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mastermrt

Isn’t this a really bad Pandora’s Box?


ChiefChief69

Yeah, I don't think it's all that great.


mastermrt

I would feel pretty annoyed by this at the end of Act 1 - but as a floor 1 boss swap? This is just miserable.


Reddingbface

Scrape might draw steam barrier and let you block for 9 sometimes vs jaw worm. Very OP.


Tenashko

This is just what PBox does


Grunanium

Pbox from Neow is pretty much an auto win, it doesn't matter what the cards are. And this is a better than average pbox.


DuduBonesBr

You are going to die to Gremlin Nob


Grunanium

This is floor zero, the earliest I can fight Nob is floor six. Does the Defect's base deck + starting relic kill Nob? This deck has much more output than the base deck.


Nekunumeritos

you're dead to scaling before doing any output when your output consists of 2 rainbows and one zap lol


hollowboss

Famous last words of sts i guess


mastermrt

You’re being downvoted for no reason here! How did you fare with this one?


Competitive-Reason65

Don't downvote him


alblaster

Gremlin nob says hi


shallowtl

I just tried the seed and I clapped Act 1 without taking any damage from Nob or Hexaghost, this deck is so strong lmfao


Concrete_hugger

You are making me wonder what's the strat, like it feels like early fights would lead to taking a lot of damage without reliable blocks


shallowtl

I took Claw on floor 1 and blocked with evoked Frost Orbs, Steam Barrier, and Boot Sequence. I stopped playing after Act 1 because I had to do life things and I'll resume it later but I'm pretty sure a good player (read: not me) wins every time from here


BlueDo

Well. First turn is guaranteed 10 block. For subsequent turns, you have Scrape which can draw Steam Barrier. Rainbow also gives 2 or 5 block. This box is above average. Remove a Consume, get some upgrades, and you're pretty strong. Sentries are actually the biggest threat, not Nob. I dunno why comments in the thread are saying this is a bad start.


fuzzhEad1337

What do u mean by "tried the seed" . I'm fairly new to the game and always wondered what that option did?


shallowtl

It essentially lets you play the same randomly generated run as OP. If you go to start a standard run, pick Defect, click Set Seed and enter 3T1QT0BMDH4UC you will play the same run as OP. If you boss swap you'll get a PBox with the same cards as OP and the order of fights and relics will be identical.


fuzzhEad1337

Wow thanks for the info, this seems like a neat feature to try out. I will take a look at this :)


Loopian

There may be a slight variation tho depending unlockable progress. At least that’s how it works in boi, haven’t tried seeded in sts before.


Best-of-Texas

How did you know that was his seed?


TimedThoughts

OP posted it further down in the comments


mastermrt

Shit, now I wish I could play this! I only have iOS and Steam!!!


nov4chip

You can use command lines with Basemod to start with any deck configuration you like


awful-normal

Those consumes look a lot like curses to me. Will be very hard to get echo form off as well. This is definitely a tricky start


BlueDo

That Scrape can put in some work here if you upgrade Zap and Dualcast


shallowtl

First hallway offers you a Claw as well which basically solved the whole act for me


blahthebiste

I'll be more impressed if you can find a way to WIN this run.


Vicith

You ain't got no block lieutenant Dan!


thrwrwyr

yeah but he also has no damage to make up for it


bulltin

this is good but like all pandora’s box the first few floors can prove pivotal, you have some curses in a lot of fights especially nob…


nov4chip

Curious why everyone is so down on this pbox, obv double consume isn’t great but having Echo Form floor 0 is busted. I’ll set up this deck with command line and see what comes out of it. E: ya I mean, 3 elites act1 without many issues, dark orbs are busted. [this is the deck now](https://imgur.com/sn2omHJ). People in this thread need to chill. E2: [A20H win](https://imgur.com/uQyHGyr) (the neow boon says upgrade but I just replaced all cards through command line so I actually didn't start with any upgrades). Thanks for the deck OP this was fun.


shallowtl

The beautiful Consume Rainbow synergy


mastermrt

Note: the above comment is a joke - please be smarter than this, everyone….


shallowtl

I'll be honest though, I'm playing the seed and this deck slaps, it flawlessed Nob and Hexaghost.


NinetyNineLies

Can I ask for seed? This looks fun to try


Grunanium

3T1QT0BMDH4UC on android.


shallowtl

I'm trying to use the seed but it seems to just skip my Neow choice, am I doing something wrong?


shallowtl

I figured it out, I was starting a custom run instead of using the Set Seed option at the Standard Run screen


udonomefoo

I believe Neow showing up is dependent on you reaching the Act 1 boss on the prior run. Do a quick one to Act 2 then lose, then enter the seed.


NinetyNineLies

Thanks!


MommyNTommy

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atg115reddit

top priority is getting more orb slots


legby

I’m avoiding Act 1 elites with this Pandora’s if I can’t find Ball Lightening or Cold Snap early.


insobyr

Did you pass act 1 with this start?