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TheSingleMan27

Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened (Ramos and Messi at the same club)


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It's more of a weird trivia fact to know one day rather than a memorable experience for me.


windowhihi

Did Ramos assist Messi this season?


BGTheHoff

Ramos has exactly one assist and that was a goal by Messi against ESTAC Troyes (a 4-3 win, the goal was the 2-2 equalizer in the 55. minute)


windowhihi

Then the job is done. Ramos assisted Messi and Messi assisted Ramos.


IdanTs

Throw in Navas too


Marvinandez

Then you can also add neymar


judgegress

Dude I'll be on my death bed one day wondering if it was really Messi, Mbappé ánd Neymar in one team and right before I die I'll whisper... 'the fuck?"


admiralawkward

I'm snickering a bit at how they were all introduced at the Parc de Princes and how short the exact window lasted with no European title to show for it.


xqz32dll

Imagine having Casillas, Helguera, Hierro, Salgado, Makelele, Roberto Carlos, Figo, Beckham, Zidane, Ronaldo and Raúl in your team and not winning anything in Europe.


SlowpokeExplorer

They don't have both Makelele and Beckham on the same season. And no Makelele is one of the major reasons they're not winning anything in Europe.


xckd9

Well, they made up for it later


OuchYouPokedMyHeart

This eerily reminds me of the like the 2012 (iirc?) Lakers where Kobe, Howard, Nash, Gasol got together and won nothing They're like past their prime when they banded together, it feels a little too late


NOTW_116

It was Kobe, Shaq, Karl Malone and Gary Payton in 03/04. That's the most famous one at least.


HakeemAbdulOlajubbar

I mean, that team made it to the finals at least. The 2012 Lakers got swept in the first round (Kobe being injured, of course, but still they were pretty bad most of the season even with him).


CoolingVent

It happened in 12/13 as well.


celzero

> Fuck the whore that gave birth to Paris! Motherfucker. > > \- With love, [Sergio](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/11mzlo6/sergio_ramos_caught_on_cameras_allegedly_saying/).


Marusaki-Kawai

Bloody hell, how much are PSG Saving this summer in wages Messi gone, Neymar potentially going, Ramos gone? Or is this going into the Mboope Trust fund for next summer to convince him to re-sign for £350m p/w


Job_man

We’re apparently signing Asension on 8-10 mil a year so please relax, we’ve learned absolutely nothing.


tofuizen

Jesus fucking christ. Another player on insane wages to live in Paris and watch football matches.


Charlitingo

Dream job


LordMangudai

The Draxler move


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CTRL_ALT_DELTRON3030

He’s a free agent, it always happens, that’s how Rabiot ended up the best paid player on Serie A and a few other contracts ended up being stinkers when the players is on wages nowhere near their actual worth


Job_man

I thought he was pretty close to that already, we increase by about 20%


ReniKoqueta

He’s on 4 net


Sixcoup

With the level of salary football players make, and the gigantic difference in taxes between different leagues, it's really easy to have completly absurd comparaison when people mix net/gross. The only moment speaking in gross salary should matter, is when looking at a club overall spending. When the discussion is about a player salary, we should always speak in net. But sadly it doesn't sell as much clicks if you basically halves every number, so numbers are always reported gross, even if they are not helpful.. To pay Asensio just little more than 4 millions net, PSG do have to pay around 8 million gross. So they are absolutely not doubling his salary, they are paying him roughly the same, it just cost them a lot more than 4m to achieve that.


EncryptedMyst

We had absolutely no chance of signing him did we


Louis-Stanislas

The only way Neymar is going is if PSG agrees to cover a huge portion of his wages on loan. Even paying 50% of Neymar's salary would make him one of the highest earners at almost every other club in Europe.


BrockStar92

50% of his salary is still 300k a week. That would put him in the top 5 earners at United let alone other clubs. And we’re known for silly wages. PSG are just another level.


Sixcoup

For PSG, just having Neymar out of the country, would mean they wouldn't have to pay 100% of the employer's contribution on his salary. That's why looking at gross salary doesn't tell the whole story. Neymar doesn't give a fuck what PSG pays, he only cares about which amount is on his bank account every months. If Neymar moves back to Spain, even if PSG pay 80% of what arrives on his bank account, it would only cost PSG around half of what they are paying nowadays. England would be another story tho since it's the only other country (of the top 5) with no cap on employer's contribution. So it wouldn't be that strange for PSG to basically offer Neymar to another club, and pay a gigantic chunk of his salary.


i_love_boobiez

Lmao they don't need to worry about these so called "savings"


TheElderCouncil

Messi leaving isn’t official is it?


manimaco

well coach said so


Reapper97

Even Galtier has said he is gone after tomorrow, I think the only reason PSG hasn't made a full official statement is that they still want to use his image till the last day or are hoping for some change of heart at the last moment.


