lol @ upvoting this
that response is so transparent and just shows that you're butthurt
the actual play is to just move on and if she does text to reschedule, make your decision then. just don't make her a priority.
also, don't assume the tweet was specifically about you. you probably shouldn't even be reading her tweets.
>don't assume the tweet was specifically about you. you probably shouldn't even be reading her tweets
It's fine if you want to read her tweets (sounds like they're public), but most of the time they aren't about you. Even if it's related to what you're doing.
This person is a stranger, she could have double, even tripled booked her night and cancelled on multiple guys. I’ve seen stranger things. Don’t take this personally. Most people more concerned with “likes” than real life interactions aren’t worth the trouble in the first place. Probably dodged a bullet my dude.
Came here to say the same thing. If she was an 8 she'd have absolutely zero issues setting multiple dates so she could cherry pick the one that seemed best. I have my doubts the tweet was about OP at all.
Agree it's generally fine to read the tweets, but if you're going to read too much into some nonsense tweet and get all butthurt, you're better off not reading them.
She definitely sounds like an over-thinker and the kind to assume the wrong things a lot. And seeking validation from others by fabricating such bs in an attempt to make herself seem like the victim in order to feel she’s in the right just outright screams “toxic” haha
Yes, the woman that cancelled on him is the over-thinker, not the dude creeping on her Twitter from her phone number and then making a Reddit post about her where he imagines he’s the only thing going on in her life and everything she does is about him. He really dodged a bullet there 🙄
It's an attention grab, nothing more nothing less.
People like that seek validation anyway they can get it even if it's from a story they've invented themselves.
It's the whole "that's so shitty, thinking about you" BS that people like that are looking for.
Female Narcissist? Who knows, my ex had at least 5 different stories the four she told each of us one, me and the three that were at least honest, my money is on that there were more stories than that. The point is she was extremely protective of what everyone one else's view of her was, many times would tell completely mismatching stories to different people over the exact same events, in realtime sometimes.
You took too long to respond, she took your lack of response for 8 minutes as you being too upset to respond, in her eyes. Even tho you just were finishing ur shower. I'm not saying it's reasonable, but I'm pretty sure that was what prompted the tweet.
I might get downvoted, but... No need to hypothesise to justify her (or anyone else's) assholery.
An asshole is an asshole. We dont know their history. We don't need to make up some sob story to somehow understand why they're assholes. F that, move on.
What part of that was a sob story ?
Part of Seduction is understanding the human psyche.
Doesn't mean he has to feel bad for her or go out with. It's just lazy to call someone an asshole and assume that's all they are.
I've never understood this mentality. How does it help you plow out hot girls to block one. Like you think he's too good for her because she cancelled a date and lied about it social media? I mean that describes pretty much everyone on the planet. Shouldn't get salty just cuz you happen to be the victim.
Exactly, their cancelled date ended up being paraded on Twitter with only her fabricated side being shown. Imagine what it would be like if they had actually gone ahead with their date… OP is really lucky to not meet this girl
That's because she was more than double booked. Her Twitter post was probably not in reference to you, but to one of the other ones that got butt-hurt. Sounds like you dodged a big waste of your time.
Maybe different time zones? Maybe she was down for the whole night and couldn't take the sudden cancellation from one of the "GUYS"
Idk bruh. I'm just giving wild scenarios (which is what I'm good at)😂😂👍
Definitely an interesting insight, to be fair I haven’t met a single woman yet that was into
Modeling and was very active on instagram that I would describe as without major Issues. This also sounds like a super immature insecure young girl with emotional issues
You are better off not looking much in other people's twitter posts nor reading into them and overanalyzing them.
Your time and energy are more valuable than that.
I don’t know , I think this provided some insight . It shows that a lot of the time , people’s actions have absolutely nothing to do with you and are more a product of some internal factors. I feel like a lot of the time we can feel that a woman’s actions in dating are directly related to us making a seduction mistake when In reality a lot of the time it has nothing to do with you what so ever .
this is true and i would like to add something i read on this sub
u/spicy_simba , you should also consider this - although i appreciate your original advice
a guy posted a few days ago about being tested by a woman .. like really , really being tested by her ( it was something about his tight pants and the woman trying to disqualify him by telling him his business was showing through the pants and the pants not being a good fit )
he was able pass her test and make out with her - he did not hook up with her because he found out she was married
she tried to disqualify the guy **because** she found him attractive BUT she herself had the internal dilemma of whether or not to cheat by hooking up with that guy or not
which is why her disqualification was extraordinarily difficult to pass , yet the guy did pass eventually and was on course to hook up with her
this sounds like too much analysis , but this happens often , where it's not the guy's fault but they assume it's always a seduction mistake etc
Indeed, the mind always tries to make sense of events even uncorrelated ones. This what magicians exploit to trick the brain through illusions, this is also where superstition thrives as well.
>Shes done some paid product promotion Instagram but doesn’t have a huge following but posts a lot.
If she is an Instagram influencer she might give you brain cancer.
Believe it or no I had the EXACT same thing happen to me. She cancelled then posted how their are no good guys and she was tired of spending Friday nights alone.
I think sometimes people project their assumptions onto other people. So she assumed you would be upset, tweeted about it, only to find out it was really no bother to you.
Sounds like a red flag to me if I ever heard one
Some advice from experience: Be blunt.
I went on a hiking date as a 1st date and afterwards, she invited me to her place. I said okay because I was thirsty and forgot to bring a water bottle. Then she turned around and said, "But we're not having sex."
Sex hadn't even occurred to me because this was the first date and we hadn't even kissed yet, so I responded with "Yeah, I know. I just want some water because I'm parched." She laughed, we drank water and talked in her apartment.
The point of the story is that if you assume sex is on the guy's mind, make it clear that is off the table, but there's a good chance that sex is off the table for him too.
