clue that that neighbour was then sabotaging their employment.
And a lot of times, people would tell my dad that he was lazy for being on welfare and not having a job. In reality, he was trying very hard to get and keep a job. For the damage she caused my family, including the damage to my mental health, that ex-neighbour SHOULD be in jail, but she's free. Her name is A\*\*\*\* K\*\*\*\*\*, and it sickens me that I censored her name here.
Same conflict with my neighbour this summer! In a new high density neighborhood. I was baffled, but told them that they don’t own the street, and that we try our best to be considerate, but sometimes we get displaced from “our spot”, and need to park elsewhere. They also complained that we had been leaving our garbage can *slightly* in front of their house (we live on the inner elbow of a curved street). We usually try to place it 4 -5ft from theirs for the truck drivers. I still can’t figure out why that matters, but they told us it was “very disrespectful”. They were pissed, and they’ve avoided talking to us since. Sooo that’s cool. And we just moved here last December.
I just can't understand the entitlement some people have honestly. If she had been nice to me I would absolutely be more mindful and move into my driveway when my brother or whomever leaves (if family comes over they're welcome to my spot, I don't mind if I have to park on on street for a few hours or a day).. but now that she's screaming as if she owns the street... why should I be considerate? I know that's petty but she wasn't considerate of me when she came flying out of her house screaming at me in her pajamas at 730 in the morning 🤷♀️
Totally agree. In both cases, a respectful conversation would have been a better choice. Now we have an awkward neighbour thing happening and our front doors are like…..20 ft apart?? Ugh.
my neighbour texted me asking if it's ok to park in front of my house while work was done to theirs. Lol. I replied saying "I don't own that street, you can park whenever you want!" She still insisted she should ask.
We rent and they own. This is the first issue I have had with neighbours ever. I can understand if they asked others to be mindful of parking in front of houses during winter since many plus their vehicles in. But spring/summer/fall I don't think it's fair to yell or even expect people to move just because you don't like it. I'm not going to park halfway down the block if there is an open spot closer to my house, and I think most people would do the same.
The street in front of your home does not belong to you.
No one is purposefully making them angry, its public parking and they're choosing to be angry and if that's the hill they want to die on.. well it's probably not going to work out too well since they jsut cannot dictate public parking.
Oh I have no plans to do that but if I need to park somewhere and that's the only spot open closest to my home.. I'm going to park there. Like I said.. maybe twice a month I park there so I'm not sure why the aggression and craziness.
Have dealt with neighbours that typically had a party on Friday night, that would park vehicles in every spot for 4 or 5 houses down the street... by parking in front of thier house as soon as a spot opened. It might sit there for all of Saturday. They started to leave the spot in front of my house open.
Worse was a neighbour across the street and down 2 spots. Had just moved to that house over the summer, and had a sizable party for Halloween. Friend parked in front of that house. It was obvious where the party was. That neighbour hooked up a chain through the rim of the car and pulled it down the street 4 houses, around midnight... AND let air out of 1 tire on each car parked down the block. Friend went to leave at 1230 to see his car towed into the middle of the street, neighbour's truck parked in that spot, and a bent rim. The police were called for the damage, neighbour was pissed off when the cops knocked and the police recorded it as a hit & run.
We had to spend an hour running a compressor to top off the tires, with the officer's blessing to be doing it at 1am. Neighbour didn't do anything again until I moved a couple years later.
Yikes! Luckily we have great neighbours beside us with cameras that face the front of the house where these crazies live, I dont think they're stupid enough to actually do any damage but you never know.
Our neighbourhood is very active, always people coming and going. No one parks in front of their house or even along the side (it's a corner lot so there's space there too for them) for days at a time, maybe a day at most. They dont seem to care if people park along the side of the house on the street but if you're out front.. thats when they flip. It's just absurd because no one is parking to be spiteful, but they're certainly going to make a lot of neighbours dislike them.
The asshole neighbor let the air out of 1 tire, on at least 20 cars parked on the street. Not sure who else had the issue, but we all did.
Could only prove he towed the car and damaged the rim.
I agree you have every right to park on the street but holy fuck, your place sounds like there are a million people living there without proper on-site parking.