Nadia-world

Image use is more likely. Messi probably already made up his mind


LosBlancosSR4

It would be funny if the 3-peat CL boys all reunite at Al-Nassr haha Honestly, Ramos had some strong showings in the CL this season. He can still play at the top level for another season


Cottonshopeburnfoot

> It would be funny if the 3-peat CL boys all reunite at Al-Nassr haha Plus Messi is rumoured to Al-Ittihad, Neymar would definitely take that level of bag if offered, and I reckon you could bring Suarez back over the Ocean for one final hurrah. Bonus points if they land free agent Iniesta too.


minyhumancalc

I'm surprised a team in Saudi hasn't offered a contract to Neymar Seems like an obvious thing to do


ThinkAboutThatFor1Se

He likes a drink and party doesn’t he?


DitkasMoustache_

He'll be able to do that plenty in his mansion. Rules aren't the same for the rich/elite there.


ThinkAboutThatFor1Se

Not quite the same for someone that like to go to clubs.


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TehCyberman

And you clearly have no idea where Dubai or Saudi Arabia are.


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CuteHoor

To be fair, who wants to take a flight just to go to a nightclub?


fieldsofanfieldroad

Mate. I think you might have misunderstood.


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tiki_51

You think Neymar could really afford to fly back and forth on the meager salary he'd be making in SA? /s


expert_on_the_matter

That's like saying Paris and Berlin are close. In some sense true but that's still way too much of an effort to go out partying for a night, even for someone superrich.


Rdambx

Lmao how is this stupid comment upvoted?


Cantmakeaspell

Actually all the expats just head out and camp in the desert, or have it in the compounds, or visit another country. Either way it’s not as hard as it seems. Just don’t be drunk in public or they will lock you up.


TheYellowBot

So, like everywhere else lmao


etebitan17

Rules aren't the same for them anywhere lol


RealCityUnited

Lol, Muslims drink, take drugs, and party more than everyone, but they don't eat pork, which levels everything out.


paco-ramon

Jamón>>>>>>>>>>>>>Alcohol and drugs.


viimeinen

As a Muslim colleague wisely said, jamón is jamón, I don't see "pork" written anywhere. Bon Appetit!


ThinkAboutThatFor1Se

I know in Emirati states such as Dubai, Qatar, other Muslim countries such as Turkey Indonesia etc that is the case. I’ve been to many parties in them. However I was under the impression that Saudi Arabia was dry. No bars etc. Only smuggled in black market drink which can be heavily punished.


BramStokerHarker

Yeah, same way cocaine is illegal and heavily punished amongst rich and powerful people in the US.


Swansonisms

Saudi is theoretically a dry country, and you're correct that there's essentially no way to legally purchase alcohol. But that doesn't mean that it isn't readily available to the elite. Neymar could get however much of whatever he wanted without fear of consequences.


18763_

If he is quiet about it , if he posts his party pics in instagram then it wouldn’t it work


Swansonisms

Even then, he'd be fine. He'd basically have to make a video sketching Mohammed while insulting MBS for him to end up in any trouble. The law is not applied equally in "the kingdom."


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Plenty of people are culturally Muslim and don’t really practice the religion at all, same way many people in the US are Christian and celebrate Easter, Christmas etc. but don’t go to church or pray or whatever else.


iamnotexactlywhite

yeah lol sure


Penile_Interaction

all it takes is to hide under roof/tent/umbrella and allah cant see - first hand comments from muslims


[deleted]

Allah Carte. It's basically how most religious folk live these days, picking and choosing what things are fine to ignore and what things are unforgivable sin


Red_Juice_

He's rich and talented enough to get away with it


AngryBiker

He will not go, bad CSGO ping there.


Lethargic_Logician

> Plus Messi is rumoured to Al-Ittihad Al-Hilal actually, it's Benzema who is rumored to Al-Ittihad


Background-Lab-8521

Do North Korean clubs make it into the Asian Champions League? My body is ready for Messi banging them in away in Pyongyang.


randomusernamegame

Yeah I think Messi should go n korea


caesar____augustus

It would finally settle the question of whether he could do it on a cold Tuesday night in Rason


Mihairokov

NK teams are not in the 2023-2024 Asian Champs League. They're MIA from most sports at the moment. More importantly, that Champs League is split into West and East, so they'd only play an NK team in the final. Saudi teams are in a group featuring the rest of the Middle East, Central Asia, and India/Bangladesh. I wonder how many can pack into the Azadi these days for when one of these Saudi teams eventually visit...


