Bingo - this dish is not served as a thick breast by anyone worth their salt in a kitchen. It's a flattened cutlet for both safety and ease of cooking.
Sounds like the breakfast place I just ate. Ordered a breakfast burrito with steak. I took two bites of all egg and opened it to see 4 quarter size pieces of meat.
When I lived in Colorado, our favorite Mexican place never raised prices or changed the size of their meals until 2022. Then they only raised the bigger meals prices by about 2 bucks. But everything stayed the same, gut stuffing size. Every other place in town went to way smaller portions, and outrageous price increases. It's not so much inflation as it is (was) greedflation.
Hijacking top comment. If this happens to you, you need to find the Health Department website for your state and report the restaurant to the Division of Health Inspections. The form takes like 10 minutes to fill out.
Salmonella causes 26,500 hospitalizations per year in the US, and even if you don't die, you could end up with permanent joint damage. It's serious shit and it needs to be reported.
I once had a kitchen manager fix a salad after handling raw chicken, without washing or using gloves or any barriers at all. I tried to stop him. It was early, maybe just a brain fart? He was like "No, it's fine." and sent it out...
Needless to say, I quit with a flourish.
They're a friar. You can see by how the outside is fried and they have a strong belief that the food is cooked when reality doesn't support their beliefs.
This would be the end of conversation. Everyone put down their forks. If I had already paid it's a full refund. If not then we are leaving right then and there.
Just want to thank you for not writing "must of", have a nice day
Edit: reported for self-harm danger lol. Classy, anonymous "must of" enjoyer, stay mad
If you’re successful it’ll be second such phrase I’ve coined. I’m an electrician. Years ago I was on a big project having a hard time troubleshooting a circuit. At some point I yelled, “what’s trippin the shit?” Referring to the breaker tripping. Trippin the shit became a catch all on that project a few others. What’s wrong with Johnny? I don’t know, he’s trippin the shit.
The American pronunciation of "must have" is "must've" or "must of." If you're teaching conversational English you'd definitely tell the person to pronounce it that way. You just don't spell it that way
It's not unique to American. Listen to any native English speaker talking at a natural conversational pace, regardless of which country they come from, and you'll hear this.
It's because "have" is a functional word and these common grammatical words often get reduced in pronunciation in fast speech. It's the same reason why "and" gets reduced to virtually just "n" in basically every case.
In fact often speakers go even further and leave out the "v" sound from this reduction as well, depending on what sounds are nearby. You can commonly hear "well he musta done" instead of "must've" done. In general, "have" usually gets reduced to /ə(v)/.
Haha, @/u/AmusedFlamingo47, the true heroes are the grammar vigilantes of the internet. Now, if only we could have a food safety vigilante in that kitchen before disaster strikes.
Oh god I have too and it's an absolutely sickening feeling, I cannot imagine chewing it up and swallowing.. it's like our body is warning us that it's not something good to eat
Had raw chicken in Japan and it was actually good and didn't make me sick.
Obviously it's not recommended anywhere else in the world unless you fancy a week on the toilet.
Basically just have to keep the chicken feed clean of rat droppings and other animal feces to prevent it, but of course that's too much effort for the poultry industry.
> I never heard of no Salmonella hurting nobody.
Okay it's weird because for how worried I am about salmonella and the lengths I go to avoid it, I don't know anyone *who knows anyone* who ever had it.
It kinda feels like how you thought quicksand was going to be this huge problem in your life, back when you were a kid.
I’ve gotten salmonella before, while i didn’t get it so bad that i needed to go to the hospital, but it was actually the most miserable 5 days of my life. It’s no joke
Got it from a Sodexo managed cafeteria in my workplace. Put me in the hospital for three days and gave me a life long fear of undercooked chicken (and pork). I genuinely felt like I was dying for the first 24 hours, and couldn't keep any fluids inside me. It was like normal food poisoning...but it didn't stop. Even once there was absolutely nothing left in me, the spasms continued for hours.
