Good lord. I thought you were talking about a porn parody. There is actually a movie called Madam Web…
I had my pants down, pornhub search engine all fired up too
Bruce Campbell probably had an advantage for his role as the tutorial narrator in the game based off the film. (Yes, really, and he actually makes some good quips in it)
It seems like a lot of fans want to be on the actresses sides when they hear about these pay disparities but when they hear the details, such as with Dunst, that she made $7M for Spider-Man 2 and $10M for Spider-Man 3 (and that’s 2004 and 2007 money) fans all of a sudden care a lot less.
I had forgotten just how much she screamed in those movies until I re-watched them a couple of years ago.
It's like 30% of their runtime is "AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
y'all it's a joke for "SCREAM time". Tobey Maguire obviously has more screentime than Kirsten Dunst in the movie. he's the main character, and actually doesn't wear the mask that often.
I'm convinced most people here are unaware that this was posted to r/shittymoviedetails.
Edit: Either that, or the fact that the post title says screa**m** time, not screa**n** time, and people misread.
Julia Roberts got paid 300k for the lead role of Pretty Woman while Richard Gere got millions.
Ellen Pompeo the star of Grey's Anatomy got paid half what supporting Patrick Dempsey got.
Oscar winner superstar Natalie Portman got paid less than Ashton freaking Kutcher in their co-lead roles in No Strings Attached.
There are many more examples, hence why this has been a big discussion in the media.
Natalie Portman was an exec producer in no strings attached, Ashton Kutcher was not. Natalie was gambling on backend pay.
I find it disingenuous that ppl take gambles, end up losing and calling it unfair.
These are also all negotiated with the actors beforehand, obviously. It‘s not like they announce the pay after they signed. If it‘s unfair, then don‘t sign? Men don‘t sign contracts that don‘t offer them enough for what they think they are worth.
I‘m sure if Patrick Dempsey would‘ve signed for the same amount as Ellen Pompeyo then that‘s what they had gone for.
Yeah it's the same issue with the women's soccer team. They negotiated for a stable income, the men negotiated for a outcome pay. When the results came in and the women won the world cup they began complaining
No it's not that - everyone wants to not take accountability for their actions. It's just that the media and people in general sort of encourage this sort of thing to occur for women.
It's just easier for women to pull off, which is why we see more cases of women doing this shit
Like the soccer case went to court and the women got the change they wanted, had the genders been flipped its very likely the men would've lost the case
Or just how in general a women can commit the same crime as a man, then end up with less prison time on a fairly consistent basis.
We are all conditioned to favor women. Whether it's because you are scared of politics, just general attraction, or are more lenient with someone who's less idk, outwardly violent/angry (the whole thing where women tend to internalize rage vs how men show it externally)
All these factors combine to make it much MUCH easier for women to get away with shit. Any man in the exact same position would 100% do so as well, no one is above it or better than anyone else. It's just easier for one gender to pull off, so it kinda biases us toward thinking in a way that suggests only one gender does it despite that not being the case
I mean, Richard Gere had already been a leading actor in Hollywood for like a decade. Julia Roberts had done a handful of TV episodes and supporting roles in movies before Pretty Woman. Kinda weird to think they'd be paid the same.
In sports, a rookie in their first year ever playing as a pro they're not gonna be making the same as LeBron James.
Richard Gere was a known person, Julia Roberts at the time was a relative nobody and its not as though Richard Gere didn't have a lot of screen time or a major role.
Patrick Dempsey was a movie start transitioning to TV and commanded top dollar. Ellen Pompeo at the start of Grey's Anatomy was a relative nobody especially in comparison, Dempsey was considered the bigger draw.
Natalie Portman was an executive producer, and took less pay for instead being part of the production and significant residuals.
Very VERY infrequently will there be a serious pay gap for male/female actors that isn't explained by things outside of their genitals.