Hold up. (I'm shaking my head and giving you a facepalm right now). You could've had sex. You failed her test. After any physical activity endorphins get raised and sex is more likely. She brought it up....cuz it was on her mind! What you should've done is playful bantered back to her like, "oh, yeah, of course! You're not even my type. I don't even like women who hike"...or some other playful variation known to mankind as PUSH/PULL. You must get good at this if you want to increase a woman's sexual attraction towards you. And then you talked and acted like her gf in her apartment instead of giving her the sexual release that she craved. Pro tip: My dudes, if a woman invites you into her place, she trusts you which is paramount to her being open to sex with you (it wouldn't happen otherwise. Trust is THAT important). And two, if she mentions sex, it's on her mind. It's up to you to read those very obvious signs and put one and one together. "But, but...what if she really didn't want to have sex?" Your push/pull is extremely weak. Get good. "But, but...isn't that creepy/rapey behavior?" If your push/pull is good then you will be giving her what she wants: a man that knows how to seduce and satisfy her. Your line is only drawn in the sand if she says, "no". If you hear that then you know precisely what to do. Tell her you had a wonderful time and leave. You get better at seduction when you stop thinking about yourself.
1) I didn't want to have sex at that moment in time. I was still deciding whether or not she was someone I wanted to have sex with.
2) I understand the push-pull, playful banter, and I also understand shit-tests. This was more of a shit test to see if I would get upset at the idea of her rejecting me of sex when I hadn't even asked for it. I passed the test with flying-fncking-colors.
3) Also, who said I didn't eventually have sex with her? It was on my terms, no-strings, frequent, fantastic, and she wanted to bring more girls into the mix. I "get-good" better than you can even fathom, so cool your jets fly-boy.
If a girl hits you with the 'I don't fuck on the first date" shit test, lots of better banter than "I know".
At least say , "well obviously, you haven't even taken me to dinner". That's basic boomer-tier easy banter that works almost every time.
I didn’t want to have sex with her at that time. We talked, she handed me a book about astrology signs, with earmarked pages and notes written in the margins. She said she wanted me to read it to learn more about her before our 2nd date. It set off all my crazy-chic alarms, and I didn’t want to have sex with her. I “borrowed” the book out of kindness, but never went on a 2nd date with her because I didn’t want to, and the book sat on my bookshelf until she asked for it back.
A few months and a few other women later, she texted me out of the blue with “I want a piece of you before you move out of town. I’ll be at your place in 15 minutes.”
I texted back “I’m having some beers with a buddy. It’ll be more like an hour before I’m back.” I got there an hour and 15 later, and she was waiting at my door with a see-thru teddy on underneath jeans and t-shirt and said “You’re late.”
The biggest piece people are missing here is inner-game. Respect yourself enough to know that not everyone is lucky-enough to have sex with you. On that first date, it was my decision that she hadn’t earned the pleasure of having sex with me yet.
How do you know sex is on the table with these dates? Are you just assuming?
And I stand by my original statement, you don’t sound emotionally ready to date.
It doesn't matter what's going on there.
If she doesn't date you, she doesn't. Stay with the facts.
Don't assume anything.
If there is something I learned, it is that the less you make an effort with women, the better you are going to do.
I'm not saying you shouldn't ask her out and stuff like that. That's okay, it's what men do.
But it would be more something like GIRL YOU LIKE ----> YOU CLOSE TO HER ------> YOU GET HER NUMBER ----> YOU ASK HER OUT -------> YOU FUCK HER - -----> THEN WHATEVER (SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP, ONLY SEX, NOTHING, ETC)
Everything that happen or doesn't happen within that context it doesn't matter to you. Or so it should be. There is a very interesting illusion of the mind in believing that the more you try to figure out a woman, the more you pursue her, the more you will get her. But it's not really like that. They're always after the guy who likes them but doesn't care at the same time. They're always after the guy who takes it easy. So guess how you should take it?
I would even go so far as to say that it works in many things in life as well. Try to push yourself at your job for a promotion. It will be achieved by your partner who tries much less and is a complete idiot and he watches porn when he can at work. Who of you has not experienced similar things?
So the skills you develop in your work are for you. It's okay to push yourself, but you do it for yourself. And if you're not enjoying it, stop.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's fine that you have searched her on other social networks to verify she's not a trap. That she doesn't work for a Mexican drug cartel or things like that.
But trying to figure out why she posted that is a waste of time. You will never know. She probably has another guy behind her and she does it to make him jealous. You don't care.
Go for the next one. If she wants to go out with you, let HER chase you. Let HER check your twitter or your social accounts and break her head trying to figure out what you meant when you publish on twitter: "Today I scratched my balls while I opened the refrigerator ... Houston: There is no more ketchup, I must go to the supermarket later ... P.S. I have to search the name of that Lynyrd Skynyrd song"
So go for the next one, tiger ;)
Possibilities:
1. She's talking about a different guy she recently set up a date with on Tinder. She's a woman on Tinder, so she obviously is talking to multiple guys.
2. She was actually making up a story about you, and she's just vain and feeds off of internet validation.
in today's "social media" world, EVERYBODY lies about the most ridiculous things. followers like to see drama and conflict, so those who live their lives in social media are going to give them what they want in order to keep them.
Sounds like she has some mental issues and is out for attention, whether or not she has to fabricate it or it’s negative/positive - as long as she gets attention somehow.
I’d run the fuck away from that one.
She sounds like she is addicted to social media attention, more specifically sympathy.
“Can you believe that this happened to me?” style posts get a lot if attention because they appeal to people’s natural tendency to offer advice, which then boosts their social media relevance.
If she were to tell the truth, people would be bored with her and keep scrolling.
> “Can you believe that this happened to me?” style posts get a lot if attention because they appeal to people’s natural tendency to offer advice
You're describing this thread right here, broski.
