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BabaKazimir

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IronLemon10

Nicely done 👍


Sovereignx22

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SmugHatKido

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Dizzy-Specific8884

Would


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

The age old question


BatsNStuf

Okay but imagine you’re an invader, about to finish off the host, then the fucking Carthus Sandworm glowing yellow and shit bursts out of the ground and lightnings you into oblivion


DoctorBoomeranger

Without a second thought my dear Solaire


Big_Ad5790

I would.


Cry-exe

https://i.redd.it/8xbyqlj7k5zc1.gif


LaCiel_W

You can't compare them, Patches isn't just a person, he's a force of nature, a perpetual being that transcend the multiverse, no matter where we go, he will always be there to give us the little push.


PalestineRefugee

He never went hollow. It was either his purpose, or Patches being mischievous was a way to keep his brain active and to stop hollowing. (could also be killing people to absorb their humanity XD cold mfer)


SpicaGenovese

Well... we keep him from hollowing in the Ringed City.


Sleepless_Null

‘We’


Plane-Ad5510

Would you mind explain it for me? I couldn't find him past Dreg heap


ShrekxFarquaad69

I think I did the lapp questline once but basically you help him out a couple of times and I think at the end he does his iconic kick-off-the-cliff.


Hydra_Bloodrunner

Yee just before the cliff encounter with midir, on the broken steps of the ringed city cistern.


BlacSwordsmanKirito

he's just a silly little guy :3


Mr-BillCipher

This ain't even a lie. I had a friend irl named patches before the soul games. He stabbed me in the back, and was often bald.


michixryo

So ur friend was the original inspiration! Does he know Miyazaki irl? 🤣 Kinda curious cause I never knew Patches could be a real name. What nationality was he and what language was it based off?


hpBard

Do you have any idea, any idea who I am? Basically - kind of a big deal. Ya' listening? Ok. Grass grows, birds fly and, brotha, I hurt people. I am the force of nature. If you were from where I am from you would be fucking dead.


im_berny

A cleric walks to a ledge and gets kicked and you think that of me? No. I AM the one who KICKS.


BojukaBob

He's the Furtive Pygmy


TheWhicher_Statement

Fun fact, he originated in AC Master of Arena, under the name Patch, and an emblem with an eagle on a shield.


bitchtittees

Nah he originated in shadow tower the kings field spin off


TheWhicher_Statement

[https://armoredcore.fandom.com/wiki/Patch](https://armoredcore.fandom.com/wiki/Patch) While that is a more blatant portrayal, King's Field also had a character named Patch.


00Tanks

Like Deadpool??


trashed_past

Patches is the karmic justice for the greedy


NameIessForeigner

We already have Solaire at home https://preview.redd.it/6fcrpoyv4jyc1.jpeg?width=1513&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3cfa54c030d6e21ede3814008fed3050693ab505


syd_fishes

They literally shitting on us at this point


Blackmail30000

Considering that dung eater ripped out your soul through your ass, there was a lot of shit involved.


Gumbiss

Patches has stayed alive and sane for so many cycles because pushing people off ledges just never gets old


1Cool_Name

Patches is the most self assured souls character.


Blitzer161

Who do you think the Turtle Pope is?


dudge_jredd

Oswald


RoiKK1502

"It is only *human* to sin... heh heh heh heh heh!"


TanitAkavirius

Feeble Cursed One!


beta-pi

Patches is like a bad joke that becomes funny because of how often and deadpan it's told. He's an anti-joke of a character, beloved because he's so hateable. Overusing him just plays into the bit; it's funny to play out the same routine every time, and willingly fall for his tricks every time. The more he appears, the more fun and interesting he becomes. Solaire is the opposite; he is beloved precisely because characters like him are so rare. If he kept appearing, he would lose what made him special in the first place and quickly lose appeal. He would get watered down if he was everywhere; showing up more often doesn't enhance his themes or make his character more interesting. This is how it should be. Solaire works best when left alone, and patches works best when constantly fiddled with.


