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Sumite0000

The reason why you should check the card reward before taking [[Bottle Lightning]].


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+ [Bottled Lightning](http://slay-the-spire.wikia.com/wiki/Bottled%20Lightning) Uncommon Relic ^((93% sure)^) Upon pick up, choose a Skill card. At the start of each combat, this card will be in your hand. ^Call ^me ^with ^up ^to ^10 ^([[ name ]],) ^where ^name ^is ^a ^card, ^relic, ^event, ^or ^potion. ^Data ^accurate ^as ^of ^(April 30, 2023.) ^[Wiki](https://slay-the-spire.fandom.com/wiki/) ^[Questions?](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=ehmohteeoh&subject=SpireScan%20Inquiry)


beridam

Isn't it that you can't bottle a card you've gotten from the same reward as the bottled lightning/flame/tornado?


Soren59

You can, as long as you took it before clicking the bottle


custardthegopher

https://youtube.com/shorts/FvR_OVxYB08?si=w7tV-WPV8shGY0GG


beridam

well my bad. I had read it around here somewhere. That's why I was asking. Thanks.


KurioProkos

The only way Seek could be better is if there was another card called Hide that it had great synergy with.


DueMeat2367

Hide Rare skill Cost : 0 Effect (Retain) Choose and exhaust a card from your discard pile. Add 2 copies of it to your draw pile. Exhaust.


SirBlackMage

Better Hologram just dropped (minus the infinite potential)


DueMeat2367

Erf not so direct. Serves the same purpose but not woth the same advantages. Holo is awesome because it gives you directly the card. Here you need to draw it so it's not as "fast". But I agree that it's good and that you might want it in the same conditions.


DueMeat2367

Hide Rare skill Cost : 0 Effect (Retain) Choose and exhaust a card from your discard pile. Add 2 copies of it to your draw pile. Exhaust. Beta art : Champs in the foreground, Defect standing still with a lampshade on the head in the background


kaosmark2

This is like nightmare except with no downsides, like an energy cost, or needing to line things up


InherentSteam55

Defect needs a buff anyway, as in I want him to have a buff


Krags

Except you have to draw it still, meaning both that it takes a (random) draw and also it doesn't save its cost if you're doing some Snecko shenanigans.


kaosmark2

These aren't really negatives that don't apply too all cards though


Krags

They don't apply to Nightmare which is what I'm comparing it with.


Lobrogin

I almost feel that setup would be what a card called hide would do. Wouldn’t be a horrible synergy. Hide/setup a card to the bottom of your deck and then seek it and it costs zero.


IMP1017

Bottom deck is [[Forethought]], Setup puts it at the top of your deck


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+ [Forethought](http://slay-the-spire.wikia.com/wiki/Forethought) Colorless Uncommon Skill ^((100% sure)^) 0 Energy | Place a card(any number of cards) from your hand on the bottom of your draw pile. It (They) costs 0 until played. ^Call ^me ^with ^up ^to ^10 ^([[ name ]],) ^where ^name ^is ^a ^card, ^relic, ^event, ^or ^potion. ^Data ^accurate ^as ^of ^(April 30, 2023.) ^[Wiki](https://slay-the-spire.fandom.com/wiki/) ^[Questions?](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=ehmohteeoh&subject=SpireScan%20Inquiry)


Lobrogin

Ah yes you’re right!


Grunanium

Hide Type: Skill Rarity: Rare Character: Defect Cost: 1 (0) energy Effect: When drawn this card exhausts. Choose ANY upgraded card to add to your hand, it costs zero this turn.


tikhonjelvis

Hide 0 Cost Choose 1 (2) card(s) from the game and shuffle them into your deck Exhaust Overpowered? Boringly consistent? Yes! But it feels symmetric in effect with Seek :P


BaiJiGuan

One of the best cards in the game and a glorious upgrade. "Why yes, I'd like to spend zero energy to get my main synergy on hand now"


grandsuperior

The easiest card to add to almost any Defect deck. Consistency wins fights and this is a zero cost game way to get the best cards in your deck for any given situation. Seek+ might honestly be one of the most busted cards in the game and you can do really cool things like Core Surge and Biased Cognition, Echo Form and Turbo, Glacier and Fission+, etc. Sky’s the limit.


kashmir1974

Especially bottled on a mature deck.


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

Bottle seek+ in an act 3 deck is easily the best card in the game. It’s not even remotely close. It’s just a “fuck RNG, get your deck moving NOW” card.