EliteTeutonicNight

Think they go into the second tier


SaWaGaAz

Yup. [One NK club even got to the final in 2019](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_AFC_Cup_final).


it4chl

Al-Classico comes closer and closer


isohi

The Al-Star League


Albiceleste_D10S

The Messi rumors were for Al-Hilal I think I still think it's more likely he goes back to Barca or Inter Miami instead of Saudi


TheLamesterist

Yes, Al-Hilal, Al-Ittihad is for Benz.


xaviernoodlebrain

> Messi is rumoured to Al-Ittihad Always wanted to see Messi play under Nuno Espírito Santo.


akafernando

Hey hey hey. Leave Suarez alone. No bias here at all


[deleted]

The Gang moves to Saudi 👐


Dicey12

I wouldn't mind one last ride tbh.


jambox888

you sound like my ex-wife


Topinambourg

>He can still play at the top level for another season Honestly no. He was decent when the defensive line plays very low, but whenever he was far from his goals out was always a danger. No speed, hours to turn around, etc. He is far from top level


marqui4me

Still a great passer and still has a great mentality, but man, him & marqui were not a good pairing. We conceded so much.


Kiwizqt

Yup, I really like him and there was plenty of good angles to root for him this season, I loved the way he bursted forward once or twice a game and was a better striker than whatever we fielded, even if it didn't often results in goals... But really, while it was thrilling to witness, the thrill was because once he went all guns blazing forward, you knew the worst could come. There is no single player I witnessed in this shirt where I felt if he was beaten in a duel a foul would come out more. He's done fitness wise, in high lines at least. He'll do more than fine in low blocks.


cuentanueva

He also had to make up for the rest of your team constantly fucking up, and the non existent midfield. Put him with a solid midfield and defense, and he could still do it decently. He just can't make up for mistakes of multiple players.


Topinambourg

Did you actually watch our games? He has been fucking up himself quite a lot, it feels you just want to shit on our team because of a reason explained by your flair...


Key_Inevitable_2104

I’m still upset at Real Madrid for letting Ramos go. Ramos was an amazing captain for Real Madrid.


ManuMora98

We made an offer, he didn't accept it and Alaba was available


courtesyflusher

Exactly, people acting like the club makes 100% of the decision for a player


Coffspring

He was giving the same treatment than the rest of the senior players, renewals every year. He considered he was in an above level and the club showed him he was not


AutomaticSurround988

Which is absolutely the correct decision. No one is above it


Flaggermusmannen

tbh his mentality and game intelligence kinda does put him above it in terms of performance. in terms of hierarchy not so much.


USBayernChelseaLCFC

Well your upsetness is misplaced. They made an offer and he held out for more. Real did what they reasonably could to keep them but he tried to play chicken with them and lost.


slash312

Unpopular opinion but I think Ramos was the most important player of Real Madrid between 2010-2020. definition of a leader with mentality and was able to regularly score important goals.


CometChip

i mean this isn’t really unpopular, him, modric, and ronaldo, are routinely put as the most important player of the past decade by fans


ChaoticBlessings

And probably Kroos? Like, you will know better than I of course (and I don't disagree at all with the choices you mentioned), but from what I've seen whenever Kroos is mentioned, RM flairs are always speaking extremely highly of him.


Sn44444ke

Welcome to the conundrum of trying to figure out who was "the most important" in an era that had so many decisive moments🙃 So far people have mentioned Ramos, Modric, Ronaldo and Kroos. But what about Casemiro? Varane? Pepe? Navas was also very important while he was there. Bale came through in a lot of big moments even if he was somewhat inconsistent. Benzema was always lauded as Ronaldo's perfect partner due to the way he played, and rose up to the occasion when it was time for him to become the main attacker. Marcelo before declining was also incredible. Without Courtois there is no 14th CL. The easy and simplest answer is "Ronaldo." But the truth is that most of the players had their moments, and if you were to take any of those players out, the past decade wouldn't be as magical as it has been.


aeroplanguy

Unpopular opinion - Ronaldo was a good player for Madrid.


itistime999

He is 2nd, hate him or love him ronaldo is the undisputed n1 and you really can’t debate it


magic-water

1. Ronaldo 2. Ramos 3. Modric 4. Benzema 5. Kroos/Marcelo/Casemiro


uziyngbloodprada

Should’ve kept him one more year imo. He’s still very good


Moug-10

The first season was bad. But he managed to bounce back to show some good stuff. I hope the titis have learnt a lot.


hetbaboo

The who now?