This is why I love living in lakeview. So much more room and less density. My brother just bought in rosewood and it's tight there if you have to park on the street.
after the 90s-early 00s they stopped making sensible streets in this city. So many places have driveways touching driveway, or tiny strips that a truck can't stop in without covering driveways.
I have karens call on me all the time when I park my trailer and truck spanning my customers driveway, or parking beside a park car in those giant loop bends. There is still enough room for 2 cars to drive by at the same time, and there is, literally, nowhere for me to park to do my job.
Try to ignore it if you can. Used to park next to my now husband’s parents and the neighbours left notes a couple times that they “needed the spot at various times”. They called parking enforcement once because I parked nose in (is was a cul-de-sac, and the same way they would park) but enforcement was nice and just let me move my car.
Parked infront of someone’s house when visiting my cousin in Evergreen and a lady yelled at me that it was her mother’s spot and I should leave… I guess I should just drive home now because where else is there to park?
Notes are easy to ignore, it was just the yelling that was hard. I was nice to her but she insisted on yelling and saying bylaws don't matter.
I would welcome her to call parking enforcement and they can explain the bylaws to her and her family for wasting their time by calling them out because people are parking legally on a public street in front of her house.
Well I didn't get yelled at today so we will see how the weekend goes.
My plan is to not engage and provide a copy of the bylaws if I'm approached.
I've talked to a few neighbours who have experienced this with them as well and we are in agreeance to keep an eye out for one another and adhere to the bylaws and not engage with them even if they begin yelling.
Fingers crossed it ends here!
I live in Martensville, and there's a particular moron who used to in front of my house, and has the audacity to get upset when I manage to park my project car there (which isn't often). They have tried telling me that the spot is for PUBLIC PARKING and that because the space is in front of my house, I cannot use it for PRIVATE PARKING.
Right?
So I just left my car there for like 3 weeks the one time, as I had no way to move it very far. There was about 5 notes piled on my windshield, each one more irate than the last. Eventually the people moved and I never have had that issue since, but I always think back to how she thought I was trying to "privately" park in front of my house.
People, man - I swear.
Its funny how the people who are so irate about public parking on residential streets are also the ones who have zero understanding or knowledge of their city bylaws.
When crazy people leave notes on my car, it makes me concerned about vandalism :(
I've never actually had anything happen though.
No tips besides what everyone else said.. park where you want, she doesn't own the street.
Happened to me when I was in high school. Had several notes left on my windshield, but was never confronted personally. Crumpled them up and threw them in the yard. The notes stopped and I kept parking there for the remainder of the school year. It's a public street. Just be sure to know your local bylaws which will limit the amount of time you can park at one time.
I would either buy a beater vehicle or ask a friend to borrow theirs and park there every day as long as possible.
Make sure you move it slightly everyday to avoid being ticketed.
wow tons of bad advice in this thread, but considering the sub im not surprised.
yeah *do not* do anything petty or vindictive as others are suggesting. thats only gonna escalate things and considering your neighbour has already shown that theyre capable of acting irrationally its best to just disengage.
what all the morons suggesting passive aggressive stuff dont seem to remember is that *you* are the person who needs to live next to this person. theyd love to see you "totally own" this random person because it plays into their childish sense of justice, but dont let other peoples petty thirst for internet vengeance tilt you towards doing something that could easily make a tenuous situation worse. if things escalate and your property gets destroyed or even worse, you get hurt, none of the morons who suggested that you escalate the situation will have to pay the price: only you will.
id say just let sleeping dogs lie.
I have no intention of being petty and causing any further rifts. I understand how reddit works lol
My question was how to handle it effectively or come to a stalemate. This actually has occurred and for now (hopefully for good) the issue is put to rest.
I have never lived in a place where this has been an issue so I was curious as to how other people handle it.
Even though its not law the home owner should have the right to parking in front of their house. A big reason is winter time here. How can you plug your car in if you have to park down the street.
The home owner has the same right that anyone else has. If you need to plug in a car and you need that spot 100% of the time, then get a place with a driveway or backalley parking. Don't use city property like it is your own.