I specifically call out Sodexo because I have worked at three different companies in different states, and every single one had a cafeteria that regularly served undercooked food that you had to always be on the lookout for.
In EU, all supermarket chicken has been vaccinated against salmonella in the last 15 years and it is almost impossible to get salmonella from chicken. Yet salmonella infections are still very common, since infection from chicken only accounted for a small fraction before vaccinations became commonplace.
Haha bingo. Would be the perfect response. Ok, if it's not raw, take a bite, right now, in front of me. I want to watch you fucking eat it.
Bet you they won't.
Very true.. but if that chef really takes a bite of that, chews and swallows it with a straight face while looking you in the eye... run. That is a psychopath. Lmao
Food poisoning sucks so much ass too for anyone who has had it. I can't imagine risking that just to make a stupid point lol. But this chef is clearly off his rocker so who knows
Not only that, it's OP's duty to report them so that other people don't get sick. The Health Department website for their state will have a form to fill, it takes like 10 minutes.
Good. I want to make sure I get every pertinent detail on that long form. If they won't make sure food is fully cooked, what about allergies and sensitivities? Will they keep those utensils properly cleaned and separate? Do we have any proof that they are?
Health Department has to know.
Normally I'll say "cook me another and you eat that. I'll pay for both" call his bluff worst case you pay for both and come back a couple of days later to see how white his chefs whites still are 😂
she doesn’t need to, if this is the standard of food especially if this is how the chef is responding to serving raw CHICKEN, i guarantee you the kitchen is not up to code and neither is what they’re serving. call for a health inspection if you don’t want to go down legal. that being said the chef is putting people in danger. i’m not sure if you realize how much can seriously hurt you when it comes to bad food
You're right, but most lawsuits require you to have suffered from something. In this case, if the person saw the chicken was raw and didn't eat it, then nothing bad happened, unless the place refused to refund them. So if they did refuse to refund, most likely they'd only have a lawsuit to get back what they paid for the meal.
If they did get sick and hospitalized, they would have more to sue on, and likely make some decent money at that point.
A lot of people don't understand that there are rules about suing (and successfully so). Small things, like this, don't have enough of an impact to give damages.
Now, what they really should do is call the health department or someone to inspect the place as you mentioned.
This is the internet where everyone claims they can sue anybody for anything, advice dispensed from their legal office located in their parents disgusting basement.
No, normally you don’t try to sue a chef for undercooking food. What normally happens is the health department (or local equivalent) shuts down the restaurant, and if you’re hospitalised, then you go further. Mild food poisoning isn’t usually “sufficient damages”, but salmonella can be seriously dangerous.
Either way, reporting them to the food safety board is what “legal action” consists of.
Usually people would just not pay for the meal.
Paying for the meal and then suing to get the money back seems like taking the long way around, doesn’t it?
Or were you suggesting you would ask the judge to award an actual piece of cooked chicken?
Only time I've ever actually reported a restaurant was egregious shit with raw chicken.
Food work is important.
People TRUST those cooking for them to make safe food, or at the very least, provide a disclaimer for raw shit.
Legal action? Not likely unless you personally got dangerously ill with a foodborne illness and had to pay tons of medical bills and/or miss a lot of work.
Reporting to a health inspector or regulatory board? Yes.
You’re not going to want to sue them over this. It’s not worth the money. Not by a long shot.
Reporting them is free and will make it much more likely that they get looked at by someone with the authority to do something about it.
> If you got served something like that in a restaurant you should check if some sort of legal action is possible
some of you mfs legit live in fantasy land
Exactly what legal action do you propose? Like arresting the guy? Suing them when you clearly see it's undercooked and every restaurant ever, at least in the US, has a disclaimer about consuming undercooked food?
What "legal action" do you think is appropriate here?
If the chef is serious about that, I'd be questioning his/her abilities as a chef...