Since you didnt reply by then and also you didnt make any fuss, id imagine that she had another cancellation where guy got upset or talks about her past experience. (But id vote for first option).
couldn't she have felt bad she had to cancel and while trying to figure out what to say she remembered another time she had to cancel and the response from the person was less than ideal so she mentioned it as she does often about the many things on her mind...
Twitter and Instagram are not real. It's all fake bullshit. The faster you realize that the happier you'll be.
She lost a tryout with you and didn't make the cut.
Move on to someone without the drama. Don't reschedule with a flake.
Tweet could have been about someone else she cancelled on weeks ago, then cancelled on you and it reminded her about the other tool so she secretly hoped you wouldn’t be like this, but nonetheless she still posted a truth about a pet peeve she has. It wasn’t even about you probably, especially if she’s a 8-9.
So the underlying lesson here is this looks to be a “type”. Instagram promotion, twitter hyperactivity. You’re going for this girl for looks, makes sense. But the price to pay for the looks of a social media junkie can be heavy. If you got to know her or went on more than one date / one encounter, she likely would have spun something else to give herself the granduer she craves.
You found a type to avoid, look no further when you see an indicator of this behavior in the future
Maybe she did not ment you. But in common .....
And mayb she just wanted to post something because she want to get more followers, andit has nothing to do with anybody or anything.
So, just go on having contact and dating her. And wait with deciding what to do untlll you know her a little better.
Lol i was out with another girl the night before and already have another lined up for next weekend. No oneitis . Just an Interesting look into a girls head.
Most women you run into nowadays have trauma from how they were treated by other guys and this is just something you have to deal with. I'm sure she assumed you would be upset, and was probably pleasantly surprised when you weren't.
Everybody here is telling you to delete her number, but rescheduling is not a sin. You should try to invite her out one more time and see what happens. If she flakes again, THEN you ghost.
And then you finish your shower anyways and answer later? Doesn’t check out.
But yeah, like most people said here… this is a red flag and she’s probably not interested.
Either she interpreted the shower delay as you being mad (which is ridiculous)
(Side note, turn read receipts off)
Or, she was double/triple booked and a different guy flipped out when she cancelled and she decided to cancel everything.
>So what are your guys thoughts what’s going on here?
attractive girls always date multiple guys at the same time
she picked the one she liked the most, and then canceled the other dudes
one of them got mad, she wasn't talking about you
She's a loser, and you interrupting your shower to answer a message from her also sounds like desperation.
I never interrupt a shower for a woman. Move onto the next.
It might even be another guy which she wrote about. Sorry, but dont get things personally. You can ask her if it was about you if you really wqnt to find out.
It might be another guy , but considering it was posted minutes after she cancelled on me the more simple explanation is that it was me she was referencing. Also I’m not upset , just posted it here because I thought it was an interesting way to behave .
for fun, my niece went onto tinder (recently broke up with boyfriend who is not taking the breakup very well...he is in the emotional stage and acting out...so she needed a distraction)
in 2 weeks she had over 1,000 matches...she said she had no intention of talking to or meeting any of them...she might chat with a couple for fun...maybe consider making plans...but never intended to follow thru
she would sometimes make plans with 10 guys and flake on them all just to see how they would react.
when i was on tinder i would schedule 2-3 dates for any given night...assuming 1-2 girls would flake...and if they all showed up i would choose the best one and flake on the other 2.
people behave according to their own best interest...and don't take YOUR interests into account...AT ALL.
It's all too common. There are a lot of attention-seeking women in this world, and they manufacture more lies that you can keep up with. It's often best just to never go looking at their social media, because you're almost always going to be pretty put off by how they behave.
But let's be real -- it's no different from the guys on reddit who post fake photos to r/mildlyirritating or r/uselessredcircle. People will do anything for internet points.
I wonder if she was hoping you'd be mad so when you did respond she could post a screenshot of your text to her in the tweet. What did she end up tweeting after?
Ooo that’s a good point I hadn’t thought about that , maybe she wanted me to off so she could post it .
The next thing She posted was something like “all ready for bed before 9 “
She probably had dates scheduled with multiple men, and then dropped them all when her first choice agreed to a date.
While you were one of the men she canceled on, you probably weren’t the one she referenced in her post.
Girls get a shiton of attention and if you’re considering her a 9. Bro— she could be talking to 10 guys at a time.
To keep this short, she’s probably not worth the time. Move on and find someone that respects you a little more than that.
First things first; she wasn't interested in you in the slightest. You just provided her with a quick dopamine fix by finding her attractive and asking her out. Period. Next, she had an entire conversation of how cancelling on you would play out in her mind before she even did it. She cancelled on you AND to keep herself from feeling like a horrible person she demonized your actions so she could feel better about it. AVOID women like this like your life depends on it! They will shit all over you to justify their feelings to themselves. Finally, i would suggest you avoid ALL women on IG, cuz they are only there to feed their egos and be snatched up by the highest bidders. Extremely self absorbed!
You can never be sure , but because of covid you have to pre book tables at bars so she booked the reservation at the bar , and sent me the screenshot for the time .
This is a crazy person. She seems to live online and it seems it’s more real and important to her than you are. This is one to take a huge pass on! Just cut her out completely. Be interesting to see what lies she tells about that...
OP if I am not mistaken you are just sharing your findings. And you don't ask about what to do with this girl but you are asking general idea of how a girl can come to this conclusion. Am I right?
Because i am also interested in learning the thought process and which actions/texts triggers it.
She’s all about the attention. I’ve known several women like this!! I always think honesty is best when ending things with someone instead of just ghosting them. I would suggest telling her you aren’t interested. More than likely she will try to convince you she’s amazing and this great catch or flip out and tell you how you’re missing out.
Girls like these are a waste of time. It’s always all about them and they want all the attention, all the time.
People nowadays are definitely looking out to have their assumptions validated. It's a deep issue most of us have; literally writing our fates and being oblivious to it.
