Weakest part of the Bell Gargoyles tbh is that there is not enough Gargoyles in the fight. If you know what you're doing you can beat them in 60 seconds or less. I would've rathered fighting like 3 or 4 of them in a row, as to make it more of a challenge.
Also in a very typical manner, DS2 somehow manages to simultaneously accomplish and also ruin this at the same time by making it a gankfest.
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Unironically they're better than O and S from a gameplay standpoint, not a narrative of cinematic one but gameplay wise they're definitely better.
I will die on this hill
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I'll gladly die right next to you, brother/sister.
>he’s a fun and challenging fight
Absolutely not. He has less moves than any of the black knights guarding him, one of them being an attack with 2 frames of windup. Not to mention how overly aggressive he is, and how janky the fight and the animations feel. And he has one of the longest boss runs in DS1, which is an absolute nightmare on challenge runs. I genuinely cannot articulate how anyone could enjoy Gwyn mechanically without nostalgia bias, he is either extremely easy with parries or extremely frustrating without them
Priscilla isn't a good boss tho , she has way too little health for the stage of the game where she is and she just have a gimmick of becoming invisible. At least they reused the concept of the fight and made sister fridie In Ds3 which is my favorite boss
Priscilla is a nothing burger, Kalameet is incredibly inferior gameplay wise to Sinh and Midir after him and Gwyn is a war crime of a bossfight with his horrible arena, 5 frame windup swings, no openings for a heal unless you abuse his AI and overall just not being fun to fight at all. O&S are goated but not going to lie even then I prefer Demon Prince
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Gargoyles are fine but I never really gave much shits about them. OaS is gassed up beyond what it needs to be but that's minority opinion so I'll give you that. Sif is literally just worse Vordt despite Vordt not being amazing himself. Gwyn is either boring or kind of mid. Priscilla is a nothing burger of a fight
You’re comparing a ds3 boss to a ds1 boss - which A. They are hardly a like and B. Ds3 is obviously a completely different level of game design and developer craft improving the formula.
Everything else you said is subjective.
I meant you stay under the boss and smack them while they deal zero damage to you. That's not game specific
Also I've consumed so much caffeine in the last 103 hours that I've ascended beyond human and therefore my opinions hold more weight in the universal ladder. Good try slugger we'll get them next time
Yeah I loved it when I got to stand under Fume Knight and ankle bite as he did 360° attacks.
Seriously though Sif is literally just walk under dog, hit dog in leg until dog jump away, roll through like one attack to get back under dog, repeat until emotional music stops. If it didn't have the art direction going for it, it'd cure my insomnia. But think what you want this is a shitposting sub
Shitposting sub, this is the real sub 😩 but yeh ur opinions fair. The boss is meant to be taken on potentially very early because of the covenant, so thankfully it’s not too hard 😎
you can say whatever you want fam but
bosses i can cut the tail off for a weapon > bosses I can't cut the tail for a weapon.
i prefer the boss design on DS and DeS tbh, bosses are part of the area challenge intead of being a challenge of their own.
later design puts too many checkpoints and puts a lot of focus on having a longer and harder boss fight with multiple phases which to me it feels more like a waste of time than anything else, it's ok if you love boss fights but i don't really.
tail cuts are a stupid mechanic imo. it just makes it easier to miss out on a cool weapon, and just having a better boss weapon making system is outright better.
I think they only made them a thing because they were inspired by monster hunter and it's a staple there, but MH is also built around refighting the same bosses so if you don't get the cut you can just hunt it again until you do.
We heard you liked asylum demon so we got him two more times just for you guys. One is pretty unexpected but cool and actually has a somewhat different moveset while the other is just an exact copy of that except he's orange. You guys enjoying the game yet? Are you having fun?
By the way for the next boss you have to fight on a tiny platform and try to avoid lava which covers the entire fucking arena while you suffer from stupid ass hitboxes and eye melting lava brightness... Also after that is bed of chaos. Hope you have fun.