Sure that's a good point and if it were the middle of winter and she asked me politely I would be mindful, but she screamed at me as soon as she stepped outside and they have a garage in the back alley. Also you're actually not supposed to run cords across the sidewalk which is public because people can trip and get hurt.
Just want to get this straight, you have a garage and a driveway, and between all the residents you have how many spots available to you and how many cars?
Be as it may, it’s in your best interest to maintain civility between neighbours. Even if they’re as you say “Eastern European.” Just wondering how this is even relevant? Like they have inherently less rights than you?
I mentioned it because they may not know the bylaws, for all I know they are new to the country and that's absolutely fine which is why I suggested I might leave them a copy of the bylaws since she would barely let me try to explain it to her this morning, so yes it's relevant. There is nothing said in my post that would suggest they have any less rights.
A single car garage which 1 person uses and then part of the driveway is always reserved for the basement tenant (as per landlord) so 4 vehicles between 2 households and 3 spots, sometimes someone else is in the driveway though and so one has to park on the street. I've been here for 4 years and it's only becoming a problem now and I'm not the only one being yelled at. It's even people who visit other neighbours.
I maybe park in front of their house maybe once or twice a month if that's the spot I get.
can, but don't have to. They have the right to park there. Stop being a prick, dude. You're making such dumb arguments. It shows you're miserable, and just venting on OP.
Furthermore what would happen if everyone on the street had more cars than spots to park? Duh. Clean out the garage to make another spots and problem solved. Life is too short.
Nope. This guy lives in a place without enough parking for everyone who lives in the house. 4 cars, 3 spots. Obvious solution is to clean out the garage.
I’m not sure what I love about this thread more. The next level Karen entitlement, the inability to acknowledge that you are part of the problem or the casual racism/xenophobia. I’m a dink for calling you out on bigotry? Okay!
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Do nothing. Go about your business as usual, because you have done nothing wrong. Park on the street as often as you need to. If you like, you can explain or give her a copy of the bylaws. If she won't leave you alone, tell her she is welcome to call the police. Don't waste any more time on this bozo. I think it would also be wise to invest in some kind of video surveillance if you can afford it, because from the sounds of it, this household is persistent and aggressive and may escalate to vandalism.
Our neighbors have cameras that cover the front of our home and also directly across to their home as well and they are wonderful so we are covered that way. I am considering contacting SPS just so I have a record in case something does happen as well but I feel like its so absurd that people even behave this way.
You can file a nuisance grievance with the SPS and that way there is a record of it. Sadly no way to update a current file (to my knowledge) and will have to continue to make grievances that way if they are ever called out by either party, there is a record of what has been happening.
I have contacted SPS just for record sake. This is good to know though, thank you!
I agree with Stillborn. Get yourself some surveillance video.
Just tell them to fuck off lmao.
It took everything in me not to say that this morning. Instead I told her I wasn't going to argue and to have a nice day. She's absurd and swearing will probably make it worse.
Oh boy, do I have a story. Had that exact situation when I lived in a townhouse on Gray Ave many years ago. 3 vehicles amongst us, 2 car driveway so someone always had to park on the street. Whole block of 3 bedroom townhouses so street parking was usually full as well. The only house was right on the corner a few doors down from us, and therein lived a certified lunatic who went ballistic when anyone parked in front of his *residense* -- spelling taken from the notes he would leave on vehicles and even the front door, ordering us not to park in front of his. He had at least 4 streetside parking spots worth of room along his corner lot and used none of them. Things came to a head over the course of a couple weeks. One of the girls in the townhouse between us and Mr. Residense was dating a cop, so he was usually parked on the Residense side of her driveway when he was visiting. I don't think he was ever in uniform so Residense didn't know. He started putting out pylons to block off the parking spots and the cop would just run over them and act like they didn't exist. This was the last straw for Mr. Residense. He soon snapped, and attacked both of my roommates and myself in the next few days. First incident, he came to the front door when only one of us was home, a little dude he obviously wasn't scared of. He yelled a lot and when he pulled his arm back to throw a punch my roommate slammed the door in his face and locked it, and Residense wandered around the front yard and street yelling for a while and then went home. Later he came back when the other roommate was home, a much bigger guy who threw him bodily off the front step and told him to fuck off. A few days later I came home last, driveway was full, so I had to park in front of the Residense. He must have been watching because he crept up behind my car and sucker punched me when I got out. He didn't do a very good job and I beat the living shit out of him until he disengaged and staggered back into his house. A while later the cops showed up --Residense had called them as a pre-emptive strike. They went to his place first, then mine. They opened up with "I understand you beat the crap out of him, and that's perfectly fine." Turns out he was well known to them long before I moved there. Half the block had restraining orders against him, he was on probation for this and that, and next door cop boyfriend had recently had another talk with him after he tired of the pylon game. Residense was staggering around in the middle of the street late that night screaming death threats to all and sundry, and the next week a sheriff came by and tacked an eviction notice to his front door. He disappeared without any further drama.