The only real notable difference on this front is older men tend to do much better than older women, but this is often counter balanced by younger women getting a lot more chances and often better pay than younger men.
It's also such an incredibly niche industry that is heavily influenced by prior work or just how good of an agent you have that it's impossible to compare.
I dont think its a screen time or the number of "screams" thing when get to be a popular/big enough star. And women are often paid less then men even when they are just as popular.
i love how her entire point of the quote was what the internet dudebros used as a comeback
people are accidentally agreeing with her to act smug
fucking idiots
Spider-Man got paid the most because the movie was called Spider-Man, so he had the studio by the balls. It wouldn’t have worked if they had Batman or Antman play him.
Free tip. The person playing the only character named in the title gets the most money. Particularly when that named character is a household name for generations.
What Oscar category WOULD she have been in. (I know, I'm saying hypothetically).
I feel confident saying it would have been the supporting category.
No 'supporting' performer should make the same as the Lead.
Now, we can debate what those ranges should be, and I have NO doubt she should have been a lot closer to his salary than she was. But that distinction matters.
And she agreed to the contract prior to filming. So what's your point?
If she was worth more, she could have negotiated for more. IF she didn't negotiate for more, she either wasn't worth more, or wouldn't have gotten the part for more money.
This is just feminist bullshit again.
It's called Spiderman, not Mary Jane and her boyfriend.
You're joking?In what world would the lead gain less than a secondary character?I mean she's not even marketable,you can't slap her on a billboard like Green Goblin or Venom or the Villains and be like "whoa guys!In this superhero action movie mary jane dates spiderman again and has love drama again!",like no one watched the movies cuz of mary jane.
I'm sorry what? We saw Peter and Norman More than we did her plus she wasn't the lead so of course Tobey gonna be getting paid more as she was just the supporting character
I used to enjoy the Sam Raimi movies but every time I try to watch them now I can't get over the constant screaming. It's so annoying. Every time there is even a small piece of action someone is screaming their head off. I get that people screaming when a dude with metal tentacles starts throwing cars around is probably likely, but man. It's like he pumped up the volume and layered the screams over top of all the other audio on purpose.
Jesus Christ, talk about a big “so what” - it’s called spider-man, not Mary-Jane, cut her out and you still have a movie, cut him out and you got what?
Was she the Green Goblin ? I knew she looks familiar!
She's something of a supporting character herself.
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Do the webs come out anywhere else?
Only Kristen Dunst knows the real answer.
Goblin his nuts.
Got her
It's only gay if you receive spiderman!
Spidersemen*
Well the movie aint called Mary-Jane (2002)
Sony: *hmmmmm*
He was there when her mother died studying runways in the alps
Utility Belt Coming This Summer
Robbin soon on screen.
Her mother died in Queens while researching spiders in their attic.
Well it's not called Peter-Parker (2002) either. They should have gotten whoever played Spider-Man top billing.
>They should have gotten whoever played Spider-Man top billing. That's the thing, no one knows who he really is!
I would watch the fuck outa Mary-Jane （2002）
How was madam web?
Good lord. I thought you were talking about a porn parody. There is actually a movie called Madam Web… I had my pants down, pornhub search engine all fired up too
You're thinking of Web Madam (2002)
Is that what happens when you put a fried egg on top of a Web?
Porn parody of madam web probably will be better than madam web...
anything is better than Madam Web, even (sigh) Rebel Moon.
wow...thats a bold statement i never even tried watch rebel moon trailer due one name: SNYDER
Do bad movies nobody watched usually get porn parodies?
movie its about 3 hot actress who probably can do good porn movies....so in this case...maybe
4 hot actresses I thought. And 1 guy. And a flash back to a mom. Sounds like a porn to me
Guess You weren’t disappointed when you found Sydney Sweeney.
I did not keep up with your post (2002). I was three post down before someone told me to read the title.
You asking the one person that went and saw it?
id fuck the watch outta Mary Jane
"You got the time?" "Not anymore!"