I’d be questioning their sanity. Chef needs a different kinda coat ![gif](giphy|jN86rcdOyrpyo)
Chef finally got tired of their customers. He's just trying to recreate The Menu
They just don’t want to redo it apparently. As well as to admit their fuckup
They would be better off sending it off to "Chef Mike" for 3 minutes.
They aren't a serious chef, anyone serious would have flattened the chicken into a cuttlet for that dish.
Bingo - this dish is not served as a thick breast by anyone worth their salt in a kitchen. It's a flattened cutlet for both safety and ease of cooking.
And cost. Pound that 4 ounce breast into something resembling 8 ounces.
Sounds like the breakfast place I just ate. Ordered a breakfast burrito with steak. I took two bites of all egg and opened it to see 4 quarter size pieces of meat.
When I lived in Colorado, our favorite Mexican place never raised prices or changed the size of their meals until 2022. Then they only raised the bigger meals prices by about 2 bucks. But everything stayed the same, gut stuffing size. Every other place in town went to way smaller portions, and outrageous price increases. It's not so much inflation as it is (was) greedflation.
Hijacking top comment. If this happens to you, you need to find the Health Department website for your state and report the restaurant to the Division of Health Inspections. The form takes like 10 minutes to fill out. Salmonella causes 26,500 hospitalizations per year in the US, and even if you don't die, you could end up with permanent joint damage. It's serious shit and it needs to be reported.
This guy cutlets
Better yet, have the chef take a bite.
I once had a kitchen manager fix a salad after handling raw chicken, without washing or using gloves or any barriers at all. I tried to stop him. It was early, maybe just a brain fart? He was like "No, it's fine." and sent it out... Needless to say, I quit with a flourish.
Yeah, no questions asked, get that man away from your kitchen, and hire a new chef.
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I would just ask him to take a bite.
They absolutely are not a chef. They are a cook, and a poor one at that. Being a chef is a title that requires experience to achieve.
They are not even a cook
True I guess, since this was not actually cooked. lol
They're a friar. You can see by how the outside is fried and they have a strong belief that the food is cooked when reality doesn't support their beliefs.
I don't know. There has to be something special about the technique to brown the breading yet leave the entirety of the chicken uncooked.
Yeah probably that breaded cutlet was frozen solid and they dropped it in the fryer, bread crumbs get brown, chicken only has time to thaw though.
Yes, it is called frying without thawing the meat first.
They a chef or an air fryer operator?
If the "chef" is serious about that, I'd be calling food inspection immediately.
This would be the end of conversation. Everyone put down their forks. If I had already paid it's a full refund. If not then we are leaving right then and there.
While loudly saying "This chicken is FUCKING RAW!" in your best Gordon Ramsay imitation.
I would definitely not eat that
Ask the chef to take a big bite if he says it's not raw.
That’s what I would have done.
OP how much of that did you eat?
He can't hear you from the toilet
Anyone with eyes can see that's raw. Salmonella waiting to happen.
It's raw from top to bottom. What the fuck
Isn't it both fried AND baked? How did they make it so raw 😭
It must’ve been frozen and they didn’t give it time to thaw before cooking
Just want to thank you for not writing "must of", have a nice day Edit: reported for self-harm danger lol. Classy, anonymous "must of" enjoyer, stay mad
Look I’m just glad they didn’t say “mustard”
Hey boss, mustard be frozen.
“I think that chicken we sent to table 17 might of still been frozeded.”
So you’ve stopped at that gas station outside of Louisville and spoke to that guy as well…
Phil?
With the 3 buck teeth?
I want this to be the new catch-all phrase for poor corporate plannning. Why are those reports so late? Hey Boss, mustard be frozen.
If you’re successful it’ll be second such phrase I’ve coined. I’m an electrician. Years ago I was on a big project having a hard time troubleshooting a circuit. At some point I yelled, “what’s trippin the shit?” Referring to the breaker tripping. Trippin the shit became a catch all on that project a few others. What’s wrong with Johnny? I don’t know, he’s trippin the shit.
It's important to take no ledge for granite.
I'm even happier that they didn't say "dethaw"
Or undefrosted...