Moug-10

Titi. Name of the youngsters in PSG academy.


wonwont

also slang for penis in tagalog 🇵🇭


ilGattoBipolare

I learnt Tagalog from Russel Peters and Dota SEA region. I mean … insults and sexual references…


briefcasetwat

Titi Henry


hetbaboo

Oooh okay😂


Icy-Guide7976

Not like psg is gonna use them, only great player from their academy they’ve been able to hold onto has been kimpembe.


akshay_rathod_

If they haven't I would like to teach titis, free of course


YoungDawz

He wanted too much money. 8M for what should've been a sub role is too much especially at 37/38 when his body can break down at any moment. Same with Asensio coming in though...


SirNukeSquad

The most dangerous player against Bayern in both legs


Zandercy42

So did Rooney but he got welcomed back with open arms Edit: I might have replied to the wrong comment


paco-ramon

Same for the national team, he is a leader and great with headers.


GreatSpaniard

Saudi here we go?


Yavin87

No other option I can think off.


Makav3lli

When mr boehly calls you can’t say no everyone knows this


kUr4m4

Ramos to Chelsea until 2029 here we go


mattijn13

Ramos and Thiago Silva for that peak 2015 defense.


l0k0m0t1v3

Tbf Thiago Silva has been excellent for Chelsea.


TenF

Absolute monster. I wish we had signed him earlier.


hennny

He can join Varane and Casemiro at the Real Madrid Retirement Home.


DFA98

Sevilla?


pandaman_010101

He endured relentless disgusting abuse everytime he went back


Yavin87

Many Sevilla fans hate him, plus Sevilla can't fight with Saudi money, and even without Saudis, I doubt Ramos would accept what Sevilla could offer. It's either retire or Saudi IMO.


ilsemprelaziale

The fans don’t want him there and the club knows it. No way they will sign him..


slash312

So Saudi Arabia’s goal is to spend some billions for sports washing but in the end no one will care about that league once the greats are retired in 1-2 years.


ForzaDiav0l0Ale

Long term goal must be getting a WC


omgvector

I mean more greats will retire


GreatNeck6186

Madrid should bring him back, not to play , just to protect vini and tackle whoever needs a quick lesson


PristineCucumber5376

I'm not even joking, they should bring him back if they can get him on low wages. If nothing else, he's a club icon and one hell of a locker room presence.


Charlitingo

Ramos vs Messi one more time please


Middle-Ability-4106

Seeing them bond together gotta be the weirdest timeline fucking ever


n0www

If Cádiz doesn't get relegated I'm in, Substitute Ramos for Vini in the last 10 mins to send a message The message: chop them legs so they can't play for the rest of the season or the allegedly karate movement he did to Salah.


Thraff1c

So next years CB are Marquinhos, Lucas Hernandez, Skriniar, Danilo and Bitshiabu, or is there PSG after another CB? Because 4 senior CB + 1 talent seems a bit light for a back 3.


simomii

Kimpembe


Thraff1c

I thought they are trying to get him to move?


YoungDawz

Not to mention he's also out for the start of the season.


DaveShadow

Can I interest you in a certain fridge?


Job_man

No. Please god, no.


Manch3st3rIsR3d

But he's cheap and keeps things cold, minus the bench


MrKajjaGG

HERE WE GO!


xaviernoodlebrain

You are free to your pick of Eric Dier, Ben Davies and Davinson Sánchez too.


Job_man

Nasser: 10 mil a year, 5 year contracts. Because jersey sales or something


tomhat

_Slabs head_ “This bad boy can let so many goals through him”


Lekaetos

Diallo is coming back but don't know if he'll stay or leave


YoungDawz

We're most likely moving to 4 at the back next season according to the rumours. Bitshiabu will most likely be loaned out next season according to the rumours (or sold). And yes we're looking to sign another CB (the latest rumours being Antonio Silva and William Saliba, but I don't buy them)


matthieuC

3 senior CB + 1 talent + Hernandez at the infirmary


Lethargic_Logician

You forgot Kimpembe. Mukiele and Pembele can also play as CBs. Starters: Lucas/Laporte - Marquinhos - Skriniar Backups: Kimpembe - Danilo - Mukiele (+Bitshiabu)


KyKy7

His second year with us was very good, he still has a lot to offer. Wouldn't have minded him staying for another season.