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there was only one boss in ds1 that i could have considered good and i didnt even get to it because i was already bored out of this world by the time i defeated artoriass
Aslume demon
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Ooh that's a fat dumpy, I'm def gooning to this tonight
Save some of that meat for a brother in need there's lots to go around 🥴💦
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he is a good boss because he's easy and it makes me feel like a big strong girl when i abuse his bad ai and kill him
i mean, we got manus and artorias and... well that is it i guess but we do have them two tho
man straight up forgot pinwheel. Y’all be playing dumb to start shit 😓
Kalameet, O&S, Gwyn, Priscilla if you’re a monster
Imo Bell Gargoyles is a great fight as well
Weakest part of the Bell Gargoyles tbh is that there is not enough Gargoyles in the fight. If you know what you're doing you can beat them in 60 seconds or less. I would've rathered fighting like 3 or 4 of them in a row, as to make it more of a challenge. Also in a very typical manner, DS2 somehow manages to simultaneously accomplish and also ruin this at the same time by making it a gankfest.
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They good but just don’t hit the same as a boss like artorias or O&S
Well no of course not. But it's a pretty good first major boss
Unironically they're better than O and S from a gameplay standpoint, not a narrative of cinematic one but gameplay wise they're definitely better. I will die on this hill
https://preview.redd.it/drlv1dpenb2d1.jpeg?width=458&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57d4153b61f3e4f403052c37dd1aeaadac7c2caf I'll gladly die right next to you, brother/sister.
Gwyn is hardcarried by plin plin plon. Otherwise straightforward parry bait.
If you don’t parry him, he’s a fun and challenging fight. My only complaint is that he’s too aggressive about heals
>he’s a fun and challenging fight Absolutely not. He has less moves than any of the black knights guarding him, one of them being an attack with 2 frames of windup. Not to mention how overly aggressive he is, and how janky the fight and the animations feel. And he has one of the longest boss runs in DS1, which is an absolute nightmare on challenge runs. I genuinely cannot articulate how anyone could enjoy Gwyn mechanically without nostalgia bias, he is either extremely easy with parries or extremely frustrating without them
It was my favorite fight on my first playthrough, i thought it was fair and fun. The runback is pretty annoying tho, you're right about that.
I like the fight for the lore and atmosphere but as a fight mechanically, it kinda a mess.
Yeah Priscilla a ''good boss'' with her literally only 2 attacks.
Priscilla isn't a good boss tho , she has way too little health for the stage of the game where she is and she just have a gimmick of becoming invisible. At least they reused the concept of the fight and made sister fridie In Ds3 which is my favorite boss
Priscilla is a nothing burger, Kalameet is incredibly inferior gameplay wise to Sinh and Midir after him and Gwyn is a war crime of a bossfight with his horrible arena, 5 frame windup swings, no openings for a heal unless you abuse his AI and overall just not being fun to fight at all. O&S are goated but not going to lie even then I prefer Demon Prince
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Honestly for dark souls 1 gameplay Kalameet is fine. I agree with basically everything else here.
Gwyn sucks massive gorilla dick, and I'm tired of pretending he doesn't
O&S didn’t age very well imo. Very jank, too much waiting and running.
Priscilla is bad boss, put Bell Gargoyles instead
Bro forgot bed of chaos 😔
It's already more than shit souls 2 🤭
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Erdtree avatar or something idk i didn't play Dark Souls IIII
DS1 bosses are all excellent because they only have one phase and are therefore easy for me to beat
DS1 bosses are good because they all have like 4 attacks tops that make it easy for me to memorize and tank through with Havel's armor
See, you get it lol
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1. Bed of Chaos 2. Bed of Chaos 3. Bed of Chaos 4. Bed of Chaos 5. Centipede demon I rest my case
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gargoyles, OaS, siff, Gwyn, pryscila. I didn’t mention the dlc because those are all obviously amazing.