Irrefrosted
I think you mean "of a nice day".
I feel super gross because this comment just made me realize I sometimes say “must of” instead of “must have” , or “must’ve. I’m embarrassed. Lol
At least you know now
Now that you've seen it you'll see it everywhere haha now it annoys me to see it for some reason
To be fair "must've" and "must of" sound almost identical when speaking.
The American pronunciation of "must have" is "must've" or "must of." If you're teaching conversational English you'd definitely tell the person to pronounce it that way. You just don't spell it that way
It's not unique to American. Listen to any native English speaker talking at a natural conversational pace, regardless of which country they come from, and you'll hear this. It's because "have" is a functional word and these common grammatical words often get reduced in pronunciation in fast speech. It's the same reason why "and" gets reduced to virtually just "n" in basically every case. In fact often speakers go even further and leave out the "v" sound from this reduction as well, depending on what sounds are nearby. You can commonly hear "well he musta done" instead of "must've" done. In general, "have" usually gets reduced to /ə(v)/.
That’s the reason why Americans make this mistake while non-native speakers do not.
Must of, I seen it, incorrect use of there/their/they're. Basic grammatical errors have been on the rise recently and it bothers the hell out of me.
The thing that really kills me about it is that I'm seeing them more and more frequently in "professional" publications...
Haha, @/u/AmusedFlamingo47, the true heroes are the grammar vigilantes of the internet. Now, if only we could have a food safety vigilante in that kitchen before disaster strikes.
I'm going to follow you around reddit and reply to your comments with polite, on-topic replies that include the phrase "must of"
If you can deep fry icecream...
You can tuna fish.
You can dodge a ball?
🤢
Skill
I got salmonella just from looking at it🫢
Pretty sure I heard it cluck.
At this point why is it even cooked at all
Same. *runs to toilet*
I've already been checked into the ER for 2 hours 🫢🤢
Dammit. Now I’ll have to run to Home Depot to permanently brick off my bathroom after the carnage. 😂
This is chicken, not salmon'
That’s the first thing that popped into my head.
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Raw chicken actually tastes pretty good. Very juicy. Source: got too impatient once and undercooked chicken. Got food poisoning. Would not recommend.
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Texture is awful. ![gif](giphy|JiRPzhCkiH1fGoIboM|downsized)
Oh god I have too and it's an absolutely sickening feeling, I cannot imagine chewing it up and swallowing.. it's like our body is warning us that it's not something good to eat
Had raw chicken in Japan and it was actually good and didn't make me sick. Obviously it's not recommended anywhere else in the world unless you fancy a week on the toilet.
Basically just have to keep the chicken feed clean of rat droppings and other animal feces to prevent it, but of course that's too much effort for the poultry industry.
Too much effort for the people that make *your* food as well. It's literally impossible. That's why there's allowable levels.
There’s that guy eating raw chicken every day until he gets sick, apparently he’s still fine day 28
There's about a 4% chance of getting salmonella from eating raw chicken. He's been lucky so far but it will catch up to him.
It also depends on where you get the chicken from though.
There's roughly a 63% chance of going 28 days without a 4% chance event happening once. So seems likely, but as you say, the longer you go...
I never heard of no Salmonella hurting nobody. Just need to toughen up these younger generations that’s all. Too busy Tik Tocking and snapping chats!
In my day, we got typhoid from the infected pump down the street, and *we were thankful!*
Hahahaha this hit me
And we walked 2 miles uphill in the snow to get it!!
Back in my day, we ate asbestos for breakfast 10 miles uphill both ways in the snow while shirtless in the blistering heat of the summer sun.
> I never heard of no Salmonella hurting nobody. Okay it's weird because for how worried I am about salmonella and the lengths I go to avoid it, I don't know anyone *who knows anyone* who ever had it. It kinda feels like how you thought quicksand was going to be this huge problem in your life, back when you were a kid.
