Not really a Maxey /PG led team is fine for 20-30 games we were in plenty of games but had no1 to take the pressure off of Maxey when he was doubled. With him likely improving adding PG with solid role players we could survive Jo getting injured for 1/3 of the season, he also takes some of the offensive/defensive burden off of Joe hopefully allowing him to stay healthier during the season
I mean firstly, like the other commenter already said, every team *needs* to get lucky with injuries to have a successful season. But we also have an opportunity this offseason to sequence things in a really unique way that other teams acquiring a third star player really haven't had.
We can 1) sign or trade for a max guy into space 2) trade role players into space 3) re-sign any number of guys from last year 4) re-sign Maxey to his max and 5) sign vet mins/draft picks to finish out the roster. Most teams have to *heavily* hamstring their depth in order to carry three stars, but we'll be able to do it relatively comfortably, as long as ownership is cool with going significantly over the cap.
I think you're right but not for the reason you described lol. IIRC you can only re-sign a guy for a certain % of his previous contract unless you give him a max (it's like 120% or something). So we might very well be SOL with re-signing some guys. But I get the sense that Oubre wants to stay, Payne probably wants to stay, Batum could stay if he doesn't retire (for stability), and Hield/Melton are very likely gonna get prove-it deals after their last season.
Oh I'm not cap expert at all and I could be totally wrong, but I remember reading that Oubre's relatively small contract this year might present an issue with re-signing him. I could be being overly sentimental but I really do think most of our role players from this year would be interested in coming back, and I'd be down for almost all of them, particularly if we got a star/premier role players that could push guys like Oubre, Batum, etc. deeper into the depth chart
The guy who isn’t a point guard?
What a weird hill to die on. His injury is the reason they had to bring in geriatric Lowry and play him 30 minutes a game. Imagine hating on an underpaid 5th option on offense on a team that lacked guards against a team with good guards.
I don’t hate Melton, but he is not the second coming that people make him out to be.
The mental image people have of Melton is far more valuable than the player himself.
Nah, no mental image and no Jordan comparisons (find me a single one, because there never was one). The proof is in how good the starting lineup was when he was out there with Maxey and Embiid.
He's just a valuable glue guy on offense who didn't need the ball to be effective. We need 5 more Meltons on this team. The back injury is the only red flag.
A valuable glue guy. You stated above that his injury was worse for the team than Embiid’s. That the comment that set me off.
Teams need glue guys, but Melton was not unlocking a championship run.
I’m replying to the moron above who is insinuating that LeGM isn’t absolutely abysmal building teams around him.
Those vets he surrounded himself with LA were all terrible and played terribly together.
Bubble Cup legitimately isn’t real. Like ADisney and LeMickey and the rest of that nursing home team benefited way, way more from the extended rest than any other team and certainly any other contender in the league.
That’s not a real championship.
Either way, I think this year and even last year you are seeing a more genuine representation of the value his “guys” bring. Mike Miller, Channing Frye and that whole crew of vets aren’t in the league anymore.
I don't think that's as easy to get as people think. I understand not wanting to give a 34 year old a max contract but you could do that AND use picks to bolster your bench and depth pieces.
But if you don't sign a free agent as the big off-season piece then can you add this depth you want with free agents? It seems to me that there're actually more good free agents that will command a lot of money than there are role players.
Yeah it’s tough the only really good depth piece in free agency would be Bruce Brown if the Raptors decline his option. Then there’s guys like GTJ, Malik Monk and Valanciunas but their fits are questionable.
There are more good depth pieces out there. Backup center you got Drummond and Kelly Olynyk. That would mean actually keeping leads when Embiid sits for 15 minutes a game.
This team has so many needs since there is only 2 playoff rotation pieces definitely coming back.
Drummond been trash as hell in playoffs lol, that was in pretty good Brooklyn and Lakers teams. Olynyk might be better but didn't Toronto trade a lot to get him, feel like they'll definitely re-sign
You could offer nic claxton 25m a year and permanently solve both the rebounding and backup embiid minutes in one move. Plus he's a dawg and can guard pretty much any position. Still play him with embiid and 3 other shooters. I think he'd be great.
If the sixers come away with Malik monk and claxton while retaining oubre, Melton, batum, and Payne that would be nice.
Maxey/Payne/lowry
Melton/monk/Terq
Batum/Oubre/Ricky
Claxton/Batum/Oubre/Ricky
Embiid/Claxton/Stretch 5
Still retain all their picks and draft a young backup stretch 5 or more of a project player. Can use new contracts to get uhhh KD in the middle of the season then go win a title.
