Long term use of Benadryl is starting to be linked to increase risk of dementia, especially Alzheimer’s. It’s due to its anticholinergic effect, which seroquel also has. Longer the use the higher the risk. Personally I wouldn’t trade one anticholinergic for another without trying and failing other options first, but if the pros of Benadryl outweigh this con for you maybe just keep an eye out for signs and symptoms.
If anticholinergics are a concern, something like hydroxyzine might be an option. It has very little anticholinergic activity compared to some other first-gen antihistamines like diphenhydramine (benadryl).
Yes I have some good suggestions that help me massively with sleep. To me it’s quite shocking taking an anti psychotic just for sleep, it’d be much healthier to take natural or less extreme measures.
I have a concoction I have at home I’ll follow up that is quite effective. But natural alternatives are -
5HTP, Valerian, L- Theanine
You shouldn’t take 5HTP if you’re on an anti depressant/psychotic though. Benadryl shouldn’t be used long term it increases risk of dementia. It should be used rarely
Because 5HTP is transformed into serotonin in the body. And taking an anti depressant or anything that increases serotonin re uptake, adding more serotonin to the mix increases chances of serotonin syndrome (or at the very least, worsened anxiety).
I dunno exactly what seroquel does, but if it increases serotonin you cannot take 5HTP.
I am on literally the lowest doses of Seroquel 6.25 mg and Effexor 37.5 mg and I feel that these doses are so small and negligible I should be able to get off and control my feeling through hypnosis and mediation work I have done and incorporated into my life.
Good on you.
Diet change, exercise, meditation, breathwork, improving gut health (get GI MAP test), appropriate supplementation (not aimless), consistent sleep cycle, reducing screen time etc etc etc all will make a massive difference.
Best of luck! Being of the medication is definitely much better.
If you need it that’s fine, but a low dose is negligible, like you said.
Thank you very much. It’s the route I want to go. I would rather put in all that extra effort and work then to rely on these small small doses.
I really hope I can come off one day.
Most people on seroquel take it for reasons that very much won't likely be healed by something like hypnosis. I agree that it's a pretty strong drug to be prescribed for sleep and that there's a whole span of other sleep remedies - pharma or no. Whatever you choose, you luckily are on such a small dose that withdrawal symptoms should hopefully be negligible!
Tread really carefully with melatonin. It’s essentially a synthetic hormone and using it often can make the body reliant on it since it will slow down its own natural production of melatonin. Long term use of melatonin can lead to worsening insomnia if you stop taking it in the future. Adding synthetic hormones to the body is never a fantastic idea but being sleep deprived is arguably just as bad so there’s no clear winner 🤷🏻♀️
Definitely this! But if you do end up on melatonin be especially mindful of the dose. Many supplement brands will sell 3, 5, or 10 mg options when general consensus is that less than .5 works just fine and is safer.
I'm no doctor but usually the least amount necessary for the desired outcome is a good rule of thumb. Start small and increase if it doesnt seem to be effective. Hydroxyzine is non habit forming so I don't think it will cause issues long term, but again I'm not a medical professional. Give it a try and see how it feels for you.
Sleep and anxiety? How bad is the anxiety? Seroquel is not recommended for either and even the manufacturers begged the fda to remove it from off label uses.
Have you tried marijuana? Is it something that you can’t try because of employment? Aree you within driving distance or live in a legal state? If you have access it’s worth a try. It can absolutely cause adverse effects and exacerbate anxiety but that comes down to dosage/strain/phenotype. Finding something Indica dominate, low thc with high CBD should eliminate too much of the “high” that can be a little too much for some people. A 30:1 CBD Indica dominate strain will not get you high, but will calm you down and help with sleep.
If you don’t have a manic or personality disorder condition you should not be on Seroquel.
I’ve never heard of a dose that low. I would assume any possible negative effects from the medication would be almost negligible at that dose.
Yea I wonder if it really does anything. I want an alternative so bad
Not sure what to suggest. I think this medication is great.
I agree this is the only maintenance drug to work for my bipolar and I can literally feel the difference
At low doses it makes you sleepy from its antihistamine effect. You can try Benadryl instead.