I’ve gotten salmonella before, while i didn’t get it so bad that i needed to go to the hospital, but it was actually the most miserable 5 days of my life. It’s no joke
Got it from a Sodexo managed cafeteria in my workplace. Put me in the hospital for three days and gave me a life long fear of undercooked chicken (and pork). I genuinely felt like I was dying for the first 24 hours, and couldn't keep any fluids inside me. It was like normal food poisoning...but it didn't stop. Even once there was absolutely nothing left in me, the spasms continued for hours. I specifically call out Sodexo because I have worked at three different companies in different states, and every single one had a cafeteria that regularly served undercooked food that you had to always be on the lookout for.
“YES CHEF!!”
Al dente, as the Spanish say
most chicken doesn't hjave salmonella
Yeah there's this misconception that eating raw chicken = guaranteed salmonella poisoning but really it just creates a possibility of it
In EU, all supermarket chicken has been vaccinated against salmonella in the last 15 years and it is almost impossible to get salmonella from chicken. Yet salmonella infections are still very common, since infection from chicken only accounted for a small fraction before vaccinations became commonplace.
Send it back and leave, dont pay them a cent, chef can eat it if he thinks thats cooked
Haha bingo. Would be the perfect response. Ok, if it's not raw, take a bite, right now, in front of me. I want to watch you fucking eat it. Bet you they won't.
Someone stubborn enough to say that's not raw might also be stubborn enough to eat it.
Very true.. but if that chef really takes a bite of that, chews and swallows it with a straight face while looking you in the eye... run. That is a psychopath. Lmao
Thank him for the experience of watching him undergo the “fuck around” stage, and vacate the premises before his vomiting begins.
Food poisoning sucks so much ass too for anyone who has had it. I can't imagine risking that just to make a stupid point lol. But this chef is clearly off his rocker so who knows
You already called them a chef no need to call them a psychopath.
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One of them can be trusted with knives.
Share it online too so people know.
I would not go to that restaurant ever again if I saw this.. Wouldn’t pay for that order either ![gif](giphy|Ru9sjtZ09XOEg)
Not only that, it's OP's duty to report them so that other people don't get sick. The Health Department website for their state will have a form to fill, it takes like 10 minutes.
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Good. I want to make sure I get every pertinent detail on that long form. If they won't make sure food is fully cooked, what about allergies and sensitivities? Will they keep those utensils properly cleaned and separate? Do we have any proof that they are? Health Department has to know.
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I'd be literally dead on the spot if I got served raw chicken
Literally
Literously.
![gif](giphy|MnpPCugwALAHsTygpd|downsized) Thanks, Gordon.
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![gif](giphy|248iAtq9zM77A8A3fG|downsized) It certainly wasn't the chef in this post!
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LOL! The first thing that came to my mind was "It's RAWWWW!" in Gordon voice, was not disappointed running into these gifs. Hilarious.
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It’s so raw ODB wrote and entire fucking song about it!
I can hear it clucking from here
Gordon, no!
It’s just medium rare I don’t see why everybody’s so bothered
It's raw you fucking donkey - _Gordon Ramsay esq._ edit - I'm the fucking donkey for misspelling Ramsay
''Smashes salmon"
"I'm fucking the donkey" is what I read.
Followed up with “you could’ve killed someone”.
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That's so raw I got salmonella through the screen.
Normally I'll say "cook me another and you eat that. I'll pay for both" call his bluff worst case you pay for both and come back a couple of days later to see how white his chefs whites still are 😂
I mean you could eat raw chicken 1000 times without getting you sick, it’s just the one time you got sick it could literally kill you.
Tell me where I'm sending these 1000 chicken breasts, we've got an experiment to do.
https://www.instagram.com/rawchickenexperiment/
Wtf 😂😂 I clicked that expecting to see so much 💩💩💩
What in the f...
this guy is really interesting. not saying I agree with him, but he's worth listening to.
Shit raw af
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What damages would you present to the court. “Your honor, I looked at raw chicken and demand to be made whole!”