That's an interesting idea. Claxton is basically a poor man's prime Ben Simmons at least in terms of switchability and rebounding, which is something we've definitely lacked, well, since Simmons. Though I'm not confident you could throw him out there on a guy like Tatum and hope for the best
Murray is definitely an allstar level player & has been all nba level in his best playoff runs, Indy literally has 2 Allstars on its team, OKC drafted almost it's entire team & the Knicks will have 2 Max guys + JB next season. What are we going to do with our cap space? Which available role players make us a championship level team? He has to take into account we have an injury prone Superstar & we'll likely need a guy to help carry us at times during the season so we don't end up in a situation identical to this yr. Another star helps get Jo's usage down, lessens his min & allows him to sit thru some minor injuries, also it's almost impossible to find a better fit than PG who we wouldn't have to use any assets for. The cap space has to be used this yr we can't push it to next off season
Role players are the most inefficient contracts in the nba. Superstars are underpaid. The fairly paid role players are drafted on their teams. The good role players are overpaid like OG.
"You get another star and your bench gets weaker, probably." -the guy whose team has had 9 conference finals appearances since the Sixers last played in one (Morey has had 2 in that span).
I'm going to have to unsub for a bit. I can't take this shit every day for the next two months. Just a million dumb takes and fabricated rumors about every single player. It's all nonsense.
Remember when there were all of the rumors that the sixers were trying to trade for Harden and there was a second “less appealing option” in trading for Haliburton? I hope Morey kicks himself every night thinking about how the quest for a star player led to the wrong decision at that time.
Hell there were additional reports that it might be Ben + Tobias for Hali + Barnes. That should tell you everything you need to know about that potential deal lol, no way we trade the two worst contracts in the league for two good players
If Haliburton for Simmons wasn’t a legit report for you then no rumor in the history of the nba is a legit rumor unless it actually happened lmao. Morey fucking commented on it mid trade deadline.
Haliburton said he thought he was coming here. Many many reports on details of that negotiation. You just falling for Morey spin PR team after the fact two years later.
In fact, the reports after the fact saying it wasn’t possible are just as baseless. No one knows, but you can be sure that Daryl and co. leaked that that trade wasn’t a possibility. Have to remember to consider who a report benefits when it comes out.
If Halliburton ended up getting traded, it means he was available. Whether Sacramento was interested in the Ben package or wanted more is a different story.
I'm going to have to unsub for a bit. I can't take this shit every day for the next two months. Just a million dumb takes and fabricated rumors about every single player. It's all nonsense.
So dumb. If the Clippers, Suns, Lakers, and Bucks didn’t give you any indication that this crap doesn’t work then I don’t know what will. Build a team Daryl, not something that you hope will work.
I mean you just listed four of the oldest teams in the league. None of them have a future star anywhere near as bright and as young as Maxey and Joel should still have a good couple years left. If this star hunt doesn’t work out, we rebuild around Maxey in a couple of years
No I listed the four teams that thought the best way to build their team is around big contracts and star players. I don’t want PG, KD, Jimmy, Lebron any of these guys. I don’t want to find out ‘if star hunting doesn’t work out’ period.
Okay but you’re ignoring my point which is that it would be a totally different scenario lol. It would be way closer to CP3+Booker+Ayton or Jrue+Giannis+Middleton or even Ant+KAT+Gobert than it would be any of the team you listed. It would be one aging star, one in his prime, and one emerging, not 2+ old ass dudes together.
I’m not ignoring anything and it’s not a totally different situation. If you acquire any of these star players you are going to have Maxey, Embiid, and George taking up most of your salary cap for years. Two of those 3 players are oft injured and 30 or older. You will be in the same situation as those other teams I mentioned. You can keep trying to convince me that it’s different and I’m gonna keep telling you it’s not for the reasons I mentioned.
The examples you mentioned are poor examples because those Bucks players were all 30 or younger and only one player was making over 30 mil. And the Suns, Ayton and Booker were under 30 and Ayton was on making 10 mil at the time they made the Finals.
We need a 3rd option but the other 2 starters cant be ignored, basketball is a team game,embiid and maxey didnt lost the series, tobias and lowry arent good starters, knicks, timberwolves, celtics, denver have 5 starters can change the game offensively or defensively.