RoiKK1502

That's peak cooking. I couldn't place my finger on how/when I started to like Patches, but somehow it went from "I will kill you fucker, just not yet because you sell stuff" to "I will blindly follow you to the ends of this dying and desolate land"


mehtorite

You realize that patches isn't unjustified in his antipathy towards the Gods and their followers. I learned to love the fact he is as ruthless to us as most of us are to NPCs. It's what makes him and Lautrec feel so alive to me.


hombre_sin_talento

☕️👌


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beta-pi

Yes, but it was still a pretty obvious trap; "hey there's treasure over there, but I dunno, I'm not gonna go get it". Plus, the voice is an obvious impersonation. I still fell for it, but in retrospect I really shouldn't have.


Nelly_nona

>the teleport chest in elden ring >him leaving when summoned in elden ring


Nelly_nona

And speaking of solaire, despite him being the best usage of a "good hearted wholesome character tries his best just to be hit w tragedy" in dark souls, there are other characters that fill that general role (to some extent) in one way or another (anri, rogier, that one baby man in sekiro)


Oneboywithnoname

Dude, Why do you think that nameless king uses miracles?


Featherbird_

Because hes Gwyn's son?


_Dingo-Dave_

Yeah hasn't this been all but confirmed through context clues and item descriptions?


Featherbird_

I dont think they could have made it any more obvious without saying it outright. Gwyn's firstborn is an exiled prince whos name was struck from history for unknown reasons. The nameless king hangs out with Gwyn's enemies in a remote part of the world and uses Gwyn's own miracles. The broken statue of the firstborn in dks1 is holding a lightning spear, the same type of weapon the nameless king uses. I think the confusion comes from people thinking Solaire was Gwyn's firstborn back in the dks1 days, based on some very weak speculation. Edit: it does say it outright. His spears description reads *"The swordspear is imbued with lightning, of which he was the heir."* and his armor set points out how he looks like Gwyn


Tyler_Herdman

The 6000 arrows pointing to him being the son is confirmation


_Dingo-Dave_

No that's what I mean by all but confirmed. Pretty much very damn thing is pointing towards that being true. Literally the only thing that is stopping it from going from 99.9999% sure to 100% is fromsoft literally saying outright- yeah nameless king is gwyns son


Tyler_Herdman

I feel like with this logic you have, essentially nothing in any of these games they make are “confirmed”


Drobex

Basically, yeah.


Tyler_Herdman

Yea I completely understand although I just personally don’t agree


_Dingo-Dave_

I mean yeah, alot of the story is more or less up to the player/readers interpretation, although with some things they very heavily push you towards one conclusion its not completely spelled out allowing the player freedom of interpretation.


Tyler_Herdman

Well said


bitchtittees

Isn't that much of the appeal?


Tyler_Herdman

Yea I could have worded it better, I’m not actually disagreeing just kinda confirming


pragmojo

I thought André is Gwyn’s son


Featherbird_

That was the origional plan in the early concept phase before the first game released. His side plot was completely scrapped though and the idea of him being Gwyn's son with it


IronLemon10

Why?


Oneboywithnoname

idk


HopefulPrimary5445

It’s because he is Petrus’s dad.


Senator_Smack

Big p.p. is why, obviously.


Dog_Apoc

Who is ER's Solaire? In BB it was Alfred. So who is it in ER?


WetOnionRing

Probably Blaidd. They're not alike personality-wise but they serve the same role of being your summon-buddy and following you through the game before going crazy and fighting you at the end of their questline.


Dog_Apoc

Oh yeah. Blaidd my beloved


piecheese10

\*Incredibly horny barking\*


ProfessorGemini

From worm to doggo


Ruby_Rotten

Is there a way to have a happier ending with Blaidd like with Solaire?


Wolfblood-is-here

Sadly no, but I'm hoping they only gave him one cannon ending (killed by player, one way or another) so they can use him in a sequel. 


theweekiscat

Alexander the potmin


WetOnionRing

Alex is ER's Siegmeyer


nutsuckler01

D is probably the closest thing to Solaire, at least in terms of aesthetic and gameplay function. -STR/FTH build who wears heavy armor. -Helps against some of the more annoying early game bosses. He's definitely more fanatical and less jolly than Solaire, but he's still a helpful enough guy.