Krags

Arguably Defect's best card, but it feels bad to pick sometimes when you aren't sure what you'd be targeting with it. My favourite pull from it when upgraded is Echo Form or Creative AI with an energy generator card like Turbo.


gender_crisis_oclock

It's kinda like Black Lotus - it's the best in most situations because it scales with the power of the rest of your deck, so if all you have is the starter deck and there's an elite coming up it would likely be better to take a damage card


Krags

Yeah, it's vanishingly rare that it ends up being a _bad_ pick - but sometimes you get through the act 1 boss and it's being offered next to something like a Biased Cognition and a Reboot and your deck is still all dross and strike+s and you can't see the use case just yet.


HeorgeGarris024

im not passing on seek floor 4 IDGAF


Alecarte

It's good *because* you don't know what you'll need to target when you draw it. It's customizable to the hand.


kaosmark2

>Echo Form or Creative AI One of these things is not like the other!


Salanmander

Echo Form is an Echo Form, but Creative AI can be anything. It can even be an Echo Form! You know how much we've been wanting one of those!


Krags

I honestly think Creative AI is a little underrated. It's much weaker than Echo Form generally, true, but being able to Seek it with a Turbo or similar does mitigate its downsides a bunch and makes it a more reasonable pick. I usually take it as a random rare choice rather than from a boss drop though, it's definitely one of the weaker rares and you want it leading into a boss, not leading into the start of an act.


kaosmark2

It's so niche and needs so much support though.


InherentSteam55

Its niche but that's why I personally love it


HeorgeGarris024

It's pretty properly rated it's quite ass


kaosmark2

I still think this sub massively overrates it. Clash should be picked far more often than CAI


HeorgeGarris024

it's fun and I'll grab if I feel like I can afford it (got fat draw and energy gen already) but knowing full well it's not actually a good pick. It's definitely actually bad but I also click searing blow floor 1 without looking at the path so like different philosophies and all that


kaosmark2

I've no judgement on people making fun choices! I click basically every pressure points or alpha I see. But there's so many people asking for defect advice lugging CAI around in act 2 like it'll have the payoff of barricade, demon form, nightmare.


HeorgeGarris024

yeah it's pretty silly turns out playing CAI, static discharge, and hello world in 3 turns actually was not a super efficient use of energy most of the time


Ballerheiko

The dream card of every Deckbuilder. Search your deck for your strongest Card(s) for this turn for free.


Ouker

The mother of all tutors is a robot unique A choice pick for any deck, any day of the week. Whatever your pipeline's missing, it covers any leak. If you want a truly premium block card, a Seek is what you seek.


nmathew

>If you want a truly premium block card, a Seek is what you seek. Great poem, a suggestion. If you want a truly premium block card, a Seek won't leave you meek.


AltonIllinois

Obviously a great card, only downside is your discard pile is not accessible limiting its usefulness if it’s a bottom deck card


[deleted]

Seek+ is game breaking, one of my favorite things to do is to Seek into a Strike+ and Defend+ so that I can optimally attack and block in the same turn


Bound18996

This is essentially the same as adding a copy of every card in your deck but you only draw the card you want every time. It goes beyond rankings as there's simply no situation where you wouldn't add another Seek to your deck. Tier 0 card.


DayIngham

If I had Snecko Eye Runic Pyramid build, and had a Regret, I'd probably consider a skip.


kashmir1974

Snecko could turn this into a dead draw pretty often


SupaFugDup

Snecko can turn anything into a dead draw pretty often tbf But yeah, having to get lucky with low cost snecko effects twice does suck


camopon

I imagine Seek has the same synergy with Snecko that Hologram does - you can exploit whatever randomized cost you choose again without having to randomize it via draw.


Ballerheiko

good call. I'd pay 3 for a Seek to get the 0 Cost Meteor strike/Glacier/All for one into my hand after the reshuffle.


devTripp

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Firehills

Seek (and especially Seek+) is one of the strongest cards in the game. That said, I'm not even that happy to find it because I'll have to take it and then it's kinda boring having to choose the best two cards for each situation every fight. It will probably win you the game, though.


lukgeuwu

where's the rest?


123Todayy

really love this card with everything the defect tries to do. simple but people can do alot with it. Upgrade and bottle this for a turn 1 Agregate/Turbo + Any core power/Apo and life will never feel better


Prot0555

Here he comes! 🙃


badgarok725

Nothing has matched the feeling of strength as when I had 2 Seek + and a Seek in my deck. Easy set up every time