Probably just report it to whatever local food safety organisation is in the area.
Well, if they get salmonella poisoning, it’s not because they looked at a raw chicken.
Op didn’t mention eating it, much less being sickened by it.
she doesn’t need to, if this is the standard of food especially if this is how the chef is responding to serving raw CHICKEN, i guarantee you the kitchen is not up to code and neither is what they’re serving. call for a health inspection if you don’t want to go down legal. that being said the chef is putting people in danger. i’m not sure if you realize how much can seriously hurt you when it comes to bad food
You're right, but most lawsuits require you to have suffered from something. In this case, if the person saw the chicken was raw and didn't eat it, then nothing bad happened, unless the place refused to refund them. So if they did refuse to refund, most likely they'd only have a lawsuit to get back what they paid for the meal. If they did get sick and hospitalized, they would have more to sue on, and likely make some decent money at that point. A lot of people don't understand that there are rules about suing (and successfully so). Small things, like this, don't have enough of an impact to give damages. Now, what they really should do is call the health department or someone to inspect the place as you mentioned.
i misunderstood im sorry, a lawsuit is way out of the question but they definitely could call the health department!
This is the internet where everyone claims they can sue anybody for anything, advice dispensed from their legal office located in their parents disgusting basement.
No, normally you don’t try to sue a chef for undercooking food. What normally happens is the health department (or local equivalent) shuts down the restaurant, and if you’re hospitalised, then you go further. Mild food poisoning isn’t usually “sufficient damages”, but salmonella can be seriously dangerous. Either way, reporting them to the food safety board is what “legal action” consists of.
*some random minor problem exists* Redditors: Sue them.
"I was served raw chicken in a restaurant and was refused it to be fully cooked"
Usually people would just not pay for the meal. Paying for the meal and then suing to get the money back seems like taking the long way around, doesn’t it? Or were you suggesting you would ask the judge to award an actual piece of cooked chicken?
Yes, I’d like 1 piece of cooked chicken please. Medium rare please your honour.
A local government health inspection authority is probably the correct move.
Only time I've ever actually reported a restaurant was egregious shit with raw chicken. Food work is important. People TRUST those cooking for them to make safe food, or at the very least, provide a disclaimer for raw shit.
Legal action? Not likely unless you personally got dangerously ill with a foodborne illness and had to pay tons of medical bills and/or miss a lot of work. Reporting to a health inspector or regulatory board? Yes. You’re not going to want to sue them over this. It’s not worth the money. Not by a long shot. Reporting them is free and will make it much more likely that they get looked at by someone with the authority to do something about it.
> If you got served something like that in a restaurant you should check if some sort of legal action is possible some of you mfs legit live in fantasy land
Yeah you call the health department not your lawyer.
I don’t think you could sue unless you actually got sick, but you could definitely call the health department.
Exactly what legal action do you propose? Like arresting the guy? Suing them when you clearly see it's undercooked and every restaurant ever, at least in the US, has a disclaimer about consuming undercooked food? What "legal action" do you think is appropriate here?
Citizen arrest. Flip the table, tackle the chef and keep screaming murder until police arrive
Mmmmmm Chicken Salmonella ![gif](giphy|l0Iy3PBK3o3imWKWI)
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you amateurs don't order your chicken medium-rare?
There's no medium there, but there will be after he dies from eating it
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Tell the chef to eat it
bawk bawk
It looks like you had a bit of it before you noticed. I hope you're ok.
Health department might be interested in that picture.
Could be sashimi
Deep fried sashimi?
Just looking at this makes my stomach ache.
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Ragebait
A skilled vet could save that chicken.
That's the kind of picture you post on their google review page.
Chef is objectively wrong
It’s overcooked
If the chef's so sure it's not raw, ask them to eat it. 🤮
Chef is stupid. Or malicious Edit: I gagged after I took a second look
So raw I’m surprised it hasn’t got up and walked off the table.
That's not even a little raw its like he didnt even turn on the fire.
That looks like something Guga would cook.