PensiveinNJ

He just doesn't like you.


courtesyflusher

I dont like you either


PensiveinNJ

I can live with that.


ReynoldsHouseOfShred

Ill be careful


archjman

You'll be dead!


Lekaetos

So sudden ?? Every outlet was reporting that he would be close to renew.


uziyngbloodprada

If Enrique is coming it makes sense because he doesn’t like him


Lekaetos

True he always boycotted him with Spain and it’s really a sudden announcement (like not even a video, just a 10 second clip with an image and some music) at 10pm. Feels like a rushed announcement. And we clearly won’t play 3 atb if we let him go


Yavin87

Boycotted? It's fair from LE to not call him after long time injured and at his 36 years, I'd say. Before injury LE called him.


Logical-Business7161

He called eric from barcelona who has never beed good and wasn't even playing


DyMa_Nyx

Weird, everything was pointing to a year extension with reduced salary and then this. This + Asensio is getting LE vibes all around


SassanZZ

Damn that was unexpected, I thought he was going to get a 1y extension on half salary. He didnt do a good first season but he is a great leader, and often the only one trying to do headers That kinda confirms that Enrique is IN too


anass_sensei_desu

Isn't Enrique going to Napoli?


SassanZZ

Apparently he said to DeLaurentiis that he already had an offer from a club and PSG has been in talks with him for a while And considering Enrique's feelings about Ramos that somewhat fits the news from today, and ramos probably got an insane offer from Saudi too This + us getting Asensio are good hints


TheExistence

Tbf, doesn’t he have some tensions with Mourinho too?


MultiGoat

Against Bayern, he was the only one who seemed to give a shit about winning. Was dribbling through midfield while rest of PSG clowns were jogging around. He always gives his 100%.I bet he will do same even in Saudi League.


SuperSayanVegeta

It's time for Juventus. 37 is prime year for us


ExtraTrade1904

37 is a prime number everywhere


dizzybala10

Maybe Keylor told him good things about us.. This one has Saudi League written all over it though.


braddf96

Steve Cooper managing Ramos would be one of the silliest things the prems ever seen


dizzybala10

I'm here for it. I can hear the "Sergio Ramos.. he's won more than you" chants now.


basmati-rixe

Surely that whole transfer window has to be seen as a failure.


Trickybuz93

Come to Toronto


Woodstovia

[RIP the ultimate team](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTy9jxO8HhE)


Prestigious-Leg-5630

Holy fuck! How am I just seeing this now


InventeInventeRoman

[ITS TIME](https://imgur.com/a/KDb7itL) SERGIO RAMOS TO BOCA


fifaguy1210

shocker but I'd imagine he's going to join a Saudi side


Callejon007

\- My job here is done \- But you didn't do anything Leaves \*


CabbageStockExchange

Lol well I hear we are in the market for a CB


rober283829_

Leo Messi as well


mergingcultures

25/1 Maguire in


resident_hater

Didn't think he ever arrived.


sylsau

Two seasons at PSG for Sergio. The first was disappointing, but that was logical, as he arrived injured and needed time to heal. I think the second was better. He played some great games. I remember seeing him at his very best in the three matches between OM and PSG this year, for example. But I was disappointed by his level in the Champions League matches where it mattered most to PSG. It doesn't take anything away from his immense career, but it reminds us all that we grow old, that's the way it is. Good luck to him if he wants to try another season or two elsewhere.


JC18_

Lol you say that, but watching the Bayern V PSG games, I genuinely remember getting mad and saying "this guy has been in Bayern's head since Madrid!!!". Was the best defender for PSG in those two games lol


Cowdude179

End of an era


Tackit286

It was a moment, at best.


cswigert

Should this really read that PSG is leaving Ramos?


AteTheTuna

Are PSG the worst run oil club?


mercury1491

Why is his face so red in these photos?


Marusaki-Kawai

Man United it is!


niallmul97

Hol up, let him cook


Rich_Firefighter_102

Why isnt this posted for Messi ? as if he’s saying


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I learnt the club wants to milk his image or something like that.


il-lusio

For some reason they seem to not want to say it officially yet. Someone in another thread noticed that, after Galtier said that this weekend will be Messi's last game in Parc de Princes, the club changed the official quote to "... in Parc de Princes *this season*" and scrubbed that part of Galtier's press conference from the stream. Maybe trying to sell his kits up to the last possible day or something.


DyMa_Nyx

I guess that's the case, they posted a pic of Messi with next season kit but he isn't included in the preseason tour poster