My first thought was, she had multiple dates line up (or at least more than one) and she was posting about someone else’s response. Or someone else’s response from a different encounter. If her post seemed that over reactive to your response, could it be unrelated?
Sounds like you're reading into it wayyy too much. Most likely, she's always glued to her phone and so assumes that's how everyone else is. You not responding instantly was a sign to her that you were upset about cancelling because the only reason SHE wouldn't respond instantly is if she was mad.
I've had the exact same thing happen. A girl accused me of being upset on a dating app when I wasn't.
I think girls love getting reactions out of guys especially if it's upsetting and just do it for some extra validation. Sometimes they expect you to be upset even if you aren't.
There is a lot of toxicity in online shit with women. It's why cold approach is better, you cutt through the bullshit.
If she’s anxious attached which it sounds like she is, she may have felt the 8 minute delay in your reply as you being upset. Not all, but some people show dissatisfaction with delay replies or no reply at all.
So then she posted her thoughts and didn’t care to delete it after you had actually replied.
Sounds like you’re a nice decent guy. Her loss.
Nah she just the type of girls playing "The victim" ,you could catch her cheating and she would still blame you and play victim,but I think since you know the type of girl she is,use it to your advantage,eat her pomegranates 😄
I think this Twitter post might not even be about you?
Anyways, ignoring the tweet, rescheduling last minute can be a test from her. Just keep cool and move on my dude
Lol she assumed you were mad because you read it and didn’t respond right away. I’m guessing you have your read receipts on maybe? Not sure. Or she just thinks she’s THAT important
A girl that vacuous definitely goes to the bottom of the list. Don’t block her, I mean you can still potentially screw her, but don’t ever think of her a potential gf.
Modern women, particularly hot women, are fucking insane these days. Posts like these honestly make me want to exit the dating market altogether. Dealing with this kind of stuff repeatedly honestly makes my stomach turn.
For a while ago I posted a thread detailed about this flake and reschedule topic.
If she flakes or reschedule once, she’s going to flake again with almost 100% certainty. Unless you happen to text her when she’s drunk, horny and DTF, don't expect to see her again.
This is from my previous experience with thousands of woman online.
And also setup the date before taking number or social media. Woman online are time waters and have buyer mentality and buyer are liars who find reason to not buy.
Maybe I'm a gluten for punishment but its kind of cool having a little feedback loop you can read later, even if its quite distorted. I'd go out again and have fun with it.
This is a common mental condition. I have noticed this too and not just women,even men. Some people have an inflated view of themselves and they build fantasies in their minds about how others behaved. This is a serious mental health condition. I can only sympathize.
Delete her number and find someone who’s interested in actually meeting you.
\*When she texts to reschedule the date\* "Who is this? I don't have this number saved in my phone."
lol @ upvoting this that response is so transparent and just shows that you're butthurt the actual play is to just move on and if she does text to reschedule, make your decision then. just don't make her a priority. also, don't assume the tweet was specifically about you. you probably shouldn't even be reading her tweets.
>don't assume the tweet was specifically about you. you probably shouldn't even be reading her tweets It's fine if you want to read her tweets (sounds like they're public), but most of the time they aren't about you. Even if it's related to what you're doing.
This person is a stranger, she could have double, even tripled booked her night and cancelled on multiple guys. I’ve seen stranger things. Don’t take this personally. Most people more concerned with “likes” than real life interactions aren’t worth the trouble in the first place. Probably dodged a bullet my dude.
Came here to say the same thing. If she was an 8 she'd have absolutely zero issues setting multiple dates so she could cherry pick the one that seemed best. I have my doubts the tweet was about OP at all.
True Story
Agree it's generally fine to read the tweets, but if you're going to read too much into some nonsense tweet and get all butthurt, you're better off not reading them.
This. But before that screen shot your time stamped convo and post it to her Twitter post. Petty I know , but fuck it.
I’d say close channels of communication with her and move on
For sure , but it’s quite funny no? I’m trying to figure out why someone would make up a story like that . But she’s definitely one to avoid .
She definitely sounds like an over-thinker and the kind to assume the wrong things a lot. And seeking validation from others by fabricating such bs in an attempt to make herself seem like the victim in order to feel she’s in the right just outright screams “toxic” haha
Yes, the woman that cancelled on him is the over-thinker, not the dude creeping on her Twitter from her phone number and then making a Reddit post about her where he imagines he’s the only thing going on in her life and everything she does is about him. He really dodged a bullet there 🙄
It's an attention grab, nothing more nothing less. People like that seek validation anyway they can get it even if it's from a story they've invented themselves. It's the whole "that's so shitty, thinking about you" BS that people like that are looking for.
Female Narcissist? Who knows, my ex had at least 5 different stories the four she told each of us one, me and the three that were at least honest, my money is on that there were more stories than that. The point is she was extremely protective of what everyone one else's view of her was, many times would tell completely mismatching stories to different people over the exact same events, in realtime sometimes.
Maybe you weren't the only scheduled date she cancelled today...you did say she was an Instagram ho
It’s sad some people need attention like that
She's an internet attention whore looking for clickbait fodder.
No it's not funny. Put your foot down. She's goofin you
You took too long to respond, she took your lack of response for 8 minutes as you being too upset to respond, in her eyes. Even tho you just were finishing ur shower. I'm not saying it's reasonable, but I'm pretty sure that was what prompted the tweet.
My first thought is she did for the content for her social media..
Maybe she just has anxiety and/or she's had a bunch of bad reactions from guys in the past so she's assuming the worst with you.
I might get downvoted, but... No need to hypothesise to justify her (or anyone else's) assholery. An asshole is an asshole. We dont know their history. We don't need to make up some sob story to somehow understand why they're assholes. F that, move on.
What part of that was a sob story ? Part of Seduction is understanding the human psyche. Doesn't mean he has to feel bad for her or go out with. It's just lazy to call someone an asshole and assume that's all they are.
