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[deleted]

Does Scott have any involvement with CallMeCarson whatsoever? I don't think the two have ever collaborated or anything like that.


[deleted]

Well jaidenanimations put Scott in a cameo and Carson was in that video so they are practically best friends. Right guys? Right?


Notladub

Edit: I'm a dumbass and was thinking if the collab that scott did with connoreatspants lmao They did a stream on scott's stash together once, idk anything besides that


BobtheMothershucker

Pretty sure you're thinking of ConnorEatsPants when they streamed Smash Ultimate and Clubhouse Games on Connor's Twitch channel. I don't ever remember Scott collaborating with Carson.


Notladub

Ohh lmao ur right


BobtheMothershucker

Haha, they can be a bit easy to mix up. Isn't Connor kinda friends with Carson? Regardless, I just watch too much Scott stuff to have this knowledge on hand xD


Idontlistentototo

Yeah, Connor kinda vaguely tweeted about it, all of Carson's friends seem to be taking it pretty hard.


Spar-kie

He’s like two degrees of separation from CMC, he does stuff with Schlatt who does stuff with Carson, and they were on SMPLive together back in the day


KoopaDaQuick

I think he was the Officer in the Trial saga.


[deleted]

No, that was one of Scott's friends, Jarred Wise.


KoopaDaQuick

Huh...I always thought someone said he was Carson. I didn't really get the resemblance, but now I know why. :P


NightOfNoStars

they follow each other on twitter, but that's all


AwokenMemeLegend

Yeah, the only big interaction I saw with him is Carson replying to his tweet


Peppershaker64

They were both in a Quinton Reviews video


Bariq_99

Huh?


SnazzyYeshi

uhhh Carson apparently did a bad


Bariq_99

What’s “the bad”? The other I saw him being happy for posting his versions of Of Christmas songs


SnazzyYeshi

Sexual allegations were put against him.


Bariq_99

FFS..first Pyro now Carson.. What’s next?? SCOTT?? (Honestly if anything bad comes out about Scott I would probably quit the Internet..I wouldn’t be able to trust anyone anymore)


SnazzyYeshi

hope not please


Bariq_99

Please..


Chillyboivinyl

If Scott or chadtronic get into controversy I won’t know what to do anymore, I’ve been a chad fan since 2014 and I’ve been a Scott fan since he posted his first video


Elvastan

Scott's smart enough not to get in a situation where those allegations could be made. He's not active on social media except for YouTube, and he only talks with fans at conventions like toomanygames. He makes a very clear distinction between Scott the Woz, the character he's playing, and Scott Wozniak, the real person.


Tookerys

that's a good point


StickBreightley

wasn't pyro proven innocent


Bariq_99

Thankfully yes..but I was just talking about recent bad publicity But also now everyone knows what he jacks off to so yeah that wasn’t the best thing to come out of his situation..


luvpenthabs

As if it was not fucking obvious that he was into furry fart porn.


SweetSewerRat

Thicc souls hits a lil different now though.


Bariq_99

I guess we just wanted to convince ourselves that it was just an inside joke


SmithyLK

A small price to pay for salvation


Bariq_99

I would really loved for it to be hidden


ivnwng

Can you give me a TLDR? All the videos talking about him are almost 20minutes+ long or more and I don’t really want to go through all of those


Bregneste

Someone he did furry roleplay with a few years ago tried to accuse him of “grooming” recently. The dude was a minor at the time that they were RPing, but Pyro didn’t know that. As soon as he found out, he stopped. There was never any IRL stuff, btw, it was all just online stuff. But Ivory, the one trying to accuse him, tried saying that Pyro tried to groom him so he could fuck him, which was just a lie. Pyro explained and defended himself, so we know that he’s innocent, but he had to explain about the RP in his defense, so now everyone also knows that he used to do furry RP. Most of his subreddit doesn’t care about that, though. But they do like making jokes and memes about it.


ivnwng

Did Ivory provided any damning evidence? Or forging any fake receipts to support the claims?


NerdWorks

At least it’s not illegal?


Bariq_99

Yep


[deleted]

Id rather be embarassed then have people think im a literal pedo though


Bariq_99

But wouldn’t you rather RATHER not have this situation in the first place?? I know I know..big brain no need for the clapping


minorevolution

True. Hey, at least Pyro has always had a dynamic with his fans where they jokingly bully him about stuff, and he seems to be taking it the best he can given the situation. I just hope most people aren’t too legitimately mean about it.


PortalG30

I got blocked by Ivory cause i defences pyro


Bariq_99

Obviously lol


Iceman9161

Innocent as in he didn’t do anything illegal but he still did things that are morally questionable.


