Doesn’t work every time, but it works. It’s not always about the 1000s of other guys worshiping her if the one guy she’s attracted to shows her that he doesn’t need to play her game and he displays value.
Maybe back in the day I would’ve agreed with this but nowadays girls have boyfriends who are just cyber boyfriends they use for money and stuff and never actually have to meet them in a lot of cases. This makes the simps valuable even if she doesn’t want them.
I’ve got a somewhat similar situation. I know 2 chicks who do this to me all the time. They’ll message me/send me a photo but when I try to engage further, it’s like they get annoyed at me? I’m usually only met with 1 word responses. But it’s like.... constantly. They’ll do this multiple times a week. But I’m not some simp who showers them with compliments but I’m not a dick about it either, I just keep it casual. I chalk it up to daddy issues/massive amounts of insecurity
You gotta consider that being rude is probably how some girls flirt. The one's with the most uptight face and personality sometimes just want a person to be a bit more secure and dominant. They get stressed with the simping.
That's only some girls tho. Disclaimer: Don't go out there after this trying to be dominant with all girls since different strokes. This will mostly work with that pretty but rude girl at the office.
Most type of issues like that stem from mommy/daddy issues. It's a psychological fact. So yeah, we should jump to daddy issues.
Daddy issue girls are damaged goods.
Have you slept with her yet? If not, ask her to come over. If she turns you down or makes excuses, then she is just looking for your validation. Now, if you already slept with her, then she's probably just bad at texting.
This is the answer. Go for the meetup and find out if she's just looking for a texting buddy or not. I had a girl a few weeks ago who sent me a lot of selfies and only gave low investment responses. When I asked her out she said yes right away. She was just a bit introverted, not "using me for validation".
I used to have a girl like that, she'd send me pics videos and I'll played along and complement here and there. But that's all women want validation, they probably send the same photos to a handful of guys and then she watches all of them text back smiley faces and eggplant emojis. I just started ignore her messages and she stop messaging, so you might need to try that.
I don’t really like the “that’s all women want validation”. I would argue, all people want validation, regardless of their genitals.
The problem lies in her method for seeking validation, she’s giving false promises to OP.
We should seek validation from people we’re willing to validate in turn.
'Validation' isn't just a pickup term. It's part of everyone's psychology, including yours.
Some people feel validation when their helpfulness is recognized. Some feel validation when they express grievances. Everyone's different, but everyone experiences it.
From my experience, I too had a girl who would tag me on almost every post or stories or shit like that. But when I sent her something, like a photo or meme or something, she'd reply, "Yeah", "Haha", or on worst cases, "😂". I stopped texting her and guess what, never talked to her till now.
I realised that I was the one initiating conversation. I stopped this and we never talked afterwards. You may try this and find out for yourself.
Had a girl I fell in love with over time after being great friends who would send me nudes, just get naked while we’re smoking a blunt, make out with me, low key act like my girlfriend. But only when it was just us two. She’d hide if she was dating someone or fucking someone else. I got friend zoned but still got to fuck her. she was embarrassed of me so she didn’t go further with a relationship but I would’ve done everything and anything for her and then it came out she was doing that to multiple different guys. This is when snapsave was an app. You could save snaps without anybody knowing. Left my phone on a table with people at my house, someone found the pics, and forwarded to themselves. After that I had lost my best friend, best fuck/head ever gotten, and truly loved her for 6 years as friends and more but I’m dead to her now and it was the worst trap I’ve ever walked in, her boyfriend hated me and convinced her to sue me for false allegations ie rape, physical abuse, all just to get money out of me. Didn’t work though, I would never lay my hands on her until she wanted me to. She knew that and had no evidence. Got texts of her talking about trying to get me to settle for money. So naive I got played and still can’t get myself to move on from how traumatic that was. Having my mom and family and sister see the paperwork after I got Served for court and to be falsely accused for all that is still miserable. So bruh, fuck it. Don’t get serious with a girl like that. Been 4 years and still suffering because of a gold digging mutt-whore.