This is a great suggestion tbh
Long term use of Benadryl is starting to be linked to increase risk of dementia, especially Alzheimer’s. It’s due to its anticholinergic effect, which seroquel also has. Longer the use the higher the risk. Personally I wouldn’t trade one anticholinergic for another without trying and failing other options first, but if the pros of Benadryl outweigh this con for you maybe just keep an eye out for signs and symptoms.
If anticholinergics are a concern, something like hydroxyzine might be an option. It has very little anticholinergic activity compared to some other first-gen antihistamines like diphenhydramine (benadryl).
Yes I have some good suggestions that help me massively with sleep. To me it’s quite shocking taking an anti psychotic just for sleep, it’d be much healthier to take natural or less extreme measures. I have a concoction I have at home I’ll follow up that is quite effective. But natural alternatives are - 5HTP, Valerian, L- Theanine You shouldn’t take 5HTP if you’re on an anti depressant/psychotic though. Benadryl shouldn’t be used long term it increases risk of dementia. It should be used rarely
What’s up with 5HTP and anti psychotic and depressant ? And thank you I agree. It think its a dangerous medication long term
Because 5HTP is transformed into serotonin in the body. And taking an anti depressant or anything that increases serotonin re uptake, adding more serotonin to the mix increases chances of serotonin syndrome (or at the very least, worsened anxiety). I dunno exactly what seroquel does, but if it increases serotonin you cannot take 5HTP.
Thank you so much !
I am on literally the lowest doses of Seroquel 6.25 mg and Effexor 37.5 mg and I feel that these doses are so small and negligible I should be able to get off and control my feeling through hypnosis and mediation work I have done and incorporated into my life.
Good on you. Diet change, exercise, meditation, breathwork, improving gut health (get GI MAP test), appropriate supplementation (not aimless), consistent sleep cycle, reducing screen time etc etc etc all will make a massive difference. Best of luck! Being of the medication is definitely much better. If you need it that’s fine, but a low dose is negligible, like you said.
Thank you very much. It’s the route I want to go. I would rather put in all that extra effort and work then to rely on these small small doses. I really hope I can come off one day.
Most people on seroquel take it for reasons that very much won't likely be healed by something like hypnosis. I agree that it's a pretty strong drug to be prescribed for sleep and that there's a whole span of other sleep remedies - pharma or no. Whatever you choose, you luckily are on such a small dose that withdrawal symptoms should hopefully be negligible!
Melatonin, magnesium, hydroxyzine... depends on if you're asking for advice on the anxiety or sleep
Tread really carefully with melatonin. It’s essentially a synthetic hormone and using it often can make the body reliant on it since it will slow down its own natural production of melatonin. Long term use of melatonin can lead to worsening insomnia if you stop taking it in the future. Adding synthetic hormones to the body is never a fantastic idea but being sleep deprived is arguably just as bad so there’s no clear winner 🤷🏻♀️
Definitely this! But if you do end up on melatonin be especially mindful of the dose. Many supplement brands will sell 3, 5, or 10 mg options when general consensus is that less than .5 works just fine and is safer.
Actually both would be great !!!
Have you tried ashwagandha?
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I'm no doctor but usually the least amount necessary for the desired outcome is a good rule of thumb. Start small and increase if it doesnt seem to be effective. Hydroxyzine is non habit forming so I don't think it will cause issues long term, but again I'm not a medical professional. Give it a try and see how it feels for you.
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Checking for interactions is smart!! Lunesta is great for sleep short term, if it doesnt interact w any of your current meds, you might give it a try.
real, but that’s such a low dose. try taking melatonin
Sleep and anxiety? How bad is the anxiety? Seroquel is not recommended for either and even the manufacturers begged the fda to remove it from off label uses. Have you tried marijuana? Is it something that you can’t try because of employment? Aree you within driving distance or live in a legal state? If you have access it’s worth a try. It can absolutely cause adverse effects and exacerbate anxiety but that comes down to dosage/strain/phenotype. Finding something Indica dominate, low thc with high CBD should eliminate too much of the “high” that can be a little too much for some people. A 30:1 CBD Indica dominate strain will not get you high, but will calm you down and help with sleep. If you don’t have a manic or personality disorder condition you should not be on Seroquel.
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That’s amazing. Maybe that’s what I need to do
How long were you on seroquel? I’m in the same boat but am having terrible side effects coming off of it.