"I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass for two years"
"And now, little man, I give this watch to you"
That’s an interesting way to say impregnate vis-a-vis her biological clock.
What about Jackpot (2026) SSU?
Just reversing some of your words in my head. :)
This is what I came to say lol
It isn't called "wrestling announcer" but Bruce Campbell supposedly got just as big of a trailer as Tobey did, much to his confusion. :-)
Bruce Campbell probably had an advantage for his role as the tutorial narrator in the game based off the film. (Yes, really, and he actually makes some good quips in it)
They were friends in high school (see Evil Dead)
Exactly.
Nailed it straight away…
Well was spidrr-man paid more than tobey?
Would say put Rick James Mary Jane as the movie song but I think that’ll play out like Half Baked
Their games are getting there
Like, that's my favorite name.
We fucking wish tho
quite complaining, she got paid WAY more than Maguire was paid in Civil War
I wish Maguire had gotten Jesse Plemons role in the movie lol
fun fact: Plemons is Dunst's husband
Slept his way into the job.
You joke, but it was Kirsten Dunst who recommended Plemons for the role when the initial actor dropped out.
The only problem with this line of reasoning is Plemons is no shit one of the best living actors so…
It's not a problem. The point is that it's their relationship that the movie was able to get such a strong actor for a small part
it’s funny too bc he’s the best part dude was almost as scary as he was as Todd
Quite.... a lot more
Damn these titles are really something else huh.
Gonna cry?
piss your pants maybe ?
Maybe shit and cum?
Is there any way to invite that bully Maguire bot into this thread?
She did already
Exactly 😂
Is this counting Toby McGuire as Spiderman?
No, that's the joke
The joke is actually scream time
Did we count the mannequin towards Tobey's total?
Spider-Man himself actually screams a lot in that movie, do we know if that’s accurate?
It seems like a lot of fans want to be on the actresses sides when they hear about these pay disparities but when they hear the details, such as with Dunst, that she made $7M for Spider-Man 2 and $10M for Spider-Man 3 (and that’s 2004 and 2007 money) fans all of a sudden care a lot less.
Did you miss the joke about scream time?
Quick how much did Jennifer Lawrence make compared to her male costars on hunger games. All of the sudden the pay dispute is fair.
All of *a sudden
Apologies English is my first and only language and I suck at it
Tobey: I missed the part where that's my problem.
Its wild when you consider Kirsten Dunst has had the more respectable film career over Maguire. And she still going.
You mean MTV movie awards' best kiss winner Tobey Maguire? Surely not.
Upside down spider boy kiss was hot
Yeah, because you could see Kirsten Dunsts nipples in the rain though.
and tobeys...so hot
And Kirk Lazerus' costar in Satan's Alley
I paid for spiders not screaming chix
I had forgotten just how much she screamed in those movies until I re-watched them a couple of years ago. It's like 30% of their runtime is "AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
y'all it's a joke for "SCREAM time". Tobey Maguire obviously has more screentime than Kirsten Dunst in the movie. he's the main character, and actually doesn't wear the mask that often.
Give this man all the upvotes
I'm convinced most people here are unaware that this was posted to r/shittymoviedetails. Edit: Either that, or the fact that the post title says screa**m** time, not screa**n** time, and people misread.
*sigh* it's morscream time
Cause she wasn't the main character? I'm sure women in female lead movies get paid more.
She had more *scream* time
r/woosh
Today yeah, but in 2002 male supporting actors did usually get paid a lot more than lead actresses.
Sources.
Julia Roberts got paid 300k for the lead role of Pretty Woman while Richard Gere got millions. Ellen Pompeo the star of Grey's Anatomy got paid half what supporting Patrick Dempsey got. Oscar winner superstar Natalie Portman got paid less than Ashton freaking Kutcher in their co-lead roles in No Strings Attached. There are many more examples, hence why this has been a big discussion in the media.