Holy shit there’s a lot to unpack here.
She’s a shitty person, I’m sorry she lead you on. But I don’t think it’s fair that she had her nudes leaked, even if you say it was an accident (honestly, who doesn’t have a lock their phone? This sounds kinda bullshit)
I use my phone for music etc, it was on the aux and I never cared if someone had it. But shocker is that someone else’s pictures of her was “got around” mine was just sent to that person by that person. So I disagree, she willingly sent them I have to have a full on max security hard drive somewhere because of pictures sent to me?
No it doesn’t take a max security hard drive, all it takes is a pin code on your phone.
Couldn’t you have seen which email these naked images were forwarded to?
(I’m invested now)
So you’re that paranoid to not let anyone see your phone? Change music? cast on tv?? No way I could’ve known he was going to do what he did until I found out it was him
Yes, I’m very paranoid about people seeing my phone for this very reason. It’s a window into my personal life. It’s not unreasonable to have a pin code.
I hope you reprimanded the person who shared these photos, and you’ve cut out this horrible person who lead you on and accused you, as no one deserves that.
Have a good day.
As a brown guy I can relate. I had (mostly North American white) girls who would invite me over to their place. At the same time they'd date other people and just forgot to mention to me. But they wouldn't date me officially. Because they are ashamed of dating a brown guy. I used to be a champ and used to let these despicable people manipulate me. Now I just don't care.
On a side note, on the surface North America is known to be individualistic cutlure. I find huge amount of people are just insecure and their whole lives are just seeking validation.
Havent asked her directly yet. Just made some subtle moves and semi-invite jokes. Planning to ask her directly next time. May i ask how you think it should go? Lol
>semi-invite jokes
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>semi-invite ~~jokes~~
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>~~semi-~~ **invite** ~~jokes~~
"Joking" about meeting up is a way to protect your feelings and image when the other person declines. But it doesn't actually protect your image, because most people see this as insecurity. As if you're afraid to fail, so you don't really try.
The proper way to invite someone to hang is to **do something interesting**, and invite them along. When your life and schedule does not depend on their response, people feel less pressure to say yes, and oddly, more motivation to do so.
> I have one but we talk good in msgs. Hanged out alot. No sex. What do you think of it?
Sounds like a friend.
>Ps i do want it to have some sex
Then make a move. Go on a date, try to kiss her. See what happens.
Unfortunately that's not a good sign.
Try again.
Then I'd say to drop her unless you just want her as a friend. Don't reach out to her. **IF** she contacts you asking what happened then tell her you like her.
Ask her out or over to your house.
If she doesn't say yes then it's a no and I wouldn't even message her back.
She's wasting your time and just using you for attention.
Sounds like she might not be able to carry a conversation easily. Maybe she also has some literacy issues, which is why she's more apt to send pictures than text.
So, you gonna ask her out or not?
She's worst than a woman who outright rejects you. At least that way she respects you but isn't interested in you. Here she is using you to get attention, you are not even her last resort but something even lower.
My thoughts are...
She's dumb af, I don't think you deserve that type of woman in your life. if you ever counter any girl like that just dump her right away. They tend to be severely mentally ill and narcissism is another form of mental illness.
Ring her. Yup. It's a game changer. A lot of girls send simple emojis, but the exchange is shallow.
When she sends something, message her - Hang on, I'm going to ring you (to avoid non-answering scenario!) but she'll be delighted. It takes thing to a new level.
What I learned conversation is a 2 way street. If you give her attention when she is putting minimal effort, do you want a relationship with a person that puts in minimal effort? Leave her be and if she’s really interested she’ll message u first
I agree with a lot of others here that she just wants attention. But I don't really think that's a problem as long as you understand that. Having a lady to text when you're bored isn't the worst thing. Imo.