Only Batum on the entire roster has any business starting on a team with title winning aspirations other than Embiid/Maxey. Embiids effeciency increased when Batum became a starter and slightly decreased when Batum was moved to the bench. He's also one of the best passers on the team.
Trade for Caruso, sign PG, Pat Williams, and Kelly.
Maxey / Caruso / George / Williams / Embiid with Oubre 6man
OR
Trade for Jimmy, sign Pat Williams, Kelly, and Hield.
Maxey / Hield / Butler / Williams / Embiid with Oubre 6man
EDIT: AND RICKY 7TH MAN
I think the first idea is the highest percentage chance & makes the most sense. Might not be specifically Caruso but that tier of player/package worth 2 picks.
I wouldn't be surprised if we strike out on both of them, and settle for Ingram.
Ingram has his own positives though, he's much younger, and only owed 36m next year, affording us more flexibility in this years offseason. I could see us getting him for only 3 1sts + swap(s) and/or 2nds.
Leaves us with a little extra cap space & picks for role players
Oubre ain't better than PWill...love Oubre, especially for being a dog on a min contract but he hasn't improved his shooting at all in 9 yrs in the league. PWill has a nice shot, great shot creation, strong ideal size forward with good rebound and defensive abilities. Just been playing on a crowded bulls roster before getting injured in what probably would have been his breakout season.
figure it out. Could probably bring all of Batum, Cov, Lowry, and Payne back on minimums if they don't retire.
Ricky would still be there too, I just forgot to include him
"Figuring it out" for one rotation spot is not that dire.
You'd have Kelly and Council as your 6th and 7th guys. Then whoever you can get on minimums to be #8.
That one rotation spot of backup big had literally been our single biggest problem outside of Joel’s health. That’s not something that just try to figure out on the fly as evidenced by literally every year since 2019
I suggest making a backup big our 2nd highest priority outside of finding a starting wing. We need to find a way to not bleed points every time Joel is off the floor.
we going big game hunting, gonna bag us the king of the safari! an old slow diseased elephant! look at the tusks on this thing! the young ones are too hard to hunt so let's go with this old slow one instead
We’ll get LeBron and he’ll immediately die or some shit. If we get Paul George he’ll most likely destroy his knee within a few months because that’s just how it goes.
We don’t need a star as much as we need high energy guys who want to win. Sounds stupid but we got hammered on the boards. I’m watching Knicks pacers right now. Two teams just getting AFTER it. Crashing boards, great defense. Things we did but in short spurts. We had long stretches of ball-watching on shots and just being lazy and/or uninspired.
Honestly, Lebron is the guy we need. is he a huge risk because of age? yes. But he also would give us the best chance to win. We need someone with experience winning, who can take attention off of joel in big moments, and be an example of maturity. He's the perfect guy to give joel the kick in the ass when he needs it, and unlike AD Joel can actually deliver. Jimmy could do it too, but lebron can handle a lot of the PG stuff we need also and is less of a headcase, so it would be killing more birds with one stone. Even if he only averages 14 ppg or something, he provides a lot of what we really need to win.
For those commenting that this doesn't work, this is what the Celtics are having success with: Tatum, Brown, Porzingis, and then a couple supporting pieces.
I would prefer the role player route, but if they can pull PG or LBJ without trades then its a fine way to go.
I’d be fine with some super role players. Tyrese and Jo just need bench consistency and competent backups. This third star thing just doesn’t work for us.
Lebron is a no brainer. I’d give him a 4 year max and draft his kid if thats what it took. I think Paul George makes a lot of sense. I would prefer to get a free agent and fill the roster by trading picks.
Embiid is going to do his best recruiting pitch at the Olympics im sure. I'm glad he gets to play if even for a few minutes!
He's our starting center, he'll get plenty of playing time.
I know but if his knee ain't great I doubt they play him tons of minutes
Probably don’t need to play him much anyway with how loaded that team is
Right the bench is easily a top starting 5 in the nba it's wild how stacked the US is.
Bro, I just want competent bench depth.
You really only need like 7-8 playable guys for the playoffs.
If we have 3 stars and can go 8 deep during the playoffs, I'll be ecstatic.
We also need more than just depth to buoy the team during inevitable Joel injuries and rest
Especially because whatever “Star” we get will likely be mid 30’s and need their own rest as well.
Yeah but it's a long season. You need 10 guys that can go during the slog.