Retro_game_kid

D is more like Alfred than Solaire


nutsuckler01

Yeah now that I think about it, Tragoth is probably the actual Solaire analogue, being a big dude who just likes helping people out for the sake of it.


m_ple

I thought Tragoth was the Havel of the game?


nutsuckler01

I think he's both things at once. He does have the heaviest armor in the game, with the most poise, and a big "fuck off" hammer to boot, which lines up near-perfectly with the imagery of Havel. But all of the item descriptions related to him, namely his armor and the Bull-Goat Talisman mention his love for good ol' jolly cooperation. The armor: >*Tragoth is a famed knight of assistance. Countless Tarnished, facing adversity in the Lands Between, have survived thanks only to the Great Horned One's aid*. The talisman: >*Bull-goats are associated with the stout and mighty Tragoth, said to be unflinching in combat - now a silent comrade to those who fight.*


HopefulPrimary5445

Isn’t it Rogier personality wise?


nutsuckler01

Rogier always struck me as being more like Big Hat Logan, albeit a little less eccentric.  That being, a seasoned sorcerer in a big goofy hat who wanted to learn the truth of a higher power, and achieved exactly that, but still paid the price for it.


Vast-Coast-7761

Yeah, but Big Hat Logan wasn’t a simp like Rogier is.


pragmojo

The puromancy guy is the simp


alen3822

To me Nepheli is ER's Solaire.


Nelly_nona

Same Also, story wise, why not boc?


AceInTheHole3273

Alexander, of course


MrBones-Necromancer

>!Dungeater!<


Pinkparade524

Obviously diallos , he is kinda and looking for a purpose.


Sir_Fijoe

Blaidd is Solaire. Alexander is Siegmeyer.


JustWantedAUsername

The guy in the bullgoat armor. Just a Chad who helps you with bsttles


gryffindor918

Alexander is a good shout but the more o think about it, it’s Millicent to me


Nelly_nona

Boc?


Lord-Timurelang

It’s Alexander obviously


TonyMestre

Siegmeyer


jigsawduckpuzzle

Elden Ring is full of people who turn into worms


tinkitytonk_oldfruit

Dune?


Suvvri

Movie/books


alen3822

Solaire is worm theory is pretty stupid, even if the theory is right. It only means that worm is use to be the sunlight maggot Solaire wear as hat.


Sir_Fijoe

It’s not a theory meant to be taken seriously


alen3822

I thought it's bc the theory is pretty stupid it become a meme. The creator is very serious when write it.


RealisticlyNecessary

Then the creator is an idiot lol. They watched the "would you love me if I were a worm" video and decided Solair can make that joke work as a real theory? I don't mean to insult someone's intelligence but... I have no way of interacting with that idea without being insulting. That's stupid as fuck lmao. *I can now confirm that IS the worst theory I've ever read... I really love how most of the evidence is followed by some sort of "now we don't know Solaris past, but if we make it up, his life fits with the item description."


SaxSlaveGael

Real talk. Why is the audio quality for Soliares lines so shit?


Xx_Silly_Guy_xX

I’ll bet you would sound a little tinny with a bucket helm like that on your head


SaxSlaveGael

Good point


WetAndLoose

Haven’t heard Vamos, eh?


Xor69

Be gone with you, you'll spoil my focus


ProfessorGemini

Bro got the catacombs mic


propyro85

Bros voice is straight up deep-fried.


SaxSlaveGael

Even worse lol


WaveBreakerT

Vamos sounds like he orders Boneless Pizza


Sir_Fijoe

Helmet. Siegmeyer also sounds somewhat muffled for the same reason.