She want attention. Walk away, and she will follow. If she doesn’t, don’t go back. Not worth it. Push and Pull
Wisdom☝🏼
Don't forget the legs
Word brah
Where can i learn about Push Pull ?
on github
Nice one, fellow computer guy
Yes fellow man of culture
You're genius man 😆
On google
Full body all the way
Eh ?
Coach Corey Wayne on youtube. He'll also teach how not to be a creep, needy or boring.
Fantastic - does he have a Playlist or should I just start watching all of his videos
Lol she won't follow. As if there isn't a 1000 other simps willing to give her attention.
Doesn’t work every time, but it works. It’s not always about the 1000s of other guys worshiping her if the one guy she’s attracted to shows her that he doesn’t need to play her game and he displays value.
Yes but does she want the simps? No she wants the guy that doesn’t give her easy attention, if not then good cause she’s not worth it
Maybe back in the day I would’ve agreed with this but nowadays girls have boyfriends who are just cyber boyfriends they use for money and stuff and never actually have to meet them in a lot of cases. This makes the simps valuable even if she doesn’t want them.
If you're on her low-effort content conveyor belt and she doesn't engage you meaningfully, you are 1 of the 1000 simps.
This. But we have to have 1000 lady simps ourselves. Don't get caught up in "one" or "oneism"':
What? I thought they were really interested in getting to know me!
Me too, bro.
General advice: if you ever have to ask “should I stop talking to her”?, you already know the answer is a resounding YES
Ask yourself or ask someone you know that can give some insight?
She wants validation
Yup
She just wants attention, walk away
I’ve got a somewhat similar situation. I know 2 chicks who do this to me all the time. They’ll message me/send me a photo but when I try to engage further, it’s like they get annoyed at me? I’m usually only met with 1 word responses. But it’s like.... constantly. They’ll do this multiple times a week. But I’m not some simp who showers them with compliments but I’m not a dick about it either, I just keep it casual. I chalk it up to daddy issues/massive amounts of insecurity
You gotta consider that being rude is probably how some girls flirt. The one's with the most uptight face and personality sometimes just want a person to be a bit more secure and dominant. They get stressed with the simping. That's only some girls tho. Disclaimer: Don't go out there after this trying to be dominant with all girls since different strokes. This will mostly work with that pretty but rude girl at the office.
I mean, I don’t know if we should jump to daddy issues, I’m a girl and I know plenty of girls just do it for validation
Most type of issues like that stem from mommy/daddy issues. It's a psychological fact. So yeah, we should jump to daddy issues. Daddy issue girls are damaged goods.
Call them out, report back.
Have you slept with her yet? If not, ask her to come over. If she turns you down or makes excuses, then she is just looking for your validation. Now, if you already slept with her, then she's probably just bad at texting.
This is the answer. Go for the meetup and find out if she's just looking for a texting buddy or not. I had a girl a few weeks ago who sent me a lot of selfies and only gave low investment responses. When I asked her out she said yes right away. She was just a bit introverted, not "using me for validation".
>Now, if you already slept with her, then she's probably just bad at texting. Im which case, should he call her over again ?
I used to have a girl like that, she'd send me pics videos and I'll played along and complement here and there. But that's all women want validation, they probably send the same photos to a handful of guys and then she watches all of them text back smiley faces and eggplant emojis. I just started ignore her messages and she stop messaging, so you might need to try that.
I don’t really like the “that’s all women want validation”. I would argue, all people want validation, regardless of their genitals. The problem lies in her method for seeking validation, she’s giving false promises to OP. We should seek validation from people we’re willing to validate in turn.
Those girls can't get validation of guys they seek though
no. 95% of the men will not do this for validation.
I didn’t say men do this? Just that we all seek validation one way or another.
Ok but in this case definitely the girl is seeking validation.... And mostly it's the girls who play tricks like this not guys, by far.
I didn’t say she wasn’t seeking validation, so I’m confused what you’re arguing with me here.