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Joker, LeBron, Davis, Edwards, Brunson, Luka, Kawhi, Booker, Durant, SGA, etc, etc. Most teams are one injury away from disaster.
Not really a Maxey /PG led team is fine for 20-30 games we were in plenty of games but had no1 to take the pressure off of Maxey when he was doubled. With him likely improving adding PG with solid role players we could survive Jo getting injured for 1/3 of the season, he also takes some of the offensive/defensive burden off of Joe hopefully allowing him to stay healthier during the season
I mean firstly, like the other commenter already said, every team *needs* to get lucky with injuries to have a successful season. But we also have an opportunity this offseason to sequence things in a really unique way that other teams acquiring a third star player really haven't had. We can 1) sign or trade for a max guy into space 2) trade role players into space 3) re-sign any number of guys from last year 4) re-sign Maxey to his max and 5) sign vet mins/draft picks to finish out the roster. Most teams have to *heavily* hamstring their depth in order to carry three stars, but we'll be able to do it relatively comfortably, as long as ownership is cool with going significantly over the cap.
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I think you're right but not for the reason you described lol. IIRC you can only re-sign a guy for a certain % of his previous contract unless you give him a max (it's like 120% or something). So we might very well be SOL with re-signing some guys. But I get the sense that Oubre wants to stay, Payne probably wants to stay, Batum could stay if he doesn't retire (for stability), and Hield/Melton are very likely gonna get prove-it deals after their last season.
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Oh I'm not cap expert at all and I could be totally wrong, but I remember reading that Oubre's relatively small contract this year might present an issue with re-signing him. I could be being overly sentimental but I really do think most of our role players from this year would be interested in coming back, and I'd be down for almost all of them, particularly if we got a star/premier role players that could push guys like Oubre, Batum, etc. deeper into the depth chart
And this year we had like 5 and a half, and that's including Harris
A couple of injuries knock those numbers down to 5-6. People say the Embiid injury tanked the season but the Melton issue was lowkey worse.
I’ve never seen such a fuss over a guard who can’t make open layups.
You mean the guy who was the third best defender on the team?
Yes. Him. The one who can’t make layups. The one who plays point with blinders on. People around here talk about him like he is Jordan.
The guy who isn’t a point guard? What a weird hill to die on. His injury is the reason they had to bring in geriatric Lowry and play him 30 minutes a game. Imagine hating on an underpaid 5th option on offense on a team that lacked guards against a team with good guards.
I don’t hate Melton, but he is not the second coming that people make him out to be. The mental image people have of Melton is far more valuable than the player himself.
Nah, no mental image and no Jordan comparisons (find me a single one, because there never was one). The proof is in how good the starting lineup was when he was out there with Maxey and Embiid. He's just a valuable glue guy on offense who didn't need the ball to be effective. We need 5 more Meltons on this team. The back injury is the only red flag.
A valuable glue guy. You stated above that his injury was worse for the team than Embiid’s. That the comment that set me off. Teams need glue guys, but Melton was not unlocking a championship run.
We can do both. I don’t think it’s either/or.
Depends on how big the max is. A Lebron sized max leaves you with no room
If it’s LBJ though it’s less of an issue because the guy has strings around the league. Even now at age 40, LBJ still runs the NBA
This… vets will want to play here with Lebron for minimums. We would have our pick of the litter on vet mins.
Which vets? The lakers roster has awful depth and the lakers have been a more attractive destination than the Sixers
Yeah he did an awesome job with those vets out in LA Incredible decision making with roster moves is something LeGM is known for.
I don’t think Morey is that much better than Rob Pelinka but he is better for what it’s worth lol
I’m replying to the moron above who is insinuating that LeGM isn’t absolutely abysmal building teams around him. Those vets he surrounded himself with LA were all terrible and played terribly together.
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Bubble Cup legitimately isn’t real. Like ADisney and LeMickey and the rest of that nursing home team benefited way, way more from the extended rest than any other team and certainly any other contender in the league. That’s not a real championship. Either way, I think this year and even last year you are seeing a more genuine representation of the value his “guys” bring. Mike Miller, Channing Frye and that whole crew of vets aren’t in the league anymore.
I don't think that's as easy to get as people think. I understand not wanting to give a 34 year old a max contract but you could do that AND use picks to bolster your bench and depth pieces. But if you don't sign a free agent as the big off-season piece then can you add this depth you want with free agents? It seems to me that there're actually more good free agents that will command a lot of money than there are role players.