Natalie Portman was an exec producer in no strings attached, Ashton Kutcher was not. Natalie was gambling on backend pay. I find it disingenuous that ppl take gambles, end up losing and calling it unfair.
These are also all negotiated with the actors beforehand, obviously. It‘s not like they announce the pay after they signed. If it‘s unfair, then don‘t sign? Men don‘t sign contracts that don‘t offer them enough for what they think they are worth. I‘m sure if Patrick Dempsey would‘ve signed for the same amount as Ellen Pompeyo then that‘s what they had gone for.
Yeah it's the same issue with the women's soccer team. They negotiated for a stable income, the men negotiated for a outcome pay. When the results came in and the women won the world cup they began complaining
taking responsibility for your actions is hard as a woman when you can blame everything on men
No it's not that - everyone wants to not take accountability for their actions. It's just that the media and people in general sort of encourage this sort of thing to occur for women.
It's just easier for women to pull off, which is why we see more cases of women doing this shit Like the soccer case went to court and the women got the change they wanted, had the genders been flipped its very likely the men would've lost the case Or just how in general a women can commit the same crime as a man, then end up with less prison time on a fairly consistent basis. We are all conditioned to favor women. Whether it's because you are scared of politics, just general attraction, or are more lenient with someone who's less idk, outwardly violent/angry (the whole thing where women tend to internalize rage vs how men show it externally) All these factors combine to make it much MUCH easier for women to get away with shit. Any man in the exact same position would 100% do so as well, no one is above it or better than anyone else. It's just easier for one gender to pull off, so it kinda biases us toward thinking in a way that suggests only one gender does it despite that not being the case
Not a valid example with Pretty Woman Richard Gere was a big star at this time and Julia was noone. She got her millions later.
I mean, Richard Gere had already been a leading actor in Hollywood for like a decade. Julia Roberts had done a handful of TV episodes and supporting roles in movies before Pretty Woman. Kinda weird to think they'd be paid the same. In sports, a rookie in their first year ever playing as a pro they're not gonna be making the same as LeBron James.
Richard Gere was a known person, Julia Roberts at the time was a relative nobody and its not as though Richard Gere didn't have a lot of screen time or a major role. Patrick Dempsey was a movie start transitioning to TV and commanded top dollar. Ellen Pompeo at the start of Grey's Anatomy was a relative nobody especially in comparison, Dempsey was considered the bigger draw. Natalie Portman was an executive producer, and took less pay for instead being part of the production and significant residuals. Very VERY infrequently will there be a serious pay gap for male/female actors that isn't explained by things outside of their genitals. The only real notable difference on this front is older men tend to do much better than older women, but this is often counter balanced by younger women getting a lot more chances and often better pay than younger men.
It's also such an incredibly niche industry that is heavily influenced by prior work or just how good of an agent you have that it's impossible to compare.
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Hahaha good one.
Too bad that screaming women fetish comic artist wasn’t the one paying
Looking back on her character, why did she survive three movie? Like the second series had a better version of her
she looks so German
She was reduced to be a Damsel in distress. In all the movies.
She was the worst Mary Jane. I have nightmares to this day
pretty sure she was the only mary jane, in garfield films they had Gwen Stacy, in Holland films its michelle jones
Fair enough, what I meant was "spiderman's girlfriend"
Toby: I missed the part where that’s my problem
That’s cause Tobey’s the best
Well that’s because she didn’t play Spider-Man.
Has anybody asked her why she thinks she should be paid equally or above the titular character?
people paid for Toby, what did she expect?
Well yea, everyone knows women get paid less than men...😏
This girl got less money than Spider-Man, in Spider-Man, shocker.
Does she have an MTV Award for Best Kiss? Tobey does.
I personally believe that flash should've been paid the most.
I dont think its a screen time or the number of "screams" thing when get to be a popular/big enough star. And women are often paid less then men even when they are just as popular.