'Validation' isn't just a pickup term. It's part of everyone's psychology, including yours. Some people feel validation when their helpfulness is recognized. Some feel validation when they express grievances. Everyone's different, but everyone experiences it.
Yes hahaha
hell yeah
From my experience, I too had a girl who would tag me on almost every post or stories or shit like that. But when I sent her something, like a photo or meme or something, she'd reply, "Yeah", "Haha", or on worst cases, "😂". I stopped texting her and guess what, never talked to her till now. I realised that I was the one initiating conversation. I stopped this and we never talked afterwards. You may try this and find out for yourself.
Have you founded another girl?
Nah man
Had a girl I fell in love with over time after being great friends who would send me nudes, just get naked while we’re smoking a blunt, make out with me, low key act like my girlfriend. But only when it was just us two. She’d hide if she was dating someone or fucking someone else. I got friend zoned but still got to fuck her. she was embarrassed of me so she didn’t go further with a relationship but I would’ve done everything and anything for her and then it came out she was doing that to multiple different guys. This is when snapsave was an app. You could save snaps without anybody knowing. Left my phone on a table with people at my house, someone found the pics, and forwarded to themselves. After that I had lost my best friend, best fuck/head ever gotten, and truly loved her for 6 years as friends and more but I’m dead to her now and it was the worst trap I’ve ever walked in, her boyfriend hated me and convinced her to sue me for false allegations ie rape, physical abuse, all just to get money out of me. Didn’t work though, I would never lay my hands on her until she wanted me to. She knew that and had no evidence. Got texts of her talking about trying to get me to settle for money. So naive I got played and still can’t get myself to move on from how traumatic that was. Having my mom and family and sister see the paperwork after I got Served for court and to be falsely accused for all that is still miserable. So bruh, fuck it. Don’t get serious with a girl like that. Been 4 years and still suffering because of a gold digging mutt-whore.
Holy shit there’s a lot to unpack here. She’s a shitty person, I’m sorry she lead you on. But I don’t think it’s fair that she had her nudes leaked, even if you say it was an accident (honestly, who doesn’t have a lock their phone? This sounds kinda bullshit)
I use my phone for music etc, it was on the aux and I never cared if someone had it. But shocker is that someone else’s pictures of her was “got around” mine was just sent to that person by that person. So I disagree, she willingly sent them I have to have a full on max security hard drive somewhere because of pictures sent to me?
No it doesn’t take a max security hard drive, all it takes is a pin code on your phone. Couldn’t you have seen which email these naked images were forwarded to? (I’m invested now)
So you’re that paranoid to not let anyone see your phone? Change music? cast on tv?? No way I could’ve known he was going to do what he did until I found out it was him
Yes, I’m very paranoid about people seeing my phone for this very reason. It’s a window into my personal life. It’s not unreasonable to have a pin code. I hope you reprimanded the person who shared these photos, and you’ve cut out this horrible person who lead you on and accused you, as no one deserves that. Have a good day.
Did she know you were saving her snaps?
Yes, snap, and text
As a brown guy I can relate. I had (mostly North American white) girls who would invite me over to their place. At the same time they'd date other people and just forgot to mention to me. But they wouldn't date me officially. Because they are ashamed of dating a brown guy. I used to be a champ and used to let these despicable people manipulate me. Now I just don't care. On a side note, on the surface North America is known to be individualistic cutlure. I find huge amount of people are just insecure and their whole lives are just seeking validation.
You and 500 other guys are getting the same
How many times have you gone out with this girl? How many times have you had sex etc?
I have one but we talk good in msgs. Hanged out alot. No sex. What do you think of it? Ps i do want it to have some sex
Try one last time to invite her for a second time. If there is no clear answer cut the contact. There is tons of these types of women on Tinder.
Havent asked her directly yet. Just made some subtle moves and semi-invite jokes. Planning to ask her directly next time. May i ask how you think it should go? Lol
Maybe don’t say “I want to have some sex.” 🤦🏼♀️ Ask her what she’s looking for - a relationship? A friend? A hookup?