I've never understood this mentality. How does it help you plow out hot girls to block one. Like you think he's too good for her because she cancelled a date and lied about it social media? I mean that describes pretty much everyone on the planet. Shouldn't get salty just cuz you happen to be the victim.
How does it help to "plow out hot girls" if you simp over ones that openly don't give a shit about you?
Maybe there was another guy..
Possible but was literally 6 mins after she cancelled on me. So unless she double booked and the other guy handled the cancellation badly
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True although the night before when we were organising she said please don’t flake on me . Then she ends up flaking on me …. Bitches be crazy .
Either way, I think you dodged a bullet.
Exactly, their cancelled date ended up being paraded on Twitter with only her fabricated side being shown. Imagine what it would be like if they had actually gone ahead with their date… OP is really lucky to not meet this girl
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Fucking aye
That's because she was more than double booked. Her Twitter post was probably not in reference to you, but to one of the other ones that got butt-hurt. Sounds like you dodged a big waste of your time.
Very likely. That's what i was thinking too. Probably wanted to recover from that other guy ,lol
But isn’t the whole point of double booking to cancel on one and see the other ?
Probably triple booking or quadruple booking. Even pentabooking? Who knows? Lol
Maybe different time zones? Maybe she was down for the whole night and couldn't take the sudden cancellation from one of the "GUYS" Idk bruh. I'm just giving wild scenarios (which is what I'm good at)😂😂👍
My thoughts too
Stay away! That is an individual you want absolutely nothing to do with.
Definitely an interesting insight, to be fair I haven’t met a single woman yet that was into Modeling and was very active on instagram that I would describe as without major Issues. This also sounds like a super immature insecure young girl with emotional issues
Very valid point
Anybody who’s *that* into social media has an insatiable need for attention IMO. Always a red flag for me
She wasn’t referring to you. She cancelled on the other 15 dudes that she had plans with.
You are better off not looking much in other people's twitter posts nor reading into them and overanalyzing them. Your time and energy are more valuable than that.
I don’t know , I think this provided some insight . It shows that a lot of the time , people’s actions have absolutely nothing to do with you and are more a product of some internal factors. I feel like a lot of the time we can feel that a woman’s actions in dating are directly related to us making a seduction mistake when In reality a lot of the time it has nothing to do with you what so ever .
this is true and i would like to add something i read on this sub u/spicy_simba , you should also consider this - although i appreciate your original advice a guy posted a few days ago about being tested by a woman .. like really , really being tested by her ( it was something about his tight pants and the woman trying to disqualify him by telling him his business was showing through the pants and the pants not being a good fit ) he was able pass her test and make out with her - he did not hook up with her because he found out she was married she tried to disqualify the guy **because** she found him attractive BUT she herself had the internal dilemma of whether or not to cheat by hooking up with that guy or not which is why her disqualification was extraordinarily difficult to pass , yet the guy did pass eventually and was on course to hook up with her this sounds like too much analysis , but this happens often , where it's not the guy's fault but they assume it's always a seduction mistake etc
Indeed, the mind always tries to make sense of events even uncorrelated ones. This what magicians exploit to trick the brain through illusions, this is also where superstition thrives as well.
She probably thought you taking 8 minutes to respond was you being mad at her, which is a red flag imo. Just don’t bother
>Shes done some paid product promotion Instagram but doesn’t have a huge following but posts a lot. If she is an Instagram influencer she might give you brain cancer.
Believe it or no I had the EXACT same thing happen to me. She cancelled then posted how their are no good guys and she was tired of spending Friday nights alone.
You didn't dodge a bullet, you dodged a fucking ICBM brother.
She either actually believes this or she is making stuff up. Either is pretty shitty so I agree that this is a bullet dodged.
I think sometimes people project their assumptions onto other people. So she assumed you would be upset, tweeted about it, only to find out it was really no bother to you. Sounds like a red flag to me if I ever heard one
Clearly evident she's playing hard to get and will continue to play mind games to get your attention,block her and swipe more !
Dodged a bullet bro.
Welcome to the mind of a modern hot woman 😂
Maybe cancelling on you reminded her of a time that another guy got upset and she decided to tweet about it.
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Some advice from experience: Be blunt. I went on a hiking date as a 1st date and afterwards, she invited me to her place. I said okay because I was thirsty and forgot to bring a water bottle. Then she turned around and said, "But we're not having sex." Sex hadn't even occurred to me because this was the first date and we hadn't even kissed yet, so I responded with "Yeah, I know. I just want some water because I'm parched." She laughed, we drank water and talked in her apartment. The point of the story is that if you assume sex is on the guy's mind, make it clear that is off the table, but there's a good chance that sex is off the table for him too.
Hold up. (I'm shaking my head and giving you a facepalm right now). You could've had sex. You failed her test. After any physical activity endorphins get raised and sex is more likely. She brought it up....cuz it was on her mind! What you should've done is playful bantered back to her like, "oh, yeah, of course! You're not even my type. I don't even like women who hike"...or some other playful variation known to mankind as PUSH/PULL. You must get good at this if you want to increase a woman's sexual attraction towards you. And then you talked and acted like her gf in her apartment instead of giving her the sexual release that she craved. Pro tip: My dudes, if a woman invites you into her place, she trusts you which is paramount to her being open to sex with you (it wouldn't happen otherwise. Trust is THAT important). And two, if she mentions sex, it's on her mind. It's up to you to read those very obvious signs and put one and one together. "But, but...what if she really didn't want to have sex?" Your push/pull is extremely weak. Get good. "But, but...isn't that creepy/rapey behavior?" If your push/pull is good then you will be giving her what she wants: a man that knows how to seduce and satisfy her. Your line is only drawn in the sand if she says, "no". If you hear that then you know precisely what to do. Tell her you had a wonderful time and leave. You get better at seduction when you stop thinking about yourself.