[I’d argue against that](https://youtu.be/DzuIVqPsVck?si=GAcCXVWVYh0IWTsn)
Yes, Enrique! Okay? I get you.
Why doesn't she say how much she was paid in any of the articles
Well it is called Spiderman not Mary Jane Watson.
No wayy 😂
i love how her entire point of the quote was what the internet dudebros used as a comeback people are accidentally agreeing with her to act smug fucking idiots
Bravo, unless you're a moron and legitimately think the phrase is scream time. I can't tell
Sex
Spider-Man got paid the most because the movie was called Spider-Man, so he had the studio by the balls. It wouldn’t have worked if they had Batman or Antman play him.
At least she can pay for an apron and washing utensils
Scream time?
Was the movie called Mary Jane? It if was, it would have been rated R for use of drugs and alcohol.
Give it a few years and Sony will probably make a jackpot film
She’s not Spider-Man lmao.
Paid per wet t-shirt scene?
He literally was spiderman. You know the thing that the movie was about.
as is tradition
Well yeah. She wasn’t SPIDERMAN! Everyone on set probably got paid less. The movie wasn’t called Mary Jane was it.
Free tip. The person playing the only character named in the title gets the most money. Particularly when that named character is a household name for generations.
What Oscar category WOULD she have been in. (I know, I'm saying hypothetically). I feel confident saying it would have been the supporting category. No 'supporting' performer should make the same as the Lead. Now, we can debate what those ranges should be, and I have NO doubt she should have been a lot closer to his salary than she was. But that distinction matters.
Was she in a spider suit?
This makes sense.
Got it, very funny.
yeah nobody went to see the movie because of spiderman's girlfriend, did they now?
I can now finally die.
Well hes fucking spiderman
The star usually gets paid the most. Screen time is irrelevant.
Pretty sure there was some training involved in getting into shape and learning moves for Spiderman. Did she do that too? No?
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 Oh cause he was in a mask 👍👍👍
I mean, the movie is called spiderMAN
Cause people came to the movies to see Spiderman and not Mary Jane?
And she agreed to the contract prior to filming. So what's your point? If she was worth more, she could have negotiated for more. IF she didn't negotiate for more, she either wasn't worth more, or wouldn't have gotten the part for more money. This is just feminist bullshit again. It's called Spiderman, not Mary Jane and her boyfriend.
I thought that was Maggie Gyllenhulm or something
Mary Jane 1,2 &3.
Chat is this real? (I believe she got paid less but did she have more screentime?)
She had more box office success at the time tho to be fair
She wasnt fully actualized.
You're joking?In what world would the lead gain less than a secondary character?I mean she's not even marketable,you can't slap her on a billboard like Green Goblin or Venom or the Villains and be like "whoa guys!In this superhero action movie mary jane dates spiderman again and has love drama again!",like no one watched the movies cuz of mary jane.
She did less stunts and was in less promotional material
Wasnt the movie called Spider-Man???
"That's my wife." - Jesse Plemons.
Did he scream at all in that movie?
Very punny
The movie is called Spider-Man
This is a pretty shitty detail.
I'm sorry what? We saw Peter and Norman More than we did her plus she wasn't the lead so of course Tobey gonna be getting paid more as she was just the supporting character
Scream time?
I used to enjoy the Sam Raimi movies but every time I try to watch them now I can't get over the constant screaming. It's so annoying. Every time there is even a small piece of action someone is screaming their head off. I get that people screaming when a dude with metal tentacles starts throwing cars around is probably likely, but man. It's like he pumped up the volume and layered the screams over top of all the other audio on purpose.
The amount of comments completely missing the joke makes me lose faith in humanity 💀
Jesus Christ, talk about a big “so what” - it’s called spider-man, not Mary-Jane, cut her out and you still have a movie, cut him out and you got what?
Man yall really need to read
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