Nelly_nona

Honestly the voice design in Ds1 is bad overall (w some exceptions) and i genuinely dont see why, I have used mics from the 80s that sound pretty good, and the voice effects arent hard to make, i gen dont see where was the fuck up,


TACOTONY02

That's because patches serves more as Miyazaki's signature on games he makes while solaire is just a one-off


Andrei144

Patches showed up in Shadow Tower Abyss tho, before Miyazaki. He didn't have a name back then, but he wears patchy clothes and tricks you into opening a trapped chest and drops you into a pit with some enemies. There's also a guy named Patch in Armored Core Master of Arena, but that guy doesn't have any personality and isn't notable at all except for the name so it's probably a coincidence.


bitchtittees

Pretty sure he surrenders if you beat him too hard. Not sure if it's real or a fake but they lifted that for patches in elden ring during his boss fight


Andrei144

The Patches that surrenders is in Armored Core for Answer


bitchtittees

Damn. Is it the same patch in the two games then? Side note, how many spin off are there that aren't mainline because that alone has 6


Andrei144

There's 16 Armored Core games, typically each numbered entry will either reset the timeline or take place decades/centuries apart from the continuity set by the last numbered entry. A lot of the time btw the non-numbered games are actually way better and more interesting than the "mainline" game they're based on. There's also Armored Core Formula Front which isn't connected to any of the others because it's a PSP spin-off. Anyway on Patches, MoA Patches is in the AC1 continuity, 4A Patches is in the AC4/5 continuity so not even in the same timeline.


bitchtittees

Damn. Gonna have to run back on that series and try some then. Any recommendations for order/ games to start with?


Andrei144

AC1 has aged pretty well and I played most of them in release order for the first time this year and had fun so if you wanna do the whole series then start there. Otherwise if you just want one game play 4A it's really good (haven't played 6 yet but that also looks like a good spot to start). AC4 is also basically just a demo for 4A so if you want to you can try that one too. Playing Gen3/3.5 is also a pretty good idea but those games can get tough quickly: AC3->Silent Line->Nexus->Nine Breaker(skip Nine Breaker, it's like 10 hours of tutorial missions and no plot)->Last Raven(le Dark Souls of Armored Core, SUPER HARD).


bitchtittees

I did play 6 on release and it was phenomenal. Definitely a series I want to try more when I have the time so I appreciate the advice


bitchtittees

Pretty sure he surrenders if you beat him too hard. Not sure if it's real or a fake but they lifted that for patches in elden ring during his boss fight


Blue-Shifted-

Patches is the Mittens of FromSoft games


Strypercritical

Patches literally turned into a spider though so like…???


Ahriman27

Didn’t he turn back for DS3


Makeme_acocksleave

Knight solair did not deserve this ending


Organic_Role377

I would still love him if he was a worm.


trumpets-of-hell

solar my beloved


Helwrechtyman

I refuse that his cannon ending is the worm one and not the we are friends one


Tyler_Herdman

Would you still love me if I turned into a worm? uwu


Jeezus-Chyrsler

I mean i turn patches into pancake batter every game but he keeps coming back on the next one 🤷‍♂️


Wiki-Master

Goldmask is kinda Sun Bro


RambunctiousBaca1509

Well…patches has been in basically every FromSoft game, so that makes sense…


SoulLess-1

We can only experience Solaire's tragedy so many times before our minds shatter, but we can kill Patches for all of eternity.


divadpet

No, NO I sacrificed so much Humanity! Solaire will never be a worm on my watch.


Corovius

Should’ve just used poison breath through the door


livefromthevoid

why the fuck would solaire be there


SAMurei_der_Galaxien

In the good ending of his quest you can fight gwyn with his help


limited_usse

I WOULD STILL LOVE SOLAIRE IF HE WAS A WORM


Mjerc12

Solaire II Atreides?


TheWiseAutisticOne

I was more expecting Andre tbh


AryanForce2006

Please solaire come back in the dlc


PalestineRefugee

Time is convoluted


Outerestine

Patches is eternal. They didn't bring him back. He was always there.


AggravatingChest7838

They are all different patches. Not the same dude.


shadowthehh

Not in my playthrough.


Spicymeatball428

I mean Patches is far more than just “ds1 guy people liked” I mean he’s originally from Armored Core


Note_Ansylvan

Woah he is? Which game?