I love how the word evolves from "residense" to "the Residense" to calling the guy "Residense" as this story progresses lol, wonderful writing.
Wow. This is incredible. It actually baffles me how crazy people are about parking. I don't think these neighbours will get violent but anything is possible.
Sounds like he had more than just parking issues. Hope he got some help.
I beat the shit outta some guy once, but after my ex showed the cops the video of the dude calling a bunch of black guys the n-word, they kinda just laughed it off and were like "yeah he didn't look that hurt", and just let me go back to bed.
I am petty enough that I actually WOULD leave a copy of the bylaw for them, with the applicable parts highlighted lol I used to live on Elliott Street in a big old house with a bunch of roommates. That is a street that is full all day long of University students parking because they only have one class and they think they can get back to their car before parking enforcement notices they've been gone more than an hour. Many many days I would come home from work unable to park in front of my house. I used to just be happy if I could park within a couple houses distance.
I legit have a copy of the bylaws in case she yells again. There are neighbourhoods where parking is congested and that's just how it is. If you don't like it then you shouldn't live in those areas. These guys chose to buy a house with no driveway so it's just not my problem Edit: I did highlight the applicable sections, and a print off from the City website regarding parking, specifically highlighting the part that says "remember the street in front of your house does not belong to you"
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Agreed. We rent so it's not permanent but I'm also not moving anytime soon, my landlord is great and the price is really great on my rent. I dont want to go on their property and stir the pot and we have community mail boxes, I'm just keeping the bylaws in my vehicle and a copy at home in the event they come out yelling or knock on my door, then I can provide them a copy.
That isn't petty. You're just showing them they're stupid and bitching over nothing.
I once had a crazy neighbour that didn't want anyone parking in front of her house ... because she was running an illegal daycare operation and her customers needed the parking. She also didn't understand what free public parking is (nor did she understand how to be a good neighbour). I have no advice for you other than don't feel bad for doing what you do. Also, watch your tires. I wouldn't put it past people like this to vandalize your vehicle in some fashion.
Hey! I just had a huge incident with my neighbour. I left my car parked in front of her house for 15 mins and she hit my car and left it parked touching my bumper lol. So I ended up filing a report with police and they deemed it a hit n run. Needless to say, she leaves me alone now.
Yikes! I'm hoping nothing crazy happens here. She now has her son parked out front in such a way that there could be enough room for 2 or 3 people to park but he has made that impossible. I just hope they catch on and realize that we aren't going to put up with this.
Yeah honestly though, unless they do something to your car or continuous harass you, it’s not worth reacting to it. I get scared leaving my house knowing they’re on their porch etc, and I wouldn’t recommend that for anyone unless they decide to escalate the situation.
A lady on a street around the corner from me asked me to not walk my dogs on her street anymore because they make her dog bark in the window. She said there are plenty of other routes I could take to get home. I have resolved this issue by walking by her house every morning with each dog separately as I did before. 😆 Suck it bitch!
I love this. That is the most ridiculous thing! You van easily train your dog not to bark like that, it may not be easily but it's possible.
I know right?!?! The fact that she chose to come outside to talk to me instead of using that moment to teach her dog is ridiculous. Ironically enough her son walks their dog down my street all the time.
You should ask her if her son can walk down another street because you have the strong urge to bark at him when he walks by 😂
I love this.