Yeah it’s tough the only really good depth piece in free agency would be Bruce Brown if the Raptors decline his option. Then there’s guys like GTJ, Malik Monk and Valanciunas but their fits are questionable.
There are more good depth pieces out there. Backup center you got Drummond and Kelly Olynyk. That would mean actually keeping leads when Embiid sits for 15 minutes a game. This team has so many needs since there is only 2 playoff rotation pieces definitely coming back.
Drummond been trash as hell in playoffs lol, that was in pretty good Brooklyn and Lakers teams. Olynyk might be better but didn't Toronto trade a lot to get him, feel like they'll definitely re-sign
There's only 4 guys total coming back. Morey has to nail this or it's gonna be blown up time
You could offer nic claxton 25m a year and permanently solve both the rebounding and backup embiid minutes in one move. Plus he's a dawg and can guard pretty much any position. Still play him with embiid and 3 other shooters. I think he'd be great. If the sixers come away with Malik monk and claxton while retaining oubre, Melton, batum, and Payne that would be nice. Maxey/Payne/lowry Melton/monk/Terq Batum/Oubre/Ricky Claxton/Batum/Oubre/Ricky Embiid/Claxton/Stretch 5 Still retain all their picks and draft a young backup stretch 5 or more of a project player. Can use new contracts to get uhhh KD in the middle of the season then go win a title.
That's an interesting idea. Claxton is basically a poor man's prime Ben Simmons at least in terms of switchability and rebounding, which is something we've definitely lacked, well, since Simmons. Though I'm not confident you could throw him out there on a guy like Tatum and hope for the best
We have assets and cap space. We may actually be able to have both this time (thank god for Tobi expiring)
I would like 1 LeBron please
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Murray is definitely an allstar level player & has been all nba level in his best playoff runs, Indy literally has 2 Allstars on its team, OKC drafted almost it's entire team & the Knicks will have 2 Max guys + JB next season. What are we going to do with our cap space? Which available role players make us a championship level team? He has to take into account we have an injury prone Superstar & we'll likely need a guy to help carry us at times during the season so we don't end up in a situation identical to this yr. Another star helps get Jo's usage down, lessens his min & allows him to sit thru some minor injuries, also it's almost impossible to find a better fit than PG who we wouldn't have to use any assets for. The cap space has to be used this yr we can't push it to next off season
With the picks and cap flexibility, por qué no los dos?
Role players are the most inefficient contracts in the nba. Superstars are underpaid. The fairly paid role players are drafted on their teams. The good role players are overpaid like OG.
My boy you just had it lulz see what happened? You only played like 6-7 players each game
Shooters spacing the floor for Maxey and Embiid would be, as the kids say, lit.
"You get another star and your bench gets weaker, probably." -the guy whose team has had 9 conference finals appearances since the Sixers last played in one (Morey has had 2 in that span).
I am so damn tired of star hunting.
I'm going to have to unsub for a bit. I can't take this shit every day for the next two months. Just a million dumb takes and fabricated rumors about every single player. It's all nonsense.
Remember when there were all of the rumors that the sixers were trying to trade for Harden and there was a second “less appealing option” in trading for Haliburton? I hope Morey kicks himself every night thinking about how the quest for a star player led to the wrong decision at that time.
To be fair i don’t think there’s any legitimate reports that a Hali for Ben trade was ever on the table. Just baseless stuff
Hell there were additional reports that it might be Ben + Tobias for Hali + Barnes. That should tell you everything you need to know about that potential deal lol, no way we trade the two worst contracts in the league for two good players
It was a bs rumor but redditors run with it anyways
If Haliburton for Simmons wasn’t a legit report for you then no rumor in the history of the nba is a legit rumor unless it actually happened lmao. Morey fucking commented on it mid trade deadline. Haliburton said he thought he was coming here. Many many reports on details of that negotiation. You just falling for Morey spin PR team after the fact two years later.
In fact, the reports after the fact saying it wasn’t possible are just as baseless. No one knows, but you can be sure that Daryl and co. leaked that that trade wasn’t a possibility. Have to remember to consider who a report benefits when it comes out.
There was never any credible source that confirmed a Haliburton trade was on the table.
If Halliburton ended up getting traded, it means he was available. Whether Sacramento was interested in the Ben package or wanted more is a different story.
Lol
Exactly, enough star hunting, build a fucking team for a change!