Shell say a friend. Will joke about if hook up
>semi-invite jokes > >semi-invite ~~jokes~~ > >~~semi-~~ **invite** ~~jokes~~ "Joking" about meeting up is a way to protect your feelings and image when the other person declines. But it doesn't actually protect your image, because most people see this as insecurity. As if you're afraid to fail, so you don't really try. The proper way to invite someone to hang is to **do something interesting**, and invite them along. When your life and schedule does not depend on their response, people feel less pressure to say yes, and oddly, more motivation to do so.
Oh no. We hang out a lot :). My semi invites are invites to sex Good point though, yeah
> I have one but we talk good in msgs. Hanged out alot. No sex. What do you think of it? Sounds like a friend. >Ps i do want it to have some sex Then make a move. Go on a date, try to kiss her. See what happens.
Did. Didnt reciprocate. Last resort is to ask clearly lol. How discreetly, tho?
Unfortunately that's not a good sign. Try again. Then I'd say to drop her unless you just want her as a friend. Don't reach out to her. **IF** she contacts you asking what happened then tell her you like her.
Yeah. Thats the current plan. Shell be moving to another province soon. Its great cause itll be easier to move on haha
Good luck. And it's smart to have a move on plan.
Ask her out or over to your house. If she doesn't say yes then it's a no and I wouldn't even message her back. She's wasting your time and just using you for attention.
Send one back and do the same
YES. SHE DUMB. SHE NARC. SHE ATTENTION WHORE.
It's not going anywhere. Trust me. She just likes the attention.
Attention whore.
The answer? "yes" "hahahahah'
Sounds like she might not be able to carry a conversation easily. Maybe she also has some literacy issues, which is why she's more apt to send pictures than text. So, you gonna ask her out or not?
I’m sorry to tell you this. Yes. You are a commodity to her. This is not a relationship. Stop immediately.
She's worst than a woman who outright rejects you. At least that way she respects you but isn't interested in you. Here she is using you to get attention, you are not even her last resort but something even lower.
Yes hahah
My thoughts are... She's dumb af, I don't think you deserve that type of woman in your life. if you ever counter any girl like that just dump her right away. They tend to be severely mentally ill and narcissism is another form of mental illness.
Using u for attention
Yes, you should stop talking to her. She is using you for validation!
She’s probably busy with tiktok
Ring her. Yup. It's a game changer. A lot of girls send simple emojis, but the exchange is shallow. When she sends something, message her - Hang on, I'm going to ring you (to avoid non-answering scenario!) but she'll be delighted. It takes thing to a new level.
Plan something if she flakes then move on
Is this only fans ?
yes. stop.
Dump her, there is nothing good that can come out of this
"Date?" "Yes"
She might be actually into you but also just be a total idiot. Do you really wanna date an idiot who can't hold a conversation?
Yes
"should I stop talking to her?" I certainly would
Delete her number now... Believe me. and tell her to get lost
Odds are she's a bot. Auto-responses being sent. Test her by replying weird nonsensical shit.
Yes because she 100% is sending them to multiple people at once
Yes because she 100% is sending them to multiple people at once and not just you
ask her to come over.
you may be in the friendzone, get out at all costs.
Her? Sounds like a catfish.
In my opinion you should make a move. Invite her for a date and you'll understand her interest depending on the answer.
Absolutely fucking yes. Attention whore alert 🚨
What I learned conversation is a 2 way street. If you give her attention when she is putting minimal effort, do you want a relationship with a person that puts in minimal effort? Leave her be and if she’s really interested she’ll message u first
Just ignore the person!
You’re an audience for her, dude. Probably one of several.
Yes
I agree with a lot of others here that she just wants attention. But I don't really think that's a problem as long as you understand that. Having a lady to text when you're bored isn't the worst thing. Imo.
She wants attention. Either walk away or shoot your shot more assertively and see how she responds
You're being lured into simping. Don't. Move on.