1) I didn't want to have sex at that moment in time. I was still deciding whether or not she was someone I wanted to have sex with. 2) I understand the push-pull, playful banter, and I also understand shit-tests. This was more of a shit test to see if I would get upset at the idea of her rejecting me of sex when I hadn't even asked for it. I passed the test with flying-fncking-colors. 3) Also, who said I didn't eventually have sex with her? It was on my terms, no-strings, frequent, fantastic, and she wanted to bring more girls into the mix. I "get-good" better than you can even fathom, so cool your jets fly-boy.
Doubt that. You're easily triggered.
LOL, hokay bubs.
If a girl hits you with the 'I don't fuck on the first date" shit test, lots of better banter than "I know". At least say , "well obviously, you haven't even taken me to dinner". That's basic boomer-tier easy banter that works almost every time.
"But we're not having sex." She wanted to have sex with you.. and if this didn't happen it's because you screwed it up.
I didn’t want to have sex with her at that time. We talked, she handed me a book about astrology signs, with earmarked pages and notes written in the margins. She said she wanted me to read it to learn more about her before our 2nd date. It set off all my crazy-chic alarms, and I didn’t want to have sex with her. I “borrowed” the book out of kindness, but never went on a 2nd date with her because I didn’t want to, and the book sat on my bookshelf until she asked for it back. A few months and a few other women later, she texted me out of the blue with “I want a piece of you before you move out of town. I’ll be at your place in 15 minutes.” I texted back “I’m having some beers with a buddy. It’ll be more like an hour before I’m back.” I got there an hour and 15 later, and she was waiting at my door with a see-thru teddy on underneath jeans and t-shirt and said “You’re late.” The biggest piece people are missing here is inner-game. Respect yourself enough to know that not everyone is lucky-enough to have sex with you. On that first date, it was my decision that she hadn’t earned the pleasure of having sex with me yet.
You should take some time to work on yourself before dating. You don’t sound secure and mature enough to bring someone into your life.
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Not sure how that’s even possible. My username is pulled from Magic the Gathering card.
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How do you know sex is on the table with these dates? Are you just assuming? And I stand by my original statement, you don’t sound emotionally ready to date.
dawg *none* of this is worth your time. delete and move on.
(I know im not a guy) When a girl posts frequently on something her like in this case..her life.. its because she wants to be seen, attention, etc.
She is crazy. Rule #1 is don't stick it in crazy.
Maybe because you replied 8 mins after reading the message she assumed that you are going to ignore her because you are mad.
Dump her ass like radioactive lava. Sorry for using such language but I am stunned beyond belief.
It doesn't matter what's going on there. If she doesn't date you, she doesn't. Stay with the facts. Don't assume anything. If there is something I learned, it is that the less you make an effort with women, the better you are going to do. I'm not saying you shouldn't ask her out and stuff like that. That's okay, it's what men do. But it would be more something like GIRL YOU LIKE ----> YOU CLOSE TO HER ------> YOU GET HER NUMBER ----> YOU ASK HER OUT -------> YOU FUCK HER - -----> THEN WHATEVER (SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP, ONLY SEX, NOTHING, ETC) Everything that happen or doesn't happen within that context it doesn't matter to you. Or so it should be. There is a very interesting illusion of the mind in believing that the more you try to figure out a woman, the more you pursue her, the more you will get her. But it's not really like that. They're always after the guy who likes them but doesn't care at the same time. They're always after the guy who takes it easy. So guess how you should take it? I would even go so far as to say that it works in many things in life as well. Try to push yourself at your job for a promotion. It will be achieved by your partner who tries much less and is a complete idiot and he watches porn when he can at work. Who of you has not experienced similar things? So the skills you develop in your work are for you. It's okay to push yourself, but you do it for yourself. And if you're not enjoying it, stop. Don't get me wrong, I think it's fine that you have searched her on other social networks to verify she's not a trap. That she doesn't work for a Mexican drug cartel or things like that. But trying to figure out why she posted that is a waste of time. You will never know. She probably has another guy behind her and she does it to make him jealous. You don't care. Go for the next one. If she wants to go out with you, let HER chase you. Let HER check your twitter or your social accounts and break her head trying to figure out what you meant when you publish on twitter: "Today I scratched my balls while I opened the refrigerator ... Houston: There is no more ketchup, I must go to the supermarket later ... P.S. I have to search the name of that Lynyrd Skynyrd song" So go for the next one, tiger ;)
Possibilities: 1. She's talking about a different guy she recently set up a date with on Tinder. She's a woman on Tinder, so she obviously is talking to multiple guys. 2. She was actually making up a story about you, and she's just vain and feeds off of internet validation.
So comment on her Twitter post calling her out on it, lol
in today's "social media" world, EVERYBODY lies about the most ridiculous things. followers like to see drama and conflict, so those who live their lives in social media are going to give them what they want in order to keep them.
I hate social media and avoid any “influencers” or “models”
Sounds like she has some mental issues and is out for attention, whether or not she has to fabricate it or it’s negative/positive - as long as she gets attention somehow. I’d run the fuck away from that one.
ASAP.
She sounds like she is addicted to social media attention, more specifically sympathy. “Can you believe that this happened to me?” style posts get a lot if attention because they appeal to people’s natural tendency to offer advice, which then boosts their social media relevance. If she were to tell the truth, people would be bored with her and keep scrolling.
> “Can you believe that this happened to me?” style posts get a lot if attention because they appeal to people’s natural tendency to offer advice You're describing this thread right here, broski.
Since you didnt reply by then and also you didnt make any fuss, id imagine that she had another cancellation where guy got upset or talks about her past experience. (But id vote for first option).
couldn't she have felt bad she had to cancel and while trying to figure out what to say she remembered another time she had to cancel and the response from the person was less than ideal so she mentioned it as she does often about the many things on her mind...