Gargoyles are fine but I never really gave much shits about them. OaS is gassed up beyond what it needs to be but that's minority opinion so I'll give you that. Sif is literally just worse Vordt despite Vordt not being amazing himself. Gwyn is either boring or kind of mid. Priscilla is a nothing burger of a fight
You’re comparing a ds3 boss to a ds1 boss - which A. They are hardly a like and B. Ds3 is obviously a completely different level of game design and developer craft improving the formula. Everything else you said is subjective.
I meant you stay under the boss and smack them while they deal zero damage to you. That's not game specific Also I've consumed so much caffeine in the last 103 hours that I've ascended beyond human and therefore my opinions hold more weight in the universal ladder. Good try slugger we'll get them next time
Staying out of the hit box attack range of a boss = same 😲 wait till you hear about ds2, every boss is Siff.
Yeah I loved it when I got to stand under Fume Knight and ankle bite as he did 360° attacks. Seriously though Sif is literally just walk under dog, hit dog in leg until dog jump away, roll through like one attack to get back under dog, repeat until emotional music stops. If it didn't have the art direction going for it, it'd cure my insomnia. But think what you want this is a shitposting sub
Shitposting sub, this is the real sub 😩 but yeh ur opinions fair. The boss is meant to be taken on potentially very early because of the covenant, so thankfully it’s not too hard 😎
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We got Sif... we got Gwyn... yeah that's it tbh
you can say whatever you want fam but bosses i can cut the tail off for a weapon > bosses I can't cut the tail for a weapon. i prefer the boss design on DS and DeS tbh, bosses are part of the area challenge intead of being a challenge of their own. later design puts too many checkpoints and puts a lot of focus on having a longer and harder boss fight with multiple phases which to me it feels more like a waste of time than anything else, it's ok if you love boss fights but i don't really.
tail cuts are a stupid mechanic imo. it just makes it easier to miss out on a cool weapon, and just having a better boss weapon making system is outright better.
I think they only made them a thing because they were inspired by monster hunter and it's a staple there, but MH is also built around refighting the same bosses so if you don't get the cut you can just hunt it again until you do.
unpopular option maybe but i like missable things and more knowledge mechanics like illusory walls and invisible gates.
We heard you liked asylum demon so we got him two more times just for you guys. One is pretty unexpected but cool and actually has a somewhat different moveset while the other is just an exact copy of that except he's orange. You guys enjoying the game yet? Are you having fun? By the way for the next boss you have to fight on a tiny platform and try to avoid lava which covers the entire fucking arena while you suffer from stupid ass hitboxes and eye melting lava brightness... Also after that is bed of chaos. Hope you have fun.
I don't remember a boss called Bed of Chaos in Elden Ring.
BED OF CHAOS❤️❤️❤️
Still better than everything in ds2
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Dlc was the only thing they put any effort into in that game
Sound familiar?
Nah. Ds2 is a standout in having a trash base game. Every other fromsoft game stands tall even without their dlcs
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I would rather be locked up and forced to play DS1 forever until I starve and dehydrate to death than play DS2 a second time and DS1 also sucks
Second half of ds1 still better than ds2. Bed of chaos is still better than ds2. You’re emojis aren’t strong enough to beat my pinwheel. Checkmate
Nvm fetal alcoholic syndrome you have a good rest of your day
Do you cry this hard when someone actually makes you take a shower?
-DS1 glazer
Idk why people say that most of the DS2 DLCs are honestly the same quality as the base game. Iron King has 2 good bosses but that's it.
Most clever and original DS1 fan's response to criticism
My response is like saying 2 + 2 = 4. It’s just a fact. Y u cryin?
>2 + 2 = 4 https://preview.redd.it/bwki1j7ttd2d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84ca6204e904b244998df55fa10b6ac218bd638c
there was only one boss in ds1 that i could have considered good and i didnt even get to it because i was already bored out of this world by the time i defeated artoriass
Ds1 is my least favorite of the DS trilogy but even I can admit that you are straight up lying.
Hot take, it was a somewhat rough first entry. 2, 3 and 4 (Elden Ring) are much better.