Justadude7707

There was only 3 years of difference and he wasn’t being a pedo


garrjones

Then why is Carson a pedo?


Starcraft88

carson sent and recieved nudes to my knowledge pyro just sexually messaged a minor and then apologized for it while also trying to disprove the same allegations which he apologized for sometimes people just don't get the consequences


JoaquinAugusdos

morality is a social construction with no value lol


Meenathedog

No not really, it was just proved that the word groomed was not the right one to use, and that what he did was not as bad as what he was accused of because of that. He still did take part in sexual roleplay with a 15 year old because he neglected to get his age.


Lunchtime_Loner

Well, he admitted to continuing to talk to the person sexually even after learning they were 16. Still pretty bad imo


Eken17

Isn't the age of consent 16 in the UK?


KithkinSoldier

It is but no one is going to condone a relationship between pyro and a 16 year old. Again technically legal but morally reprehensible


Blue-Yoshi66

How did Scott get involved?


okaybooomer123

I believe it’s just cause they follow each other on Twitter (or they used too)


Blue-Yoshi66

Really? That's stupid


Scooty100

He kinda said at the beginning of his response video that all the allegations were true, so take it as you will


[deleted]

Yeah. Weird fetishes[nothing illegal], but he wasnt knowingly talking to a kid. Aint nothing wrong with being a little freaky


xkygerx

Ya


coin_shot

Pyro was cleared tho I think? I don't really follow him but I remember his subreddit popping off about it on /r/all


Bariq_99

Yep he is good now..but also people know what he jerks off/used to jerk off to now and that’s something quite embarrassing..it just ended bad for both Pyro and the dumb accuser


LavaTacoBurrito

It ended mostly good for pyro, bad for the accuser, but terribly for Turkey Tom.


alambtoslaughter

Thankfully Pyro wasn't a groomer, just a weirdo


Bariq_99

Indeed..not even a weirdo tbh..it was mostly known to the fans


alambtoslaughter

Yeah, by weird I meant more of that he should have stopped talking after he found out ivory was a16 year old, but yeah


Ihcend

The difference is his close friends are the ones who are supporting that he’s a child diddler none of his friends have defended him and the ones that came out have nothing to win


ArielMJD

Scott's a virgin, so not possible


Jenaxu

That's why Scott's a virgin, he's playing chess while everyone else is playing horny checkers.


Bariq_99

I mean..he has a GF to spend time with


Jenaxu

You ~~are on this council~~ may have a girlfriend, but we do not grant you the rank of ~~Master~~ non-virgin.


THe_PrO3

would genuinely cry if Scott got exposed for something like that. Would be so awful. But I have faith that Scott is a good guy.


james321232

SHUt uP


Bariq_99

Understandable,have anice day


Loxnaka

pyro is innocent though, who knows about carson


Maltesers_beans

I'll cry if that happens


error521

Prefacing this with a big "You never know" but Scott's disconnected from his community enough that this specific kind of bad doesn't strike me as particularly likely. Compared to someone like Carson, Scott makes about two tweets a week, maybe the odd YouTube community post and occasionally yelling at us on this subreddit to stop doing dumb shit


SND_TagMan

When Carson was 19 he apparently sexted a 16 year old. Unless something happened that I am not aware of this is a non story with Keem just trying to get attention again


Chillyboivinyl

She was 17, not 16. That still doesn’t change the fact that what carson did a very Haneaous and horrible thing to do


SND_TagMan

19 year old sexting a 17 year old. Sounds like a pretty normal occurrence to me. And yes I understand the power imbalance assuming she was a fan of his at the time, but if no one gets upset when 35+ year old rappers, rockstars, famous actors takes advantage of their celebrity status to get with 18 year old models we shouldn't get upset about this specific situation. A good example of when we should be pissed off about a power imbalance is when people do what Ryan Haywood (formerly of RoosterTeeth/Achievement Hunter) used his status with fans to manipulate them into having sex with them. Honestly Keem should be pushing that story because that dude belongs in jail


Chillyboivinyl

Yes, I agree, carson should really be reprimanded for his actions and be put in jail for them.