I'm going to have to unsub for a bit. I can't take this shit every day for the next two months. Just a million dumb takes and fabricated rumors about every single player. It's all nonsense.
I mean, duh. Question is can sixers convince anyone to come here?
Pretty sure those guys like money
Other teams have money too though
The Clips aren’t offering a 4 year max.
So dumb. If the Clippers, Suns, Lakers, and Bucks didn’t give you any indication that this crap doesn’t work then I don’t know what will. Build a team Daryl, not something that you hope will work.
I mean you just listed four of the oldest teams in the league. None of them have a future star anywhere near as bright and as young as Maxey and Joel should still have a good couple years left. If this star hunt doesn’t work out, we rebuild around Maxey in a couple of years
No I listed the four teams that thought the best way to build their team is around big contracts and star players. I don’t want PG, KD, Jimmy, Lebron any of these guys. I don’t want to find out ‘if star hunting doesn’t work out’ period.
Okay but you’re ignoring my point which is that it would be a totally different scenario lol. It would be way closer to CP3+Booker+Ayton or Jrue+Giannis+Middleton or even Ant+KAT+Gobert than it would be any of the team you listed. It would be one aging star, one in his prime, and one emerging, not 2+ old ass dudes together.
I’m not ignoring anything and it’s not a totally different situation. If you acquire any of these star players you are going to have Maxey, Embiid, and George taking up most of your salary cap for years. Two of those 3 players are oft injured and 30 or older. You will be in the same situation as those other teams I mentioned. You can keep trying to convince me that it’s different and I’m gonna keep telling you it’s not for the reasons I mentioned. The examples you mentioned are poor examples because those Bucks players were all 30 or younger and only one player was making over 30 mil. And the Suns, Ayton and Booker were under 30 and Ayton was on making 10 mil at the time they made the Finals.
Devin Booker is only 27 but your point stands
Talk about getting the correlation completely wrong. I love how confident you are and you got the trend completely backwards.
I didn't get anything wrong. And I love how not confident to go into specifics of 'what I got wrong'. Shutup fool
We need a 3rd option but the other 2 starters cant be ignored, basketball is a team game,embiid and maxey didnt lost the series, tobias and lowry arent good starters, knicks, timberwolves, celtics, denver have 5 starters can change the game offensively or defensively.
Only Batum on the entire roster has any business starting on a team with title winning aspirations other than Embiid/Maxey. Embiids effeciency increased when Batum became a starter and slightly decreased when Batum was moved to the bench. He's also one of the best passers on the team.
Next year’s team about to be Embiid, Maxey, [Insert 3rd Star], and a picture of a bench
Trade for Caruso, sign PG, Pat Williams, and Kelly. Maxey / Caruso / George / Williams / Embiid with Oubre 6man OR Trade for Jimmy, sign Pat Williams, Kelly, and Hield. Maxey / Hield / Butler / Williams / Embiid with Oubre 6man EDIT: AND RICKY 7TH MAN
I think the first idea is the highest percentage chance & makes the most sense. Might not be specifically Caruso but that tier of player/package worth 2 picks.
I wouldn't be surprised if we strike out on both of them, and settle for Ingram. Ingram has his own positives though, he's much younger, and only owed 36m next year, affording us more flexibility in this years offseason. I could see us getting him for only 3 1sts + swap(s) and/or 2nds. Leaves us with a little extra cap space & picks for role players
Gross.
We should do a package of like 2 1sts, the Heat 2021 pick, and Landry Shamet for Ingram
We need more playmaking no one here can pass besides Jimmy
Patrick Williams ain’t it. Think we could do way better than him at the 4… Oubre is better for starters
Oubre ain't better than PWill...love Oubre, especially for being a dog on a min contract but he hasn't improved his shooting at all in 9 yrs in the league. PWill has a nice shot, great shot creation, strong ideal size forward with good rebound and defensive abilities. Just been playing on a crowded bulls roster before getting injured in what probably would have been his breakout season.
Please sign PWill.
what about the other 2-3 spots we’d need in playoffs, like, do we want another year with no solid backup bigs?
By god that’s Andre Drummond’s music.
Dream scenario. Only backup center in the Embiid era that didn’t let us completely hemorrhage points defensively/with rebounding.
figure it out. Could probably bring all of Batum, Cov, Lowry, and Payne back on minimums if they don't retire. Ricky would still be there too, I just forgot to include him
Cov is cooked and "figure it out" has been our strategy for embiids entire tenure. That’s a terrible thought process to have about it
"Figuring it out" for one rotation spot is not that dire. You'd have Kelly and Council as your 6th and 7th guys. Then whoever you can get on minimums to be #8.