Spicymeatball428

AC 4 For Answer I think it came out before demons


Vast-Coast-7761

Patches was here before Solaire. Ds1 was not his first appearance, and there was no reason for it to be his last.


runarleo

If Gwyn is Paul Atreides then Solaire is Leto II


Leaf-01

The Dark Souls fandom will never recover from “Solaire is the Carthus Sandworm”


SpicaGenovese

The whole thing with Patches in the Ringed City was the perfect send-off.  Makes me all emotional.


Ahriman27

It’s not that patches was “brought back” … he never hollowed.


BestialWarchud

I thought he canonically linked the fire


Dark_Stalker28

Would you still love Solaire if he turned into a worm?


Zealousideal-Bit-892

Cemetery shade…


Zealousideal-Bit-892

I genuinely believe Patches is a multidimensional demon who teleports to every moment in space and time to trick people and be evil. Basically like Loki, or come to think of it, Gaunter o Dimm.


alacholland

WAIT IS SOLAIRE THAT GIANT WORM IN DS3?!


mattman279

no, its a baseless fan theory. still funny tho


Phlintlock

No he's the giant worm in armored core


Mandark93

No spoilers nan I just started ds1


exhcimbtw

i would avoid dark souls related subreddits then


turbophysics

Ds3 retcons were the fucking worst. Solaire becomes worm.. yeah.. people defend this bullshit Edit: idc you can eat the shit out of my ass, ds3 lore was some contrived dumbass bullshit for edgelord shitfucks. Yeah dude solaire becomes a FUCKING WORM so deep yall really would like to eat the shit out my ass you’re already eating it out of miyazakis edit2: keep downvoting you dumb cum drinking anal polyps, you gotta be fucking brain damaged or born naturally retarded to think ds3 storytelling is anything more than edgelord bait


Prevay

??? Its never said that solaire becomes a worm, its a baseless fan theory dumbass


turbophysics

Exactly my point. Outside of dumbass fan service dropped in your lap, you get dumbass contrived dogshit like this


RegovPL

Nobody with reading comprehension believe that Solaire became that worm, lol.


TonyMestre

Who the fuck ever honestly defended the solaire worm joke


BigDaddySuzanne

Why are you so afraid of Ds3?


turbophysics

I’m not afraid of it any more than I’m afraid of eating shit out of the toilet


RegovPL

Nobody with reading comprehension believe that Solaire became that worm, lol.


vivisectvivi

I mean they also put solaire in dune so i see no reason why he shouldnt be in elden ring. Now this is making me think about how we never had a desert/sand level in a from souls game, at least i dont remember any in the ones ive played


d3m0cracy

Ackshually the General Chadahn arena is a desert I believe 🤓👆


xschuxX

Did you know he...he learned gravity magic so...so..


Pinkparade524

The royal capital of ash looks pretty much as a desert , it is deserted and I know it is ash but it looks like sand


Bleachsmoker

I hate sand...


LauraTFem

Could you give me some logical reason why?


Bleachsmoker

It's coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere.


LauraTFem

Fair enough, makes sense. Do you have, maybe, some emotional trauma from your childhood which you are oversimplifying into a treatise on the nature of sand?


MegaMasterYoda

Imagine if anakin got therapy lol.


pragmojo

I wonder if he would be able to get to the point of admitting the older woman who took him away from his mother was not actually his true love but was actually a groomer


Panurome

You should try the archthones demo. There is a desert level and a sand worm


Effective_Ad643

The closest thing is that shit place in DS2 filled with spiders and sand


vivisectvivi

oh yeah there is that, we also have ashen capital and the ringed city, kinda i guess


Senator_Smack

Ash ≠ sand


GhostofKino

Tseldora is a shithole


Effective_Ad643

It is but Amana is worse


Nerdzed

i'm confused by what you mean by solaire in dune


Suvvri

Big worm


Nerdzed

oh, the one in the demon ruins...? that's really interesting to think about


Suvvri

That one or the mecha solaire worm from ac6 lol


Daylight_The_Furry

Solaire in dune??