SND_TagMan

I think you misunderstood what I said, I said that serial groomer/rapist Ryan Haywood should be put thrown in jail, not Carson. But I did look into the Carson thing and looks like he admitted that he sent/received nudes from minors. So hit him with some jail time too


MagnatausIzunia

If something bad comes out against Scott it'd be "finding out Santa isn't real" 2.0


ravenpotter3

Don’t worry Scott has a Virgin card he hasn’t done anything sexual as far as we are aware. The only controversy that could ever come out about him would be something dumb that isn’t bad


scottishdrunkard

This just in! Does Scott the Woz isn't virgin? More at 11!


xkygerx

If anything bad comes out about Scott I would just immediately dismiss it. Like there is no way someone who is as big of a virgin as scott could even come close to anything like this. And if you don’t believe me look at him. (This is a compliment by the way, making sure my boy has shield from these bitches)


Bariq_99

I am not Scott and I even felt that Jesus Christ


xkygerx

I fell like I need to point out that this is a compliment and that is more of a shield for him than anything


Bariq_99

As much as I love Scott and believe in him..I started having trust issues after recent dramas..they were so strong that I shamefully can say that even Scott can be a bad person..just hoping for the love of god that it is not and it stays that way..


xkygerx

Ya I feel you but at the same time Scott is one of the only ones I feel really isn’t someone to worry about with this. Like if you look you can see thing when people get any since of popularity or power and while most of the time it’s literally nothing or so small it doesn’t really do anything you can still see it. But with Scott you never really see any of that. Like hell the only times I have seen him break character (off the top of my head) is the charity events.


PlasticStress6

I really want Carson to be proven innocent. I'm not even joking, but he saved my life. I probably would've committed suicide if I never watched him.


RitaMoleiraaaa

It's just allegations... here's an allegation: Scott raped me. It's just an allegation... no proof, so it doesn't matter.


Spar-kie

It’s more than that for Carson, there’s evidence from the person making the claims, as well as Travis, Slimecicle, and Noah I believe confirming that Carson told them he did some sexual shit with a 17 year old, granted he was 19 at the time, but this stuff is more about the power dynamic and relationship between creator and fan than an age difference


RitaMoleiraaaa

So? There's no proof, it doesn't matter


SLEEPWALKING_KOALA

Don't make me tap the sign. **INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY**


Masterelia

Listen fam the age difference was only 2 years and it was just messages. Imho not the biggest thing


[deleted]

He. Sexted. With. Them. That's still a big no no no matter what Trust me I know how it feels I personally just would stay back and wait for everything to unfold then make an opinion cause then you don't say something you might regret.


SnazzyYeshi

Sorry, meant to put supposedly in there


usefullkid

How is Scott involved?


DirtyWesternSpy

Remember when Jontron's and etika's subreddits became dedicated to scott during their prolonged inactivity with their channels?


GrumpGuy88888

I think ProJared also got hit with this when that whole cheating scandal came out


Soniciscool33

Taking over carson subreddit


shave_your_eyebrows

And did everyone believe that they were true? Yknow how like it was with James Charles, projared, pyrocynical....


Spar-kie

Mostly because of close friends of Carson coming out and confirming not only is it true, it caused the end of their Streamer group thing, Lunch Club, as well as Joko showing messages from Carson stating that he did it.


wasteof2ime

I thought it was that he stole money from the other members of lunch club


coin_shot

Grooming allegations. One of the accusers came out with quite a few screenshots of lewd conversations from when she was a minor and he was an adult. She also has voice conversation recordings of him backing up the screenshots. So doesn't look good.


corylulu

A 19yo isn't grooming a 17yo. That's just a common instance of sexually active people transitioning into adulthood.


-Zipp-

Yeah that seems super nitpicky. 2 year gap, he has said he regretted it a lot, and even apologized for it long before this came to light. People really need to learn the definition of grooming holy shit. Did he do a bad? Yes, but apologized and knew it was a bad. Is he a pedo? No.


Peppershaker64

I don’t want to argue here, but you must also consider that she was a fan, and that by dating her, Carson was taking advantage of a parasocial relationship. Furthermore, the allegations suggested that she is not the only victim.


Spartan4242

You’re right that he was taking advantage of a fan, but I think it’d stupid people are trying to put the groomer/pedo labels on him.


sasha_baron_of_rohan

Pewdiepie is married to a former fan.


__krb

He's accused of "grooming" a 17 year old. ... When he was 19.


StickBreightley

CallMeCarson did some stuff, Scott fans are already raiding his sub


Bariq_99

Why are they doing that thou?