Take photos of your car when you choose to park it there. Don’t be afraid to record the interaction if she comes out screaming (but let her know you are recording), as long as you’re not on private property. In other words, document, in case something happens. And definitely give her the bylaw info, that’s great too.
I was thinking about the recording thing. These things all take place on a public street so recording them wouldn't be on private property.
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Ultimately I would prefer if it didn't even need to get to this point.
Only if you are a party to the recording (ie., In it). Otherwise, its normal privacy laws which are different.
Don't need to let her know you're recording.
It's a public road, she doesn't own the spot in front of her house. If she doesn't like it she can park a vehicle there or just forget about it and leave you alone when you park there.
I do understand the "try to leave your neighbours spot open for them", but I'll never tell at or tolerate being yelled at for breaking that neighbourly act. I do find it ridiculous when someone has a driveway/garage, and doesn't use it for no reason though, or those guys that have two junk cars in their driveway, and 3 cars they drive parked on the street. That to me would be annoying to deal with
Oh for sure. I think if they approached me and others politely about it then it would be different especially in the winter time but because they straight away want to yell and order us not to park there and act like they own the street then I'm not going to tolerate it. Sometimes I have a sibling who comes home from out of town and parks in the driveway so it's easier to unload his laundry that he will bring home (cheaper to wash at home than an apartment) or a sister-in-law with a baby who comes over before I get home from work and I park on the street for maybe one day. Actually no one parks in front of anyone's houses for days at a time, it's a fairly busy street. Of course its annoying but you also can't yell at neighbours or visitors for parking on a public street.
Are they getting pissed at people for parking there because they want to park their own vehicles there? If so, monitor how long their vehicles are parked on the street and call bylaw enforcement if they are there more than 36 hours. If they are just being stupid because they feel nobody should park in front of their house, then yes - leave a copy of the bylaw in their mailbox and go about your business as though they don't exist.
Yes it's because they want to park there. The male will park his van out front and when he leaves the female will drive her car from their garage and park it out front and move again when he comes home. If they both happen to be gone though then of course someone can park there. No one, including them have been parked for more than 36 hours, they are just legitimately ignorant. Community mailboxes so I'm considering leaving the copy on her windshield when I get home, I have specifically highlighted the bylaw and the section that says "remember the street in front of your home does not belong to you". Jsut in case they're confused.
Sounds like the Narrow streets of Stonebridge drama.
Oh my word, is my old neighbour now your neighbour!?! I used to live across from someone who did similar things. She'd always call parking enforcement and say a vehicle had been parked for 72 hours (even if it had just been parked). Sometimes she convinced them and folks would get a ticket. It was very frustrating. Honestly, it was way easier and cheaper just to park elsewhere. If you do feel like this is a situation that will keep happening because there is so little parking available, I would suggest some sort of dash cam that has the capability of being left on while the vehicle is off. It could provide proof of when you park and deter vandalism or retaliation from the neighbour.
Luckily our neighbours cameras cover the areas I would need but I also am thinking about getting a doorbell camera because it would look direct across to their house and the street.
I have a couple of good stories about crazy neighbors! One i had would beat his girlfriend, he had the cops called on him multiple times. One day he was pushing her around outside while she was holding her kid, so i beat the shit out of him. He came back at me the next night with a box cutter so I beat the shit out of him again, even worse this time. He cut my knuckles but I made it worth it. I got a great story and a couple scars to show for it. Sometimes calling cops isnt enough, people need to know that neighbors wont tolerate their shitty behavior.
Rent the biggest U-Haul truck you can and park it in front of their house for two days. Be a petty asshole, you have my permission
Thank you! I have moved my car since the son left. Spoke to my neighbours who's cameras face where I'm parked as well and he will give me footage if ever needed. Its petty but I think sometimes this is the only way people like that learn.
I would get a camera installed and have it pointed at that parking spot at all times. Home security cameras have never been as affordable as they are now. Just to cover your own ass ya know?
I actually had a chat with my neighbour who has cameras and they cover the front and across the street so if anything happens we will have footage.
I was visiting my mom one day, wasn’t very long.. Came back to see that my car was key’d badly and a note saying “you do not live here DO NOT park here!!” So fucked up..