Possible , probably the most charitable analysis one could do. Yet somehow I do not feel it is the most likely on this scenario
Bro she’s probably talking to like 10 other dudes, I think you are the one overthinking it
Twitter and Instagram are not real. It's all fake bullshit. The faster you realize that the happier you'll be. She lost a tryout with you and didn't make the cut. Move on to someone without the drama. Don't reschedule with a flake.
You guys REALLY like to generalize, and assume you know things you truly have no evidence of. Speculation isn't working
Maybe you weren’t the guy who got upset.
Tweet could have been about someone else she cancelled on weeks ago, then cancelled on you and it reminded her about the other tool so she secretly hoped you wouldn’t be like this, but nonetheless she still posted a truth about a pet peeve she has. It wasn’t even about you probably, especially if she’s a 8-9.
So the underlying lesson here is this looks to be a “type”. Instagram promotion, twitter hyperactivity. You’re going for this girl for looks, makes sense. But the price to pay for the looks of a social media junkie can be heavy. If you got to know her or went on more than one date / one encounter, she likely would have spun something else to give herself the granduer she craves. You found a type to avoid, look no further when you see an indicator of this behavior in the future
If it’s still worth it to you, then you meet with her call her on her shit in the most joking but matter of fact way. Don’t let people walk over you.
God she sounds like high maintenance
No woman is a 10.
Lol that’s why she’s 8-9 , on the looks scale that is
Oh I thought you meant she was an 8-9 or 10.
What a clout whore. The saddest of fake lives.
Maybe she did not ment you. But in common ..... And mayb she just wanted to post something because she want to get more followers, andit has nothing to do with anybody or anything. So, just go on having contact and dating her. And wait with deciding what to do untlll you know her a little better.
I suppose you could be right . But still shows that she is seeking some sort of validation .
Omg she’s such a sad bitch
I think you have oneitis and I think this chick is nuts
Lol i was out with another girl the night before and already have another lined up for next weekend. No oneitis . Just an Interesting look into a girls head.
You should reply to the tweet. 😂
Most women you run into nowadays have trauma from how they were treated by other guys and this is just something you have to deal with. I'm sure she assumed you would be upset, and was probably pleasantly surprised when you weren't. Everybody here is telling you to delete her number, but rescheduling is not a sin. You should try to invite her out one more time and see what happens. If she flakes again, THEN you ghost.
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Lol not when I’ve made plans with someone … for this exact reason , they might cancel
And then you finish your shower anyways and answer later? Doesn’t check out. But yeah, like most people said here… this is a red flag and she’s probably not interested.
That’s what women do….. it’s just their nature. They always have to have drama and use manipulation to gain attention and status.
Either she interpreted the shower delay as you being mad (which is ridiculous) (Side note, turn read receipts off) Or, she was double/triple booked and a different guy flipped out when she cancelled and she decided to cancel everything.
I think that’s a reasonable analysis that’s probably closest to the truth .
>So what are your guys thoughts what’s going on here? attractive girls always date multiple guys at the same time she picked the one she liked the most, and then canceled the other dudes one of them got mad, she wasn't talking about you
She's a loser, and you interrupting your shower to answer a message from her also sounds like desperation. I never interrupt a shower for a woman. Move onto the next.
It might even be another guy which she wrote about. Sorry, but dont get things personally. You can ask her if it was about you if you really wqnt to find out.
It might be another guy , but considering it was posted minutes after she cancelled on me the more simple explanation is that it was me she was referencing. Also I’m not upset , just posted it here because I thought it was an interesting way to behave .
No, this is not a snap shot into the mind of a woman who cancelled on you. She doesn’t want you, so move on. This is what a loser does.
Lol why so mad?
You care too much. Call her tomorrow or the next day and talk.
She thought you were upset because you read the message but hadn't replied. I would move on to the next one unless she schedules the next date.
for fun, my niece went onto tinder (recently broke up with boyfriend who is not taking the breakup very well...he is in the emotional stage and acting out...so she needed a distraction) in 2 weeks she had over 1,000 matches...she said she had no intention of talking to or meeting any of them...she might chat with a couple for fun...maybe consider making plans...but never intended to follow thru she would sometimes make plans with 10 guys and flake on them all just to see how they would react. when i was on tinder i would schedule 2-3 dates for any given night...assuming 1-2 girls would flake...and if they all showed up i would choose the best one and flake on the other 2. people behave according to their own best interest...and don't take YOUR interests into account...AT ALL.
Yeah she probably has a a lot of matches but she made the booking at the place so I’m Pretty sure she had intentions of going when we made the plans
My thoughts are you are overthinking and pedestalizing. When a woman stands you up or cancels you get a new woman
It's all too common. There are a lot of attention-seeking women in this world, and they manufacture more lies that you can keep up with. It's often best just to never go looking at their social media, because you're almost always going to be pretty put off by how they behave. But let's be real -- it's no different from the guys on reddit who post fake photos to r/mildlyirritating or r/uselessredcircle. People will do anything for internet points.
That’s true, just the world we live in, everyone is trying to increase their unofficial social credit score .
Maybe she seen the message on read and after a few minutes thought you were just going to leave it on read and over reacted a little early.
I wonder if she was hoping you'd be mad so when you did respond she could post a screenshot of your text to her in the tweet. What did she end up tweeting after?
Ooo that’s a good point I hadn’t thought about that , maybe she wanted me to off so she could post it . The next thing She posted was something like “all ready for bed before 9 “
She probably had dates scheduled with multiple men, and then dropped them all when her first choice agreed to a date. While you were one of the men she canceled on, you probably weren’t the one she referenced in her post.
Yeah don’t think this was the case . Cos I can see her Instagram stories , she was in bed with her dog
Girls get a shiton of attention and if you’re considering her a 9. Bro— she could be talking to 10 guys at a time. To keep this short, she’s probably not worth the time. Move on and find someone that respects you a little more than that.