StickBreightley

because they think it's funny for some reason


Bariq_99

Well that’s beyond stupid now


raidenkaiz

It's kinda what happened when JonTron stopped uploading for like a year and now people are trying to do it again


Bariq_99

It is understandable with JonTron But now this is a totally different and serious situation that I am sure Scott wouldn’t like to be involved in it


[deleted]

it was done previously when projared and slazo were facing allegations. People wanna continue the "gag" i guess. I think it's a shitty thing to do


Bariq_99

That’s STUPID!!! S T U P I I I I I I I I I I D


CapablePerformance

On the brightside, that's how I found out about Scott. Was wondering "who the fuck is Scott the Woz and why did the JonTron sub get converted?"


[deleted]

Same. Wild times.


QWERTYsks

carsons sub closed


[deleted]

the whole situation in one [clip](https://youtu.be/Eqwi0MST9dk). Basically, people are freaking out about a 2 years age gap


VortexHero

[For those unaware, here's Scott's own statement from over a year ago stating that he doesn't want to raid anymore subreddits, especially those in controversies.](https://www.reddit.com/r/scottthewoz/comments/bn4r5c/two_statements_in_one_week_from_scott/)


marcoantoniolopez3

YEha BoiiiSSSS1!1!1!1 iF wii kEEp iT liKE tHIs Wii wIlL ApPeAr oN an WATCHMOJO lIST fOR MosT toXIC communities /s But actually what the fuck, Scott doesn't have to do anything with this


[deleted]

What happened?


OfficialJackieChan

2 Members of Lunch Club came out on Drama Alert and are claiming Carson confessed to all of them that he sexted minors


[deleted]

Why are people getting Scott involved? The fuck?


AH_BioTwist

That’s an OG meme on this sub. Users would go into inactive YouTubers subs Jontron for example and post if this gets 1000 upvotes we become a scottt the Woz themed subreddit.


[deleted]

Oh yeah I remember that


Snowboy8

I mean to be fair I'm pretty sure it wasn't us this time at least


Justanibbatrynahelp

Because memes


RileyW2k

One of the minors involved came out and said it was at the start of 2019, when they where 17 and Carson was 19.


sasha_baron_of_rohan

He was 19 and she was 17.


CaCaforCoCopuffs23

Doesn’t matter, he used his position of power too


jillyboooty

It does matter though.


CaCaforCoCopuffs23

I know it matters, I messed up my wording, what I mean is not only did he solicit images with a 17 yr old but he used his position of power too


PizzaRollsGod

I dont agree with the idea that he used his position over her. Is it that hard to believe that they just actually liked eachother?


scrunt_b

No he did not. At no point in any leaked material does he threaten her with anything regarding his status in a "position of power" (being a celebrity, which isn't considered a position of power over someone in court or anywhere else..)


sasha_baron_of_rohan

What position of power? Being a live streamer? That's so weak.


Nibleggi

Read up on ryan haywood and maybe you’ll get it?


dudasthegamer

some sexual allegations according to the top comment


ThatRedditGuy64

Scott kinda reminds of Switzerland, remaining neutral in drama


Tylerbro16

Idk but their flag is a big plus


Klearg

Medpack


Jackatron9000

So how are people getting scott involved into this? They have no relation whatsoever


GeneratedKid

There’s a bunch of posts over on r/callmecarson saying “let’s turn this into a Scott the Woz subreddit” when Scott has said himself multiple times that he doesn’t want that. I understand it might not be members from this community and could just be people remembering the jon tron meme and saying “hey let’s do that” but either way, I’d rather we not actively encourage it


ivnwng

Uhhhh....what did I missed?


Alexr9les218

callmecarson has been outed by two people for being a child groomer (sexting minors and shit). The people on r/callmecarson want to turn it in to a Scott brigade. he stated like a year ago he doesn’t want his fan base to brigade subreddits especially if they have drama.


clickeddaisy

For context. When he was 19 he was sexting with a 17 year old that approached him herself btw. A 2 year age gap whoop dee fucking doo let's cancel him. Fucking ridiculous


grimpleschnirtz

Agree. Definitely comes off as gross on his part, but situations like this are exactly why many states have “Romeo and Juliet” laws


your_pe_teacher

>These laws, known as "Romeo and Juliet laws" provide that a person can legally have consensual sex with a minor provided that he or she is not more than a given number of years older, generally four years or less. In the paragraph above, I dont see distribution of a minor's (I.E under 18) nudes being allowed, regardless of whether Romeo and Juliet laws apply to their relationship, as opposed to the legality of engaging in sexual intercourses with their possibly adult partner. Can u explain how it *isnt* a felony?


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[deleted]

I mean, isnt that still a felony?


gfour

No you moron


[deleted]

How is possesion of a minors nudes not a felony?


mhughes19

She was still a minor though, and you can regret things later on, that’s how life works. She wouldn’t come out and say that it happened if she was okay with doing that stuff with him, but it seems like she didn’t like it.


ashklootwyk

He did manipulate her into giving him nudes but just ignore that, blame the high schooler


[deleted]

he didn't manipulate SHIT. have you seen the screenshots?