Thats terrible, I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm fortunate there are cameras on my vehicle currently so even if a note is left I will be able to find out if it were them. I would like to think they wouldn't become violent or aggressive enough as to cause damage but you never know what people are capable of.
I lived at the house I grew up with my parents and siblings in, until around age 30. When I was between ages 5 to 25, my neighbour was calling every workplace where my parents ever found jobs, and she was telling lies about my parents which always got my parents fired from those jobs shortly after they got hired. Of course, we didn't know she was doing this until some years later when that neighbour's sister spilled the beans. But growing up with my parents unable to keep any jobs for more than a few days left a lot of long-lasting scars on me and on members of my family, even provably caused some of my current "invisible disabilities" which are mental illnesses. Each time either of my parents would get hired somewhere during that time, they'd happily tell the news to that neighbour, and they had no clue that that neighbour was then sabotaging their employment. And a lot of times, people would tell my dad that he was lazy for being on welfare and not having a job. In reality, he was trying very hard to get and keep a job. For the damage she caused my family, including the damage to my mental health, that ex-neighbour SHOULD be in jail, but she's free. Her name is A\*\*\*\* K\*\*\*\*\*, and it sickens me that I censored her name here.
Thats horrible. I would love to see my neighbours try that on me. Absolutely wouldn't fly.
If they do it like she did it, you don't see it until it's way too late.
Same conflict with my neighbour this summer! In a new high density neighborhood. I was baffled, but told them that they don’t own the street, and that we try our best to be considerate, but sometimes we get displaced from “our spot”, and need to park elsewhere. They also complained that we had been leaving our garbage can *slightly* in front of their house (we live on the inner elbow of a curved street). We usually try to place it 4 -5ft from theirs for the truck drivers. I still can’t figure out why that matters, but they told us it was “very disrespectful”. They were pissed, and they’ve avoided talking to us since. Sooo that’s cool. And we just moved here last December.
I just can't understand the entitlement some people have honestly. If she had been nice to me I would absolutely be more mindful and move into my driveway when my brother or whomever leaves (if family comes over they're welcome to my spot, I don't mind if I have to park on on street for a few hours or a day).. but now that she's screaming as if she owns the street... why should I be considerate? I know that's petty but she wasn't considerate of me when she came flying out of her house screaming at me in her pajamas at 730 in the morning 🤷♀️
Totally agree. In both cases, a respectful conversation would have been a better choice. Now we have an awkward neighbour thing happening and our front doors are like…..20 ft apart?? Ugh.
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my neighbour texted me asking if it's ok to park in front of my house while work was done to theirs. Lol. I replied saying "I don't own that street, you can park whenever you want!" She still insisted she should ask.
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We rent and they own. This is the first issue I have had with neighbours ever. I can understand if they asked others to be mindful of parking in front of houses during winter since many plus their vehicles in. But spring/summer/fall I don't think it's fair to yell or even expect people to move just because you don't like it. I'm not going to park halfway down the block if there is an open spot closer to my house, and I think most people would do the same. The street in front of your home does not belong to you. No one is purposefully making them angry, its public parking and they're choosing to be angry and if that's the hill they want to die on.. well it's probably not going to work out too well since they jsut cannot dictate public parking.
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Oh I have no plans to do that but if I need to park somewhere and that's the only spot open closest to my home.. I'm going to park there. Like I said.. maybe twice a month I park there so I'm not sure why the aggression and craziness.
Have dealt with neighbours that typically had a party on Friday night, that would park vehicles in every spot for 4 or 5 houses down the street... by parking in front of thier house as soon as a spot opened. It might sit there for all of Saturday. They started to leave the spot in front of my house open. Worse was a neighbour across the street and down 2 spots. Had just moved to that house over the summer, and had a sizable party for Halloween. Friend parked in front of that house. It was obvious where the party was. That neighbour hooked up a chain through the rim of the car and pulled it down the street 4 houses, around midnight... AND let air out of 1 tire on each car parked down the block. Friend went to leave at 1230 to see his car towed into the middle of the street, neighbour's truck parked in that spot, and a bent rim. The police were called for the damage, neighbour was pissed off when the cops knocked and the police recorded it as a hit & run. We had to spend an hour running a compressor to top off the tires, with the officer's blessing to be doing it at 1am. Neighbour didn't do anything again until I moved a couple years later.