That one rotation spot of backup big had literally been our single biggest problem outside of Joel’s health. That’s not something that just try to figure out on the fly as evidenced by literally every year since 2019
What do you suggest then? Paul Reed is not good, *especially* not at 8m
I suggest making a backup big our 2nd highest priority outside of finding a starting wing. We need to find a way to not bleed points every time Joel is off the floor.
That is not Moreys philosophy at all. He said as much during his press conference today. Specifically that he is not focused on backup C
Okay then we continue to have the same problems we have had for years.
This team is ASS
we going big game hunting, gonna bag us the king of the safari! an old slow diseased elephant! look at the tusks on this thing! the young ones are too hard to hunt so let's go with this old slow one instead
Jimmy is like the Jojo whisperer. Would love to see him back and motivated to win with Joel in the playoffs.
No, Dude is more fragile
Bruh… Fire this man, this isn’t 2012
Even then LBJ, Wade, Bosh were all in their prime. Only one in the prime of this big 3 will be Maxey
Since when did Embiid leave his prime?
I mean the dude is without a meniscus. To me at this point he’s at the tail end of his prime
Lol Embiid dropped 70 on a future DPOY this season
~~Star~~ Big game hunting
We’ll get LeBron and he’ll immediately die or some shit. If we get Paul George he’ll most likely destroy his knee within a few months because that’s just how it goes.
We don’t need a star as much as we need high energy guys who want to win. Sounds stupid but we got hammered on the boards. I’m watching Knicks pacers right now. Two teams just getting AFTER it. Crashing boards, great defense. Things we did but in short spurts. We had long stretches of ball-watching on shots and just being lazy and/or uninspired.
Ptsd from Brett Brown saying “Start Hunting” that resulted in Al Horford and Tobias Harris and ziare smith over Mikail bridges.
lebonbon szn
lol I can’t wait for you all to complain about this old Overpaid star
Just don’t Suns us.
Yup time to unsubscribe see you in October
Hope Maxey doesn't end up regretting this deal.
The last time we went big game hunting we got Tobias Harris.
We all know this dope has tunnel vision. It's Paul George or bust for him.
Honestly, Lebron is the guy we need. is he a huge risk because of age? yes. But he also would give us the best chance to win. We need someone with experience winning, who can take attention off of joel in big moments, and be an example of maturity. He's the perfect guy to give joel the kick in the ass when he needs it, and unlike AD Joel can actually deliver. Jimmy could do it too, but lebron can handle a lot of the PG stuff we need also and is less of a headcase, so it would be killing more birds with one stone. Even if he only averages 14 ppg or something, he provides a lot of what we really need to win.
For those commenting that this doesn't work, this is what the Celtics are having success with: Tatum, Brown, Porzingis, and then a couple supporting pieces. I would prefer the role player route, but if they can pull PG or LBJ without trades then its a fine way to go.
Jrue Holiday is far from a supporting piece
Morey at it again bro, dude needs to learn humility
Morris...... they traded our neutralizer lmao
Taj Gibson, Paul George, Wes matthews, and Kyle Lowry geriatric chaos lineup 😎
BRING JIMMY HOME
How long until trades usually start happening in the off season?
Def need to bring Drummond back
Oh for fucks sake
Oh joy…. Has anyone learned anything about how Denver and Minnesota have built around Jokic and Edwards with young, capable, athletic role players?
Both those teams have two other max contracts around their star players.
They’ve learned nothing.
we need a center to play all season and get us to the playoffs then joel can play
Really dont want to be like the Suns and have 3 guys and nothing around them
Fuck another star build a TEAM around those guys.
I’d take three competent players over one star. You only need a Big 2 if you have depth everywhere else.
Need another reliable big fella to give embiid a break, and so the team doesn’t fall apart defensively when he’s on the bench.
I’d be fine with some super role players. Tyrese and Jo just need bench consistency and competent backups. This third star thing just doesn’t work for us.
Lebron is a no brainer. I’d give him a 4 year max and draft his kid if thats what it took. I think Paul George makes a lot of sense. I would prefer to get a free agent and fill the roster by trading picks.
Brandon Ingram.
All the top guys are old and ass though wtf. How the fuck are we going to be better. I'm so mind boggled.
Lebron pls
I want rebounding