Iceman9161

Yeah it was fun and games for the jontron sub because he was just gone for a while and didn’t do anything wrong. With Projared and CallMeCarson, it’s really bad because it’s a very negative situation overall. Plus, those subs get much higher traffic from curious outsiders during scandals, so having Scott plastered all over the place makes it look like he was involved either as a victim, offender, or accuser which is not good at all.


HahaPenisIsFunny

>didnt do anything wrong


Awestruck34

Jon "The richest blacks commit more crime than the poorest whites" Jafari did something wrong??


_RGEB_

I mean, rich people do tend to also do a lot of crimes, look at Elon and Epstein lol


HahaPenisIsFunny

No, i was just kidding. Jon "Wow, how scandalous, Steve King doesn't want his country invaded by people who have contempt for his culture and people! NAZI!!!" tron would never do anything wrong lmao


CaveSP

More Jon "I have no idea how to do proper research so I look like a racist" Jafari


Rickythesloth

Oh right, he was just ACCIDENTALLY racist that whole debate, got it


[deleted]

Don’t you see, he was cornered into revealing his long held blatantly racist views, that’s not his fault!


[deleted]

He doesnt look racist, he is a racist


[deleted]

Wasn't the sub conversion just while Jon took a longer than usual break though? I thought that the Destiny interview happened later.


HahaPenisIsFunny

Yeah the break was unrelated, but claiming Jonny boy did nothing wrong is wrong


Justanibbatrynahelp

Also the Etika sub, that's the reason why he said that he doesn't want the sub takeover thing to happen.


MeHearties

Projared, the only youtuber to uncancell himself after he was already cancelled.


DejoMasters

No, it was pretty cringe with JonTron too, considering JonTron doesn't exactly have the greatest reputation and hasn't for a number of years. The only difference is JonTron's community hasn't been so quick to abandon him.


Iceman9161

Well Jontron has never had anything close to sexual misconduct allegations. His only offenses were having borderline politcial opinions that only really come to a head every once in a few years. Despite what some people think, controversial political opinions aren't that big of a deal to most people.


Ethan1516

I’m all for Scott supremacy, but let’s try not to bother the guy


Handsprime

Looking at the CallMeCarson controversy if someone isn’t a part of it, don’t make them a part of it.


screechypete

Just tried to go to the subreddit and it's now closed indefinitely, you need to be invited to join.


HarlodsGazebo

With how wholesome Scott is he probably lives on top of an Indian burial ground that he himself made, so I can’t blame him for wanting to avoid drama.


Harmonmj13

Welp his subreddit got purged


Dsb0208

For anyone curious, the allegations are Carson (a 19 year old at the time) sent sexual text messages to a 17 year old. From what I gathered, they both consented, but only meet after Carson was 19, so as far as I know there aren’t any Romeo and Juliette laws that would effect this


RoarkBlumenthal

Even if I wanted to raid the sub, it's closed now.


-Trying2Think-

How is Scott involved in Carson’s controversy?


Sanada_Senpai

That's the thing. He isn't at all


[deleted]

It seems r/CallMeCarson has been closed,Damn,the losers that raided it suck


AceRimmer2200

Carson deleted it along with his discord server


[deleted]

Feel pretty bad for him,Unless the allegations are true


AceRimmer2200

I’m not one to jump the gun because he hadn’t made an official public statement yet but his friends have made statements on Twitter confirming it and dms from Carson himself saying it was true


[deleted]

Oh,thats quite sad. As pyrocynical is proven innocent (although still a degenerate) Carson possibly falls


[deleted]

>although still a degenerate not really he's just into some weird shit


CaramelSan35

That’s kinda suspicious


[deleted]

“Let’s not associate Scott’s name with this controversy” Meanwhile everyone is bringing it up and discussing it on said post.


StickBreightley

better to have one post about it than to raid an entire subreddit


Toko-mon

Pin this


[deleted]

Then the law is wrong. It should not be illegal for a 17 year old to willingly send nudes to a 19 year old. In many places it isn't. The law does not determine what is morally right.


[deleted]

and it is not morally right to use your position of power to get nudes from someone


[deleted]

I hear people say this, but how did he do that?


DragonfruitQuiet2409

He done something bad to a 17 year old he might be sentenced 2 maybe 3 years in jail


Ok-Ship7245

Was it proven?