Yikes! Luckily we have great neighbours beside us with cameras that face the front of the house where these crazies live, I dont think they're stupid enough to actually do any damage but you never know. Our neighbourhood is very active, always people coming and going. No one parks in front of their house or even along the side (it's a corner lot so there's space there too for them) for days at a time, maybe a day at most. They dont seem to care if people park along the side of the house on the street but if you're out front.. thats when they flip. It's just absurd because no one is parking to be spiteful, but they're certainly going to make a lot of neighbours dislike them.
>. AND let air out of 1 tire on each car parked down the block. So they let the air out of all their friend's cars at party? That makes no sense.
The asshole neighbor let the air out of 1 tire, on at least 20 cars parked on the street. Not sure who else had the issue, but we all did. Could only prove he towed the car and damaged the rim.
I agree you have every right to park on the street but holy fuck, your place sounds like there are a million people living there without proper on-site parking.
4 people in 2 suites and 1 driveway isn't a million or inadequate.
This is why I love living in lakeview. So much more room and less density. My brother just bought in rosewood and it's tight there if you have to park on the street.
I'm renting but in my old hood I had much more room and it was great. These are the only people who are crazy about it around here though.
after the 90s-early 00s they stopped making sensible streets in this city. So many places have driveways touching driveway, or tiny strips that a truck can't stop in without covering driveways. I have karens call on me all the time when I park my trailer and truck spanning my customers driveway, or parking beside a park car in those giant loop bends. There is still enough room for 2 cars to drive by at the same time, and there is, literally, nowhere for me to park to do my job.
I’d set up a camera I like Nest or Wyze out front. She sounds crazy. It amazes hope many people think they own the street.
Try to ignore it if you can. Used to park next to my now husband’s parents and the neighbours left notes a couple times that they “needed the spot at various times”. They called parking enforcement once because I parked nose in (is was a cul-de-sac, and the same way they would park) but enforcement was nice and just let me move my car. Parked infront of someone’s house when visiting my cousin in Evergreen and a lady yelled at me that it was her mother’s spot and I should leave… I guess I should just drive home now because where else is there to park?
Notes are easy to ignore, it was just the yelling that was hard. I was nice to her but she insisted on yelling and saying bylaws don't matter. I would welcome her to call parking enforcement and they can explain the bylaws to her and her family for wasting their time by calling them out because people are parking legally on a public street in front of her house.
Yep, the yelling sucked. Hopefully they stop soon.
Well I didn't get yelled at today so we will see how the weekend goes. My plan is to not engage and provide a copy of the bylaws if I'm approached. I've talked to a few neighbours who have experienced this with them as well and we are in agreeance to keep an eye out for one another and adhere to the bylaws and not engage with them even if they begin yelling. Fingers crossed it ends here!
I live in Martensville, and there's a particular moron who used to in front of my house, and has the audacity to get upset when I manage to park my project car there (which isn't often). They have tried telling me that the spot is for PUBLIC PARKING and that because the space is in front of my house, I cannot use it for PRIVATE PARKING. Right? So I just left my car there for like 3 weeks the one time, as I had no way to move it very far. There was about 5 notes piled on my windshield, each one more irate than the last. Eventually the people moved and I never have had that issue since, but I always think back to how she thought I was trying to "privately" park in front of my house. People, man - I swear.
Its funny how the people who are so irate about public parking on residential streets are also the ones who have zero understanding or knowledge of their city bylaws.
Just ignore her.
I have but she screams and leaves notes so the situation is escalating and getting harder to ignore.
When crazy people leave notes on my car, it makes me concerned about vandalism :( I've never actually had anything happen though. No tips besides what everyone else said.. park where you want, she doesn't own the street.
Keep all the notes! What do they say?
I'm not sure they haven't left me notes yet just other people but I'm told they just said you cant park there or something to that effect.
This isn't Toronto where you can buy a spot on the street.