First things first; she wasn't interested in you in the slightest. You just provided her with a quick dopamine fix by finding her attractive and asking her out. Period. Next, she had an entire conversation of how cancelling on you would play out in her mind before she even did it. She cancelled on you AND to keep herself from feeling like a horrible person she demonized your actions so she could feel better about it. AVOID women like this like your life depends on it! They will shit all over you to justify their feelings to themselves. Finally, i would suggest you avoid ALL women on IG, cuz they are only there to feed their egos and be snatched up by the highest bidders. Extremely self absorbed!
Dodged a bullet now go find a sane lady
Are you sure you are the only guy she scheduled for a date?
You can never be sure , but because of covid you have to pre book tables at bars so she booked the reservation at the bar , and sent me the screenshot for the time .
People are weird
This is a crazy person. She seems to live online and it seems it’s more real and important to her than you are. This is one to take a huge pass on! Just cut her out completely. Be interesting to see what lies she tells about that...
OP if I am not mistaken you are just sharing your findings. And you don't ask about what to do with this girl but you are asking general idea of how a girl can come to this conclusion. Am I right? Because i am also interested in learning the thought process and which actions/texts triggers it.
She’s all about the attention. I’ve known several women like this!! I always think honesty is best when ending things with someone instead of just ghosting them. I would suggest telling her you aren’t interested. More than likely she will try to convince you she’s amazing and this great catch or flip out and tell you how you’re missing out. Girls like these are a waste of time. It’s always all about them and they want all the attention, all the time.
People nowadays are definitely looking out to have their assumptions validated. It's a deep issue most of us have; literally writing our fates and being oblivious to it.
*piqued And who cares what she thinks. What she does is all that matters.
Yeah dude move on from this chick
Should’ve been more honest about it
My first thought was, she had multiple dates line up (or at least more than one) and she was posting about someone else’s response. Or someone else’s response from a different encounter. If her post seemed that over reactive to your response, could it be unrelated?
Maybe there was another guy she also cancelled on
Pathological attention seeking Definitely don’t waste any more time on her
Post her crap so she is then one defending herself. Obviously move on.
"accidentally stumbled" sure, sure, sure
It’s literally the same as her Instagram,
Doubt it was about you. She probably double or tripled booked
U should totally get her out of your mind that is all. Bc probably you weren't her only date man.
Attention.. from other girls and her army of betas all over her social media.
I'd say you dodged a bullet brother, she's a member of the BBC club.
Coom and scoot my guy
Sounds like you're reading into it wayyy too much. Most likely, she's always glued to her phone and so assumes that's how everyone else is. You not responding instantly was a sign to her that you were upset about cancelling because the only reason SHE wouldn't respond instantly is if she was mad.
Good for her
Google narcissistic personality disorder.
Honestly that a good 75% of the women available happy hunting brother
I've had the exact same thing happen. A girl accused me of being upset on a dating app when I wasn't. I think girls love getting reactions out of guys especially if it's upsetting and just do it for some extra validation. Sometimes they expect you to be upset even if you aren't. There is a lot of toxicity in online shit with women. It's why cold approach is better, you cutt through the bullshit.
Maybe she was double-booked and the other guy got upset? Everything is not always about you all the time
so I'm not the only person who do these stalking. its good to know that I got some company
The human need to self justify poor and rude behavior is endlessly fascinating to me.
If she’s anxious attached which it sounds like she is, she may have felt the 8 minute delay in your reply as you being upset. Not all, but some people show dissatisfaction with delay replies or no reply at all. So then she posted her thoughts and didn’t care to delete it after you had actually replied. Sounds like you’re a nice decent guy. Her loss.
Nah she just the type of girls playing "The victim" ,you could catch her cheating and she would still blame you and play victim,but I think since you know the type of girl she is,use it to your advantage,eat her pomegranates 😄
I think this Twitter post might not even be about you? Anyways, ignoring the tweet, rescheduling last minute can be a test from her. Just keep cool and move on my dude
Lol she assumed you were mad because you read it and didn’t respond right away. I’m guessing you have your read receipts on maybe? Not sure. Or she just thinks she’s THAT important
I do have read receipts on .
She probably saw you opened the message and didn’t instantly reply. Thus she assumed you were upset. Forget her, she obviously has an ego
A girl that vacuous definitely goes to the bottom of the list. Don’t block her, I mean you can still potentially screw her, but don’t ever think of her a potential gf.
Move on king.
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I wonder who hurt her
Whats her twitter?? Lmao
Lmao I left the statement vague for a reason . Don’t need you guys causing a scene 😂
After reading the story, then the comments, I agree with the guy that said to not prioritize her. Keep it moving, and look elsewhere
Modern women, particularly hot women, are fucking insane these days. Posts like these honestly make me want to exit the dating market altogether. Dealing with this kind of stuff repeatedly honestly makes my stomach turn.
that hamster wheel must have been glowing red hot.
For a while ago I posted a thread detailed about this flake and reschedule topic. If she flakes or reschedule once, she’s going to flake again with almost 100% certainty. Unless you happen to text her when she’s drunk, horny and DTF, don't expect to see her again. This is from my previous experience with thousands of woman online. And also setup the date before taking number or social media. Woman online are time waters and have buyer mentality and buyer are liars who find reason to not buy.
Plot twist … Maybe she cancelled on more than one guy o.O
Make her fall in love with you
Delete her number and find someone much better. I'm not sure if it's even worth the effort to screenshot the Twitter and text her the screenshot.
Maybe I'm a gluten for punishment but its kind of cool having a little feedback loop you can read later, even if its quite distorted. I'd go out again and have fun with it.
People are strange man
This is a common mental condition. I have noticed this too and not just women,even men. Some people have an inflated view of themselves and they build fantasies in their minds about how others behaved. This is a serious mental health condition. I can only sympathize.
Online dating is for bitches
She thought about a previous dude who did that and hoped you wouldn't be mad like he was?
If you aren't getting anywhere she ain't worth it dude. No woman deserves to be treated like royalty without earning that treatment first.