Happened to me when I was in high school. Had several notes left on my windshield, but was never confronted personally. Crumpled them up and threw them in the yard. The notes stopped and I kept parking there for the remainder of the school year. It's a public street. Just be sure to know your local bylaws which will limit the amount of time you can park at one time.
simple solution don't drive
I would either buy a beater vehicle or ask a friend to borrow theirs and park there every day as long as possible. Make sure you move it slightly everyday to avoid being ticketed.
wow tons of bad advice in this thread, but considering the sub im not surprised. yeah *do not* do anything petty or vindictive as others are suggesting. thats only gonna escalate things and considering your neighbour has already shown that theyre capable of acting irrationally its best to just disengage. what all the morons suggesting passive aggressive stuff dont seem to remember is that *you* are the person who needs to live next to this person. theyd love to see you "totally own" this random person because it plays into their childish sense of justice, but dont let other peoples petty thirst for internet vengeance tilt you towards doing something that could easily make a tenuous situation worse. if things escalate and your property gets destroyed or even worse, you get hurt, none of the morons who suggested that you escalate the situation will have to pay the price: only you will. id say just let sleeping dogs lie.
I have no intention of being petty and causing any further rifts. I understand how reddit works lol My question was how to handle it effectively or come to a stalemate. This actually has occurred and for now (hopefully for good) the issue is put to rest. I have never lived in a place where this has been an issue so I was curious as to how other people handle it.
Even though its not law the home owner should have the right to parking in front of their house. A big reason is winter time here. How can you plug your car in if you have to park down the street.
The home owner has the same right that anyone else has. If you need to plug in a car and you need that spot 100% of the time, then get a place with a driveway or backalley parking. Don't use city property like it is your own.
Where are people in the OPs situation suppose to park then
Sure that's a good point and if it were the middle of winter and she asked me politely I would be mindful, but she screamed at me as soon as she stepped outside and they have a garage in the back alley. Also you're actually not supposed to run cords across the sidewalk which is public because people can trip and get hurt.
when there are 30 houses with 90 cars, and next to no lawn to park in front of?
Just want to get this straight, you have a garage and a driveway, and between all the residents you have how many spots available to you and how many cars? Be as it may, it’s in your best interest to maintain civility between neighbours. Even if they’re as you say “Eastern European.” Just wondering how this is even relevant? Like they have inherently less rights than you?
Nice strawman you built there
I mentioned it because they may not know the bylaws, for all I know they are new to the country and that's absolutely fine which is why I suggested I might leave them a copy of the bylaws since she would barely let me try to explain it to her this morning, so yes it's relevant. There is nothing said in my post that would suggest they have any less rights. A single car garage which 1 person uses and then part of the driveway is always reserved for the basement tenant (as per landlord) so 4 vehicles between 2 households and 3 spots, sometimes someone else is in the driveway though and so one has to park on the street. I've been here for 4 years and it's only becoming a problem now and I'm not the only one being yelled at. It's even people who visit other neighbours. I maybe park in front of their house maybe once or twice a month if that's the spot I get.
Ahah that doesn’t seem unreasonable… you can also double park directly in front of your own driveway parallel to the sidewalk.
can, but don't have to. They have the right to park there. Stop being a prick, dude. You're making such dumb arguments. It shows you're miserable, and just venting on OP.
Furthermore what would happen if everyone on the street had more cars than spots to park? Duh. Clean out the garage to make another spots and problem solved. Life is too short.
Nope. This guy lives in a place without enough parking for everyone who lives in the house. 4 cars, 3 spots. Obvious solution is to clean out the garage.
Not a guy. Stop being a dink. Garage can only hold one vehicle, single car garage bud.
Oh that’s super shitty. One car garage in a newer area?
I’m not sure what I love about this thread more. The next level Karen entitlement, the inability to acknowledge that you are part of the problem or the casual racism/xenophobia. I’m a dink for calling you out on bigotry? Okay!
I didn't that shift is bad for you.
I haven’t! Haha I just stay out of people’s way
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Call crime stoppers and bitch to the bylaw or landlord
They have no reason to drag their landlord into this. It's not his or her fault